RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
Haven't had too much experience with DAS systems; however, the stadiums scenarios are understandable. With 100,000+ people (and at least 1 wireless device per person) in a defined area, I'm sure it put stress on the nearby communication towers, resulting in poor reception\speeds for the end user. With DAS in the stadium, users will get much better performance (example use cases: more Instagram uploads - just think how many Instavideos were uploaded at the end of the Alabama/Auburn game, better streaming on ESPN Watch app to watch other games, or stream Netflix to keep uninterested children entertained). The case of DAS in the stadiums is understandable; however, I am not sure on its benefit to be installed throughout campus. I believe it depends on your scenario. I would say to make sure you have a reasonable ROI. P.S. Mr. Watters, sorry about the Alabama/Auburn reference :) Damien Cameron Network Engineer Norfolk State University Office of Information Technology Marie v. McDemmond Center for applied Research Room 401 555 Park Avenue Norfolk, VA 23504 O: (757) 823-9123 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:38 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless Did they only do DAS in your stadium? Or, did they also do 802.11 there and/or other places? We have a DAS system in our stadium that ATT and Verizon jointly funded. It seems to be doing fairly well. They share a rather small room for their head-end stuff. It's interesting to see the differences between the equipment used by these two carriers. -jcw [cid:image001.jpg@01CF26FD.A6102110] John Watters The University of Alabama Office of Information Technology 205-348-3992 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hanset, Philippe C Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:24 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless University of Tennessee Knoxville entered into such an agreement. Their interest was to cover the Stadium. It's done, and it seems to work well. There are many providers of such service, and UTK used a competitive bidding. Two things that I can remember from that agreement: -Once the initial contract is signed (revenue sharing, infrastructure, etc...), it takes also a long time to sign a contract with each carrier that will join the shared infrastructure. -Also, the late Dewitt Latimer was always warning campuses: If carriers are interested in one particular location of your campus (because they can reach other interesting locations from there), make sure to negotiate a complete coverage, don't allow a partial one that is only in the interest of the carrier! Be ready for many back and forth between the two legal department! Philippe Hanset www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Ray DeJean r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu wrote: All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.orghttp://r-a-y.org/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. inline: image001.jpg
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
On 02/10/2014 11:22 AM, Ray DeJean wrote: All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. We worked a deal where verizon contracts with a third party to build a DAS system on our campus. This system is a multi-vendor system with verizon as the primary vendor. We are currently trying to get ATT on the system as well. We have about 5 buildings on it currently and are doing a couple more this summer. The upside is it is all on verizon's dime. The downside is it is also all on their schedule. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
I am not looking at allowing the cell vendors to spread 802.11 stuff around campus. The Athletics folks are interested though in providing 802.11 in the stadium. They have had several different vendors come in since then to look at it and the price continues to be too high for them. They, like most others, cannot believe the high cost of technology, particularly when it is only for 7 games each year. We have had folks in the past that wanted to installed a DAS system around campus for cell coverage. But, none were ever able to get any of the big providers interested in using it. And, we are not interested in using them for 802.11 stuff. So, they just went away. Cell coverage on campus is good anyway. Both Verizon ATT have a couple of towers close by. I'm don't dislike the UA-Auburn reference nearly as much as I dislike the way we played the last couple of games. I guess I could say wait til next year. But, it might be a couple of years. We lost a lot of folks both on the offense the defense. But, we signed some players that look good. Maybe in a couple of years things will be better if the young players pan out. PS: The UA-Auburn game was played at Auburn. Roll Tide. -jcw [cid:image001.jpg@01CF2727.DFCC9C10] John Watters The University of Alabama Office of Information Technology 205-348-3992 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Cameron, Damien L. Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:48 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless Haven't had too much experience with DAS systems; however, the stadiums scenarios are understandable. With 100,000+ people (and at least 1 wireless device per person) in a defined area, I'm sure it put stress on the nearby communication towers, resulting in poor reception\speeds for the end user. With DAS in the stadium, users will get much better performance (example use cases: more Instagram uploads - just think how many Instavideos were uploaded at the end of the Alabama/Auburn game, better streaming on ESPN Watch app to watch other games, or stream Netflix to keep uninterested children entertained). The case of DAS in the stadiums is understandable; however, I am not sure on its benefit to be installed throughout campus. I believe it depends on your scenario. I would say to make sure you have a reasonable ROI. P.S. Mr. Watters, sorry about the Alabama/Auburn reference :) Damien Cameron Network Engineer Norfolk State University Office of Information Technology Marie v. McDemmond Center for applied Research Room 401 555 Park Avenue Norfolk, VA 23504 O: (757) 823-9123 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Watters, John Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 5:38 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless Did they only do DAS in your stadium? Or, did they also do 802.11 there and/or other places? We have a DAS system in our stadium that ATT and Verizon jointly funded. It seems to be doing fairly well. They share a rather small room for their head-end stuff. It's interesting to see the differences between the equipment used by these two carriers. -jcw [cid:image002.jpg@01CF2727.DFCC9C10] John Watters The University of Alabama Office of Information Technology 205-348-3992 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hanset, Philippe C Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:24 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless University of Tennessee Knoxville entered into such an agreement. Their interest was to cover the Stadium. It's done, and it seems to work well. There are many providers of such service, and UTK used a competitive bidding. Two things that I can remember from that agreement: -Once the initial contract is signed (revenue sharing, infrastructure, etc...), it takes also a long time to sign a contract with each carrier that will join the shared infrastructure. -Also, the late Dewitt Latimer was always warning campuses: If carriers are interested in one particular location of your campus (because they can reach other interesting locations from there), make sure to negotiate a complete coverage, don't allow a partial one that is only
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
All, We have an existing agreement with American Tower for our macro-sites but are looking at several companies to provide an in-building solution. I would recommend attending the ACUTA conference coming up in Texas, http://www.acuta.org/wcm/acuta/donna2/phoenix/ws14education.pdf from the last ACUTA conference in Phoenix, and checking out http://www.thedasforum.org/ for DAS information. Douglas Burke Senior Director Network Infrastructure Systems Services E-mail bu...@sandiego.edu -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jerry Bucklaew Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:13 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless On 02/10/2014 11:22 AM, Ray DeJean wrote: All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. We worked a deal where verizon contracts with a third party to build a DAS system on our campus. This system is a multi-vendor system with verizon as the primary vendor. We are currently trying to get ATT on the system as well. We have about 5 buildings on it currently and are doing a couple more this summer. The upside is it is all on verizon's dime. The downside is it is also all on their schedule. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
DAS Wireless
All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.org ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
No, but I would really be interested in your experience if you go through with it. Don Sullivan Network Adminstrator Technology Services 205-726-2111tel:205-726-2111 | office 205-566-1432tel:205-566-1432 | mobile 205-726-2524 | fax dsulli...@samford.edumailto:dsulli...@samford.edu www.samford.eduhttp://www.samford.edu 800 Lakeshore Drive, Birmingham, AL 35229http://maps.google.com/maps?q=800+Lakeshore+Drive,+Birmingham,+AL+35229,+US [Samford University Logo] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ray DeJean Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:23 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.org ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. inline: image001.png
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I second that desire. I think we could see a huge demand for this from both directions (i.e. institutions and carriers) this year, though admittedly, the carriers have much to gain by continuing to simply let our institutional wireless carry the load for their devices. Thanks!--JW Jess Walczak Senior Network Analyst University of St. Thomas 2115 Summit Avenue Saint Paul, MN 55105 On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Sullivan, Don dsulli...@samford.eduwrote: No, but I would really be interested in your experience if you go through with it. *Don Sullivan* *Network Adminstrator* *Technology Services* 205-726-2111 | office 205-566-1432 | mobile 205-726-2524 | fax dsulli...@samford.edu www.samford.edu 800 Lakeshore Drive, Birmingham, AL 35229http://maps.google.com/maps?q=800+Lakeshore+Drive,+Birmingham,+AL+35229,+US [image: Samford University Logo] *From:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Ray DeJean *Sent:* Monday, February 10, 2014 10:23 AM *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.org ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. image001.png
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
With the FCC changes coming on March 1st regarding signal boosters, working with the carriers is now required. We have started getting approached by carriers here too. http://wireless.fcc.gov/signal-boosters/index.html From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jess Walczak Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:50 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless I second that desire. I think we could see a huge demand for this from both directions (i.e. institutions and carriers) this year, though admittedly, the carriers have much to gain by continuing to simply let our institutional wireless carry the load for their devices. Thanks!--JW Jess Walczak Senior Network Analyst University of St. Thomas 2115 Summit Avenue Saint Paul, MN 55105 On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Sullivan, Don dsulli...@samford.edumailto:dsulli...@samford.edu wrote: No, but I would really be interested in your experience if you go through with it. Don Sullivan Network Adminstrator Technology Services 205-726-2111tel:205-726-2111 | office 205-566-1432tel:205-566-1432 | mobile 205-726-2524tel:205-726-2524 | fax dsulli...@samford.edumailto:dsulli...@samford.edu www.samford.eduhttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.samford.eduk=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq87DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=3QuZ%2B2g7AlpTnjRPmPJFPpT3bs%2BpVvdMJRcQmJJLfNA%3D%0As=1a1e45c097ebcf985cfbbd83306515e8bbd0d6298476991c8f39247bc3c1f831 800 Lakeshore Drive, Birmingham, AL 35229https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://maps.google.com/maps?q%3D800%2BLakeshore%2BDrive%2C%2BBirmingham%2C%2BAL%2B35229%2C%2BUSk=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq87DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=3QuZ%2B2g7AlpTnjRPmPJFPpT3bs%2BpVvdMJRcQmJJLfNA%3D%0As=a4eebf0796f1df25cd31d491c7fe3a9cfcf7f741e80e55140d94dd0a513342ec [Samford University Logo] From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ray DeJean Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 10:23 AM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.orghttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://r-a-y.orgk=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq87DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=3QuZ%2B2g7AlpTnjRPmPJFPpT3bs%2BpVvdMJRcQmJJLfNA%3D%0As=e6fc1597396165cd521edaeb1e0128ce8db382697be73e00fd5c833dbb7d8770 ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.educause.edu/groups/k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq87DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=3QuZ%2B2g7AlpTnjRPmPJFPpT3bs%2BpVvdMJRcQmJJLfNA%3D%0As=71fd5ef442582d0ec22dc1a40d60362fd3472a5bcf25bb25c7d379826ee47ec7. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.educause.edu/groups/k=yYSsEqip9%2FcIjLHUhVwIqA%3D%3D%0Ar=eHsexY0U6WY24UhDK4eLQbvXOPzMySRoCq87DX3WV5M%3D%0Am=3QuZ%2B2g7AlpTnjRPmPJFPpT3bs%2BpVvdMJRcQmJJLfNA%3D%0As=71fd5ef442582d0ec22dc1a40d60362fd3472a5bcf25bb25c7d379826ee47ec7. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. inline: image001.png
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
University of Tennessee Knoxville entered into such an agreement. Their interest was to cover the Stadium. It's done, and it seems to work well. There are many providers of such service, and UTK used a competitive bidding. Two things that I can remember from that agreement: -Once the initial contract is signed (revenue sharing, infrastructure, etc...), it takes also a long time to sign a contract with each carrier that will join the shared infrastructure. -Also, the late Dewitt Latimer was always warning campuses: If carriers are interested in one particular location of your campus (because they can reach other interesting locations from there), make sure to negotiate a complete coverage, don't allow a partial one that is only in the interest of the carrier! Be ready for many back and forth between the two legal department! Philippe Hanset www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Ray DeJean r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu wrote: All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.orghttp://r-a-y.org/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
Did they only do DAS in your stadium? Or, did they also do 802.11 there and/or other places? We have a DAS system in our stadium that ATT and Verizon jointly funded. It seems to be doing fairly well. They share a rather small room for their head-end stuff. It's interesting to see the differences between the equipment used by these two carriers. -jcw [cid:image002.jpg@01CF267E.819F9DD0] John Watters The University of Alabama Office of Information Technology 205-348-3992 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Hanset, Philippe C Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:24 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless University of Tennessee Knoxville entered into such an agreement. Their interest was to cover the Stadium. It's done, and it seems to work well. There are many providers of such service, and UTK used a competitive bidding. Two things that I can remember from that agreement: -Once the initial contract is signed (revenue sharing, infrastructure, etc...), it takes also a long time to sign a contract with each carrier that will join the shared infrastructure. -Also, the late Dewitt Latimer was always warning campuses: If carriers are interested in one particular location of your campus (because they can reach other interesting locations from there), make sure to negotiate a complete coverage, don't allow a partial one that is only in the interest of the carrier! Be ready for many back and forth between the two legal department! Philippe Hanset www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Ray DeJean r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu wrote: All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.orghttp://r-a-y.org/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. inline: image002.jpg
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Only a carrier neutral DAS in the stadium (~105,000 seats). On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Watters, John john.watt...@ua.edumailto:john.watt...@ua.edu wrote: Did they only do DAS in your stadium? Or, did they also do 802.11 there and/or other places? We have a DAS system in our stadium that ATT and Verizon jointly funded. It seems to be doing fairly well. They share a rather small room for their head-end stuff. It’s interesting to see the differences between the equipment used by these two carriers. -jcw image002.jpg John Watters The University of Alabama Office of Information Technology 205-348-3992 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:l...@listserv.educause.edu] On Behalf Of Hanset, Philippe C Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 4:24 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless University of Tennessee Knoxville entered into such an agreement. Their interest was to cover the Stadium. It's done, and it seems to work well. There are many providers of such service, and UTK used a competitive bidding. Two things that I can remember from that agreement: -Once the initial contract is signed (revenue sharing, infrastructure, etc...), it takes also a long time to sign a contract with each carrier that will join the shared infrastructure. -Also, the late Dewitt Latimer was always warning campuses: If carriers are interested in one particular location of your campus (because they can reach other interesting locations from there), make sure to negotiate a complete coverage, don't allow a partial one that is only in the interest of the carrier! Be ready for many back and forth between the two legal department! Philippe Hanset www.eduroam.ushttp://www.eduroam.us/ On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Ray DeJean r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu wrote: All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edumailto:r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.orghttp://r-a-y.org/ ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] DAS Wireless
So how does this work? Do they install antenna that connect to your LAN like WiFi APs do or do their devices connect to your WiFi to back haul to their network? On Feb 10, 2014 11:22 AM, Ray DeJean r...@selu.edu wrote: All, We've been approached by wireless company to install a DAS (distributed antenna system) throughout our campus. They would then market the system to local carriers, which would increase their coverage (we have pretty poor ATT service on campus). There would be revenue sharing and they've offered to assist in expanding our 802.11 coverage as well. Just wondering if anyone else has entered into a similar agreement with a wireless company, and how it's working out for you. thanks, Ray -- Ray DeJean Systems Engineer Southeastern Louisiana University email: r...@selu.edu http://r-a-y.org ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
