Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] High Availability for 2+1 scenario with Cisco WLCs

2014-07-18 Thread Kitri Waterman
Matt,

Perhaps obvious reminder: 7.6 gives you AP and client SSO. 7.4 only
gives you AP failover. Client SSO is a thing of beauty: We see perhaps
1-2 lost client pings during the fail over. Not that there should ever
be failovers, right?

I would definitely recommend the 7.6.120.6 engineering version which
fixes some major crash issues that Curtis and others have alluded to.

Are you going to do 1:1 to different locations for site redundancy?
Several of us do HA / 1:1 to different chassis (non-VSS).

Kitri
--
University of Oregon

On 7/18/14, 7:58 AM, Hector J Rios wrote:

 Matt,

  

 We have been running N+1 for quite a while and never had any major
 issues. In our configuration we had three wireless core locations were
 only two of those had enough HAs to back up an entire core site.  But
 this summer we are moving to AP and Client SSO for true high
 availability. N+1 was fine in the past when wireless was not
 considered mission critical, but today more and more students and
 professors are relying on wireless and we must have a solution that
 will have the least impact. SSO promises that. We are running 7.6

  

 Thanks,

  

 Hector Rios

 Louisiana State University

  

  

  

  

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 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Ashfield,
 Matt (NBCC)
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:21 PM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] High Availability for 2+1 scenario with
 Cisco WLCs

  

 Hello

  

 Up until now, we have had a very distributed approach to our
 controllers, with no redundancy. We are centralizing our controllers
 with the idea of having at least 2 5508 WLCs and one High Availability
 5508. When we were working with a consultant today, he indicated that
 his experience in using an HA controller to act as HA for more than
 one 5508 did not yield good results. He recommended using a 1:1
 relationship for controller and HA controller. He did state however
 this was with 7.4.x code and he hadn't tried it with newer levels of code.


 I thought I'd check here if anyone has had similar experiences and/or
 comments about their experience in the N+1 scenario, and if they say
 improvements or lack of issues with 7.6 code.

  

 Any help/advice is appreciated.

  

 Thanks

  

  

  

 Matt

  

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] High Availability for 2+1 scenario with Cisco WLCs

2014-07-18 Thread Danny Eaton
7.5 actually got us AP and client SSO failover. 7.6 got us the 3702s.

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Mega™, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone

div Original message /divdivFrom: Kitri Waterman 
ki...@uoregon.edu /divdivDate:18/07/2014  12:05  (GMT-06:00) 
/divdivTo: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU /divdivSubject: Re: 
[WIRELESS-LAN] High Availability for 2+1 scenario with Cisco WLCs /divdiv
/divMatt,

Perhaps obvious reminder: 7.6 gives you AP and client SSO. 7.4 only gives you 
AP failover. Client SSO is a thing of beauty: We see perhaps 1-2 lost client 
pings during the fail over. Not that there should ever be failovers, right?

I would definitely recommend the 7.6.120.6 engineering version which fixes some 
major crash issues that Curtis and others have alluded to.

Are you going to do 1:1 to different locations for site redundancy? Several of 
us do HA / 1:1 to different chassis (non-VSS). 

Kitri
--
University of Oregon

On 7/18/14, 7:58 AM, Hector J Rios wrote:
Matt,
 
We have been running N+1 for quite a while and never had any major issues. In 
our configuration we had three wireless core locations were only two of those 
had enough HAs to back up an entire core site.  But this summer we are moving 
to AP and Client SSO for true high availability. N+1 was fine in the past when 
wireless was not considered mission critical, but today more and more students 
and professors are relying on wireless and we must have a solution that will 
have the least impact. SSO promises that. We are running 7.6
 
Thanks,
 
Hector Rios
Louisiana State University
 
 
 
 
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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ashfield, Matt (NBCC)
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:21 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] High Availability for 2+1 scenario with Cisco WLCs
 
Hello
 
Up until now, we have had a very distributed approach to our controllers, with 
no redundancy. We are centralizing our controllers with the idea of having at 
least 2 5508 WLCs and one High Availability 5508. When we were working with a 
consultant today, he indicated that his experience in using an HA controller to 
act as HA for more than one 5508 did not yield good results. He recommended 
using a 1:1 relationship for controller and HA controller. He did state however 
this was with 7.4.x code and he hadn’t tried it with newer levels of code.

I thought I’d check here if anyone has had similar experiences and/or comments 
about their experience in the N+1 scenario, and if they say improvements or 
lack of issues with 7.6 code.
 
Any help/advice is appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
 
 
Matt
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] High Availability for 2+1 scenario with Cisco WLCs

2014-07-18 Thread Kitri Waterman
Correct sir, but them bugs...


Kitri
--
University of Oregon


On 7/18/14, 10:20 AM, Danny Eaton wrote:
 7.5 actually got us AP and client SSO failover. 7.6 got us the 3702s.

 Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Mega™, an ATT 4G LTE smartphone


  Original message 
 From: Kitri Waterman
 Date:18/07/2014 12:05 (GMT-06:00)
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] High Availability for 2+1 scenario with
 Cisco WLCs

 Matt,

 Perhaps obvious reminder: 7.6 gives you AP and client SSO. 7.4 only
 gives you AP failover. Client SSO is a thing of beauty: We see perhaps
 1-2 lost client pings during the fail over. Not that there should ever
 be failovers, right?

 I would definitely recommend the 7.6.120.6 engineering version which
 fixes some major crash issues that Curtis and others have alluded to.

 Are you going to do 1:1 to different locations for site redundancy?
 Several of us do HA / 1:1 to different chassis (non-VSS).

 Kitri
 --
 University of Oregon

 On 7/18/14, 7:58 AM, Hector J Rios wrote:

 Matt,

  

 We have been running N+1 for quite a while and never had any major
 issues. In our configuration we had three wireless core locations
 were only two of those had enough HAs to back up an entire core site.
  But this summer we are moving to AP and Client SSO for true high
 availability. N+1 was fine in the past when wireless was not
 considered mission critical, but today more and more students and
 professors are relying on wireless and we must have a solution that
 will have the least impact. SSO promises that. We are running 7.6

  

 Thanks,

  

 Hector Rios

 Louisiana State University

  

  

  

  

 *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Ashfield,
 Matt (NBCC)
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:21 PM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] High Availability for 2+1 scenario with
 Cisco WLCs

  

 Hello

  

 Up until now, we have had a very distributed approach to our
 controllers, with no redundancy. We are centralizing our controllers
 with the idea of having at least 2 5508 WLCs and one High
 Availability 5508. When we were working with a consultant today, he
 indicated that his experience in using an HA controller to act as HA
 for more than one 5508 did not yield good results. He recommended
 using a 1:1 relationship for controller and HA controller. He did
 state however this was with 7.4.x code and he hadn’t tried it with
 newer levels of code.


 I thought I’d check here if anyone has had similar experiences and/or
 comments about their experience in the N+1 scenario, and if they say
 improvements or lack of issues with 7.6 code.

  

 Any help/advice is appreciated.

  

 Thanks

  

  

  

 Matt

  

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