RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

2011-12-08 Thread Colleen Szymanik
We saw similar issues.  User table entries had usernames associated with our 
DNS servers.  We did a great deal of debugging with traces, Aruba TAC and other 
customer discussions.  We have validuser ACL entries setup to prevent all this. 
 It seems that occasionally devices can echo packets and inject into the user 
table.  Without protections such as validuser, it could cause connectivity 
issues depending on the role these entries receive.  The cleanest thing we've 
seen done is to define variables with all your validuser entries as a white 
list and everything else should be denied.  

Colleen Szymanik
Sr. Network Engineer
ISC Networking  Telecommunications 
University of Pennsylvania

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To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

Jeff -

Besides the only affects Win7 comment, this sounds like it could be an Aruba 
validuser ACL issue.  If you've modified that ACL from the default of allow 
all IP addresses, it would block all but the specific allowed addresses.  The 
symptoms are user gets a valid IP address from DHCP, then all their traffic it 
blocked because their IP is not in the validuser ACL.  I get bit by that 
problem every time I add a subnet can forget to add it to the list of valid 
networks in our validuser ACL.  Just a thought...

- Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
  Emory University
  University Technology Services
  404.727.0226
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Jeff Kell [jeff-k...@utc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:36 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

Having a strange issue with our wireless today... wondered if it rings any 
bells...
seems to just be affecting Win7...

Clients associate with access points fine, but shows limited internet 
connectivity.

Mouse-over wireless icon and it shows unidentified network (same in network 
and sharing center); although list of SSIDs shows the same expected SSID as 
Connected.

Client RADIUS works fine (verified controller and radius server), dropped on 
production role.

DHCP transaction is normal, request received and ACKed.

Wireless router shows MAC address in expected vlan, and ARP entry shows 
expected IP address with the MAC.

ipconfig /all shows correct IP, mask, gateway, DNS, and DHCP servers.  No 
stray IPv6 or tunnel adapters.

route print shows all expected correct entries for wireless.  No stray IPv6 
(other than loopback and link-local).  Default points to default gateway IP.

arp -a does *NOT* show an entry for the default gateway, and client is unable 
to ping the default gateway.

I'm baffled :)

Jeff

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

2011-12-08 Thread Jeff Kell
Our validuser isn't customized (other than denying 169.254).  We do not do a 
lot of
filtering, but were setup to suppress broadcast/multicast between wireless 
clients (as
you can probably tell, I'm not the Aruba detail configuration wizard).

The final packet captures that helped identify the real issue were only seeing
broadcasts from the router, or broadcasts from the local client (ARPing the 
router
gateway address).  It appears that the broadcast traffic that should have been 
echoed
out to the wired side simply stopped. 

Jeff

On 12/8/2011 2:57 PM, Colleen Szymanik wrote:
 We saw similar issues.  User table entries had usernames associated with our 
 DNS servers.  We did a great deal of debugging with traces, Aruba TAC and 
 other customer discussions.  We have validuser ACL entries setup to prevent 
 all this.  It seems that occasionally devices can echo packets and inject 
 into the user table.  Without protections such as validuser, it could cause 
 connectivity issues depending on the role these entries receive.  The 
 cleanest thing we've seen done is to define variables with all your validuser 
 entries as a white list and everything else should be denied.  

 Colleen Szymanik
 Sr. Network Engineer
 ISC Networking  Telecommunications 
 University of Pennsylvania

 -Original Message-
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Brooks, Stan
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:45 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

 Jeff -

 Besides the only affects Win7 comment, this sounds like it could be an 
 Aruba validuser ACL issue.  If you've modified that ACL from the default of 
 allow all IP addresses, it would block all but the specific allowed 
 addresses.  The symptoms are user gets a valid IP address from DHCP, then all 
 their traffic it blocked because their IP is not in the validuser ACL.  I get 
 bit by that problem every time I add a subnet can forget to add it to the 
 list of valid networks in our validuser ACL.  Just a thought...

 - Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
   Emory University
   University Technology Services
   404.727.0226
 AIM/Y!/Twitter: WLANstan
MSN: wlans...@hotmail.com
 GoogleTalk: wlans...@gmail.com

 
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Jeff Kell 
 [jeff-k...@utc.edu]
 Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:36 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

 Having a strange issue with our wireless today... wondered if it rings any 
 bells...
 seems to just be affecting Win7...

 Clients associate with access points fine, but shows limited internet 
 connectivity.

 Mouse-over wireless icon and it shows unidentified network (same in network 
 and sharing center); although list of SSIDs shows the same expected SSID as 
 Connected.

 Client RADIUS works fine (verified controller and radius server), dropped on 
 production role.

 DHCP transaction is normal, request received and ACKed.

 Wireless router shows MAC address in expected vlan, and ARP entry shows 
 expected IP address with the MAC.

 ipconfig /all shows correct IP, mask, gateway, DNS, and DHCP servers.  No 
 stray IPv6 or tunnel adapters.

 route print shows all expected correct entries for wireless.  No stray IPv6 
 (other than loopback and link-local).  Default points to default gateway IP.

 arp -a does *NOT* show an entry for the default gateway, and client is 
 unable to ping the default gateway.

 I'm baffled :)

 Jeff

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

2011-12-07 Thread Harry Rauch
We have seen this issue lately as well, but we use Extreme wireless, 
Cisco Home wireless in the repair lab, and Ruckus.


We went through the ideas of viruses, bots, worms, etc. This has 
occurred on two of our student's laptops. Exact same indications that 
you describe. We came to the conclusion that the ethernet controller had 
failed since the hardline indicated the same thing. We could put a USB 
wireless adapter on and successfully connect.


Weird. This has only shown up on Win7 laptops.


Harry Rauch Sr. Network Analyst Eckerd College 4200 - 54th Ave S St. 
Petersburg, FL 33711


On 12/7/11 2:36 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:

Having a strange issue with our wireless today... wondered if it rings any 
bells...
seems to just be affecting Win7...

Clients associate with access points fine, but shows limited internet 
connectivity.

Mouse-over wireless icon and it shows unidentified network (same in network 
and
sharing center); although list of SSIDs shows the same expected SSID as 
Connected.

Client RADIUS works fine (verified controller and radius server), dropped on 
production
role.

DHCP transaction is normal, request received and ACKed.

Wireless router shows MAC address in expected vlan, and ARP entry shows 
expected IP
address with the MAC.

ipconfig /all shows correct IP, mask, gateway, DNS, and DHCP servers.  No 
stray IPv6
or tunnel adapters.

route print shows all expected correct entries for wireless.  No stray IPv6 
(other
than loopback and link-local).  Default points to default gateway IP.

arp -a does *NOT* show an entry for the default gateway, and client is unable 
to
ping the default gateway.

I'm baffled :)

Jeff

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

2011-12-07 Thread Ryan Holland
Client's ARP request obviously reaches its default-gateway, but the ARP 
response from the default-gateway is seemingly not reaching your client. Do a 
packet-capture on the client to confirm continuous ARP requests for default 
gateway with no responses. Then, mirror the port on the Aruba controller and 
see if the ARP response from the default gateway at least makes it that far.

With those two data points, you should be able to continue tracing the path to 
determine where it is dropped.

==
Ryan Holland
Network Engineer, Wireless
Office of the Chief Information Officer
The Ohio State University
614-292-9906   holland@osu.edu

Submit a Kudos to an OCIO employee!

On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:

 Having a strange issue with our wireless today... wondered if it rings any 
 bells... 
 seems to just be affecting Win7...
 
 Clients associate with access points fine, but shows limited internet 
 connectivity.
 
 Mouse-over wireless icon and it shows unidentified network (same in network 
 and
 sharing center); although list of SSIDs shows the same expected SSID as 
 Connected.
 
 Client RADIUS works fine (verified controller and radius server), dropped on 
 production
 role.
 
 DHCP transaction is normal, request received and ACKed.
 
 Wireless router shows MAC address in expected vlan, and ARP entry shows 
 expected IP
 address with the MAC.
 
 ipconfig /all shows correct IP, mask, gateway, DNS, and DHCP servers.  No 
 stray IPv6
 or tunnel adapters.
 
 route print shows all expected correct entries for wireless.  No stray IPv6 
 (other
 than loopback and link-local).  Default points to default gateway IP.
 
 arp -a does *NOT* show an entry for the default gateway, and client is 
 unable to
 ping the default gateway.
 
 I'm baffled :)
 
 Jeff
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

2011-12-07 Thread Kade Cole
I just ran into a very similar problem and debugged it with Aruba support. 
Please check your user-table for the IP address of your server.
(Aruba) #show user-table | include ip-address

If you see an entry in the user-table check to see what role it is assigned. My 
SMTP server kept showing up and was being put into a role that would now allow 
SMTP communication. DOH! The fix is to add the ip address of the server to the 
validuser acl.

configure terminal
ip access-list session validuser
host ip_address_of_server any any deny position 1
write memory  

This will modify the validuser acl and tell it not to add the IP address of 
your server to the user-table. 
Let me know if this fixes your problem also.

Kade

On 7 Dec 2011, at 2:18 PM, Ryan Holland wrote:

 Client's ARP request obviously reaches its default-gateway, but the ARP 
 response from the default-gateway is seemingly not reaching your client. Do a 
 packet-capture on the client to confirm continuous ARP requests for default 
 gateway with no responses. Then, mirror the port on the Aruba controller and 
 see if the ARP response from the default gateway at least makes it that far.
 
 With those two data points, you should be able to continue tracing the path 
 to determine where it is dropped.
 
 ==
 Ryan Holland
 Network Engineer, Wireless
 Office of the Chief Information Officer
 The Ohio State University
 614-292-9906   holland@osu.edu
 
 Submit a Kudos to an OCIO employee!
 
 On Dec 7, 2011, at 2:36 PM, Jeff Kell wrote:
 
 Having a strange issue with our wireless today... wondered if it rings any 
 bells... 
 seems to just be affecting Win7...
 
 Clients associate with access points fine, but shows limited internet 
 connectivity.
 
 Mouse-over wireless icon and it shows unidentified network (same in 
 network and
 sharing center); although list of SSIDs shows the same expected SSID as 
 Connected.
 
 Client RADIUS works fine (verified controller and radius server), dropped on 
 production
 role.
 
 DHCP transaction is normal, request received and ACKed.
 
 Wireless router shows MAC address in expected vlan, and ARP entry shows 
 expected IP
 address with the MAC.
 
 ipconfig /all shows correct IP, mask, gateway, DNS, and DHCP servers.  No 
 stray IPv6
 or tunnel adapters.
 
 route print shows all expected correct entries for wireless.  No stray 
 IPv6 (other
 than loopback and link-local).  Default points to default gateway IP.
 
 arp -a does *NOT* show an entry for the default gateway, and client is 
 unable to
 ping the default gateway.
 
 I'm baffled :)
 
 Jeff
 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

2011-12-07 Thread Bruce Hudson
 
That sounds like a firewall issue. Have you checked what role your users
are being put into and what access it allows? We had problems early in our
roll-out with users being dropped into a logon role, which is designed to
give access only to the web portal service. 
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ITS, Networks and Systems   |
Dalhousie University|
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada| (902) 494-3405

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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

2011-12-07 Thread Brooks, Stan
Jeff -

Besides the only affects Win7 comment, this sounds like it could be an Aruba 
validuser ACL issue.  If you've modified that ACL from the default of allow 
all IP addresses, it would block all but the specific allowed addresses.  The 
symptoms are user gets a valid IP address from DHCP, then all their traffic it 
blocked because their IP is not in the validuser ACL.  I get bit by that 
problem every time I add a subnet can forget to add it to the list of valid 
networks in our validuser ACL.  Just a thought...

- Stan Brooks - CWNA/CWSP
  Emory University
  University Technology Services
  404.727.0226
AIM/Y!/Twitter: WLANstan
   MSN: wlans...@hotmail.com
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From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] on behalf of Jeff Kell [jeff-k...@utc.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 2:36 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Odd issue with Aruba wireless...

Having a strange issue with our wireless today... wondered if it rings any 
bells...
seems to just be affecting Win7...

Clients associate with access points fine, but shows limited internet 
connectivity.

Mouse-over wireless icon and it shows unidentified network (same in network 
and
sharing center); although list of SSIDs shows the same expected SSID as 
Connected.

Client RADIUS works fine (verified controller and radius server), dropped on 
production
role.

DHCP transaction is normal, request received and ACKed.

Wireless router shows MAC address in expected vlan, and ARP entry shows 
expected IP
address with the MAC.

ipconfig /all shows correct IP, mask, gateway, DNS, and DHCP servers.  No 
stray IPv6
or tunnel adapters.

route print shows all expected correct entries for wireless.  No stray IPv6 
(other
than loopback and link-local).  Default points to default gateway IP.

arp -a does *NOT* show an entry for the default gateway, and client is unable 
to
ping the default gateway.

I'm baffled :)

Jeff

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