Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
Quoting Ed Beroset Evan Huus wrote: The *proper* (for certain values of that word) way to decide this issue is really to do a usability study, however that is expensive/time-consuming so unless Riverbed wants to make that investment it isn't likely to happen with any degree of rigour. They found the same confusion about the Record icon and noted that the Play icon had 85% recognition, but Record only 42% and noted that the Record icon was "Often though of as 'stop', particularly if coloured red. Connotations of traffic lights, 'no entry' sign or full stop." without the intention to add confusion to the discussion, I like to suggest this: 1.) use a classical green/blue 'start' (play) button as that's probably the 'commonly accepted' symbol to start an action, in this case the capture action, regardless of a possible confusion with a planned playback feature, which does not sound like a key feature of Wireshark and thus should not get it's own button in the main GUI. 2.) Use a totally different icon to indicate the CAPTURE/RECORD action, like: a camera 3.) Use a funny icon, like a 'wire shark' with wide open jaws, eating up the packets ;-) Regards Kurt ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
On 9 April 2013 14:54, Ed Beroset wrote: > Evan Huus wrote: > >The *proper* (for certain values of that word) way to decide this issue is > >really to do a usability study, however that is expensive/time-consuming > so > >unless Riverbed wants to make that investment it isn't likely to happen > >with any degree of rigour. > > There was a study on that very thing many years ago when the object of > study was icons for VCRs. (Anybody remember them?) > http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=515hD47OVB0C&lpg=PA552&pg=PA553#v=onepage&q&f=false > > They found the same confusion about the Record icon and noted that the > Play icon had 85% recognition, but Record only 42% and noted that the > Record icon was "Often though of as 'stop', particularly if coloured red. > Connotations of traffic lights, 'no entry' sign or full stop." > > For that reason, I suggest we either use a different color (green? blue?) > or (ab)use the Play icon and that we make the "stop" icon red if it isn't > already by now (I'm still using SVN Rev 48628 at the moment). > > Interestingly the bad recognition factor for "record" seems to have been largely the fault of the UK (my Mum?) and without them included the recognition for the symbol is over 51%. Still not great though. I was reminded last night though, when "training" my spouse about the remote for the new PVR, it's not so much what's on the buttons (icons or text) it's the position that folks remember. ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
Evan Huus wrote: >The *proper* (for certain values of that word) way to decide this issue is >really to do a usability study, however that is expensive/time-consuming so >unless Riverbed wants to make that investment it isn't likely to happen >with any degree of rigour. There was a study on that very thing many years ago when the object of study was icons for VCRs. (Anybody remember them?) http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=515hD47OVB0C&lpg=PA552&pg=PA553#v=onepage&q&f=false They found the same confusion about the Record icon and noted that the Play icon had 85% recognition, but Record only 42% and noted that the Record icon was "Often though of as 'stop', particularly if coloured red. Connotations of traffic lights, 'no entry' sign or full stop." For that reason, I suggest we either use a different color (green? blue?) or (ab)use the Play icon and that we make the "stop" icon red if it isn't already by now (I'm still using SVN Rev 48628 at the moment). Ed ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Jasper Bongertz wrote: >>> Either way, we aren't going to have any hard data for the expected >>> release of 1.10 unless that gets bumped back a *lot*. The best we can do is >>> probably a quick poll, so I've created >> just that: >>> >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1VFyNGmHtbdl827XziWGIHX5KfoxuF4MIaigzQAJph00/viewform >>> >>> Hopefully the results will be illuminating. > >> Maybe the poll should be sent to the users list as well? > > I could forward the poll to the quite large Wireshark group in the german > XING community (sort of a european LinkedIn site), but I think the poll > isn't explaining itself enough for anyone who hasn't read the discussions in > this mailing list. Maybe we can have an additional intro text on the poll > page to make sure people unterstand what the poll is for? I've added a quick explanatory intro text. Please let me know if it's still unclear. Feel free to forward to any Wireshark users you know, the bigger our sample size (presumably) the better. Evan ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
Title: Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons? >> Either way, we aren't going to have any hard data for the expected release of 1.10 unless that gets bumped back a *lot*. The best we can do is probably a quick poll, so I've created >> just that: >> >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1VFyNGmHtbdl827XziWGIHX5KfoxuF4MIaigzQAJph00/viewform >> >> Hopefully the results will be illuminating. > Maybe the poll should be sent to the users list as well? I could forward the poll to the quite large Wireshark group in the german XING community (sort of a european LinkedIn site), but I think the poll isn't explaining itself enough for anyone who hasn't read the discussions in this mailing list. Maybe we can have an additional intro text on the poll page to make sure people unterstand what the poll is for? Cheers, Jasper jas...@packet-foo.com ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
On 9 April 2013 04:29, Evan Huus wrote: > The *proper* (for certain values of that word) way to decide this issue is > really to do a usability study, however that is expensive/time-consuming so > unless Riverbed wants to make that investment it isn't likely to happen > with any degree of rigour. > > (though if there is sufficient interest it may be worth taking the > opportunity at this year's Sharkfest to put together something simple and > informal) > > Either way, we aren't going to have any hard data for the expected release > of 1.10 unless that gets bumped back a *lot*. The best we can do is > probably a quick poll, so I've created just that: > > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1VFyNGmHtbdl827XziWGIHX5KfoxuF4MIaigzQAJph00/viewform > > Hopefully the results will be illuminating. > > Maybe the poll should be sent to the users list as well? ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
The *proper* (for certain values of that word) way to decide this issue is really to do a usability study, however that is expensive/time-consuming so unless Riverbed wants to make that investment it isn't likely to happen with any degree of rigour. (though if there is sufficient interest it may be worth taking the opportunity at this year's Sharkfest to put together something simple and informal) Either way, we aren't going to have any hard data for the expected release of 1.10 unless that gets bumped back a *lot*. The best we can do is probably a quick poll, so I've created just that: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1VFyNGmHtbdl827XziWGIHX5KfoxuF4MIaigzQAJph00/viewform Hopefully the results will be illuminating. Evan On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Laura Chappell wrote: > Ok... I just gotta jump in here. I’m probably causing Gerald major > headaches on the icon issue… > > ** ** > > IMHO, I think the “media control” icon look is going to cause confusion. > Specifically the red “record” button to start capture. > > That red button doesn’t say “start” to me… it says “stop.” [image: > cid:image003.png@01CE345E.A666FAE0] (Or perhaps I’m interpreting it > incorrectly and it is actually Hal [image: > cid:image004.jpg@01CE345E.A666FAE0]… grin.) > > ** ** > > What about simple green/red with media control widgets inside? [image: > cid:image005.jpg@01CE345E.A666FAE0] > > ** ** > > I understand that someday we may have playback functions, but I hope that > would be buried in a right-click function or somewhere else - not on the > main toolbar. Can't imagine it's a #1 requested feature. > > ** ** > > I know you folks have put in a lot of thought on the new icons and getting > rid of the NIC card image is a great idea... but I wonder if going the > direction of media player icons (and the red “record” button in particular) > is going to cause confusion. > > ** ** > > Laura > > ** ** > > -Original Message- > > From: Gerald Combs [mailto:ger...@wireshark.org ] ** > ** > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:13 AM > > To: Developer support list for Wireshark > > Subject: Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons? > > ** ** > > On 4/7/13 5:12 PM, Guy Harris wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ger...@wireshark.org wrote: > > > > > >> http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=4877** > ** > > >> 6 > > >>** ** > > >> User: gerald > > >> Date: 2013/04/07 10:40 AM > > >>** ** > > >> Log: > > >> Change the "stop capture" icon to a Great Big Huge Square to try to *** > * > > >> make it more obvious (particularly at 16x16 pixels) that it and the *** > * > > >> "start capture" icons work like media controls. > > > > > > OK, the filling in those buttons is a bit bigger than, say, some of > > > the images in > > > > > > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=start+recording+button&hl=en&client=sa** > ** > > > fari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=EAliUZDkKOWciQLDroHYDA&** > ** > > > ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 > > >** ** > > > or in > > > > > > > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=stop+recording+button&hl=en&client=saf** > ** > > > ari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=yAliUdCvOqX9iwLK0YC4Cw&v** > ** > > > ed=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 > > > > > > although it's not bigger than the one in > > > > > > > > > http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.goatella.ispe** > ** > > > ak/iSpeak-Button > > > > > > The smaller center looks OK to me - is this a small-button (16x16) issue? > > > ** ** > > A GIS for "record button" returns a variety of styles, mostly round and > red with varying border sizes: > > ** ** > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=record+button&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=jkF&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LudiUax3x_uLArLTgNgM&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1033&bih=732 > > > ** ** > > I'm not sure which is more correct. We could look at the built-in audio > recorder on each major OS we support but that doesn't
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
Ok... I just gotta jump in here. I'm probably causing Gerald major headaches on the icon issue. IMHO, I think the "media control" icon look is going to cause confusion. Specifically the red "record" button to start capture. That red button doesn't say "start" to me. it says "stop." cid:image003.png@01CE345E.A666FAE0 (Or perhaps I'm interpreting it incorrectly and it is actually Hal cid:image004.jpg@01CE345E.A666FAE0. grin.) What about simple green/red with media control widgets inside? cid:image005.jpg@01CE345E.A666FAE0 I understand that someday we may have playback functions, but I hope that would be buried in a right-click function or somewhere else - not on the main toolbar. Can't imagine it's a #1 requested feature. I know you folks have put in a lot of thought on the new icons and getting rid of the NIC card image is a great idea... but I wonder if going the direction of media player icons (and the red "record" button in particular) is going to cause confusion. Laura -Original Message- From: Gerald Combs [mailto:ger...@wireshark.org] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:13 AM To: Developer support list for Wireshark Subject: Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons? On 4/7/13 5:12 PM, Guy Harris wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ger...@wireshark.org wrote: > >> http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/viewvc.cgi?view=rev <http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=4877> &revision=4877 >> 6 >> >> User: gerald >> Date: 2013/04/07 10:40 AM >> >> Log: >> Change the "stop capture" icon to a Great Big Huge Square to try to >> make it more obvious (particularly at 16x16 pixels) that it and the >> "start capture" icons work like media controls. > > OK, the filling in those buttons is a bit bigger than, say, some of > the images in > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=start+recording+button <https://www.google.com/search?q=start+recording+button&hl=en&client=sa> &hl=en&client=sa > fari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=EAliUZDkKOWciQLDroHYDA& > ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 > > or in > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=stop+recording+button <https://www.google.com/search?q=stop+recording+button&hl=en&client=saf> &hl=en&client=saf > ari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=yAliUdCvOqX9iwLK0YC4Cw&v > ed=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 > > although it's not bigger than the one in > > > http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.goatella.ispe > ak/iSpeak-Button > > The smaller center looks OK to me - is this a small-button (16x16) issue? A GIS for "record button" returns a variety of styles, mostly round and red with varying border sizes: https://www.google.com/search?q=record+button <https://www.google.com/search?q=record+button&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=jkF &rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LudiUax3x _uLArLTgNgM&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1033&bih=732> &hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=jkF&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u &source=univ&sa=X&ei=LudiUax3x_uLArLTgNgM&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1033&bih=732 I'm not sure which is more correct. We could look at the built-in audio recorder on each major OS we support but that doesn't help much. Sound Recorder on Windows has less border and more filling, while QuickTime Player has more border and less filling. GNOME's is all filling and no border. > Also, the stop button in the first image in the latter search: > > http://sweetclipart.com/pause-play-and-stop-buttons-996 > > is all red - should ours be? Or, alternatively, should the square be red, like: > > > http://www.telax.com/blog/2013/03/feature-friday-stop-recording-button > > (the start button being redder than the stop button might be a little bit odd - a red circle in a start button seems to be the standard, but maybe stop would be helped by a red indication as well). The "stop capture" button is gray with a darker gray shadow. Unfortunately this completely fails the Awful Monitor Test. I'll try a different color as Evan suggested. If you squint just right the current layout has a sort of logic to it. "start capture" and "stop capture" are respectively round and square. They behave and look like the "record" and "stop" buttons on audio equipment. "S
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
On 4/7/13 6:35 PM, Evan Huus wrote: > FWIW: > - Audacity uses a yellow square for stop. > - Photoshop's macro recorder uses a blue square for stop. > > Though honestly, I'm pretty happy with our new icon set as-is. Perhaps > changing the fill colour of the stop button (yellow, blue, other?) > would be sufficient. I changed the fill color to one of the blues from our new application icon in r48790. > Or, if we only ever display one or the other (so the capture button > magically becomes the stop button when capturing) then red makes > sense, although I'm not sure what the usability of that concept is. ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
On 4/7/13 5:12 PM, Guy Harris wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ger...@wireshark.org wrote: > >> http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=48776 >> >> User: gerald >> Date: 2013/04/07 10:40 AM >> >> Log: >> Change the "stop capture" icon to a Great Big Huge Square to try to make >> it more obvious (particularly at 16x16 pixels) that it and the "start >> capture" icons work like media controls. > > OK, the filling in those buttons is a bit bigger than, say, some of the > images in > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=start+recording+button&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=EAliUZDkKOWciQLDroHYDA&ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 > > or in > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=stop+recording+button&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=yAliUdCvOqX9iwLK0YC4Cw&ved=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 > > although it's not bigger than the one in > > > http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.goatella.ispeak/iSpeak-Button > > The smaller center looks OK to me - is this a small-button (16x16) issue? A GIS for "record button" returns a variety of styles, mostly round and red with varying border sizes: https://www.google.com/search?q=record+button&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=jkF&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=LudiUax3x_uLArLTgNgM&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1033&bih=732 I'm not sure which is more correct. We could look at the built-in audio recorder on each major OS we support but that doesn't help much. Sound Recorder on Windows has less border and more filling, while QuickTime Player has more border and less filling. GNOME's is all filling and no border. > Also, the stop button in the first image in the latter search: > > http://sweetclipart.com/pause-play-and-stop-buttons-996 > > is all red - should ours be? Or, alternatively, should the square be red, > like: > > http://www.telax.com/blog/2013/03/feature-friday-stop-recording-button > > (the start button being redder than the stop button might be a little bit odd > - a red circle in a start button seems to be the standard, but maybe stop > would be helped by a red indication as well). The "stop capture" button is gray with a darker gray shadow. Unfortunately this completely fails the Awful Monitor Test. I'll try a different color as Evan suggested. If you squint just right the current layout has a sort of logic to it. "start capture" and "stop capture" are respectively round and square. They behave and look like the "record" and "stop" buttons on audio equipment. "Start capture" and "restart capture" are both round and red. If you press either of them you capture packets. "Interface list" and "capture options" are both round and *not* red, i.e. they're associated with the "start capture" button but don't capture any packets. I suppose to be more consistent we should make the capture filter button round and not red as well. ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
P.S. Regardless, the new icons are already a big step up over the old ones :) On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Evan Huus wrote: > FWIW: > - Audacity uses a yellow square for stop. > - Photoshop's macro recorder uses a blue square for stop. > > Though honestly, I'm pretty happy with our new icon set as-is. Perhaps > changing the fill colour of the stop button (yellow, blue, other?) > would be sufficient. > > Or, if we only ever display one or the other (so the capture button > magically becomes the stop button when capturing) then red makes > sense, although I'm not sure what the usability of that concept is. > > Just my two cents, > Evan > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Guy Harris wrote: >> >> On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ger...@wireshark.org wrote: >> >>> http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=48776 >>> >>> User: gerald >>> Date: 2013/04/07 10:40 AM >>> >>> Log: >>> Change the "stop capture" icon to a Great Big Huge Square to try to make >>> it more obvious (particularly at 16x16 pixels) that it and the "start >>> capture" icons work like media controls. >> >> OK, the filling in those buttons is a bit bigger than, say, some of the >> images in >> >> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=start+recording+button&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=EAliUZDkKOWciQLDroHYDA&ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 >> >> or in >> >> >> https://www.google.com/search?q=stop+recording+button&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=yAliUdCvOqX9iwLK0YC4Cw&ved=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 >> >> although it's not bigger than the one in >> >> >> http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.goatella.ispeak/iSpeak-Button >> >> The smaller center looks OK to me - is this a small-button (16x16) issue? >> >> Also, the stop button in the first image in the latter search: >> >> http://sweetclipart.com/pause-play-and-stop-buttons-996 >> >> is all red - should ours be? Or, alternatively, should the square be red, >> like: >> >> >> http://www.telax.com/blog/2013/03/feature-friday-stop-recording-button >> >> (the start button being redder than the stop button might be a little bit >> odd - a red circle in a start button seems to be the standard, but maybe >> stop would be helped by a red indication as well). >> ___ >> Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list >> Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev >> Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev >> mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
FWIW: - Audacity uses a yellow square for stop. - Photoshop's macro recorder uses a blue square for stop. Though honestly, I'm pretty happy with our new icon set as-is. Perhaps changing the fill colour of the stop button (yellow, blue, other?) would be sufficient. Or, if we only ever display one or the other (so the capture button magically becomes the stop button when capturing) then red makes sense, although I'm not sure what the usability of that concept is. Just my two cents, Evan On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Guy Harris wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ger...@wireshark.org wrote: > >> http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=48776 >> >> User: gerald >> Date: 2013/04/07 10:40 AM >> >> Log: >> Change the "stop capture" icon to a Great Big Huge Square to try to make >> it more obvious (particularly at 16x16 pixels) that it and the "start >> capture" icons work like media controls. > > OK, the filling in those buttons is a bit bigger than, say, some of the > images in > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=start+recording+button&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=EAliUZDkKOWciQLDroHYDA&ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 > > or in > > > https://www.google.com/search?q=stop+recording+button&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=yAliUdCvOqX9iwLK0YC4Cw&ved=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 > > although it's not bigger than the one in > > > http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.goatella.ispeak/iSpeak-Button > > The smaller center looks OK to me - is this a small-button (16x16) issue? > > Also, the stop button in the first image in the latter search: > > http://sweetclipart.com/pause-play-and-stop-buttons-996 > > is all red - should ours be? Or, alternatively, should the square be red, > like: > > http://www.telax.com/blog/2013/03/feature-friday-stop-recording-button > > (the start button being redder than the stop button might be a little bit odd > - a red circle in a start button seems to be the standard, but maybe stop > would be helped by a red indication as well). > ___ > Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list > Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev > Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev > mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wireshark-dev] Start and stop capture toolbar buttons?
On Apr 7, 2013, at 10:40 AM, ger...@wireshark.org wrote: > http://anonsvn.wireshark.org/viewvc/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=48776 > > User: gerald > Date: 2013/04/07 10:40 AM > > Log: > Change the "stop capture" icon to a Great Big Huge Square to try to make > it more obvious (particularly at 16x16 pixels) that it and the "start > capture" icons work like media controls. OK, the filling in those buttons is a bit bigger than, say, some of the images in https://www.google.com/search?q=start+recording+button&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=EAliUZDkKOWciQLDroHYDA&ved=0CD8QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 or in https://www.google.com/search?q=stop+recording+button&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=yAliUdCvOqX9iwLK0YC4Cw&ved=0CDMQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=786 although it's not bigger than the one in http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.goatella.ispeak/iSpeak-Button The smaller center looks OK to me - is this a small-button (16x16) issue? Also, the stop button in the first image in the latter search: http://sweetclipart.com/pause-play-and-stop-buttons-996 is all red - should ours be? Or, alternatively, should the square be red, like: http://www.telax.com/blog/2013/03/feature-friday-stop-recording-button (the start button being redder than the stop button might be a little bit odd - a red circle in a start button seems to be the standard, but maybe stop would be helped by a red indication as well). ___ Sent via:Wireshark-dev mailing list Archives:http://www.wireshark.org/lists/wireshark-dev Unsubscribe: https://wireshark.org/mailman/options/wireshark-dev mailto:wireshark-dev-requ...@wireshark.org?subject=unsubscribe
