Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
I have have doubts when planning to use the modular slot for 802.11ac wave 2 upgrade (mainly as 11ac W2 requires a radio re-design). However, if you plan to do bluetooth low energy for detemining fine-grained user location, this slot may become your not too expensive friend. -Frans Jeffrey D. Sessler schreef op 06/08/15 om 16:48: > In theory, the 3702i should perform better at longer distances then > the 2702i, especially in demanding spaces such as residential. Unless > you setup a test bed that replicates a demanding space, you’ll never > see the benefit i.e. Single client test against AP in open space, 15 > feet away, with minimal clients attached. Put the two AP’s in higher > density residence hall of mixed material, a typical client load, with > associated clients 30 feet or more away, and the 3702i will outperform > the 2702i. > > We’re using the 3702i, and with discounts and promotions, I’m paying > nearly the same price as the 2702i. For the slight cost difference, it > wasn’t worth debating. > > Jeff > > From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu > <mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" on behalf of "Deshong, > Kenneth" > Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu > <mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 1:35 PM > To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu > <mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series > > I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. > > > > In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper > alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the > line Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have > similar specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link > 3.0, CleanAir 2.0. I don’t plan on using the Modular slot . > > > > I’ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, > and performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? > > ** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
In theory, the 3702i should perform better at longer distances then the 2702i, especially in demanding spaces such as residential. Unless you setup a test bed that replicates a demanding space, you’ll never see the benefit i.e. Single client test against AP in open space, 15 feet away, with minimal clients attached. Put the two AP’s in higher density residence hall of mixed material, a typical client load, with associated clients 30 feet or more away, and the 3702i will outperform the 2702i. We’re using the 3702i, and with discounts and promotions, I’m paying nearly the same price as the 2702i. For the slight cost difference, it wasn’t worth debating. Jeff From: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" on behalf of "Deshong, Kenneth" Reply-To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 1:35 PM To: "wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the line Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have similar specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link 3.0, CleanAir 2.0. I don’t plan on using the Modular slot . I’ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, and performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
Thanks guys for the input. Ken DeShong Network Engineer [Health IS Email Logo (2)] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Atkins Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:57 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series Same here, 2702 is our standard AP. Side note: We have a open position in networking and are looking for someone with with WiFi background. http://jobs.nd.edu:80/postings/2624<http://jobs.nd.edu/postings/2624> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Hector J Rios mailto:hr...@lsu.edu>> wrote: I second that. We started deploying 3700’s but we quickly saw that the performance of the 2700 was comparable and the savings was worth it. So now that is our standard WAP. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] On Behalf Of Walter Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:55 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series For cost savings as well we are using the 2702's as the primary AP that we deploy on campus. Walter Reynolds Principal Systems Security Development Engineer Information and Technology Services University of Michigan (734) 615-9438 On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Tony Juarez mailto:ajua...@uchicago.edu>> wrote: We have started using the 2702i’s in are smaller locations, and use the 3702’s on the main campus. Tony Juarez, CCNP Wireless Senior Network Engineer - Wireless IT Services [banner-a-color-600100percent] 773-702-5592 (Office) 773-230-7923 (Cell) From: , Kenneth mailto:kdesh...@health.usf.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the line Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have similar specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link 3.0, CleanAir 2.0. I don’t plan on using the Modular slot . I’ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, and performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. -- Mike Atkins Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Notre Dame -Sent from gmail.nd.edu<http://gmail.nd.edu> ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
Same here, 2702 is our standard AP. Side note: We have a open position in networking and are looking for someone with with WiFi background. http://jobs.nd.edu:80/postings/2624 <http://jobs.nd.edu/postings/2624> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:44 AM, Hector J Rios wrote: > I second that. We started deploying 3700’s but we quickly saw that the > performance of the 2700 was comparable and the savings was worth it. So now > that is our standard WAP. > > > > Hector Rios > > Louisiana State University > > > > *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: > WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Walter Reynolds > *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:55 AM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series > > > > For cost savings as well we are using the 2702's as the primary AP that we > deploy on campus. > > > > > > > Walter Reynolds > > Principal Systems Security Development Engineer > Information and Technology Services > University of Michigan > (734) 615-9438 > > > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Tony Juarez wrote: > > We have started using the 2702i’s in are smaller locations, and use the > 3702’s on the main campus. > > > > > > Tony Juarez, CCNP Wireless > > Senior Network Engineer - Wireless > > IT Services > > [image: banner-a-color-600100percent] > > 773-702-5592 (Office) > > 773-230-7923 (Cell) > > > > > > *From: *, Kenneth > *Reply-To: *The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu> > *Date: *Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM > *To: *"WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu" < > WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu> > *Subject: *[WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series > > > > I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. > > > > In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper > alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the line > Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have similar > specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link 3.0, CleanAir > 2.0. I don’t plan on using the Modular slot . > > > > I’ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, and > performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > -- *Mike Atkins * Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Notre Dame -Sent from gmail.nd.edu ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
We went the same route. Started with the 3700’s but after deciding that we probably would not use the modular slot we switched to deploying 2700’s across campus – with the exception of 702w’s for the dorms. Stephen Belcher | Assistant Director of Network Operations West Virginia University steve.belc...@mail.wvu.edu<mailto:steve.belc...@mail.wvu.edu> From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hector J Rios Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:45 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series I second that. We started deploying 3700’s but we quickly saw that the performance of the 2700 was comparable and the savings was worth it. So now that is our standard WAP. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Walter Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:55 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series For cost savings as well we are using the 2702's as the primary AP that we deploy on campus. Walter Reynolds Principal Systems Security Development Engineer Information and Technology Services University of Michigan (734) 615-9438 On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Tony Juarez mailto:ajua...@uchicago.edu>> wrote: We have started using the 2702i’s in are smaller locations, and use the 3702’s on the main campus. Tony Juarez, CCNP Wireless Senior Network Engineer - Wireless IT Services [banner-a-color-600100percent] 773-702-5592 (Office) 773-230-7923 (Cell) From: , Kenneth mailto:kdesh...@health.usf.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the line Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have similar specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link 3.0, CleanAir 2.0. I don’t plan on using the Modular slot . I’ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, and performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
I second that. We started deploying 3700’s but we quickly saw that the performance of the 2700 was comparable and the savings was worth it. So now that is our standard WAP. Hector Rios Louisiana State University From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Walter Reynolds Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:55 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series For cost savings as well we are using the 2702's as the primary AP that we deploy on campus. Walter Reynolds Principal Systems Security Development Engineer Information and Technology Services University of Michigan (734) 615-9438 On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Tony Juarez mailto:ajua...@uchicago.edu>> wrote: We have started using the 2702i’s in are smaller locations, and use the 3702’s on the main campus. Tony Juarez, CCNP Wireless Senior Network Engineer - Wireless IT Services [banner-a-color-600100percent] 773-702-5592 (Office) 773-230-7923 (Cell) From: , Kenneth mailto:kdesh...@health.usf.edu>> Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>" mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu>> Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the line Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have similar specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link 3.0, CleanAir 2.0. I don’t plan on using the Modular slot . I’ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, and performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
For cost savings as well we are using the 2702's as the primary AP that we deploy on campus. Walter Reynolds Principal Systems Security Development Engineer Information and Technology Services University of Michigan (734) 615-9438 On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Tony Juarez wrote: > We have started using the 2702i’s in are smaller locations, and use the > 3702’s on the main campus. > > > > Tony Juarez, CCNP Wireless > > Senior Network Engineer - Wireless > > IT Services > > [image: banner-a-color-600100percent] > > 773-702-5592 (Office) > > 773-230-7923 (Cell) > > > From: , Kenneth > Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv < > WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu> > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM > To: "WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu" < > WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu> > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series > > I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. > > > > In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper > alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the line > Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have similar > specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link 3.0, CleanAir > 2.0. I don’t plan on using the Modular slot . > > > > I’ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, and > performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
We have started using the 2702i¹s in are smaller locations, and use the 3702¹s on the main campus. Tony Juarez, CCNP Wireless Senior Network Engineer - Wireless IT Services 773-702-5592 (Office) 773-230-7923 (Cell) From: , Kenneth Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:35 PM To: "WIRELESS-LAN@listserv.educause.edu" Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the line Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have similar specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link 3.0, CleanAir 2.0. I don¹t plan on using the Modular slot . I¹ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, and performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series
They should perform near identically. Well within the margin of error of whatever test you are doing. Actually if you look at the specs, the RX sensitivity of the 2700 is better than the 3700. If you have a compelling use case for the module, go 3700. If you don't, go 2700. Thanks Jake Snyder jsny...@compunet.biz 208-286-3015 Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 5, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Sullivan, Don wrote: > > Our Cisco sales guy pretty much sold us our 2702s on those points because we > had initially requested the 3702s. I cannot tell you for sure if there is any > difference because we have not deployed 3702s. > > Don Sullivan > Network Administrator > 205-726-2111 > > From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Deshong, Kenneth > Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 3:36 PM > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco Aironet Series > > I have a question that I hope someone can help me with. > > In the hope of saving money, my boss wants me to look at a cheaper > alternative to the 3702i in areas that might not need a top of the line > Access Point. In my comparison, I find the Aironet 2702i to have similar > specs minus the 4x4 radio. Both support 802.11ac, Client Link 3.0, CleanAir > 2.0. I don’t plan on using the Modular slot . > > I’ve read from limited sources that say the electrons are the same, and > performance is neck and neck. Can anyone debunk that? > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE > Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
