Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Learning Catalytics App
On May 28, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edu wrote: Good point Bruce. We have been supporting IPv6 on our network since 2008, so for us that is the standard question for everything. I'd be surprised if they support it. We'll see. -Hector 2008 is also when we enabled IPv6 on our whole network. The more people that ask vendors about IPv6 the better. Usually what gets the vendors attention is the question if they ever plan to sell any products to the US government. Often they are not aware that the US government agencies require IPv6 support in products. -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Curtis, Bruce Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Learning Catalytics App On May 27, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edu wrote: I was approached by one of our faculty to let me know that they are considering switching from their current classroom clickers technology (student response systems) to a web application called learning catalytics (https://learningcatalytics.com/). If you haven't heard about it, please look into it because sooner or later you'll see something similar. The advantage of this application is that students can use their own WiFi-enabled devices, instead of clickers. But the obvious question is will this work on our current wireless environment?. And the answer is always, depends. For us, we are currently undergoing a redesign on a number of classrooms that we have identified as in need for High Density wireless. But these things take time, and money. Anyway, my question is, do you support a similar application on your wireless network? The biggest concern for us is that the nature of the application is to potentially cause users to transmit data at the same time. There may be a lot of transmissions at once but for multiple choice responses the amount of bandwidth is likely quite small. We have a trial in a couple of weeks and at that point we will look closely into exactly how the application works and how much data it transmits. If you've played with something similar, I'd love to hear from you. I wish these vendors supported IPv6. The one's I've seen only support IPv4 and need to talk to a server on the Internet. We have had to NAT our wireless and were concerned that rooms full of students actively clicking (vs their devices checking email every 10 minutes) could require us to increase the IPv4 numbers in our NAT pools. I'd suggest asking the vendor during your trial if they support IPv6. Thanks, Hector Rios Louisiana State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found athttp://www.educause.edu/groups/. --- Bruce Curtis bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu Certified NetAnalyst II701-231-8527 North Dakota State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. --- Bruce Curtis bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu Certified NetAnalyst II701-231-8527 North Dakota State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Learning Catalytics App
Good point Bruce. We have been supporting IPv6 on our network since 2008, so for us that is the standard question for everything. I'd be surprised if they support it. We'll see. -Hector -Original Message- From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Curtis, Bruce Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 5:29 PM To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Learning Catalytics App On May 27, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edu wrote: I was approached by one of our faculty to let me know that they are considering switching from their current classroom clickers technology (student response systems) to a web application called learning catalytics (https://learningcatalytics.com/). If you haven't heard about it, please look into it because sooner or later you'll see something similar. The advantage of this application is that students can use their own WiFi-enabled devices, instead of clickers. But the obvious question is will this work on our current wireless environment?. And the answer is always, depends. For us, we are currently undergoing a redesign on a number of classrooms that we have identified as in need for High Density wireless. But these things take time, and money. Anyway, my question is, do you support a similar application on your wireless network? The biggest concern for us is that the nature of the application is to potentially cause users to transmit data at the same time. There may be a lot of transmissions at once but for multiple choice responses the amount of bandwidth is likely quite small. We have a trial in a couple of weeks and at that point we will look closely into exactly how the application works and how much data it transmits. If you've played with something similar, I'd love to hear from you. I wish these vendors supported IPv6. The one's I've seen only support IPv4 and need to talk to a server on the Internet. We have had to NAT our wireless and were concerned that rooms full of students actively clicking (vs their devices checking email every 10 minutes) could require us to increase the IPv4 numbers in our NAT pools. I'd suggest asking the vendor during your trial if they support IPv6. Thanks, Hector Rios Louisiana State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found athttp://www.educause.edu/groups/. --- Bruce Curtis bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu Certified NetAnalyst II701-231-8527 North Dakota State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/. ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Learning Catalytics App
On May 27, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edu wrote: I was approached by one of our faculty to let me know that they are considering switching from their current “classroom clickers” technology (student response systems) to a web application called “learning catalytics” (https://learningcatalytics.com/). If you haven’t heard about it, please look into it because sooner or later you’ll see something similar. The advantage of this application is that students can use their own WiFi-enabled devices, instead of clickers. But the obvious question is “will this work on our current wireless environment?”. And the answer is always, depends. For us, we are currently undergoing a redesign on a number of classrooms that we have identified as in need for “High Density” wireless. But these things take time, and money. Anyway, my question is, do you support a similar application on your wireless network? The biggest concern for us is that the nature of the application is to potentially cause users to transmit data at the same time. There may be a lot of transmissions at once but for multiple choice responses the amount of bandwidth is likely quite small. We have a trial in a couple of weeks and at that point we will look closely into exactly how the application works and how much data it transmits. If you’ve played with something similar, I’d love to hear from you. I wish these vendors supported IPv6. The one’s I’ve seen only support IPv4 and need to talk to a server on the Internet. We have had to NAT our wireless and were concerned that rooms full of students actively clicking (vs their devices checking email every 10 minutes) could require us to increase the IPv4 numbers in our NAT pools. I’d suggest asking the vendor during your trial if they support IPv6. Thanks, Hector Rios Louisiana State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found athttp://www.educause.edu/groups/. --- Bruce Curtis bruce.cur...@ndsu.edu Certified NetAnalyst II701-231-8527 North Dakota State University ** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
