Re: Requesting arena Wi-Fi feedback

2020-03-05 Thread Schuette, David 
I would recommend MS Benbow as a consultant to setup your arena.

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 on behalf of Yahya M. Jaber 

Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:14:34 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Requesting arena Wi-Fi feedback


Hi,



I am looking for a mobile high density solution, I am ordering one Ubiquity 
XG-Base stations as stories say they work well!



Yahya Jaber.

Sr. Wireless Engineer

IT Network & Communications – Engineering

Building 14, Level 3, Rm 308-WS07

KAUST 23955-6900 Thuwal, KSA



Email yahya.ja...@kaust.edu.sa

Office +966 (0) 12 8081237

Mobile +966 (0) 558697555

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Community Group Listserv 
 On Behalf Of Allen Toms
Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 20:30
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Requesting arena Wi-Fi feedback



Hello Everyone,

Louisiana State University ITS is interested in pursuing an arena Wi-Fi 
solution for the Pete Maravich Assembly Center, our 13,215 seat indoor arena 
used primarily for NCAA basketball, volleyball and gymnastics competitions. We 
are curious to know what other educational institutions have implemented Wi-Fi 
solutions in their arenas of similar size, which provider they chose to go 
with, and how it is working out for them.



A few of the many questions we have include:



--Identification of the similar arena Wi-Fi deployment(s).

--Rough cost of installation?

--Is there an ongoing cost to the arena Wi-Fi provider? How much/month/year?

--Description of the implementation (number and type of AP's, controllers, 
cabling, mounting points, etc.)

--How do customers connect to the arena Wi-Fi?

--Do customers have to download an app on their device?

--Is there a service fee to the customer for any of the services provided? For 
season ticket holders?

--What degree of security (no authentication, splash page requesting what info, 
etc.)?

--Separate network or integrated into campus network?

--How is the arena Wi-Fi traffic drained to the internet?

--What value-added services are being utilized from the arena Wi-Fi solution?

--How is the relevant data compiled and retrieved?

--Did extra personnel need to be hired on to manage the solution?

--Have you seen a notable change in customer feedback after the implementation?

--What elements of the installation went well, what did not?



In summary, we would love to learn any information that you can share, as this 
would be our first foray into arena Wi-Fi.



Thank you in advance!





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Allen Toms
Wireless Network Manager
Information Technology Services
Louisiana State University
200 Frey Computing Services , Baton Rouge, LA  70803
office 225-578-3763
alt...@lsu.edu | 
lsu.edu



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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Big flaw in WPA2

2017-10-16 Thread Schuette, David 
Aerohive's response

https://www3.aerohive.com/support/security-bulletins/Product-Security-Announcement-Aerohives-Response-to-KRACK-10162017.html?_ga=2.40289697.2082952693.1508196685-659670165.1508196685


Thanks
David
David Schuette 
Network-Data Security Manager 
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639 (old) 
New – 303-615-1130 (Please note my phone number has changed)
www.msudenver.edu
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-Original Message-
From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Nedwich
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 5:05 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Big flaw in WPA2

Ruckus has posted an official response in a Blog Post here: 

https://theruckusroom.ruckuswireless.com/wi-fi/2017/10/16/commonsense-approach-uncommon-problem/

Further, please find a Cloudpath KB article on the Ruckus support site here:
https://support.ruckuswireless.com/documents/2039-faq-security-advisory-cp-101617-802-11r-vulnerability

-Rich

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] New buildings on campus

2017-05-05 Thread Schuette, David 
I get handed PDF files of the floor plans. By default I have the cable 
installers when new buildings are built to install 2 cat 6a ceiling jacks every 
30 feet square with service loops. Then I have my Wi-Fi guy design the 
deployment.



Thanks
David

please forgive any typos sent from cellular phone.


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 on behalf of Mike Atkins 
Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 7:28:58 AM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] New buildings on campus

Our wiring crew gets AutoCAD files from the architects and shares the
files with networking.  I have not heard of any static regarding getting
copies.  Our only issue is working from out of date copies because there
is no notification/feedback process for remodeling.



Mike Atkins
Network Engineer
Office of Information Technology
University of Notre Dame

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Todd Hall
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 9:35 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] New buildings on campus

When we have new buildings being constructed I am provided plans in pdf
format.  I'm told that the Architect/builders won't share the Autocad
files.  Are any of you able to get Autocad files?  If so, who provides
them?  Do you have to justify what they are for?  It would be a huge time
saver for designing the wireless networks in ESS.

One more thing.  I'd like to thank everybody for participating in this
list.  It has been a fantastic resource over the years.

--
Todd Hall
Sr. Network Analyst
Information Technology Services
Mississippi State University
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Helpdesk Troubleshooting of Wireless Issues,>

2017-03-02 Thread Schuette, David 
ROFL... nice.

Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Lee H Badman
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 12:36 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Helpdesk Troubleshooting of Wireless Issues,>

We choose not to have wireless problems, which greatly simplifies life at the 
helpdesk.

Lee Badman | Network Architect

Adjunct Instructor | CWNE #200
Information Technology Services
206 Machinery Hall
120 Smith Drive
Syracuse, New York 13244
t 315.443.3003   f 315.443.4325   e lhbad...@syr.edu w 
its.syr.edu
SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
syr.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Sweetser, Frank E
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 12:54 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Helpdesk Troubleshooting of Wireless Issues,>


Any possibility of sharing that web page?  This sounds like it could be 
extremely useful!


Frank Sweetser
Director of Network Operations
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
"For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant, and wrong." - 
HL Mencken


From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Earl Barfield 
mailto:earl.barfi...@oit.gatech.edu>>
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 12:46 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Helpdesk Troubleshooting of Wireless Issues,>

> Date:Wed, 1 Mar 2017 17:41:45 +
> From:Bryan Sherwood 
> mailto:bryan.sherw...@nau.edu>>
> Subject: Re: Helpdesk Troubleshooting of Wireless Issues
>
> We take a slightly different approach to what has already been shared when it 
> comes to students. When students in either a residence hall or other campus 
> building call in, our student employees on the phone collect the following:
>
> * Drivers (check for updates, ensure that correct drivers are 
> installed)
>
> * Power Settings (ensure that maximum performance is chosen for 
> battery and plugged in)
>
> * Delete/Re-Add Saved Wireless Networks
>
> * Disable Link-Layers
>
> * Disable Printer/File Sharing
>


One of our clever engineers went a step further and wrote a little web
page that gathers much of this information automatically and creates a
helpdesk ticket.

The user who is having problems, assuming he can get connected at all,
can browse to the debug web page.  The script then reaches out to the
XML API in Airwave Management Platform and gathers information such as
which AP they are associated to, which neighbors that AP can see (rogue
and managed, etc).  We do not gather driver version of the client or
anything like that, just concentrating on the infrastructure pieces.

This way we at least get a helpdesk ticket with the users correct IP
address, mac address, etc. from which to start an investigation.


--
Earl Barfield -- Academic & Research Tech / Information Technology
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: earl.barfi...@oit.gatech.edu
e...@gatech.edu

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID names

2017-02-22 Thread Schuette, David 
We found the use of a captive portal to reduce the usage of our infrastructure 
and internet.  We went from over 60,000 unique clients to less than 28,000 a 
day..

Still have to dish out the addresses.



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Jake Snyder 
Date: 2/22/17 9:03 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID names

Clients will connect and take up an IP with or without a captive portal. They 
might stay connected longer without access to the internet, but they hit the 
captive portal which requires an IP.

To me, if you rely on a captive portal to solve dhcp issues, you've undersized 
your subnets and dhcp pools.  I see lots of orgs trying very low dhcp timers to 
"solve" this.  The solution is to have a subnet scoped to support the peak 
number number of unique clients for a given day.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 22, 2017, at 8:16 AM, Jonathan Waldrep 
mailto:wald...@vt.edu>> wrote:

> I do have in my back pocket a plan to flatten these /24s into one larger 
> network if need be

We recently moved to this model and it has been great so far. One /17 network 
per router.

--
Jonathan Waldrep
Network Engineer
Network Infrastructure and Services
Virginia Tech

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Tony Skalski 
mailto:a...@stolaf.edu>> wrote:
>how do you stop roaming mobile devices from sucking up all your dhcp addresses?

Devices always get the same IP address (until we change the VLAN assignments 
for the AP group (i.e. vap profile in Aruba-speak)). Granted, Aruba's 
VALN-assignment hashing algorithm is not perfect and once in a while one of the 
/24s assigned to the guest SSID exceeds 80% used (our alerting threshold), but 
that has only happened a few times since school started in September. I do have 
in my back pocket a plan to flatten these /24s into one larger network if need 
be, given that Aruba has sufficient controls to deal with {broad,multi}cast 
traffic.

ajs

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 7:00 AM, Osborne, Bruce W (Network Operations) 
mailto:bosbo...@liberty.edu>> wrote:
With the captive portal removed, how do you stop roaming mobile devices from 
sucking up all your dhcp addresses? We have found that a captive portal helps 
reduce usage by roaming devices.


Bruce Osborne
Senior Network Engineer
Network Operations - Wireless

 (434) 592-4229

LIBERTY UNIVERSITY
Training Champions for Christ since 1971

From: Tony Skalski [mailto:a...@stolaf.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: SSID names

Up until this past summer, we had three SSIDs: a guest SSID, an open SSID for 
college users and a 1x protected SSID for college users. There was considerable 
overlap between the open and guest SSIDs, so we collapsed them into one. We now 
have: eduroam and 'St. Olaf Guest'. We decided we were OK with 1x-incapable 
devices using the guest network and removed the captive portal we had on the 
old guest SSID.


On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Adam T Ferrero 
mailto:a...@temple.edu>> wrote:

  These have served us pretty well.  We only have a mac auth SSID in our 
residence halls.  Occasionally it would be useful to have it everywhere but we 
don't currently.

TUsecurewirelessWPA2 enterprise which gives different access levels 
(staff, student, guest)
TUguestwireless Open for onboarding (SMS text credentials)
eduroam Guest like access for anyone

  Adam

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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
 On Behalf Of Michael Dickson
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 4:02 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] SSID names
eduroam  (our only 802.1x offering)
UMASS  (open, CP, primarily for guests)
UMASS-DEVICES  (MAC auth'd device support for non-802.1x capable devices, as 
allowed by policy)

Mike

Michael Dickson
Network Analyst
Information Technology
University of Massachusetts Amherst
413-545-9639
michael.dick...@umass.edu
PGP: 0x16777D39


On 2017-02-21 15:36, Jim Stasik wrote:
> Hello, I have been encouraged by one of our governance bodies to
> consider renaming our wireless SSIDs to better match the network names
> to the function of the networks behind them.  I don’t get it, but
> maybe I am a little too close to it.  We don’t have any residential on
> our campuses so have just two primary SSIDs in use on our campus (as
> well as eduRoam).  One is named Public and is our onboarding/guest
> network.  The other is our authenticated/secure network which we call
> MC3Waves and is for all students, staff, faculty and administrators,
> with 802.1x on the back end to steer the end user to the appropriate
> role.  We have had these network around for as long as I can remember
> (15 years maybe).  I am curious how others are naming and

[WIRELESS-LAN] Design question

2017-01-10 Thread Schuette, David 
For budgetary planning and rough expectation for number of APs to install.

We are currently looking to start upgrading our buildings to AC wave 2, and was 
wondering for high density what figure you use to calculate for number of AP's 
to building rough square footage.

I have been told by Aerohive to use 3000 SQ FT per AP. 

So in one of my buildings with 128,132 SQ FT; I would need roughly 43 access 
points to provide good coverage.

I am in a campus which is shared with other institutions, they use Cisco and 
have informed me they use 2500 SQFT, which would be 52 units.

Thoughts? What do you use?

Thanks
David
David Schuette 
Network-Data Security Manager 
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

2016-06-29 Thread Schuette, David 
We met with Wi-Fiber, it was more an introduction then presentation. They 
discussed how they work. We were interested in there pricing model and 
requested a budgetary estimate for 30,000 students. They want to cover the 
outside areas which sounds good. Too early to really have an opinion of the 
solution. As we get more information, costs and analyze their proposal I will 
provide feedback to this group.

Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Schuette, David
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 5:17 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

I will

Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu<http://www.msudenver.edu>

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Davidoff, Michel
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 5:11 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

Would you mind updating us after the meeting?

Thanks

Michel Davidoff
Director CyberInfrastructure
California State University, Chancellor's Office
Tel  562 951 8419
Cell 707 481 1084

It is amazing what we can achieve together when nobody cares who gets the credit



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of "Schuette, David" 
mailto:schue...@msudenver.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 4:01 PM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

They do their presentation to me next Monday.. Interesting.

Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu<http://www.msudenver.edu>

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Adams (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:55 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

I got a sales pitch from this group today also.

One line of interest, in this white paper from their website: 
http://wi-fiber.us/casestudies/Georgetown%20Prep%20Wireless%20Giga%20Campus.pdf

“Donation: wi-fiber will donate all wireless devices and the associated network 
management equipment to The Georgetown Preparatory School at no cost. The 
Georgetown Preparatory School will be responsible for monthly maintenance and 
bandwidth utilization fees.”

I’ve not experienced on premise pay per use wireless infrastructure! It would 
have to be a seriously fantastic product to be better than a pair of ubiquiti 
airfiber and entice me to subscribe to monthly recurring costs.

Thanks,

Chris Adams, CISSP

Director, Network & Telecom Services
Division of Information Technology
University of North Georgia
E-Mail: chris.ad...@ung.edu<mailto:chris.ad...@ung.edu> | Office: (706) 867-2891

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Watts
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:17 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince


So the spec sheet on that site mentions 2Gbps over 802.11N 2x2 MIMO.

Nope.

Unfortunately that looks like vaporware or a  site designed to look like a real 
product until you read it.

The WiFiber SmartSecurity paper talks about motion detecting IP cameras and the 
next bullet mentions his these same cameras can be used to share moments with 
family and friends.

It's like someone took data sheets from five different products that are not 
wireless backhaul and smooshed them together.

I wouldn't care if the in-person pitch was perfect, if I saw that website I 
would run away.

If it IS wireless backhaul you're shopping for then there are plenty of decent 
products including the aforementioned Airfiber from Ubiquiti.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:01

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

2016-06-23 Thread Schuette, David 
I will

Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Davidoff, Michel
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 5:11 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

Would you mind updating us after the meeting?

Thanks

Michel Davidoff
Director CyberInfrastructure
California State University, Chancellor's Office
Tel  562 951 8419
Cell 707 481 1084

It is amazing what we can achieve together when nobody cares who gets the credit



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of "Schuette, David" 
mailto:schue...@msudenver.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Thursday, June 23, 2016 at 4:01 PM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>" 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

They do their presentation to me next Monday.. Interesting.

Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu<http://www.msudenver.edu>

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Adams (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:55 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

I got a sales pitch from this group today also.

One line of interest, in this white paper from their website: 
http://wi-fiber.us/casestudies/Georgetown%20Prep%20Wireless%20Giga%20Campus.pdf

“Donation: wi-fiber will donate all wireless devices and the associated network 
management equipment to The Georgetown Preparatory School at no cost. The 
Georgetown Preparatory School will be responsible for monthly maintenance and 
bandwidth utilization fees.”

I’ve not experienced on premise pay per use wireless infrastructure! It would 
have to be a seriously fantastic product to be better than a pair of ubiquiti 
airfiber and entice me to subscribe to monthly recurring costs.

Thanks,

Chris Adams, CISSP

Director, Network & Telecom Services
Division of Information Technology
University of North Georgia
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Watts
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:17 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince


So the spec sheet on that site mentions 2Gbps over 802.11N 2x2 MIMO.

Nope.

Unfortunately that looks like vaporware or a  site designed to look like a real 
product until you read it.

The WiFiber SmartSecurity paper talks about motion detecting IP cameras and the 
next bullet mentions his these same cameras can be used to share moments with 
family and friends.

It's like someone took data sheets from five different products that are not 
wireless backhaul and smooshed them together.

I wouldn't care if the in-person pitch was perfect, if I saw that website I 
would run away.

If it IS wireless backhaul you're shopping for then there are plenty of decent 
products including the aforementioned Airfiber from Ubiquiti.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:01 AM, Davidoff, Michel 
mailto:mdavid...@calstate.edu>> wrote:
How about Wi-Fiber <http://wi-fiber.us/index.htm>



Michel Davidoff
Director CyberInfrastructure
California State University, Chancellor's Office
Tel  562 951 8419
Cell 707 481 1084

It is amazing what we can achieve together when nobody cares who gets the credit



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> 
on behalf of Jeremy Gibbs mailto:jlgi...@utica.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>>
Date: Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 6:51 PM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>" 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

You know, I needed a laugh today and someone delivered, thanks!

In all seriousness, are you referring to Ubiquiti 
Air

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

2016-06-23 Thread Schuette, David 
They do their presentation to me next Monday.. Interesting.

Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Chris Adams (IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 12:55 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

I got a sales pitch from this group today also.

One line of interest, in this white paper from their website: 
http://wi-fiber.us/casestudies/Georgetown%20Prep%20Wireless%20Giga%20Campus.pdf

“Donation: wi-fiber will donate all wireless devices and the associated network 
management equipment to The Georgetown Preparatory School at no cost. The 
Georgetown Preparatory School will be responsible for monthly maintenance and 
bandwidth utilization fees.”

I’ve not experienced on premise pay per use wireless infrastructure! It would 
have to be a seriously fantastic product to be better than a pair of ubiquiti 
airfiber and entice me to subscribe to monthly recurring costs.

Thanks,

Chris Adams, CISSP

Director, Network & Telecom Services
Division of Information Technology
University of North Georgia
E-Mail: chris.ad...@ung.edu | Office: (706) 867-2891

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jason Watts
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 7:17 AM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince


So the spec sheet on that site mentions 2Gbps over 802.11N 2x2 MIMO.

Nope.

Unfortunately that looks like vaporware or a  site designed to look like a real 
product until you read it.

The WiFiber SmartSecurity paper talks about motion detecting IP cameras and the 
next bullet mentions his these same cameras can be used to share moments with 
family and friends.

It's like someone took data sheets from five different products that are not 
wireless backhaul and smooshed them together.

I wouldn't care if the in-person pitch was perfect, if I saw that website I 
would run away.

If it IS wireless backhaul you're shopping for then there are plenty of decent 
products including the aforementioned Airfiber from Ubiquiti.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2016, at 3:01 AM, Davidoff, Michel 
mailto:mdavid...@calstate.edu>> wrote:
How about Wi-Fiber 



Michel Davidoff
Director CyberInfrastructure
California State University, Chancellor's Office
Tel  562 951 8419
Cell 707 481 1084

It is amazing what we can achieve together when nobody cares who gets the credit



From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> 
on behalf of Jeremy Gibbs mailto:jlgi...@utica.edu>>
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>>
Date: Thursday, June 16, 2016 at 6:51 PM
To: 
"WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU" 
mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>>
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Wi-Fiber experince

You know, I needed a laugh today and someone delivered, thanks!

In all seriousness, are you referring to Ubiquiti 
Airfiber?


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Jeremy L. Gibbs
Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS

T: (315) 223-2383
F: (315) 792-3814
E: jlgi...@utica.edu
http://www.utica.edu

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Samuel Clements 
mailto:scleme...@gmail.com>> wrote:
802.11bh ?

This email sent from a mobile computing device. Please excuse typos and brevity.

On Jun 16, 2016, at 8:25 PM, Jeremy Gibbs 
mailto:jlgi...@utica.edu>> wrote:
Yup, googled it and came up with Wisconsin Sheep and Wool 
Festival.  I don't think that's 
right..


--

Jeremy L. Gibbs
Sr. Network Engineer
Utica College IITS

T: (315) 223-2383
F: (315) 792-3814
E: jlgi...@utica.edu
http://www.utica.edu

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Jason Watts 
mailto:jwa...@pratt.edu>> wrote:

That doesn't appear to be a real website

On 6/16/2016 4:19 PM, Davidoff, Michel wrote:
I would like to know if you have heard or if you are using products from 
wi-fiber.com for inside or outside deployment.



Michel Davidoff
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California State University, Chancellor's Office
Tel  562 951 8419
Cell 707 481 1084

We all work better when we work together!


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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid

2016-06-20 Thread Schuette, David 
Reading everyone comments about edu-roam has me believing it is an old standard 
which needs to be updated for today's security needs.



Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: "Curtis K. Larsen" 
Date: 6/20/16 6:04 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid

The PEAP vulnerability is only mitigated by requiring EAP-TLS and disabling 
PEAP.  (It may help a
little to recommend the CAT tool or similar, but not much)  We've recommended 
similar tools for 9
years - I know the take rates - they aren't great.  Why?  Because it is 
optional.

All I am pointing out is that one cannot say that they have completely 
mitigated 100% the PEAP
vulnerability while still running eduroam.  I can say that for my primary SSID.

Thanks,

Curtis


On Mon, June 20, 2016 5:19 pm, Jeremy Mooney wrote:
> How would you plan to mitigate for your users at remote institutions if
> they're not verifying the certificate? It seems you can only prevent at at
> the IdP side of your radius infrastructure, and your clients can only trust
> they're talking to that server by verifying the certificate. If they don't
> verify the certificate, anyone can claim to be your server and just allow
> PEAP without you ever seeing the traffic. Technically that's also the case
> locally (someone else stands up an AP) and you could at most maybe see it
> happened but not block it (at least without going into the legal minefield
> of active rogue mitigation).
>
> I'd think that the best you can hope for (without solving the problem of
> users falling for phishing/MitM in general) is just only allowing EAP-TLS
> so any client with a working config for your institution won't use PEAP,
> but that doesn't require blocking PEAP on the SP side.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Curtis K. Larsen 
> wrote:
>
>> It's done on the RADIUS server, that's kind of my point.  You have a
>> service in your environment
>> that may pose risk to some and you can't control it.
>>
>> I can mitigate the PEAP vulnerability for our users on campus, and our
>> users at remote
>> institutions, but I cannot mitigate that same vulnerability for another
>> institutions' users on my
>> campus.
>>
>> -Curtis
>>
>>
>> On Mon, June 20, 2016 3:50 pm, Chuck Enfield wrote:
>> > How would you disable PEAP on the eduroam SSID?  I've never noticed a
>> > setting for that.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
>> > [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Curtis K.
>> Larsen
>> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 5:19 PM
>> > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid
>> >
>> > Yes it does work.  That's the problem - PEAP is vulnerable to Evil Twin
>> > attacks so we are disabling PEAP.  Doing that on eduroam would break all
>> > institutions that still offer it.  Leaving it enabled exposes users at
>> our
>> > institution.
>> >
>> > -Curtis
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: Johnson, Neil M [neil-john...@uiowa.edu]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 2:52 PM
>> > To: Curtis K. Larsen
>> > Cc: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
>> > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] eduroam ssid
>> >
>> > eduroam should work with just about any authentication method that uses
>> > EAP (PEAP,TLS,TTLS) etc.
>> >
>> > So if your are say moving to TLS (Client certificates) it should still
>> > just work.
>> >
>> > -Neil
>> >
>> > --
>> > Neil Johnson
>> > Network Engineer
>> > The University of Iowa
>> > Phone: 319 384-0938
>> > Fax: 319 335-2951
>> > E-Mail: neil-john...@uiowa.edu
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Jun 17, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Curtis K. Larsen
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We're beginning to run into this problem as well.  Luckily, eduroam is
>> >> not our primary SSID so at least the critical business functions
>> >> continue to work fine on a separate SSID.  My guess is that we'll end up
>> > turning eduroam off at those remote locations if problems get reported.
>> >>
>> >> In talking with the eduroam admin from the other institution they
>> >> mentioned that when this occurs in Europe the solution has been to
>> >> change the name of the SSID.  Is this really allowed?  If so, I'm
>> >> sold!  Then we can start using our primary SSID with eduroam
>> >> credentials!  This is what I always thought eduroam should have been.
>> >> To me the value was always in the universal credential
>> >> *NOT* the SSID name.  That was always a drawback for me especially as
>> >> supplicants become easier to configure.
>> >>
>> >> The other problem that we're going to run into soon is that we will be
>> >> phasing out PEAP on our main SSID to mitigate against the evil twin
>> >> vulnerability, but what do we do with eduroam?  I mean I guess you
>> >> could say it is the remote institution's problem, or the user's
>> >> problem if they connect to an evil twin on your campus because they're
>> >> not val

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Who WiFi vendors does everyone use? REVISITED

2016-04-01 Thread Schuette, David 
Metropolitan State University of Denver (MSUDenver)
28,000 Clients daily  (almost even split 2.4 to 5 G usage)
Before splash page on our guest WIFI 65,000 Clients daily
474 Aerohive Aps
Standalone Aps or thick
Aerohive hivemanager

Guest access open SSID with limited bandwidth, splash page,  and restricted by 
Firewall
Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:05 AM, Watters, John 
mailto:john.watt...@ua.edu>> wrote:
Can we revisit this subject? It seems to have gotten a good number of responses 
but the information is of limited use without other information to go with it.

If folks will send me information on their wireless networks I will tabulate it 
and send it back out to the list.

How about the following info:

School name
Total number of clients served (faculty + staff + students + guess at guests) 
during a typical school day
Brand(s) of APs in use and approximate number of APs for each brand
Whether the APs are standalone or controller based
Wireless management platform (e.g., Cisco Prime, HP Aruba Airwave, none, etc.)


For the University of Alabama I would answer as follows:

The University of Alabama
45,000 clients
Cisco 5,000 APs
Controller based
HP Aruba Airwave management


If others want to suggest additional questions, that is fine as long as we can 
get them soon enough so that most people who respond will have answers to all 
of the questions. Why don't we collect questions until next WED and try to get 
the poll sent out next THU?




-jcw
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John Watters   The University of Alabama
Office of Information Technology
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Who wifi vendors does everyone use?

2016-03-30 Thread Schuette, David 
MSU Denver is an Aerohive shop



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RE: request for info on WiFi Analyzer Pro software

2015-12-11 Thread Schuette, David 
Yes the Fluke Optiview with Airmagnet software is a blessing.

Thanks
David
David Schuette
Network-Data Security Manager
Information Technology Services
METROPOLITAN STATE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER
Campus Box 96, P.O. Box 173362  |  Denver, CO 80217-3362
Tel 303-556-4639  |  Fax 303-556-2548
www.msudenver.edu

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Legge, Jeffry
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 12:41 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] request for info on WiFi Analyzer Pro software

I am using it and am happy with it.

-Jeff Legge
Radford University

From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Sullivan, Don
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 2:37 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] request for info on WiFi Analyzer Pro software

I wanted to query the list to see if anybody was using the AirMagnet WiFi 
Analyzer Pro software and what was their experience with it. We are currently 
looking at it to enhance our troubleshooting tools and was wondering if it was 
worth the expense. Thanks.

Don Sullivan
Network Administrator
205-726-2111


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