Re: [Wireshark-dev] Thoughts on the default layout

2013-02-18 Thread Graham Bloice
On 16 February 2013 19:14, Ed Beroset bero...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Evan Huus wrote:

 I've been playing with various layouts for the main dissection
 interface and I've found one that works better (for me) than the
 default. It leaves the packet list on top, but puts the details and
 bytes panes side by side on the bottom (details on the left, bytes on
 the right). This is what you get by selecting the second layout choice
 in the layout preferences.


 I have my own computer set up to use the same preference, but I tend to
 use this on a big laptop screen or big monitor for specific kinds of
 traffic.


  To me this has two main advantages over the existing default:

 - It makes better use of horizontal and vertical space, especially
 since short-and-wide monitors are becoming more and more common.

 - It makes a better conceptual distinction between the multi-packet
 summary and the single-packet details, which are now neatly grouped to
 the top and bottom.

 Thoughts?


 I agree that it's a better default, primarily for the first reason.  I
 would also strongly support changing the default because those who are
 already experienced with Wireshark have probably already chosen their
 preference and those new to Wireshark would probably benefit from a default
 that more closely matches common equipment these days.

 Ed


+1 on changing the default layout to the (current) second choice.  I always
use that format.
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Thoughts on the default layout

2013-02-18 Thread Jaap Keuter
On 02/18/2013 11:27 AM, Graham Bloice wrote:
 On 16 February 2013 19:14, Ed Beroset bero...@mindspring.com
 mailto:bero...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Evan Huus wrote:
 
 I've been playing with various layouts for the main dissection
 interface and I've found one that works better (for me) than the
 default. It leaves the packet list on top, but puts the details and
 bytes panes side by side on the bottom (details on the left, bytes on
 the right). This is what you get by selecting the second layout choice
 in the layout preferences.
 
 
 I have my own computer set up to use the same preference, but I tend to 
 use
 this on a big laptop screen or big monitor for specific kinds of traffic.
 
 
 To me this has two main advantages over the existing default:
 
 - It makes better use of horizontal and vertical space, especially
 since short-and-wide monitors are becoming more and more common.
 
 - It makes a better conceptual distinction between the multi-packet
 summary and the single-packet details, which are now neatly grouped to
 the top and bottom.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 
 I agree that it's a better default, primarily for the first reason.  I 
 would
 also strongly support changing the default because those who are already
 experienced with Wireshark have probably already chosen their preference 
 and
 those new to Wireshark would probably benefit from a default that more
 closely matches common equipment these days.
 
 Ed
 
 
 +1 on changing the default layout to the (current) second choice.  I always 
 use
 that format.
 


Please be aware that a *lot* of text (manuals, wikis, articles, blogs, help
sites, etc, etc) reference the 'higher', 'middle' and 'lower pane'. Changing
that default does make it harder for the new user to use these texts.
On the other hand the advance of 16x9 monitors makes it a suitable choice.

Thanks,
Jaap

PS: using the three pane layout, because I'm lazy, and the various 4x3 monitors
I'm confronted with don't really have the space for layout '2'.

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[Wireshark-dev] Thoughts on the default layout

2013-02-16 Thread Evan Huus
I've been playing with various layouts for the main dissection
interface and I've found one that works better (for me) than the
default. It leaves the packet list on top, but puts the details and
bytes panes side by side on the bottom (details on the left, bytes on
the right). This is what you get by selecting the second layout choice
in the layout preferences.

To me this has two main advantages over the existing default:

- It makes better use of horizontal and vertical space, especially
since short-and-wide monitors are becoming more and more common.

- It makes a better conceptual distinction between the multi-packet
summary and the single-packet details, which are now neatly grouped to
the top and bottom.

Thoughts?
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Re: [Wireshark-dev] Thoughts on the default layout

2013-02-16 Thread Ed Beroset

Evan Huus wrote:

I've been playing with various layouts for the main dissection
interface and I've found one that works better (for me) than the
default. It leaves the packet list on top, but puts the details and
bytes panes side by side on the bottom (details on the left, bytes on
the right). This is what you get by selecting the second layout choice
in the layout preferences.


I have my own computer set up to use the same preference, but I tend to 
use this on a big laptop screen or big monitor for specific kinds of 
traffic.



To me this has two main advantages over the existing default:

- It makes better use of horizontal and vertical space, especially
since short-and-wide monitors are becoming more and more common.

- It makes a better conceptual distinction between the multi-packet
summary and the single-packet details, which are now neatly grouped to
the top and bottom.

Thoughts?


I agree that it's a better default, primarily for the first reason.  I 
would also strongly support changing the default because those who are 
already experienced with Wireshark have probably already chosen their 
preference and those new to Wireshark would probably benefit from a 
default that more closely matches common equipment these days.


Ed
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