RE: Ekahau Update

[Phill Solomon]

Thanks so much for this.

Regards Phill

Phill Solomon
Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering)
Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks,  ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Ian Lyons
Sent: Tuesday, 10 August 2021 3:50 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Update

Good Day Everyone!

Eric and I were happy to host a meeting with many of you about Ekahau last 
Friday.

We had a peak of 28 folks and an average of 18!  Thank you for coming!

The meeting started with introductions and that lasted about the first 20 min 
or so.
Steve (VP Global Sales) and Stewart (SE North America) were Ekahau 
representatives. Both started ~2 years ago

Then we segued into how people used the product:
Sidekick, AP on a stick, Design, Analysis, Engineering, and proof of 
engineering were the common threads.

Steve opened the introductions and brought up a point that Ekahau EULA was 
always 1:1. Members that have been using the product for 8+ years have evidence 
that it was initially concurrent users' vs 1:1.  Further the "teeth" that made 
sharing the gear difficult became active in version 10.3.

Many schools, large and small, with disparate sized teams as well as healthcare 
indicated that there isn't a 1 size fits all.

Pro's and Con's:
Some folks have deep pockets and will fund other active users.  Others stated 
that the device is used periodically and could be used by interns for site 
surveys up to proof of design and engineering validation by FTE's.
Use of a physical hardware license key was discussed:  On the one hand it makes 
it easier to tie to license to something, but that has the impact of requiring 
people to come into contact to hand it off.
The spirit of the device was a sporadically used tool but only 1 person at a 
time.

Some suggestions by the group and Ekahau, were a tiered approach of access.

Where we left things is that Stephen (SVP of Sales) will work with his 
management to determine an alternate EULA\connection model that will better fit 
our needs (those on the call).  We agreed to another meeting, ideally in 8 
weeks' time to review Stephen's work on our behalf.

Steve was adamant that any problems by the group accessing a tool because of 
lock out/access please send an email to him (email info below) and he will help 
get you access to the tool again.

steve.lit...@ekahau.com<mailto:steve.lit...@ekahau.com>
stewart.goum...@ekahau.com<mailto:stewart.goum...@ekahau.com>

Link to the Meeting
Webex meeting recording: Ekahau and Educause WIFI Group
Password: EducauseWifi
Recording link: 
https://rollins.webex.com/rollins/ldr.php?RCID=12596eece193961c0a7e8c4c5e51a99e

*Any mistakes in the summarization are mine, on how the product works or ties 
together.  I do not have the product, so my knowledge gaps were a result of 
unfamiliarity of the product and a poor google search to educate myself.

Cheers
Ian J Lyons
Network Architect - Rollins College
401.413.1661 Cell
407.628.6396 Desk



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RE: Ekahau Licensing Chat

[Phill Solomon]

Very interested in the outcome too  - it will be 4am here so I wont be there.


Phill Solomon
Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering)
Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks,  ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions


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Sent: Thursday, 29 July 2021 2:30 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Licensing Chat

Absolutely.  We/I can do that.

Cheers
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I would be interested to attend, but am unable to. So for those that can't be 
there, will there be any kind of general feedback?



Thanks



Sean

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Good Day Everyone!  A few weeks ago, there was an exchange of information 
regarding the new licensing at Ekahau.  The sentiment was not missed by a 
neutral third party who knows someone at Ekahau.  This person reached out to 
Eric and me, inquiring about a meeting that could be put together for those 
impacted by Ekahau licensing.  Eric and I agreed and decided we could host a 
meeting for this purpose.



No one is selling anything.  The purposed of this meeting, Friday August 6th at 
2pEST, is for the WiFi list serve to have a space to talk to an SVP of Sales at 
Ekahau and respectfully explain how the new licensing is impacting those that 
use their product.



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RE: Ekahau Licensing & Alternatives

[Phill Solomon]

Hi TJ,

I am glad this not just us - we don't use the software / sidekick often and 
usually outsource new surveys. We are being asked to purchase / renew with 
Connect - I can see why we would need it if we only do rare survey.   I would 
however like the ability to read the survey files that we get commissioned  - I 
hear that there is soon to be a 'read only version' cany anyone confirm this?

Any alternate products?

Thanks..


Phill Solomon
Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering)
Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks,  ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of McClintic, Thomas
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2021 12:45 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Ekahau Licensing & Alternatives

We have 2 Ekahau licenses tied to Sidekicks. We use a team cloud account for 
uploading projects, with the understanding that using the software requires the 
Sidekick to be attached to the machine.

Ekahau has notified us that this is not compliant with their licensing terms 
and we need to purchase a license for each user or transfer the license each 
time a user needs the software. The first option is too costly for how much we 
survey. The second option is cumbersome and not what we want to deal with each 
time someone is out and another engineer needs to survey.

So, we are looking at alternative software for doing our surveying. We only 
survey a couple of buildings a year but have experience on our team to reduce 
costs of using outside services.

If you are doing in-house surveying, what software are you using? How does 
their licensing model work for your team? What are the strengths and weaknesses 
of the software you use?

Thank you ahead of time for any responses.

TJ McClintic


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RE: [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Zebra ZD500 Wireless Label Printers

[Phill Solomon]

Mac Randomization?


Phill Solomon
Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineering)
Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks,  ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Street, Chad A
Sent: Friday, 4 June 2021 5:29 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Zebra ZD500 Wireless 
Label Printers

We are seeing very interesting things with telemetry systems using the same OID 
as zebra printers.   re: ÿ

If you are seeing similar --  
chad.str...@emory.edu<mailto:chad.str...@emory.edu>

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Subject: [External] [WIRELESS-LAN] Zebra ZD500 Wireless Label Printers

We're seeing some interesting behaviors with these on Cisco infrastructure.  If 
you have them and you run Cisco I'd love to show you some debugs and pcaps and 
compare notes.  Please contact me off-list if you are interested.

Thanks,

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller

[Phill Solomon]

If is not to late please add me.


Phill Solomon
Senior Technical Lead (Network Engineer)
Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks,  ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions
• Phone: +61 3 924 46069

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Eric Jensen
Sent: Friday, 13 November 2020 4:59 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new 
controller

Mike,

I am interested as well - would you please add me to the list?

Thanks!

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 6:10 AM Rios, Hector J 
mailto:hector.r...@austin.utexas.edu>> wrote:
May I suggest that we also consider setting up an agenda. There are significant 
enough changes in IOS-XE that configuration management will be very different. 
Some might be considering DNA Center, others might be looking to take advantage 
of its programmatic capabilities. For those that have PRIME there will be 
decisions to be made.

Hector Rios, Wireless Network Architect
The University of Texas at Austin | ITS


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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new 
controller


How about someone set up a new quick signup form?

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On Nov 11, 2020, at 6:19 PM, Oh, Christopher 
mailto:c...@luc.edu>> wrote:

I would also love to join the meeting.


Chris Oh

Network Engineer

Information Technology Services

Loyola University Chicago

P: 773.508.6073| E: c...@luc.edu<mailto:c...@luc.edu>




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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new 
controller

I took a list of names a few weeks ago, but then I went dark when work got 
busy.  My apologies for the silence.

I'm reaching out to Mike Atkins to see if we can get everyone together on a 
single session.  I envisioned more of a "panel discussion" than a formal 
presentation -- but I've sure got my list of "gotchas" to share, so I'm sure it 
will be useful.

Looking forward to sharing experiences with others.

Michael Usher



On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 12:48 PM Matthew Craig 
mailto:matcr...@nmsu.edu>> wrote:
I am intersted as well.



-
Matt Craig
Network Engineer
Information and Communication Technologies
New Mexico State University








On Nov 11, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Mike Atkins 
mailto:matk...@nd.edu>> wrote:

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You are not late at all.  I certainly am.  I have 8-9 e-mails for interest.  
I'll send out a quick survey to collect information from those that responded.  
I will send it to the list again to pickup others that might be interested.


On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 3:17 PM Michael Heflin 
<02002057e293-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:02002057e293-dmarc-requ...@listserv.educause.edu>>
 wrote:
Little late but would be interested in this as we are moving from 8540's to 
9800's

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller

[Phill Solomon]

And me to the mee too list please,  not sure about the time zone though (I’m in 
Melbourne Australia)


Phill Solomon
Senior Network Engineer
Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks,  ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions
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• E-mail: 
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Yahya Jaber
Sent: Sunday, 11 October 2020 4:52 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new 
controller

Me too please.

Thanks.

Yahya Jaber.
Sr. Wireless Engineer
IT Network & Communications – Engineering
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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Brahim Bouchaiba
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 19:07
To: 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new 
controller

I like to be added also.
Thanks.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 11:27 AM Jesse Thomas 
mailto:jtho...@hamilton.edu>> wrote:
Same here - we're moving from WiSM2 to 9840.

Thanks,


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Network & Systems Administrator
Hamilton College
315-859-4211


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 10:44 AM Slone, Kelly 
mailto:kelly.sl...@marshall.edu>> wrote:
I would also like to be included.

Thank you,

Kelly Slone, B.S., MCP
IT Infrastructure Engineer
Marshall University Information Technology
Drinko Library DL 436
Office:  304-696-6109
Helpdesk:  304-696-3200
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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Friday, October 9, 2020 at 10:30 AM
To: 
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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new 
controller
Sounds like I might need to set up a general session.  I'll catch Don and Abbas 
early next week, but if there's other interest, I'm happy to do a wider 
discussion after a bit of preparation.  I'll send out an invite for signups 
when I'm ready next week.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 7:27 AM Floyd, Brad 
mailto:bfl...@mail.smu.edu>> wrote:
Mike,
Per our recent conversation about this topic, yes please add me to the invite 
list.
Thanks,
Brad

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To: 
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new 
controller


[EXTERNAL SENDER]

I’ve reached out to a few schools individually on this very topic.  Would the 
group want to do a Zoom session on this?





Mike Atkins
Network Engineer
Office of Information Technology
University of Notre Dame

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mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
On Behalf Of Sullivan, Don
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 9:01 AM
To: 
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Transitioning from older controller to new controller

We are in the process of upgrading our wireless from a Cisco 8510 to a Cisco 
9800-80. I wanted to query those on this list who have already gone through 
this process about any lessons learned that would have been nice to know before 
transitioning your existing AP inventory that is compliant with the new 
hardware. I am building the configuration for the 9800 from scratch and it has 
been a challenge learning the new concepts for configuring this type of 
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8.10.130.0 eduroam issues

[Phill Solomon]

We have upgrade 2/3 WLC pairs from 8.5.151 to 8.10.103.0 – seems to be going ok 
with the exception of DNAC-C reporting slower / more DHCP failures – while we 
have received no support calls – just wondering if anyone else has seen this?

Mathieu, thanks for the tip on the bug, now watching that too.

thanks

Phill Solomon
Senior Network Engineer
Deakin University, IS - AV & Networks,  ICT Infrastructure Services, eSolutions
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Mathieu Sturm
Sent: Thursday, 24 September 2020 10:13 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8.10.130.0 eduroam issues

Little update, I came across this bug id: 
https://bst.cloudapps.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCvu65125/?rfs=iqvred (thanks 
Jeff for the hint about version 8.10.139.43)

So I decided to change the settings on the SSID from WPA2 + WPA3 back to 
WPA+WPA2 and this seems to have resolved our issues (we’re testing right now).

My wife is about to deliver our 2nd daughter so I will ask my colleagues to 
update if possible.

Regards,


Mathieu Sturm
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Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
Namens Tristan Gulyas
Verzonden: donderdag 24 september 2020 7:22
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Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8.10.130.0 eduroam issues

Hi,

Watching this thread closely.  We're currently on 8.5.151 but need to migrate 
to an 8.10 release for the 9130ax's.

If anyone has any TAC cases or bug IDs that may reference this issue, that 
would be super useful!

Tristan
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On 24 Sep 2020, at 2:23 am, Jeffrey D. Sessler 
mailto:j...@scrippscollege.edu>> wrote:

You probably want 8.10.139.43, which is fully BU supported and suggested for 
production. This is a link to the release notes, I’d check to see if any of 
these apply. Also, verify your timeouts aren’t set too low for the radius 
responses coming from eduroam.  I ran into this at Cal Poly in Pomona, where I 
could not interactively login to eduroam, but I could save my credentials and 
it worked just fine.  I suspected a timeout set too low (this was Aruba 
equipment however). Had an entire group there for a meeting that faced the same 
issues.

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Jeff


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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco 8.10.130.0 eduroam issues

Hello,

We updated our Cisco 5520 controllers from 8.5.151.0 to 8.10.130.0. Since the 
update we have issues with eduroam. Before the update the students and other 
users could select the ssid eduroam and fill in the credentials and they were 
connected.
Now we have to update the NIC’s (mostly AX200) to the latest version and/or 
update to W10 version 2004. And even then we often have to configure the SSID 
manually and save credentials.

We see that the users get to the ISE and are permitted but the WLC doesn’t 
always see this permit. Or the ISE gives a certificate warning (I’ve checked 
our certificates, all are valid).

Is anyone experiencing the same thing?

We went tot 8.10.130.0 for our new 9120’s.

Mathieu Sturm
Hoofdmedewerker Netwerkbe

RE: DNA Spaces & Wi-Fi

[Phill Solomon]

Hi Jamie,

We are currently evaluating it, it has the potential but also comes with a 
cost.  We would have to start with ACT.

Regards Phill


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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] DNA Spaces & Wi-Fi

Anyone dive into DNA for Wi-Fi?

Has it helped with your business challenges?

Thanks in advance,
Jamie


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What causes bad Wi-Fi?
The plug-and-play auto-optimizations marketed by your favorite Access Point 
(AP) manufacturers aren’t all the same. The complexities of an increased shift 
in demand overnight due to a software update, latency-sensitive services like 
voice over Wi-Fi, and real-time location services turn a simple plug-and-play 
solution into a custom deployment that needs proper planning and regular 
maintenance. Bad Wi-Fi can be a result of insufficient coverage, but it can 
also be caused by a range of improper settings and external interferers that 
APs alone may not be able to detect.
Coverage and Capacity – If your network doesn’t meet the minimum requirements 
for coverage and capacity, the devices on your network will not be able to 
perform the necessary applications.
Channel Overlap – Channel overlap can wreak havoc on your network. 
Interferences from neighboring APs and networks will cause bad Wi-Fi.
Interference – Both Wi-Fi and non Wi-Fi signals can cause interferences on your 
network. Wireless cameras, microphones, or even microwaves can cause a 
disruption on your network.
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RE: WLC 8.10.130

[Phill Solomon]

I have it running on the baby 3504 in the test lab,

A few things,

The upgrade path – we are currently on 8.5.151 in prod – the 8.10.130 release 
notes list do not have a direct upgrade path from 8.5.x, while the release 
notes from 8.10.122 does include 8.5. I asked a TAC engineer working another 
case and he said that it was still good. I am still curious.

Yesterday I upgraded and downgraded the 3504 a few times (8.10.130 <-> 8.5.151) 
, on one occasion it did not come up cleanly requiring a cold reboot – which is 
especially hard when working from home in campus lockdown. After the cold 
reboot it was fine again.

Tested the upgrade process from 8.5.151 with 2802, 3800, 1815x all ok. I had an 
issue with the IW3702 – it would not join the test controller – I don’t think 
this is 8.10 related – more testing required.

Regards Phill


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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
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Sent: Wednesday, 19 August 2020 1:01 AM
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLC 8.10.130

Has anyone upgraded to WLC 8.10.130? I’m running it in the lab. No issues with 
the upgrade. Just wanted to see if anyone is on it and with students back.

Thanks,

Hector Rios, Wireless Network Architect
The University of Texas at Austin


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

[Phill Solomon]

Hi All,

Our primary SSID is eduroam but we are always looking for ways to enhance the 
student experience, especially onboarding.   I don’t know of anyone actually 
providing OpenRoaming here in Australia yet – education or otherwise.

I also don’t know of any carrier / campus integration on wifi here – any 
LTE/4G/5G.. is on carrier equipment – one of the interesting things for me is 
how the handoffs will play out.

Thank you all for your responses,


Kind regards,

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H
Sent: Tuesday, 18 August 2020 6:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone 
connected?

Seconded…  So many other things could be said, but many of them are not very 
nice.

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone 
connected?

Jeff,

For some of us the Starbucks equivalency statement doesn’t fit.  I’m 
specifically in a situation where I do not want to give anyone and everyone 
easy access to our network.  Half of our campus is situated in downtown Chicago 
amongst all the high-rises and tourist locations.  I do not want our network 
used by the multitude of Chicago tourists or business neighbors that can hear 
my network.  Our fear is that having that many unsolicited users would degrade 
the network quality significantly.  I hope the future of network access still 
leaves room for those that need that control over a guest network.  I would 
have a completely different outlook if I was located in a remote college town.


Ryan

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Subject: [EXT] Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

I’m not trying to get out of a business, but Internet2 could eventually get out 
of the radius/eduroam business. Unless I’m mistaken, at the point an 
institution federates directly with openroaming, the need for eduroam 
diminishes. Obviously it’s going to take time, but if there is a push to adopt 
openroaming in EDU, then in say five years, does eduroam have a future?

On the identity front… As we march toward a cloud-based future, and our WiFi 
networks transformed into simple gateways to the internet, how much information 
do we need/want? How much information should we collect? After all, if the 
service is no different than at Starbucks, what does the collection of more 
information do for us?

Jeff

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

What business are you trying to get out of specifically? OpenRoaming is a way 
for federations of organizations and/or individual organizations to 
interconnect. Eduroam would start to mean “less” to end users, as they wouldn’t 
see an “eduroam” ESSID anymore, but there is still value in a trust framework 
for educational organizations, especially when it comes to identity.

If you decide not to provision users with your university identity, you will 
likely have no access to that users real identity. I imagine you still want 
access to identity for your own users and devices?

At its core, OR is simply a few extra elements in the profile that gets put on 
the device provisioning. OR itself, also does not provide client provisioning. 
You still need to do that, or pay for a service that will do it.

I think, personally, that there is a major lack of understanding throughout the 
industry of what OR actually is.

tim

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Openroaming - anyone connected?

Why not the other way around, and standardize on OpenRoaming, and have 
everything else become a member o

Openroaming - anyone connected?

[Phill Solomon]

Hello all,

One of the items on the radar for us is OpenRoaming, is there anyone connected, 
or looking into connecting?

And if you are connected are you using it as an extension for students / staff 
or just for visitors.?

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,

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RE: WIRELESS-LAN : Massive Cisco recall action

[Phill Solomon]

Our SE shared a link to do an assessment check for the field note

http://serialnumbervalidation.com/70479/cgi-bin/index.cgi

A quick inventory report from Prime, copied in the serial numbers – we are in 
the clear.

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Sent: Monday, 20 January 2020 6:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WIRELESS-LAN : Massive Cisco recall action

https://www.crn.com.au/news/cisco-issues-massive-recall-for-87-faulty-wifi-access-point-models-536723?utm_source=desktop&utm_medium=linkedin&utm_campaign=share

Expect massive delays... not good

~Kees

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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution


Hi Barry,



We are running 8.5.0.3, but the build that we think has provided the fix to our 
first issue is based on 8.5.0.5 if I remember correctly.



Disabling ax or ODFMA specifically is ½ of the equation only if Intel ax NICs 
are in your environment. There was also an aggregation queueing issue which 
caused an eventual starvation of traffic for other clients that had to be 
corrected in code as well.



Regards,

Keith



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution



Have you turned off HE/(High Efficiency) to turn off AX? It seems some of our 
reported issues disappeared after disabling that.



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We have a small installation of 515s running 8.5.0.5 and have experienced the 
same behavior that Keith described.  So far, mostly anecdotal data but we are 
starting to gather data and troubleshoot this with Aruba as well.



Amel Caldwell

University of Washington



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution



Do you mind sharing what version of code you are running currently? I think you 
mentioned 8.5.0.3 in the initial thread, but you mentioned the upgrade to 
8.5.0.5 was recommended by Aruba. I would be curious to know if the tiger team 
saw these issues on 8.5.0.5, as we just upgraded to this version over the break.



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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Update on our Aruba solution



All,



Since the thread generated significant interest last week, I wanted to let you 
know how Aruba responded.



After hearing of our issues, Aruba sent a tiger team (5 or 6 folks) that came 
in to work on the bugs.  We had a punch list of things to work on.



On the top of the list was the 515 performance issues.  This is where people 
would stay connected, but data wouldn’t flow for a period of time.  The 
symptoms were reproduced many times during the week with everyone present.  
Aruba found a bug in code that does not handle queuing properly in certain 
circumstances.  They produced code to fix this issue, but we cannot confirm at 
this time if this will resolve what we are seeing….  We saw a similar symptom 
immediately af

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

[Phill Solomon]

University of Melbourne - Cisco  4K AP's   

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RE: google play ACL

[Phill Solomon]

We are also onboarding with cloudpath – our solution was to advise users to 
first download the app over 4G … not very nice but the version of Cisco WLC 
code we run does not permit domains (only IP) to be added to the preauth ACL.

Phill

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Turner, Ryan H
Sent: Monday, 1 June 2015 11:10 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] google play ACL

The more and more I think about this, the more I like the idea of requiring an 
authenticated login for the SSID (easy, since I already use pfSense), put a 10 
minute limit on the authentication, and then I will DNS blackhole the top 20 
things people will likely want to access through the captive portal, not 
related to google.  Then authentication keeps guests out, and makes normal 
users not like the idea of using it for normal access.

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Osborne, Bruce W 
(Network Services)
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 7:52 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] google play ACL

Here is what I appear to have. It is  tricky trying to strip out access for 
other things, especially for DNS. IP Addresses may vary somewhat by ISP. The 
only good way the check Amazon App Store access is with a Kindle Fire device.

Google Play:
   android.l.google.com
   ggpht.com
   photos-ugc.l.google.com
   googleusercontent.com
   play.google-apis.com
   googleapis.l.google.com

Amazon App Store
   mst-ext.amazon.com
   mas-ext.amazon.com
   mas-sdk.amazon.com
   mas-ssr.amazon.com
   applab-sdk.amazon.com
   images-amazon.com
   ssl-images-amazon.com
  amzndsi-a.akamaihd.net
   cloudfront.net (?)


There may be some CDN domains that I missed too. If in doubt, packet captures 
are your friend.
You can do a Wireshark capture on a rooted Android device with Shark for Root. 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.shark&hl=en
​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions

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From: Osborne, Bruce W (Network Services) [mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu]
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: google play ACL

You do not need all of amazon.com. Kindle tablets need access to the Amazon App 
Store and they access it differently than other Android devices.

We restrict by DNS & ip ranges. I thought I remembered some YouTube access 
needed for Google Play Store too for graphics & videos.

I will need to post our setup later, after I gather the data.​

Bruce Osborne
Wireless Engineer
IT Infrastructure & Media Solutions

(434) 592-4229

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From: Coehoorn, Joel [mailto:jcoeho...@york.edu]
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: google play ACL

Wow. All of Amazon, too? I'm sitting on the outside of this process looking in, 
hoping to do something like this before the end of the summer, and that ACL is 
depressing.



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On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Turner, Ryan H 
mailto:rhtur...@email.unc.edu>> wrote:
Thank you, Jacob.  Looks like I may have to go this route as well.

Ryan H Turner
Senior Network Engineer
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
CB 1150 Chapel Hill, NC 27599
+1 919 445 0113 Office
+1 919 274 7926 Mobile

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 On Behalf Of Jacob Bennefield
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 10:26 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] google play ACL

We have been working with Ruckus and Cloudpath on this issue as well.  These 
are the web addresses we allow to make google play and a few other things 
accessible.  You basically have to open up everything to google but 
google.com<http://google.com>

2  ocsp.digicert.com<http://ocsp.digicert.com>  
  EditClone
3  crl3.digicert.com<http://crl3.digicert.com>  
 EditClone
4 

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] 1GBE as a bottleneck to APs?

[Phill Solomon]

We have run 2 outlets per AP for many years now - not because we were planning 
for wave2 but so we can connect to the AP console from the cabling rack without 
having to get out a ladder.

Phill

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christina Klam
Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2015 7:23 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 1GBE as a bottleneck to APs?

We are in the process of re-cabling some of our CAT5 only buildings.  We
have decided to run two Cat6A cables for each AP.   The cost of running
an additional cable is negligible compared to the labor of replacing a bad 
cable later on.


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On 03/24/2015 04:02 PM, Kevin McCormick wrote:
> We have a big roll out of new .11ac APs this summer and we have 
> decided to run one CAT6a cable to the APs for future capacity. I 
> expect that 10G switches and APs will be common place before the next 
> refresh. I can understand running a second wire only if you are doing 
> a refresh and dual 2.5G was common place. Even then I would be running 
> a CAT6a as the second cable.
>
> Kevin McCormick
> uTech Network Services
> Western Illinois University
>
> On 3/24/2015 11:58 AM, Deshong, Kenneth wrote:
>>With the advance in Cisco's new Multigigabit technology you can 
>> use existing CAT5e\CAT6 cables and run speeds 5GB/10GB respectively 
>> over copper. No need to run multiple cables to your Access Points. I 
>> saw a presentation by Cisco where the new 3850's coming out this year 
>> will already support this technology.  I'm assuming their Wave 2 
>> Access Points will also support this and you can effectively run 
>> 5gbps over your older CAT5e cables. While I do agree, 20-40 users on 
>> an access points doesn't make it necessary to run 10GB to that access 
>> point, I would rather have it and not need it. Any Cisco shops can 
>> attest, most of the time when they roll out a new AP/Switch, the 
>> price point is usually pretty close or the same as the older model so 
>> it only makes sense to roll out the new technology.
>>
>> http://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/solutions/collateral/enterprise-netw
>> orks/catalyst-multigigabit-switching/multigigabit-ethernet-technology
>> .pdf
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ken DeShong
>> Network Engineer
>> USF Health Information Systems
>> Desk: 813-396-9472
>> Fax: 813-974-5198
>>
>>
>>   Amazing Things Happen When You Connect the Unconnected
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of McClintic, 
>> Thomas
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 11:45 AM
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 1GBE as a bottleneck to APs?
>>
>> For now mgig doesn't seem necessary from a wireless perspective. I 
>> think new installations may justify multiple drops if you know 
>> funding for some areas comes and goes. Like a slow refresh on switch 
>> gear, but the ability to upgrade to full AC Aps. Mgig will most 
>> likely be driven from our research departments as they upgrade 
>> machines with newer NICs and expect to take advantage of it. We try 
>> to anticipate the needs and so far we see very little need for mgig 
>> on the wireless front.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
>> [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chuck 
>> Enfield
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:24 AM
>> To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] 1GBE as a bottleneck to APs?
>>
>> I'd add to Frank's list:
>>
>> - Wave 2 won't increase spectral efficiency as much as initially 
>> projected.  Expect 2x once most of the client radios are wave-2 11ac 
>> rather than the 4x that was being tossed around a year ago.
>>
>> - Most, if not all, ac client devices will be 2-stream.
>>
>> - There's insufficient spectrum available to leverage 80MHz channels.
>> Even if more spectrum becomes available in the next couple years, it 
>> will be years after that before a large enough percentage of client 
>> devices suppor

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wireless issues with iOS 6.1 not automatically connecting

[Phill Solomon]

There was also an issue with iOS 6.1.1 and Exchange / calendar - this forced 
idevices to constantly hit the server - in the background constant wireless 
retries and battery issues. During the week Apple released 6.1.2 to address 
this.

Phill

Please excuse the brevity of this message it was sent from a mobile device.

On 12/02/2013, at 17:39, "Tristan Gulyas" 
mailto:tristan.gul...@monash.edu>> wrote:

Hi all,

We've had several reports of users on iOS 6.1 equipped iPhone 4 and 4S devices 
being unable to automatically reconnect to our 802.1X network.

The debugs on our WLC seem to show that the client is timed out following key 
exchange five minutes after initial association.

The device does not reconnect but we can reconnect manually without issue; the 
problem them repeats itself.

I cannot reproduce this on my iPhone 5 (also running 6.1) but can reproduce it 
on command with the two iPhone 4 devices in the office.

Has anybody else experienced this issue?

Cheers,
Tristan

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones

[Phill Solomon]

And again this is not a new problem - we even considered in the early  
days having the APs in a lecture theatre on a seperate power curcuit  
with the switch on the lecturn - it all got too hard in the end and we  
didn't bother.


Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne.

On 18/04/2009, at 2:22 AM, "David Robertson"  wrote:

We had discussions when installing wireless in a new building where  
the professors felt that they should be able to determine when and  
where wireless should be turned off for their classes. We finally  
explained to them, that it would require them to hire a few more  
people to work for us to manage the wireless system to handle their  
requests, until then, they would have to request their students to  
not use their computers/phones during class.


David R.

Peter P Morrissey wrote:
I teach courses part time and I can tell you that this is easier  
said than done. While it sounds good in principle, and in some  
cases would indeed be beneficial, the fact is that students seem to  
be easily distracted and have short attention spans. The result is  
that as soon as you give them this "connection" you can easily lose  
them the compelling distraction of the Internet. The other problem  
is that they think they are capable of doing it all at once, but  
really they aren't without something giving.


Having said that, I am not a proponent of the technical solutions  
of somehow selectively denying access. Many have already pointed  
out the futility of this approach. We have even talked about having  
access denied at certain times based upon class schedule and user  
ID. But again, there are too many ways around that.


I tell my students that they can have their laptops and other  
devices open and accessible during attendance and breaks etc, but  
during the lecture everything has to be shut down. I just tell them  
that even though I like to think I'm pretty good, I can't compete  
with the Internet.


This becomes tougher in classes where it makes sense to use laptops  
to take notes and it has been debated and discussed quite a bit.  
Law schools seem to be one example of this.

Pete Morrissey
Syracuse University

-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
] On Behalf Of Chuck Keeler

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 8:32 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones

Wouldn't it be easier (and beneficial) to get faculty to utilize  
technology in their classes rather than vilifying it ... or this  
too much to ask ... this device is the real connection to the  
student?


__
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] On Behalf Of heath.barnhart

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:47 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Blocking iPhones

I'm going to have to go with Jethro on this one. When I was in  
class generally you were warned at the beginning of the semester.  
Following that, a call during usually resulted in either being  
asked to leave or being humiliated by the professor, or both. Also  
Neil brings up another point in a later post, what's to keep them  
from just jumping on a regular 3G network. I think this should be a  
non-technical issue. A technical response is really a waste of time.


Heath

Jethro R Binks wrote:


On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Emerson Parker wrote:


The requests I'm seeing is from teachers who don't what people on  
their phones in class.



Why are you singling out iPhones?

This sounds like yet another case of technology being asked to  
provide a solution to a social or political problem.  And that is  
generally a recipe if not for disaster, then bad feeling.


How about, and here's me just thinking completely off the top of  
my head for the first idea that comes to mind... the teacher asks  
people to turn their phones off?


If the request is regularly ignored, then local rules with defined  
sanctions should be implemented and enforced.


Jethro.

.   
.   
.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .

Jethro R Binks
Computing Officer, IT Services, University Of Strathclyde,  
Glasgow, UK


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Detecting Stolen Laptops...

[Phill Solomon]

We get the same request from time to time. Our security team have also  
wanted us to do a feasiabilty on software to monitor locations of all  
devices that they could corelate data with the local police but as we  
don't have an SOE this won't get up.


Another angle that we have implemented is that when security report a  
stolen laptop to us, and we can verify the mac we log a job with the  
details into our incident system and then use WCS to disable it  
accross all controllers with a description of the incident number - in  
the belief that if it was ever to reapear it will not work until it is  
reenabled. With any luck whoever is assigned the renable job will read  
the case log.



Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne

On 10/12/2008, at 16:06, "Hector J Rios" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Once in a while we get calls from the university police department  
asking us to search for stolen laptops. We use the stolen laptop’s M 
AC address to search in both DHCP and WCS (we are a Cisco shop). We’ 
ve never been successful in recovering a stolen laptop. So far the t 
hieves have been smart enough not to ever bring those laptops back i 
nto our campus. I’m curious to know if any of you have come up with  
a way to automate the detection of a wireless device. Something like 
 waiting for a laptop’s MAC to come on the wireless network and imme 
diately sending an email to an operator.




Thanks,



Hector Rios

Louisiana State University

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WiSM

[Phill Solomon]

I forgot to add, we are running 600 ap's on 12 controllers. Before the  
start of next semester we will be adding a location appliance and  
another 150 ap's and a few more controllers.


Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne

On 04/12/2008, at 18:35, "Phill Solomon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:


We have been running 5.0.148 for most of the year and have just  
moved to 5.1 last weekend because of the web auth bug.



Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne



On 04/12/2008, at 15:32, "Leo Song" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi, folks.

Which WiSM code are you running, 4.1.185 (we are), 4.2.173 or  
4.2.130, etc, etc? we've been suffering the prolong crash bug, the  
response from Cisco is not promising, thanks.



Leo Song, Cluster Lead - Networking and Security
(519) 824-4120 x 53181 CCS, University of Guelph

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WiSM

[Phill Solomon]

We have been running 5.0.148 for most of the year and have just moved  
to 5.1 last weekend because of the web auth bug.



Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne



On 04/12/2008, at 15:32, "Leo Song" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi, folks.

Which WiSM code are you running, 4.1.185 (we are), 4.2.173 or  
4.2.130, etc, etc? we've been suffering the prolong crash bug, the  
response from Cisco is not promising, thanks.



Leo Song, Cluster Lead - Networking and Security
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting "starts" for same client

[Phill Solomon]

Another interesting topic

I am just starting down the same road of doing the Radius accounting
analysis. 

Radius accounting can be done from the WLC interface or from ACS Both
have the ability to send accounting data out. ACS seems to have more
fields but in our setup wont record data about volumes.

The data I am to make sense is from WLC 5.0.148 / ACS 4.1.4.13 

Phill Solomon
Ph: 83448804
University of Melbourne
-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Saturday, 14 June 2008 12:25 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting "starts" for same
client

Yessir- so noted, and highlighted in TAC case notes as it's just too
precise and repetitive to not have meaning. 

Lee 

-Original Message-
From: Max Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:21 AM
To: Lee H Badman; The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group
Listserv
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting "starts" for same
client

One thing we noticed but didn't mention because we had no idea what it
means or how it could be related, is that when the 5 starts come
through, they are exactly 7 seconds apart, which sounds like a timeout,
resend, reset kinda thing.  But we couldn't see why.



From: Lee H Badman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 6/13/2008 10:04 AM
To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
Cc: Max Garcia; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting "starts" for same
client


Curious. To back up, this is meaningful to us not just as a curiosity,
but we are using the accounting starts as a trigger to a process, and
the multiple successive starts are causing a bit of noise pollution.
 
I started reviewing the RADIUS Accounting RFP:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2866.txt
 
Some nuggets I get from this (and would welcome someone who smarter on
this to correct me)-
 
-  It seems that any "service" started and stopped for a client-
like perhaps outer/inner auth mechanisms- should each have their own
start and stop. Perhaps this explains some of the seeming duplicates?
-  These services have an accounting field, but all I see are
two dots- like some service is generating a start or stop, but can't be
identified in our ACS (if we could see named services), it might help
shed light
-  There is the concept of multi-linked sessions, where each
link has a start and eventual stop, but I have no idea if this could be
relevant in this case- I just enabled the field for multi-links and will
see if this starts to populate
 
So I can start to get a very  fuzzy picture of "OK, maybe multiple
starts and stops for the same client in RADIUS accounting might be
explained". But the fact that the Framed IP Address is off on another
network/VLAN and "foreign" controllers are being named as NAS on some of
these records has me thinking that perhaps there is LWAPP voodoo
afoot... (maybe).
 
No theories back from TAC yet.
 
 
 
Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:48 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting "starts" for same
client
 
 
We do run PEAP w/MS-CHAPv2. We support all supplicants. And we so see
the issue on both Windows and Macs. I've checked one or two Linux users
and so far they look consistent.
 
Hector
 
 
 
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Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:16 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting "starts" for same
client
 
Hector (and Stephen) -
 
Are you both running PEAP w/ MS-CHAP v2? And do you force the use of any
one supplicant (like Windows. Or Odyssey?)  And for what it's worth I'm
seeing this on Windows and Mac- but not all clients.
 
Lee


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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:47 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Multiple RADIUS accounting "starts" for same
client
 
Lee, 
 
Just to let you know, we are running version 4.1 and have seen the same
thing. I'd be interested to hear what TAC has to say.
 
Hector
Louisiana State University
 
 
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question

[Phill Solomon]

Lee,

"But to apply the special use SSIDs only to the few APs that need them
they have to be pushed to all APs, then deselected on the ones that
shouldn't have these SSIDs with WLAN override."

This is exactly my issue with WLAN Override design too. There is no way
to just apply special purpose SSIDs to a just small bunch of APs. This
is a big failure in the feature. In our cases we have a special SSID for
wireless lecterns.


Phill Solomon

Network Engineering Team - Infrastructure Information Services
University of Melbourne

Phone 834 48804   Fax 8344 2765[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 10:26 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN]  RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a
WiSM question

Hi Hector,
 
"One way to get around this is to define all your SSIDs in all of your
controllers so that the APs never lose their configs. " 
 
The implication here is that now the SYSTEM only supports 16 SSIDs, not
each AP- huge limitation. 
 
We have primary and secondary controllers for each AP defined, and
manage what goes where. We have small groups of APs (like 2, or 16
depending on the application) that have special-purpose use and unique
IDs. Then all other APs get our "common use SSIDs". But to apply the
special use SSIDs only to the few APs that need them they have to be
pushed to all APs, then deselected on the ones that shouldn't have these
SSIDs with WLAN override. (and rebooted). 
 
When we loose SSIDs, it's never  the special-purpose ones- it's the
general use SSIDs that do  have interfaces and like profiles on all
controllers.
 
-Lee Badman
 
 


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Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:52 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question
 
I found out a couple of things. First, there seems to be a bug that
causes this problem if the WLAN profile name and the WLAN SSID name are
not the same. So just make sure those names are exactly the same.
Second, and most exiting, APs download configuration from controllers
they join. If you have an AP on controller X with SSIDs A and B and WLAN
override on and the AP joins another controller with different SSIDs,
the AP will lose its configuration. So when the AP goes back to
controller X, your WLAN override settings are lost. Pretty fancy. One
way to get around this is to define all your SSIDs in all of your
controllers so that the APs never lose their configs. But we all know
how practical that is.
 
Hector Rios
Louisiana State University
 
 
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question
 
One more question on WiSMs, to check my own sanity. I'm starting to see
what appears to be a trend. Where I have WLAN override selected and
applied and in use for a while with no issues, it seems that randomly
SSIDs are either dropping from the list of selected SSIDs and need to be
reapplied, or are in the list and selected, but not actually being
transmitted and require a reboot to get them to behave again. Is like
config is partially lost. I have seen this around a dozen times over the
last several months, not tied to any specific controller or WLAN, just
feels a bit indiscriminate.
 
Anyone else getting this condition?
 
Lee H. Badman
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Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question

[Phill Solomon]

I am not sure if this is related but I found that after applying an WLAN / SSID 
change to WLAN override you have to reboot the AP. Cisco say this anyway.

Phill
University of Melbourne


From: Hector J Rios
Sent: Fri 5/2/2008 3:33 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question


We are seeing the exact same issue. It seems as the settings are just not being 
saved. In the beginning we thought it might have been an issue with WCS not 
saving the settings on the WiSMs, but we discarded this after applying the 
settings directly on the WiSMs. I haven´t found anything on the release notes.

Hector
Louisiana State University




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Enviado el: jue 01/05/2008 11:18
Para: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Asunto: [WIRELESS-LAN] WLAN Override- Again a WiSM question


One more question on WiSMs, to check my own sanity. I'm starting to see what 
appears to be a trend. Where I have WLAN override selected and applied and in 
use for a while with no issues, it seems that randomly SSIDs are either 
dropping from the list of selected SSIDs and need to be reapplied, or are in 
the list and selected, but not actually being transmitted and require a reboot 
to get them to behave again. Is like config is partially lost. I have seen this 
around a dozen times over the last several months, not tied to any specific 
controller or WLAN, just feels a bit indiscriminate.

Anyone else getting this condition?

Lee H. Badman
Wireless/Network Engineer
Information Technology and Services
Syracuse University
315 443-3003

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] University of Chicago Removes Wireless From Classroom

[Phill Solomon]

In our early days of wireless we were instructed not install in theatres
because of the notion that students would spend more time doing email
etc instead of passing notes around the room (I mean paying attention).
The solution at the time was to put a power switch on the lectern that
powered off the AP's at their whim - we have not done this for years
now. 

Phill Solomon
Ph: 83448804
University of Melbourne
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] University of Chicago Removes Wireless From
Classroom

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Ringgold, Clint wrote:

> It became an issue of should you use technology to fix a social or
(you
> fill in the blank) issue and it was much easier to politely ask the
> teacher to police their class.

Perhaps it is my inherent laziness as a Unix admin, but I've always been

opposed to using technology to enforce policy.  I've seen 
"problem-solving" programmers write 10,000 lines of code to enforce 
something, when a simple "Don't Do That Or We'll Beat You with a Wet 
Noodle!!" would have been much more effective.

We've heard about the elaborate systems to control wireless in a 
particular room, at a certain time, for a select group of students,
tying 
into student records, network equipment, backend LDAP and db servers,
and 
the health center.  When asked if something can be done technologically,

the answer is always yes.  The real question is not if we can do it, but

*should* we do it.

Controlling the computers and the network is the easy part.  Controlling

the users is what makes our jobs interesting.

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS client count...

[Phill Solomon]

Hi Hector,

I have just installed WCS and just starting to play with the reports.

Thanks for heads up.

Phill Solomon



From: Hector J Rios
Sent: Sat 4/12/2008 2:58 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] WCS client count...


Cisco WCS users,

I'm sure most of you know this already but in case you don't, beware of
the client count statistics in both WCS and controllers. If you have a
WLAN with web auth or 802.1X and a client associates to that WLAN, the
client gets added to the client count whether authentication is
successful or not. This can be misleading, especially if you are using
these statistics for future planning. We often get questions about the
number of users that we have on our network. The statistics we get, we
get them from our radius server. That way we know for a fact that a
client is actually logged on and is not just a user that forgot to turn
off his/her wireless adapter (99% of our users) and is associated to a
WLAN.

Thanks,

Hector Rios
Telecommunications Analyst, NI
LSU Information Technology Services

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

[Phill Solomon]

Here in Melbourne,

We have 5.0.148 getting ready to go into production but there is tension
about bug CSCsm98250 (5.0 Webauth stops working under load). 

We have not run into this yet but we also have no load on (yet).

Has any experienced this? Does the controller stop or just management?

Thanks

Phill Solomon

Network Engineering Team - Infrastructure Information Services
University of Melbourne

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Steve,

 

I haven't seen this symptom yet - you should open a TAC case.

 

I did see something like you describe when I changed the User Idle
Timeout to a larger value (43200, or 12 hours) in an attempt to prevent
premature deauthentication of systems that have not been active.

 

Once I set it 300 back things were fine again.  TAC informed me of the
bug below.

 

CSCsl51486 Bug Details 

Top of Form

EW : Client not able to join when User idle timeout set to max value 

Symptom:
Clients are disassociated immediately if User Idle Timeout is set to
more than 65,535 seconds.
Conditions:
There are no specific conditions.
Workaround:
Avoid setting Idle Timeout to greater than 65,535 seconds. 

 

Bottom of Form

4.2 WLC Idle-Timeout values can cause clients to not associate 

Symptom: Depending on which idle-timeout value is configured on the
controller, it can prevent clients from assoicating to the WLAN. In
customer testing, the values that do not work apprear to random.
Although range stil states that 90 - 10 is valid, Dmitry said 86400
is the actual maximum in 4.2. Need that verifed as well. 86400 does work
as does 32768, but 32769 does not for example. Attached debugs show
client passes L2 authentication and gets IP. WLC does a gratuitous ARP
and then one second later show idle-timeout and disconnects the client.
Client shows it is still connected and retains its IP so it also appears
the AP does not send the de-auth. Conditions: Workaround: Change
idle-timeout value to something that works like 86400 Further Problem
Description: 

 



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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Anyone using 5.0 Cisco WiSM/WLC code?

 

Yes. the problem started with v4.1.171.0 after about one year of
stability on the dos/arp storm workaround. We use stand alone 4402. DHCP
is set as required. We are only using lwaps. I looked at v5.0 as
documentation that seemed to suggest resolution  for most of the known
bugs -then found out that release was not compatible with our 1000
series ap's. prior to install. Cisco engineering also suggested waiting
to deploy that release but that was mute due to the hardware
incompatibly.

Only one full controller crash generating a log. The system hangs
preventing authentication and existing authenticated users are impacted.
Seems like a denial of service between the clients and ap's but that was
supposed to be fixed after 4.1.171.0. I have tried several configuration
changes and have a couple of tac requests in process with cisco.

What are you experiencing ?

Steve

Johnson, Bruce T wrote: 

Hey Steve,

 

Curious as to those high load hangs.  We're running 4.2.99 on several
WiSM-based controllers.  What's the symptom?  Do you have to reboot the
controllers?

 

Thanks,

 

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Hi Peter I have been experiencing high load hangs on v 4.2.099.0 and
wanted to migrate to V5.0 for more stability. 
However v5.0 is not compatible with Cisco Aironet 1000 Series Access
Points. "The 1000 series access points are not supported for use with
controller software release 5.0.148.0".  Must use 1130 series AP and
above. It looked like there was no planed improvement to the 4.x code
leaving many of us with a large and costly legacy system in place.

I thought that ought v4.2.099.0 to be the latest code you can run on the
Cisco 4400 standalone controllers with 1000 series access points
however, I just noted that on March 17 v4.2.112.0 is released. Nothing
above v4.1.185.0 is assure ware certified however. I am now looking at
v4.2.112.0 trying for more stability.

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Monitor lightweight APs through NMS

[Phill Solomon]

Pity too it wont report to Ciscoworks. I have done some initial testing with 
Statseeker and icmp - I intend to import 600 aps to it in a few weeks - I will 
let you all know how it goes.

Phill Solomon

University of Melbourne



From: Karl Reuss
Sent: Wed 3/5/2008 10:49 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Monitor lightweight APs through NMS


Hector J Rios wrote:
The issue is that we want to see the APs in NMS with their names 
associated to an IP and a MAC address.


If your NMS supports ICMP you can just have it ping the APs.
That way the NMS will get basic up/down info for them.

Beyond that you'll need to do as Mike suggested and have your
NMS and controllers talk via SNMP.  The controllers have a fairly
rich MIB; I believe everything the WCS knows is obtained via SNMP
from the controllers.  Of course programming your NMS to obtain
all of this info is essentially recreating the WCS product.  It's
a shame the WCS can't generate some higher level traps from the
info obtains from the controllers.

-Karl

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Making News In Australia - Health fears halt Wi-Fi rollout

[Phill Solomon]

Hi All,

>From the local paper

http://www.theage.com.au/news/breaking/health-fears-halt-wifi-rollout/2006/02/24/1140670234956.html


Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Access Point Coverage Zones

[Phill Solomon]

Hi,
We do basic mapping and color this over CAD drawings. Communications is
done via web pages and displays within the coverage zones.

http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/wireless/coverage.html
Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne
At 05:40 AM 5/04/2005, you wrote:
While
everyone is on the topic of wireless documentation, how do you record the
coverage areas of AP’s?  Is it handled with your AP’s management
software or by some other vendor specific app, or do you just keep
diagrams?
 
Currently we just use highlighters and draw circles of different colors
associated with different APs on campus building plans; however, this is
often hard to represent.  In addition it does nothing to document
signal strength at particular locations.  It also only reflects the
card I am using, not the different vendors cards, some which don’t have
as good of a reception range. 
 
Finally, do you have any good ways of communicating this to
students?  In our setup, it seems the only way would be to display
the pictures of the plans on the web.
 
Thanks to everyone in advance,
 
 Ben Parker
 Network Support Technician
 Mount Union College
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Airspace Policy

[Phill Solomon]

Hi,
Our policy is very simply 
"Wireless spectrum is considered a university wide resource,
maintained by the Information Division (Networks). Devices that cause
interference may be required to be reconfigured or
disconnected."
Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne
At 05:47 AM 6/02/2004, you wrote:
We are
looking for 2.4 wireless/airspace policies that are out there.  If
you will respond directly to me I will post the list of all the sites or
documents back to the list so that everyone can refer back to.
 
Thanks
 
todd
Todd Joyce
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Radford University
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] site survey/deployment plan software

[Phill Solomon]

Hi,

We contracted out some areas as part of a deployment. Mostly though, we did
the surveys ourselves using AP,s and laptops - it was not to hard at all.
The contractor themselves did not use a spectrum analyzer. We also were not
approaching the project with the view that everything must be 100%
perfect.  Overall we are happy with the result presented as a coverage
guide to students and staff.
The results

http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/wireless/coverage.html

Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne
Australia.
At 02:37 AM 17/01/2004, you wrote:
Hi All

I was just curious what people on this list have done for site surveys. Has
it been basically a couple access points and some laptops? Or have you gone
ahead and hired consultants/suppliers to come in and do your site survey?
Has anyone used any particular software to do complete campus plans? I have
looked at Wireless Valley's LANPLanner software (uses autocad drawings of
your buildings and site survey readings to recommend access point placement)
briefly, and am wondering if anyone has any experience with it or something
similar.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Matthew Ashfield
Network Analyst
Integrated Technology Services
University of New Brunswick
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Faculty Wireless Computer Concerns

[Phill Solomon]

Hi,

We had the same request when we first started deploying wireless; what we
looked at was using the lectern controller that the lecturers uses to power
on lights, AV projectors etc to power off the local access points within
the theatre, of course there would still be leakage from outside the
theatre concerned but only minimal coverage. In the end we never ended up
doing the theatre at all, but it all looked possible on paper. BTW, more
than likely we will be going back to cover that theatre next year without
putting the extra switch in. Do students still pass notes and chat in the
back rows etc these days ?
Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne
At 06:17 AM 19/11/2003, you wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone have faculty who do not want students using wireless to surf
the Internet and send e-mail
during class and if so what best practices have been created to prevent
these activities?
Mike Stocke

University of Washington, Bothell

Director of Information Systems
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[WIRELESS-LAN] Access Point Management Software

[Phill Solomon]

Hello All,

I am looking for some network management software recommendations /
comments to help manage a multi vendor wireless environment . The Access
Points that we have are Avaya AP-3's , Proxim AP-1000, AP-2000, AP-600;
Cisco Aironet 350's Aironet 1200's.
What I have hoping to capture is at least firmware updates, up time /
utilization information etc.
thanks

Phill Solomon

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP-500s crashing

[Phill Solomon]

Hi,

I understand that this is also a problem with AP-3's and AP-2000's although
we have not experienced it in these models - has anyone ? 90% of our AP-3's
are using the POE splitter which I believe is the work around.
I am still waiting on Avaya to release a field notice.

Phill Solomon
University of Melbourne
At 06:46 AM 26/09/2003, you wrote:
Chuck, you beat me to the e-mail. We have had, and are having the same
problems with the AP-500 units. As with Chuck when we contacted our vendor
with the symptoms they eventually came back with the response of an
existing problem with AP-500s, a capacitor that would fail when used with
POE. The problem obviously gets worse when the unit is placed in locations
with little airflow or temperatures somewhat above room temperature. Our
vendor requested a list of all our AP-500s (Approx. 60)within a certain
serial number range (seems anything built before week 6 of 2002). The
AP-500s built after week 5 2002 supposedly have a different capacitor that
fixes the problem (don't know about L4). Hope this helps others.
Orlando Pimienta
Project Manager Telecommunications
University of Miami
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Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP-500s crashing
Folks:

This is from our tech taking the lead on AP-500 problems:

We had a similar problem here as well. After the units had been installed a
few months they started making a hissing noise and then would fail. Opening
the AP case we found capacitor C51 was bulging and coil L4 was usually
burnt.  From what we found out from the vendor, there was a problem with the
capacitor running hotter than normal and then failing when powered over the
Ethernet.  There was a range of serial numbers that was 00UT... and 01UT...
that potentially had this failing component. On occasion it would still run
plugged into AC power, and not hiss, but eventually it would fail.
We are working with the vendor on replacement of the units. To date, they
have been repairing the bad units as they fail.
FYI,
Chuck Bartel
Director of Network Services
Project Director- Wireless Andrew
Computing Services
Carnegie Mellon University
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] AP-500s crashing
Daniel Medina wrote:
>  We did have a previous issue with some AP-500s using PoE.  These would
> give off a hissing sound when dying.  APs using PoE and plugged directly
> into the wall are crashing together, so I sort of ruled out power as the
> problem (the injectors are usually on UPS).
>
>  Maybe this is a new power problem, however.  I'll double-check the
> "injectors on UPS" theory.
Never hurts to check the voltage at the AP end when using PoE. Those wires
are
small enough that the voltage drop can be significant for long runs (and the
connections add their share, too).
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] technical question about Avaya AP-3

[Phill Solomon]

Hello Matt,

I have this problem too, the only software solutions I could come up with
are setting the SSID closed with a different name or changing the vlan for
the interface to something that is not in use. Both of these way still
leaves the card active though.
Phill Solomon

At 11:16 PM 13/06/2003, you wrote:
Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone knows how to disable a wireless interface on an
Avaya AP-3 by any other means other than physically removing the card.
I know it's not possible via the web interface. The command line interface
seems to maybe offer this feature using "set wif 3 adminstatus ..." but I
can't get that command to work, and surprise surprise, the documentation
provided is horrible.
If anyone knows of a way to do this, I'd appreciate the tip!

Thanks

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Monitoring user connectivity to base stations

[Phill Solomon]

Hello Mike,

Regarding the bridge table time out, I  believe this has been fixed in the
Jan release of the code for the AP-3 / AP-2000, but I would hardly want to
rely on that either, as you say.
thanks regards Phill Solomon

At 01:19 AM 2/04/2003, you wrote:
On this note, I had thought about using the Bridge MIB direct from the
AP-2000 and just counting the MACs on either of the wireless interfaces
(2 or 9 are the interface numbers in the Bridge MIB on the AP-3/2000).
The problem with this method is that the AP-2000 (AP-3) does not timeout
bridge entries.  On top of this, the bridge learn table is 10,000
entries in size.  If a client shuts down and does not roam to another AP
(which all clients will eventually do), then the MAC for that client
hangs around on the last AP it was associated with indefinitely.  Not
very accurate.  With no bridge learn timeout and no client association
MIB, there just is no truly accurate way to find out who is currently
using an AP.  For an enterprise-class AP of the caliber of the
Avaya/Proxim lines, I find this very dissappointing.
--Mike

On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 08:13, Philippe Hanset wrote:
> Phill,
>
> At University of Tennessee we are exploring various tools
> that can do what you want, home-grown and off-the-shelve.
> We do have an advantage, all our APs are AP-2000 (=AP3)
> ...or call it a disadvantage considering the lack
> of MIBs for client polling on AP-2000.
>
> For Home-Grown, we use PERL-SNMP and MRTG,
>
> the number of clients can be polled but it's tricky,
> you have to simulate that same thing that you do on the WEB interface
> with SNMP coding: eg: set OID for "link test explore", then Poll that same
> OID, when it changes, read the OID of client association...it's very
> annoying + not all brands of 802.11b adapter show up... The other
> alternative would be to poll the switch port on which the AP is connected
> and count the number of MAC addresses (of course if the CAM table age is
> high it doesn't make much sense...but it gives an idea)
>
>
> For off-the-shelve, we are exploring 2 packages:
>
> Airwave (www.airwave.com) , which supports Cisco and Orinoco. They are
> facing the same issue as any coder: Client support on AP-2000 is
> unreliable. The advantage: they bundle in a supported package all the
> neat things that your best coders can come up with.
> (Linux/Perl based). They have a HPOV (HP Open View)plug-in
>
> The other product is designed by the Orinoco team itself:
> WINMA (Wireless Network Manager...it sounds like it was designed by
> Microsoft but it's not...)
> Runs on Windows, supports all features of the AP-2000/1000 etc...
> (not Cisco!!!) including the Client Association. Has a HPOV plug-in.
> At the moment it doesn't support Group configuration, but we made
> a BIG request for it.
>
> Also, some folks that design Wireless Authentication Gateways
> (Vernier, Reef Edge, Blue Socket ...) are planning to have management
> software in the same package...that would be interesting to pursue.
>
> We don't know yet which direction we will lean. We decided
> to stick with PERL-SNMP at the moment an keep our eyes wide open,
> until one of these product becomes mature enough to fit our needs
> (we might convert our SNMP coding into a Startup ;-)
>
>
> Regards,
> Philippe Hanset
> University opf Tennessee
>
>
>
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Phill Solomon wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am seeking feedback about how different universities are monitoring
> > wireless base stations.
> >
> > Here at the University of Melbourne we currently have around 65 Avaya
AP-3
> > and around a dozen Cisco Aironet 350, and a handful of AP-1000s. What I
> > would like to do is to produce MRTG style graphs for each base station
> > showing how many users are connected and when. This will show where the
> > most popular locations are and at what times.
> >
> > Are others doing this ? Are there commercial products / tools available
> > that can do this ? / Can it be done over different platforms ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Phill Solomon
> >
> > More information about our Wireless network "MUWIRELESS"
> > http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/wireless
> >
> > Phill Solomon
> >
> > Networks - Systems and IT Infrastructure - Information Division
> > University of Melbourne
> > Phone 834 48804   Fax 9347 4804[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
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Monitoring user connectivity to base stations

[Phill Solomon]

Hello,

I am seeking feedback about how different universities are monitoring
wireless base stations.
Here at the University of Melbourne we currently have around 65 Avaya AP-3
and around a dozen Cisco Aironet 350, and a handful of AP-1000s. What I
would like to do is to produce MRTG style graphs for each base station
showing how many users are connected and when. This will show where the
most popular locations are and at what times.
Are others doing this ? Are there commercial products / tools available
that can do this ? / Can it be done over different platforms ?
Thanks in advance,

Phill Solomon

More information about our Wireless network "MUWIRELESS"
http://www.infodiv.unimelb.edu.au/wireless
Phill Solomon

Networks - Systems and IT Infrastructure - Information Division
University of Melbourne
Phone 834 48804   Fax 9347 4804[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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