RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

2015-01-15 Thread Deshong, Kenneth
Sorry to bring up an old thread but I have some current questions as I'm tasked 
with deploying wireless to cover some outdoor space. I've been considering the 
1532i as well but after looking at the Cisco data sheet I noticed it is the 
only Outdoor model that doesn't support Client Link or Clean air. Does anyone 
have a negative view on this model not supporting those features?  Possibly 
that is why the price point is so sweet. 


Ken DeShong
Network Engineer
USF Health Information Systems
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

Hector,

I am curious to know how you are connecting the 1530's to power.  We are right 
now all 155X's for the outdoor AP's but I was looking at the 1530's because 
their price point was better.  The one thing I was concerned with though was 
that they are DC power input vs AC power input.  For many locations we have the 
AP mounted on a building so this is ok but we have several in a mesh that 
connect to our parking lot light poles and I don't know the feasibility of 
putting a AD/DC converter in the power pole.  Unless I missed it I also didn't 
see a outdoor rated converter Cisco sells for these. So I am curious to know 
your experience with powering them.

Nick Ciesinski
University of Wisconsin - Whitewater

From: Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edumailto:hr...@lsu.edu
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

We have used 1520s in the past and they have worked well. We recently installed 
a couple of 1530s with external antennas and their coverage is really good. The 
plus with the 1530s is their form-factor. The 1520s and the predecessors where 
tanks. The 1530s are considerably smaller. Depending on your requirements, the 
1530s with internal antennas are very convenient, but you are not going to have 
as good of a coverage as the ones with the external antennas.

Finally, consider additional costs for your outdoor deployment. A couple of 
years ago we deployed a good number of outdoor mesh radios and the expense for 
the power requirements was significant. Other costs to bear in mind are 
maintenance. If you hang these radios on poles, know that you will be needing a 
lift to get to those radios when they have issues. For us, our contractor 
charges a minimum of $500 to get us a bucket truck. And if you live in the 
southern states, just pray your radios don't have issues during the summer. 
Otherwise, bring lots of towels and prepare to sweat.

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

I would like to ask what everyone is doing for their outdoor areas with respect 
to WiFi.  We have several very nice venues that would benefit from 
connectivity.  Some are relatively close to networked buildings and some are 
fairly remote from such structures. We are a Cisco shop and are thinking about 
installing some AP1532's but due diligence begs me to pick other brains for 
alternative and maybe better ideas.

Tom Stooksberry
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

2014-12-05 Thread Christopher Michael Allison
Nick,
We are looking at doing this at out campus and the way we have decided to 
get power to them is a Small POE switch in the light pole. And now we are 
running into the problem where our physical plant is only running 120V to the 
pole so now we have to look into how we are going to power the switch.

CHRISTOPHER ALLISON
Network Engineer I

Information Technology
Mail Code 4622
625 Wham Drive
Carbondale, Illinois 62901

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Sent: Thursday, December 4, 2014 5:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

Hector,

I am curious to know how you are connecting the 1530's to power.  We are right 
now all 155X's for the outdoor AP's but I was looking at the 1530's because 
their price point was better.  The one thing I was concerned with though was 
that they are DC power input vs AC power input.  For many locations we have the 
AP mounted on a building so this is ok but we have several in a mesh that 
connect to our parking lot light poles and I don't know the feasibility of 
putting a AD/DC converter in the power pole.  Unless I missed it I also didn't 
see a outdoor rated converter Cisco sells for these. So I am curious to know 
your experience with powering them.

Nick Ciesinski
University of Wisconsin - Whitewater

From: Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edumailto:hr...@lsu.edu
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

We have used 1520s in the past and they have worked well. We recently installed 
a couple of 1530s with external antennas and their coverage is really good. The 
plus with the 1530s is their form-factor. The 1520s and the predecessors where 
tanks. The 1530s are considerably smaller. Depending on your requirements, the 
1530s with internal antennas are very convenient, but you are not going to have 
as good of a coverage as the ones with the external antennas.

Finally, consider additional costs for your outdoor deployment. A couple of 
years ago we deployed a good number of outdoor mesh radios and the expense for 
the power requirements was significant. Other costs to bear in mind are 
maintenance. If you hang these radios on poles, know that you will be needing a 
lift to get to those radios when they have issues. For us, our contractor 
charges a minimum of $500 to get us a bucket truck. And if you live in the 
southern states, just pray your radios don’t have issues during the summer. 
Otherwise, bring lots of towels and prepare to sweat.

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

I would like to ask what everyone is doing for their outdoor areas with respect 
to WiFi.  We have several very nice venues that would benefit from 
connectivity.  Some are relatively close to networked buildings and some are 
fairly remote from such structures. We are a Cisco shop and are thinking about 
installing some AP1532’s but due diligence begs me to pick other brains for 
alternative and maybe better ideas.

Tom Stooksberry
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

2014-12-05 Thread Hector J Rios
The 1530s we have installed are in a single building. They were mounted 
directly on the exterior walls. So power was not an issue as we used PoE . We 
have not mounted any 1530s on poles yet.

Have you looked at the AP adapter? I think this is what you need if you were to 
mount it to a pole.  

http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/access_point/1530/power/guide/1530pwradpt.html


-Hector 

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Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 5:08 PM
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

Hector,

I am curious to know how you are connecting the 1530's to power.  We are right 
now all 155X's for the outdoor AP's but I was looking at the 1530's because 
their price point was better.  The one thing I was concerned with though was 
that they are DC power input vs AC power input.  For many locations we have the 
AP mounted on a building so this is ok but we have several in a mesh that 
connect to our parking lot light poles and I don't know the feasibility of 
putting a AD/DC converter in the power pole.  Unless I missed it I also didn't 
see a outdoor rated converter Cisco sells for these. So I am curious to know 
your experience with powering them.

Nick Ciesinski
University of Wisconsin - Whitewater

From: Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edumailto:hr...@lsu.edu
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:23 PM
To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

We have used 1520s in the past and they have worked well. We recently installed 
a couple of 1530s with external antennas and their coverage is really good. The 
plus with the 1530s is their form-factor. The 1520s and the predecessors where 
tanks. The 1530s are considerably smaller. Depending on your requirements, the 
1530s with internal antennas are very convenient, but you are not going to have 
as good of a coverage as the ones with the external antennas.

Finally, consider additional costs for your outdoor deployment. A couple of 
years ago we deployed a good number of outdoor mesh radios and the expense for 
the power requirements was significant. Other costs to bear in mind are 
maintenance. If you hang these radios on poles, know that you will be needing a 
lift to get to those radios when they have issues. For us, our contractor 
charges a minimum of $500 to get us a bucket truck. And if you live in the 
southern states, just pray your radios don't have issues during the summer. 
Otherwise, bring lots of towels and prepare to sweat.

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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To: 
WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

I would like to ask what everyone is doing for their outdoor areas with respect 
to WiFi.  We have several very nice venues that would benefit from 
connectivity.  Some are relatively close to networked buildings and some are 
fairly remote from such structures. We are a Cisco shop and are thinking about 
installing some AP1532's but due diligence begs me to pick other brains for 
alternative and maybe better ideas.

Tom Stooksberry
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

2014-12-05 Thread Matt O'Brien
We have been using the power adapter listed above for our 1532's on pole
mounts with success. Essentially we place the power adapter in a NEMA box
and mount the radio to the outside of the NEMA box. The hard part for us is
all of our light poles run on photo cells so the existing power at the
light is not available during the day. We have to pull a separate power
feed to each pole.

Matt

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edu wrote:

 The 1530s we have installed are in a single building. They were mounted
 directly on the exterior walls. So power was not an issue as we used PoE .
 We have not mounted any 1530s on poles yet.

 Have you looked at the AP adapter? I think this is what you need if you
 were to mount it to a pole.


 http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/access_point/1530/power/guide/1530pwradpt.html


 -Hector

 -Original Message-
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ciesinski, Nick
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 5:08 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

 Hector,

 I am curious to know how you are connecting the 1530's to power.  We are
 right now all 155X's for the outdoor AP's but I was looking at the 1530's
 because their price point was better.  The one thing I was concerned with
 though was that they are DC power input vs AC power input.  For many
 locations we have the AP mounted on a building so this is ok but we have
 several in a mesh that connect to our parking lot light poles and I don't
 know the feasibility of putting a AD/DC converter in the power pole.
 Unless I missed it I also didn't see a outdoor rated converter Cisco sells
 for these. So I am curious to know your experience with powering them.

 Nick Ciesinski
 University of Wisconsin - Whitewater

 From: Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edumailto:hr...@lsu.edu
 Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:23 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

 We have used 1520s in the past and they have worked well. We recently
 installed a couple of 1530s with external antennas and their coverage is
 really good. The plus with the 1530s is their form-factor. The 1520s and
 the predecessors where tanks. The 1530s are considerably smaller. Depending
 on your requirements, the 1530s with internal antennas are very convenient,
 but you are not going to have as good of a coverage as the ones with the
 external antennas.

 Finally, consider additional costs for your outdoor deployment. A couple
 of years ago we deployed a good number of outdoor mesh radios and the
 expense for the power requirements was significant. Other costs to bear in
 mind are maintenance. If you hang these radios on poles, know that you will
 be needing a lift to get to those radios when they have issues. For us, our
 contractor charges a minimum of $500 to get us a bucket truck. And if you
 live in the southern states, just pray your radios don't have issues during
 the summer. Otherwise, bring lots of towels and prepare to sweat.

 Hector Rios
 Louisiana State University

 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Stooksberry, Tom
 Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:47 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

 I would like to ask what everyone is doing for their outdoor areas with
 respect to WiFi.  We have several very nice venues that would benefit from
 connectivity.  Some are relatively close to networked buildings and some
 are fairly remote from such structures. We are a Cisco shop and are
 thinking about installing some AP1532's but due diligence begs me to pick
 other brains for alternative and maybe better ideas.

 Tom Stooksberry
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

2014-12-05 Thread Mike King
While Matt O'Brien touched on it.. I just wanted to point this out.

The Cisco outdoor AP line has always had a streetlight tap, for the 1530
series, it's AIR-PWR-ST-LT-R3P=

You remove the photocell off the streetlight, this plugs into the photocell
socket, and then the photocell is plugged into the socket on the adapter.

It's pretty neat.  The one's I put up 8 years ago are still up there
(1510's) and cranking away.  Yes, the older ones were TANKS.

In my area, when I went onto a public street, we were required to get an
electrician who had a certain certification to access the power poles.  I
forget what the cert was, but the power company required it.  (We worked
out an agreement where we put AP's on the electric companies Streetlights,
and paid them a set amount of rent per month)

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Matt O'Brien mattobr...@boisestate.edu
wrote:

 We have been using the power adapter listed above for our 1532's on pole
 mounts with success. Essentially we place the power adapter in a NEMA box
 and mount the radio to the outside of the NEMA box. The hard part for us is
 all of our light poles run on photo cells so the existing power at the
 light is not available during the day. We have to pull a separate power
 feed to each pole.

 Matt

 On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edu wrote:

 The 1530s we have installed are in a single building. They were mounted
 directly on the exterior walls. So power was not an issue as we used PoE .
 We have not mounted any 1530s on poles yet.

 Have you looked at the AP adapter? I think this is what you need if you
 were to mount it to a pole.


 http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/access_point/1530/power/guide/1530pwradpt.html


 -Hector

 -Original Message-
 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Ciesinski, Nick
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 5:08 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

 Hector,

 I am curious to know how you are connecting the 1530's to power.  We are
 right now all 155X's for the outdoor AP's but I was looking at the 1530's
 because their price point was better.  The one thing I was concerned with
 though was that they are DC power input vs AC power input.  For many
 locations we have the AP mounted on a building so this is ok but we have
 several in a mesh that connect to our parking lot light poles and I don't
 know the feasibility of putting a AD/DC converter in the power pole.
 Unless I missed it I also didn't see a outdoor rated converter Cisco sells
 for these. So I am curious to know your experience with powering them.

 Nick Ciesinski
 University of Wisconsin - Whitewater

 From: Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edumailto:hr...@lsu.edu
 Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:23 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

 We have used 1520s in the past and they have worked well. We recently
 installed a couple of 1530s with external antennas and their coverage is
 really good. The plus with the 1530s is their form-factor. The 1520s and
 the predecessors where tanks. The 1530s are considerably smaller. Depending
 on your requirements, the 1530s with internal antennas are very convenient,
 but you are not going to have as good of a coverage as the ones with the
 external antennas.

 Finally, consider additional costs for your outdoor deployment. A couple
 of years ago we deployed a good number of outdoor mesh radios and the
 expense for the power requirements was significant. Other costs to bear in
 mind are maintenance. If you hang these radios on poles, know that you will
 be needing a lift to get to those radios when they have issues. For us, our
 contractor charges a minimum of $500 to get us a bucket truck. And if you
 live in the southern states, just pray your radios don't have issues during
 the summer. Otherwise, bring lots of towels and prepare to sweat.

 Hector Rios
 Louisiana State University

 From: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Stooksberry, Tom
 Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:47 PM
 To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDUmailto:
 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

 I would like to ask what everyone is doing for their outdoor areas with
 respect to WiFi.  We have several very nice venues that would benefit from
 connectivity.  Some are relatively close to networked buildings and some
 are fairly remote from such structures. We are a Cisco shop and are
 thinking about installing some AP1532's but due diligence begs me

Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

2014-12-04 Thread Britton Anderson
We've used the 1552E's around our campus with pretty good success. We don't
have 100% coverage outdoors yet, but with mesh they work pretty well.

Only thing I'll mention that I haven't seen mentioned here is pay close
attention to the topography of your campus and make sure the AP is
consistently mounted about 30' above the area you're trying to cover. Also
with the signal power these boxes achieve, consider interference with your
indoor infrastructure as well. Inevitably you'll have to mount at least
some of them on buildings anyway, but something to keep in mind.

We have the exact opposite problems from Hector at LSU though. If something
happens in the dead of winter, it might wait until summer.

--Britton



Britton Anderson blanders...@alaska.edu | Senior Network Communications
Specialist | University of Alaska http://www.alaska.edu/oit | 907.450.8250

On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edu wrote:

  We have used 1520s in the past and they have worked well. We recently
 installed a couple of 1530s with external antennas and their coverage is
 really good. The plus with the 1530s is their form-factor. The 1520s and
 the predecessors where tanks. The 1530s are considerably smaller. Depending
 on your requirements, the 1530s with internal antennas are very convenient,
 but you are not going to have as good of a coverage as the ones with the
 external antennas.



 Finally, consider additional costs for your outdoor deployment. A couple
 of years ago we deployed a good number of outdoor mesh radios and the
 expense for the power requirements was significant. Other costs to bear in
 mind are maintenance. If you hang these radios on poles, know that you will
 be needing a lift to get to those radios when they have issues. For us, our
 contractor charges a minimum of $500 to get us a bucket truck. And if you
 live in the southern states, just pray your radios don’t have issues during
 the summer. Otherwise, bring lots of towels and prepare to sweat.



 Hector Rios

 Louisiana State University



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 WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Stooksberry, Tom
 *Sent:* Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:47 PM
 *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
 *Subject:* [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues



 I would like to ask what everyone is doing for their outdoor areas with
 respect to WiFi.  We have several very nice venues that would benefit from
 connectivity.  Some are relatively close to networked buildings and some
 are fairly remote from such structures. We are a Cisco shop and are
 thinking about installing some AP1532’s but due diligence begs me to pick
 other brains for alternative and maybe better ideas.



 Tom Stooksberry

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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

2014-12-04 Thread Ciesinski, Nick
Hector,

I am curious to know how you are connecting the 1530's to power.  We are right 
now all 155X's for the outdoor AP's but I was looking at the 1530's because 
their price point was better.  The one thing I was concerned with though was 
that they are DC power input vs AC power input.  For many locations we have the 
AP mounted on a building so this is ok but we have several in a mesh that 
connect to our parking lot light poles and I don't know the feasibility of 
putting a AD/DC converter in the power pole.  Unless I missed it I also didn't 
see a outdoor rated converter Cisco sells for these. So I am curious to know 
your experience with powering them.

Nick Ciesinski
University of Wisconsin - Whitewater

From: Hector J Rios hr...@lsu.edumailto:hr...@lsu.edu
Reply-To: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
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Date: Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

We have used 1520s in the past and they have worked well. We recently installed 
a couple of 1530s with external antennas and their coverage is really good. The 
plus with the 1530s is their form-factor. The 1520s and the predecessors where 
tanks. The 1530s are considerably smaller. Depending on your requirements, the 
1530s with internal antennas are very convenient, but you are not going to have 
as good of a coverage as the ones with the external antennas.

Finally, consider additional costs for your outdoor deployment. A couple of 
years ago we deployed a good number of outdoor mesh radios and the expense for 
the power requirements was significant. Other costs to bear in mind are 
maintenance. If you hang these radios on poles, know that you will be needing a 
lift to get to those radios when they have issues. For us, our contractor 
charges a minimum of $500 to get us a bucket truck. And if you live in the 
southern states, just pray your radios don’t have issues during the summer. 
Otherwise, bring lots of towels and prepare to sweat.

Hector Rios
Louisiana State University

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[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] On Behalf Of Stooksberry, Tom
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 1:47 PM
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Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

I would like to ask what everyone is doing for their outdoor areas with respect 
to WiFi.  We have several very nice venues that would benefit from 
connectivity.  Some are relatively close to networked buildings and some are 
fairly remote from such structures. We are a Cisco shop and are thinking about 
installing some AP1532’s but due diligence begs me to pick other brains for 
alternative and maybe better ideas.

Tom Stooksberry
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Outside venues

2014-12-03 Thread Harry Rauch
We are not a Cisco shop but a Ruckus shop. Some of our remote outside 
areas require a signal strong enough to do streaming video. We have had 
great success since Ruckus meshes automatically and reliably. Our usable 
range without directional antennas is about 1000'; more on direct 
line-of-sight. We shoot for about 10MB signal size as the end result.


Harry Rauch Sr. Network Analyst Eckerd College 4200 - 54th Ave S St. 
Petersburg, FL 33711

On 12/3/14, 2:47 PM, Stooksberry, Tom wrote:


I would like to ask what everyone is doing for their outdoor areas 
with respect to WiFi.  We have several very nice venues that would 
benefit from connectivity.  Some are relatively close to networked 
buildings and some are fairly remote from such structures. We are a 
Cisco shop and are thinking about installing some AP1532's but due 
diligence begs me to pick other brains for alternative and maybe 
better ideas.


Tom Stooksberry

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