Re: [Wireshark-dev] How to support wireshark w/o having an OpenID

2014-08-10 Thread Ed Beroset



-Original Message-
>From: Kevin Cox 
>Sent: Aug 9, 2014 4:05 PM
>To: Developer support list for Wireshark 
>Subject: Re: [Wireshark-dev] How to support wireshark w/o having an OpenID
>
>On 09/08/14 12:51, Toralf Förster wrote:
>> My question is rather, whether it is mandatory to register at one of
>> the big IT players or if an email address would be sufficient. 
>You don't need to register at "one of the big IT players", I think that
>Wireshark gerrit is set up to accept any OpenID provider.  However I
>believe you are asking if you can sign up with just an email and I'm
>pretty sure the answer is no because gerrit doesn't do its own
>authentication.
>
>Basically the story is—as currently set up—you need an OpenID but who
>your provider is doesn't matter, you can use a public service or set
>your own up but it has to be OpenID.
>
>Sorry if that doesn't suit you, maybe you could start a discussion about
>alternate authentication methods however gerrit doesn't support much.[0]
>
>[0]
>https://gerrit.googlecode.com/svn/documentation/2.1/config-gerrit.html#auth

I'm not sure it matters sufficiently that it could or should cause course 
alteration, but as one who has contributed modestly to Wireshark before the 
move to gerrit, but not since then, I'd have to say that for me, the 
setup/registration/configuration/etc. has definitely impeded further 
contributions.  The new process is something that I haven't really gotten 
around to trying to figure out.  I'm not saying it's the wrong choice, but it's 
just that much more effort to even *submit* a patch, that I suspect that a lot 
of would-be contributors might find the threshold too high.  Maybe updating 
documentation could help.  Right now, if you go to the main "develop" page 
https://www.wireshark.org/develop.html and click on the link under "code review 
site" you get to https://code.wireshark.org/review/#/q/status:open,n,z which 
offers no clue at all as to how one should actually register.  I'm sure I could 
figure it out, and I'm sure many have.  It's just that I'd really just like to 
be able to contribute patches without having to do quite so much exploration.  
Maybe I'm just lazy, but it might be nice if the barrier to useful contribution 
were lowered just a bit.

Ed
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Warning users on XP *before* uninstalling the old version?

2014-08-10 Thread Pascal Quantin
2014-08-10 16:56 GMT+02:00 Maynard, Chris :

> Other possibilities?
>
>
>
> 1.Disable the auto-update feature if Wireshark is running on Windows
> XP.
>
> 2.Leave the auto-update enabled, but have it only check against the
> latest 1.10.x version (if possible)?
>
> 3.Since Wireshark 1.12.x still works on Windows XP, possibly change
> the message from “This version may not work on Windows XP …” to something
> else, such as, “This version is unsupported on Windows XP.  If you
> experience problems, please report them and revert to an earlier version of
> Wireshark instead.” … where “earlier version” is not necessarily the latest
> 1.10.x release since we know 1.12.0 still works.  We could also refer them
> to http://wiki.wireshark.org/Development/LifeCycle?  That way they pretty
> much know that they’re on their own.  Once a future version of Wireshark is
> known NOT to work on Windows XP, then handle it just like 2000, NT, …?
>
>
>
> - Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireshark-dev-boun...@wireshark.org [mailto:
> wireshark-dev-boun...@wireshark.org] *On Behalf Of *Graham Bloice
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 10, 2014 7:10 AM
> *To:* Developer support list for Wireshark
> *Subject:* Re: [Wireshark-dev] Warning users on XP *before* uninstalling
> the old version?
>
>
>
> On 10 August 2014 02:55, Evan Huus  wrote:
>
> Per this comment, seems like it would be a good idea:
>
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2014/07/wireshark-1-12-officially-released/comment-page-1/#comment-3385
>
> Don't know much about the Windows installer though, this may not be
> possible?
>
>
>
> From the release notes:
>
>
> 2.4. Platform Support
>
> Support for Windows XP has been deprecated. We will make an effort to
> support it for as long as possible but our ability to do so depends on
> upstream packages and other factors beyond our control.
>
>
>
> As users obviously don't read the release notes! I think we should maybe
> get the installer to check if the host OS is XP, and then offer the warning
> before doing anything else.
>
> --
>
> Graham Bloice
>

Hi,

in https://code.wireshark.org/review/#/c/3533/, I moved the Windows version
check prior to the uninstaller.

Pascal.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Warning users on XP *before* uninstalling the old version?

2014-08-10 Thread Maynard, Chris
Other possibilities?


1.Disable the auto-update feature if Wireshark is running on Windows XP.

2.Leave the auto-update enabled, but have it only check against the latest 
1.10.x version (if possible)?

3.Since Wireshark 1.12.x still works on Windows XP, possibly change the 
message from “This version may not work on Windows XP …” to something else, 
such as, “This version is unsupported on Windows XP.  If you experience 
problems, please report them and revert to an earlier version of Wireshark 
instead.” … where “earlier version” is not necessarily the latest 1.10.x 
release since we know 1.12.0 still works.  We could also refer them to 
http://wiki.wireshark.org/Development/LifeCycle?  That way they pretty much 
know that they’re on their own.  Once a future version of Wireshark is known 
NOT to work on Windows XP, then handle it just like 2000, NT, …?

- Chris


From: wireshark-dev-boun...@wireshark.org 
[mailto:wireshark-dev-boun...@wireshark.org] On Behalf Of Graham Bloice
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 7:10 AM
To: Developer support list for Wireshark
Subject: Re: [Wireshark-dev] Warning users on XP *before* uninstalling the old 
version?

On 10 August 2014 02:55, Evan Huus 
mailto:eapa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Per this comment, seems like it would be a good idea:
https://blog.wireshark.org/2014/07/wireshark-1-12-officially-released/comment-page-1/#comment-3385

Don't know much about the Windows installer though, this may not be possible?

From the release notes:

2.4. Platform Support

Support for Windows XP has been deprecated. We will make an effort to support 
it for as long as possible but our ability to do so depends on upstream 
packages and other factors beyond our control.



As users obviously don't read the release notes! I think we should maybe get 
the installer to check if the host OS is XP, and then offer the warning before 
doing anything else.
--
Graham Bloice
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Buildbot Man Page Generation

2014-08-10 Thread Evan Huus


> On Aug 10, 2014, at 7:06, Bálint Réczey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Evan,
> 
> 2014-08-10 4:41 GMT+02:00 Evan Huus :
>> http://buildbot.wireshark.org/trunk/builders/Clang%20Code%20Analysis/builds/2911/steps/check-abi/logs/stdio
>> 
>> I took a quick look at the recent check-abi buildbot failure, which
>> appears to be manpage related:
>> 
>> wireshark.pod around line 3525: Non-ASCII character seen before
>> =encoding in 'KovEř'. Assuming UTF-8
>> POD document had syntax errors at /usr/bin/pod2man line 71.
>> 
>> Which is curious, because wireshark.pod.template *does* have an
>> =encoding line...
>> 
>> Also of note is that we appear to be passing --title="The Wireshark
>> Network Analyzer 1.8.2" to the generator on trunk, which is just
>> wrong.
>> 
>> Anybody know what's going on?
> This is the lts-1.8.2 branch but the builds are shown on trunk's buildbot.
> I updated the LTS branches before releasing the update to Debian in a
> hope that the patched could be fuzz-tested by the buildbots, but I
> think LTS branches are not fuzz-tested.
> I have fixed a few build problems along the security fixes, but did
> not have time to fix this one, too.

Ah ok. I wonder why lts branch builds are showing up on the master Buildbot...?

> Cheers,
> Balint
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Warning users on XP *before* uninstalling the old version?

2014-08-10 Thread Graham Bloice
On 10 August 2014 02:55, Evan Huus  wrote:

> Per this comment, seems like it would be a good idea:
>
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2014/07/wireshark-1-12-officially-released/comment-page-1/#comment-3385
>
> Don't know much about the Windows installer though, this may not be
> possible?
>

>From the release notes:

2.4. Platform Support

Support for Windows XP has been deprecated. We will make an effort to
support it for as long as possible but our ability to do so depends on
upstream packages and other factors beyond our control.


As users obviously don't read the release notes! I think we should maybe
get the installer to check if the host OS is XP, and then offer the warning
before doing anything else.
-- 
Graham Bloice
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Buildbot Man Page Generation

2014-08-10 Thread Bálint Réczey
Hi Evan,

2014-08-10 4:41 GMT+02:00 Evan Huus :
> http://buildbot.wireshark.org/trunk/builders/Clang%20Code%20Analysis/builds/2911/steps/check-abi/logs/stdio
>
> I took a quick look at the recent check-abi buildbot failure, which
> appears to be manpage related:
>
> wireshark.pod around line 3525: Non-ASCII character seen before
> =encoding in 'KovEř'. Assuming UTF-8
> POD document had syntax errors at /usr/bin/pod2man line 71.
>
> Which is curious, because wireshark.pod.template *does* have an
> =encoding line...
>
> Also of note is that we appear to be passing --title="The Wireshark
> Network Analyzer 1.8.2" to the generator on trunk, which is just
> wrong.
>
> Anybody know what's going on?
This is the lts-1.8.2 branch but the builds are shown on trunk's buildbot.
I updated the LTS branches before releasing the update to Debian in a
hope that the patched could be fuzz-tested by the buildbots, but I
think LTS branches are not fuzz-tested.
I have fixed a few build problems along the security fixes, but did
not have time to fix this one, too.

Cheers,
Balint
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