Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Julian Y Koh]

On Fri Mar 25 2016 06:40:48 CDT, Lee H Badman  wrote:
> 
> It's pretty sad these questions even have to be asked, isn't it? The code 
> culture has become one where bugs are guaranteed and if we get mediocrity out 
> if the vendor, we celebrate it. 

I don't know if I've quite lost hope to that point.  :)

Our SEs with our various vendors are pretty good at working with us when 
planning an upgrade to do at least a high level examination of bugs to see if 
they are things that might impact our environment.  Some vendors also have 
designations for how "safe" they think a given release might be for general 
deployments.  i.e., unless you don't need the specific bug fix or feature 
that's in version X.Y right now, it's safer to hold off until X.Y.Z or until 
X.Y has been out in field for a while when it will be designated as "General 
Availability" or something similar.  


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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Scott Fortin]

After playing musical-APs to remove all incompatible 1130/1240 models we
upgraded our 5508s off of code version 7.6.120.0 (deferred release) to fix
a reboot issue.  Since all our APs were compatible with 8.2.100.0 (early
release) we decided to try it out.

The upgrade went well - all our APs came back up and we could see RAIDUS
sessions repopulate in ISE. Our team doing a simultaneous ERP upgrade
complained they could not load our MySMCC student portal.  I assumed it was
related to the ERP upgrade but tested it out.  Sure enough, MySMCC would
not load on the wireless.  Further testing showed that no webpages would
load, except for Facebook, on the wireless.  Testing on the same IP network
on the wired side showed no issues.  Wireless clients could see HTML page
headers change from Untitled to MySMCC - Student Course Schedule, etc but
the page would remain blank.  I could see TCP/UDP sessions to websites open
on the firewall to the Internet.  Keep in mind Facebook is working in a web
browser, through the app, and through Messenger this whole time.
Aggravating.

We called Cisco TAC and they checked, our ACLs on the WLC & ISE, did packet
captures, etc.  After a few hours, with our maintenance window closing,
they recommend downgrading to a maintenance release, 8.0.121.0.  Downgrade
works as expected and clients regain full functionality.  No changes were
made except the code version.

8.2.100.0 and later releases bring some great features with them.  We were
fond of the new dashboard on code 8.2.100.0.   We are also looking into
1810w in-room APs but will need to wait until a maintenance release is
issued for 8.2/8.3 code.


*Scott Fortin*
Network Infrastructure Manager
Southern Maine Community College
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu> wrote:

> It's pretty sad these questions even have to be asked, isn't it? The code
> culture has become one where bugs are guaranteed and if we get mediocrity
> out if the vendor, we celebrate it.
>
> Wierd times.
>
> Lee Badman
> Network Architect/Wireless TME
> Syracuse University
> 315.443.3003
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* Mathieu Sturm [mathieu.st...@hogent.be]
> *Received:* Friday, 25 Mar 2016, 3:32
> *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU [
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
> *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508
>
> Thank you for all the information guys. I know the question has been asked
> before. Just wanted to know because of the release of the new wave 2 ap’s
> which we’d like to test and still have a good working environment. Right
> now we’re on 7.6.130  which is pretty stable but is a couple of years old
> already.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Mathieu
>
>
>
> *Van:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv [mailto:
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *Namens *Jeffrey D. Sessler
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 maart 2016 15:35
> *Aan:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508
>
>
>
> For the new wave-2 AP’s e.g. 2800/3800, you’ll need 8.2 MR1 which is do
> toward the end of April. The 2800/3800 first customer ship (FCS) being
> mid-May.
>
>
>
> Future:
>
> Mobility express support is in 8.3, due FCS + 3 months
>
> FIPS/CC, Enhanced Location/Fast Locate, and Bridge Mode (Mesh) is 8.3 MR1,
> due FCS + 6 months.
>
>
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> *From: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> on behalf of Mathieu Sturm <
> mathieu.st...@hogent.be>
> *Reply-To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Date: *Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 5:19 AM
> *To: *"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" <
> WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>
> *Subject: *[WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508
>
>
>
> What is the preferred/stable release for a Cisco WLC 5508?
>
> I’m planning on updating this summer.
>
>
>
> AP’s 2800,1810 and 3800 series support is required.
>
>
>
> Sturm Mathieu
> Hoofdmedewerker Netwerkbeheer
> ---

RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Lee H Badman]

It's pretty sad these questions even have to be asked, isn't it? The code 
culture has become one where bugs are guaranteed and if we get mediocrity out 
if the vendor, we celebrate it.

Wierd times.

Lee Badman
Network Architect/Wireless TME
Syracuse University
315.443.3003

-Original Message-
From: Mathieu Sturm [mathieu.st...@hogent.be]
Received: Friday, 25 Mar 2016, 3:32
To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU [WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU]
Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

Thank you for all the information guys. I know the question has been asked 
before. Just wanted to know because of the release of the new wave 2 ap's which 
we'd like to test and still have a good working environment. Right now we're on 
7.6.130  which is pretty stable but is a couple of years old already.

Best regards,

Mathieu

Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] Namens Jeffrey D. Sessler
Verzonden: donderdag 24 maart 2016 15:35
Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

For the new wave-2 AP's e.g. 2800/3800, you'll need 8.2 MR1 which is do toward 
the end of April. The 2800/3800 first customer ship (FCS) being mid-May.

Future:
Mobility express support is in 8.3, due FCS + 3 months
FIPS/CC, Enhanced Location/Fast Locate, and Bridge Mode (Mesh) is 8.3 MR1, due 
FCS + 6 months.

Jeff

From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Mathieu Sturm 
<mathieu.st...@hogent.be<mailto:mathieu.st...@hogent.be>>
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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 5:19 AM
To: 
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<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

What is the preferred/stable release for a Cisco WLC 5508?
I'm planning on updating this summer.

AP's 2800,1810 and 3800 series support is required.

Sturm Mathieu
Hoofdmedewerker Netwerkbeheer
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RE: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Mathieu Sturm]

Thank you for all the information guys. I know the question has been asked 
before. Just wanted to know because of the release of the new wave 2 ap’s which 
we’d like to test and still have a good working environment. Right now we’re on 
7.6.130  which is pretty stable but is a couple of years old already.

Best regards,

Mathieu

Van: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv 
[mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] Namens Jeffrey D. Sessler
Verzonden: donderdag 24 maart 2016 15:35
Aan: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU
Onderwerp: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

For the new wave-2 AP’s e.g. 2800/3800, you’ll need 8.2 MR1 which is do toward 
the end of April. The 2800/3800 first customer ship (FCS) being mid-May.

Future:
Mobility express support is in 8.3, due FCS + 3 months
FIPS/CC, Enhanced Location/Fast Locate, and Bridge Mode (Mesh) is 8.3 MR1, due 
FCS + 6 months.

Jeff

From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> 
on behalf of Mathieu Sturm 
<mathieu.st...@hogent.be<mailto:mathieu.st...@hogent.be>>
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"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 5:19 AM
To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu<mailto:wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu>" 
<WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU<mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

What is the preferred/stable release for a Cisco WLC 5508?
I’m planning on updating this summer.

AP’s 2800,1810 and 3800 series support is required.

Sturm Mathieu
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Samuel Clements]

To follow up on Jakes comment, you're asking for a 'stable release' that
supports 'bleeding edge hardware'. If you're expecting to run the latest
and greatest APs, you should expect some code churn for the first 6 months
or so post-FCS to allow for show stopping bugs. If you look at the feature
navigator, it spells it out in much nicer terms:
http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/CFN/jsp/reldesignation.jsp

But in general, you're either running 'super-stable stale release' or
'feature release'. That doesn't mean that there is no such thing as a
stable release with new features, you just have to be aware of the risks
with any manufacturers new hardware and the software required to go along
(read: this isn't a Cisco problem, but an industry issue with everyone
Apple/Intel/Aruba/Ruckus/Broadcom/QCA/etc).
  -Sam

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Jake Snyder  wrote:

> When 2800/3800 start shipping, there will be a release to support them.
> My guess would be an 8.3 release.
>
> Thanks
> Jake Snyder
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 6:19 AM, Mathieu Sturm  > wrote:
>
> What is the preferred/stable release for a Cisco WLC 5508?
>
> I’m planning on updating this summer.
>
>
>
> AP’s 2800,1810 and 3800 series support is required.
>
>
>
> Sturm Mathieu
> Hoofdmedewerker Netwerkbeheer
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Jeffrey D. Sessler]

For the new wave-2 AP’s e.g. 2800/3800, you’ll need 8.2 MR1 which is do toward 
the end of April. The 2800/3800 first customer ship (FCS) being mid-May.

Future:
Mobility express support is in 8.3, due FCS + 3 months
FIPS/CC, Enhanced Location/Fast Locate, and Bridge Mode (Mesh) is 8.3 MR1, due 
FCS + 6 months.

Jeff

From: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
> 
on behalf of Mathieu Sturm 
>
Reply-To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
>
Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 5:19 AM
To: 
"wireless-lan@listserv.educause.edu" 
>
Subject: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

What is the preferred/stable release for a Cisco WLC 5508?
I’m planning on updating this summer.

AP’s 2800,1810 and 3800 series support is required.

Sturm Mathieu
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Jake Snyder]

When 2800/3800 start shipping, there will be a release to support them.  My 
guess would be an 8.3 release.

Thanks
Jake Snyder


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 24, 2016, at 6:19 AM, Mathieu Sturm  wrote:
> 
> What is the preferred/stable release for a Cisco WLC 5508?
> I’m planning on updating this summer.
>  
> AP’s 2800,1810 and 3800 series support is required.
>  
> Sturm Mathieu
> Hoofdmedewerker Netwerkbeheer
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> 
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Kevin McCormick]

We are currently running the 8.0 MR3 Beta without any issues.

Version 8.0.122.44.

There is a newer version out, but we have not upgraded.

I suspect 8.0 MR3 will be out in near future.

For more information about the beta, go here.

https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12755726/80mr3-beta-availability

Kevin McCormick
Western Illinois University

On 3/24/2016 7:19 AM, Mathieu Sturm wrote:


What is the preferred/stable release for a Cisco WLC 5508?

I’m planning on updating this summer.

AP’s 2800,1810 and 3800 series support is required.

Sturm Mathieu
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Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] Cisco WLC5508

[Pete Hoffswell]

We have been happily running  8.0.121.0 after asking a similar question a
couple months ago.  You could check the archives for that discussion.

-
Pete Hoffswell - Network Manager
pete.hoffsw...@davenport.edu
http://www.davenport.edu


On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:19 AM, Mathieu Sturm 
wrote:

> What is the preferred/stable release for a Cisco WLC 5508?
>
> I’m planning on updating this summer.
>
>
>
> AP’s 2800,1810 and 3800 series support is required.
>
>
>
> Sturm Mathieu
> Hoofdmedewerker Netwerkbeheer
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