Re: Witango-Talk: Please help - Witangod crashing

2003-09-11 Thread isabelle
Hi

i don't use FMP, but mysql, with the same configuration and I have the  
same error ( Caught fatal signal 10 (SIGBUS); thread id =etc...) 4 or 5  
times/by day. I had this error until 15 times/day with the 062 version,  
but since i put the cache on "true" with memory cache, it crashes only  
4 or 5 times/day. I 'am in contact with phil wade for this problem, but  
we don't find why. if anyone has an idea, it's welcome!

isabelle

Le Jeudi, 11 sept 2003, à 01:17 America/Montreal, Roland A. Dumas a  
écrit :

Don't know about that particular error code, but if you're running FMP  
and you've moved some of your apps from T2K, you may have a stray ¥ in  
your taf.

In the old world (including the first betas of witango) when you  
selected as your data source "any filemaker", a symbol would be  
dropped that was from the MacRoman character set - the yen symbol. In  
the current version of witango, that should be a Latin-1 symbol: #

You have to open your taf in a text editor and make those changes.

If you have a stray ¥, it will crash witango server 100% of the time  
when it hits that action.

On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 06:37 PM, Joe Terrasi wrote:

Witangod started crashing on me inexplicably today. Please offer any  
insight.

Mac OSX 10.2.6
AppSvr v. 5.0.1.062
FileMakerPro 6
I get the following error in witangoevents.log:

[  682] 2003-09-10 20:31:52 RUNTIMEFATALCaught fatal signal  
10 (SIGBUS); thread id = 4557536; code: 1; address: 0014ce90; value:  
; errno: 0; status: 0;
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Witango-Talk: Access database problem

2003-09-11 Thread Garth Penglase
Anyone experienced problems with reading and writing to a MEMO field 
in an Access database?
It seems that if the characters are over 1024k it just won't update, 
and if the field is empty it won't read it. I get a precision error 
messages.

I'm using Witango 5 app (win 2k) server, but these are T2k files 
created on a Mac (if I remember rightly they were working Ok when 
they were T3 files (mac) running on the same server, so it may be 
something to do with how the T2k editor handles the ODBC.

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Re: Witango-Talk: Access database problem

2003-09-11 Thread Stefan Gonick
I've never had any trouble with Memo fields in Access.
Why don't you try recreating the database actions from
scratch? That might take care of it.
Stefan

At 11:43 PM 9/11/2003 +1000, you wrote:
Anyone experienced problems with reading and writing to a MEMO field in an 
Access database?
It seems that if the characters are over 1024k it just won't update, and 
if the field is empty it won't read it. I get a precision error messages.

I'm using Witango 5 app (win 2k) server, but these are T2k files created 
on a Mac (if I remember rightly they were working Ok when they were T3 
files (mac) running on the same server, so it may be something to do with 
how the T2k editor handles the ODBC.

cheers
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Re: Witango-Talk: Please help - Witangod crashing

2003-09-11 Thread Joe Terrasi
Thanks to Roland and Isabelle for the input.

Just as a "community update," here's where I am with it:

Phil is helping me with this. There are definitely some goofy things
going on, and he's been very generous with his time (as he's always
been - this guy and this company are great).
The ¥ problem was part of what was going on, but not all of it. That
part is fixed now. Roland is right about that one causing a crash
100% of the time - wow! I sent my batch text editor on a
regular-expression seek-and-destroy mission.
The other part of the problem that I can identify seems (to me) to be
with how DevStudio is writing the datasources block into my tafs.
There seem to be some inconsistencies there that I have sent on to
Phil for examination. In my case, DevStudio has written additional
datasources into the files and numbered them. For instance, what
should (I think) be one entry of a datasource called "homework.fmp5"
becomes a series of entries called "homework.fmp5.1,"
"homework.fmp5.2," etc. I'm not sure, but I don't think this is how
it's supposed to happen.
The DevStudio also won't take things out of the file (I half expect
to hear, "that not a bug, it's a feature"). For example, some of my
tafs refer to old non-existent datasources as deployment sources even
though I reset the datasources in DevStudio and mark "default" or
"same" for deployment. Granted, the XML still says
UseDevelopmentDataSource="TRUE" , but I still would have thought I
could remove an entry
Thanks to all for the ongoing help.

Joe





At 9:31 AM -0400 9/11/03, isabelle wrote:
Hi

i don't use FMP, but mysql, with the same configuration and I have
the same error ( Caught fatal signal 10 (SIGBUS); thread id =etc...)
4 or 5 times/by day. I had this error until 15 times/day with the
062 version, but since i put the cache on "true" with memory cache,
it crashes only 4 or 5 times/day. I 'am in contact with phil wade
for this problem, but we don't find why. if anyone has an idea, it's
welcome!
isabelle

Le Jeudi, 11 sept 2003, à 01:17 America/Montreal, Roland A. Dumas a écrit :

Don't know about that particular error code, but if you're running
FMP and you've moved some of your apps from T2K, you may have a
stray ¥ in your taf.
In the old world (including the first betas of witango) when you
selected as your data source "any filemaker", a symbol would be
dropped that was from the MacRoman character set - the yen symbol.
In the current version of witango, that should be a Latin-1 symbol:
#
You have to open your taf in a text editor and make those changes.

If you have a stray ¥, it will crash witango server 100% of the
time when it hits that action.
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 06:37 PM, Joe Terrasi wrote:

Witangod started crashing on me inexplicably today. Please offer
any insight.
Mac OSX 10.2.6
AppSvr v. 5.0.1.062
FileMakerPro 6
I get the following error in witangoevents.log:

[  682] 2003-09-10 20:31:52 RUNTIMEFATALCaught fatal
signal 10 (SIGBUS); thread id = 4557536; code: 1; address:
0014ce90; value: ; errno: 0; status: 0;
--
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Re: Witango-Talk: Please help - Witangod crashing

2003-09-11 Thread Roland A . Dumas
DevStudio has definitely become quirky on OS X.
I'm finding that things created with builders are the most problematic  
with random inclusion of IF statements, creating html fields with 1  
character allowed, old stuff that won't go away, etc. Very funky.

On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 08:39 AM, Joe Terrasi wrote:

Thanks to Roland and Isabelle for the input.

Just as a "community update," here's where I am with it:

Phil is helping me with this. There are definitely some goofy things
going on, and he's been very generous with his time (as he's always
been - this guy and this company are great).
The ¥ problem was part of what was going on, but not all of it. That
part is fixed now. Roland is right about that one causing a crash
100% of the time - wow! I sent my batch text editor on a
regular-expression seek-and-destroy mission.
The other part of the problem that I can identify seems (to me) to be
with how DevStudio is writing the datasources block into my tafs.
There seem to be some inconsistencies there that I have sent on to
Phil for examination. In my case, DevStudio has written additional
datasources into the files and numbered them. For instance, what
should (I think) be one entry of a datasource called "homework.fmp5"
becomes a series of entries called "homework.fmp5.1,"
"homework.fmp5.2," etc. I'm not sure, but I don't think this is how
it's supposed to happen.
The DevStudio also won't take things out of the file (I half expect
to hear, "that not a bug, it's a feature"). For example, some of my
tafs refer to old non-existent datasources as deployment sources even
though I reset the datasources in DevStudio and mark "default" or
"same" for deployment. Granted, the XML still says
UseDevelopmentDataSource="TRUE" , but I still would have thought I
could remove an entry
Thanks to all for the ongoing help.

Joe





At 9:31 AM -0400 9/11/03, isabelle wrote:
Hi

i don't use FMP, but mysql, with the same configuration and I have
the same error ( Caught fatal signal 10 (SIGBUS); thread id =etc...)
4 or 5 times/by day. I had this error until 15 times/day with the
062 version, but since i put the cache on "true" with memory cache,
it crashes only 4 or 5 times/day. I 'am in contact with phil wade
for this problem, but we don't find why. if anyone has an idea, it's
welcome!
isabelle

Le Jeudi, 11 sept 2003, à 01:17 America/Montreal, Roland A. Dumas a  
écrit :

Don't know about that particular error code, but if you're running
FMP and you've moved some of your apps from T2K, you may have a
stray ¥ in your taf.
In the old world (including the first betas of witango) when you
selected as your data source "any filemaker", a symbol would be
dropped that was from the MacRoman character set - the yen symbol.
In the current version of witango, that should be a Latin-1 symbol:
#
You have to open your taf in a text editor and make those changes.

If you have a stray ¥, it will crash witango server 100% of the
time when it hits that action.
On Wednesday, September 10, 2003, at 06:37 PM, Joe Terrasi wrote:

Witangod started crashing on me inexplicably today. Please offer
any insight.
Mac OSX 10.2.6
AppSvr v. 5.0.1.062
FileMakerPro 6
I get the following error in witangoevents.log:

[  682] 2003-09-10 20:31:52 RUNTIMEFATALCaught fatal
signal 10 (SIGBUS); thread id = 4557536; code: 1; address:
0014ce90; value: ; errno: 0; status: 0;
--
Joe Terrasi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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St. Clement Church  http://www.stclementchurch.org
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Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Dave Machin
We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are waiting for DBMS query 
results seem to be timing out before WiTango has a chance to return the results.

We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and everything was fine, as long 
as you waited for the queries to return.  Now, I either get an error code 500 from IIS 
or a 'Cannot find server or DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I trace the WiTango logs I 
see that after my browser shows an error WiTango finally does get the DBMS results and 
continues processing of the taf file and 'returns' the results to IIS as normal.  But 
my browser has already shown an error to me.

I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS that would control this.  
There is a connection timeout setting at 900 seconds - but my error happened at 
exactly 300 seconds.

Any ideas?

Dave Machin 


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Witango-Talk: Accessing User Variables

2003-09-11 Thread molariu
Title: Message



 

Hello all,
 
The problem that I have is to find 
out:
1-  what <@UserReference>s are 
current;
2-  what variables are associated with 
a particular <@UserReference> and their respective values.
 
I have checked the documentation but could 
not find this infromation. <@VARNAMES> only gives these values for the 
current user's session, not for all active users (some of those might not 
even be logged in).
 
From what I understand, this information is 
already available to the server (this is how it keeps track of variables & 
timeouts) but I do not know how to acquire it. I imagine two calls would 
solve the problem: one would return the array of <@UserReference>s, the 
other the pairs (name, values) of variables associated with one particular 
<@UserReference>.
 
Of course I can save all 
<@UserReferences> and created variables in a DB and also update them when 
modified. This will however collect a lot of info that I do not need and have 
a major negative impact on performance.
It's got to be an easier way.
 
I would really appreciate if anybody can 
help and provide hints to a solution or point to documentation that might have 
escaped me.
My apologies if this issue has been already 
solved in previous messages; I made a search but I could not find what I 
needed.
 
 
Mihai.



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Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Jeff Bohmer
This sounds like a client error.  There is a setting for clients.ini
called CLIENTIOTIMEOUT.  It defaults to 300 seconds.  If the client
doesn't get a response back within CLIENTIOTIMEOUT, it makes the web
server return a 500 error.
If you have changed QUERYTIMEOUT to 900, try changing CLIENTIOTIMEOUT
to 900.  Or even 910, so that when something does timeout, you'll be
sure the TIMEOUTHTML file is returned instead of the Witango client's
500 error.  This CLIENTIOTIMEOUT setting can go under each of your
WITANGO_SERVER lines in clients.ini.
Also, be careful editing clients.ini -- it is re-read by the Witango
client on each request.  So don't save that file unless it's in valid
format.  Otherwise, the client might not process incoming requests.
- Jeff



We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are waiting
for DBMS query results seem to be timing out before WiTango has a
chance to return the results.
We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and everything
was fine, as long as you waited for the queries to return.  Now, I
either get an error code 500 from IIS or a 'Cannot find server or
DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I trace the WiTango logs I see that
after my browser shows an error WiTango finally does get the DBMS
results and continues processing of the taf file and 'returns' the
results to IIS as normal.  But my browser has already shown an error
to me.
I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS that
would control this.  There is a connection timeout setting at 900
seconds - but my error happened at exactly 300 seconds.
Any ideas?

Dave Machin

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Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Dave Machin
That sounds promising...  But I don't see any CLIENTIOTIMEOUT entry.  If none exists 
is it using the default?  Do I add one in to change it.

Here is my clients.ini:

[Witango Client Definitions]
wapache.dll=
wcgi.exe=
wiis.dll=

[wapache.dll]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE

[wiis.dll]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE

[wcgi.exe]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE

- Original Message - 
From: "Jeff Bohmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished



This sounds like a client error.  There is a setting for clients.ini 
called CLIENTIOTIMEOUT.  It defaults to 300 seconds.  If the client 
doesn't get a response back within CLIENTIOTIMEOUT, it makes the web 
server return a 500 error.

If you have changed QUERYTIMEOUT to 900, try changing CLIENTIOTIMEOUT 
to 900.  Or even 910, so that when something does timeout, you'll be 
sure the TIMEOUTHTML file is returned instead of the Witango client's 
500 error.  This CLIENTIOTIMEOUT setting can go under each of your 
WITANGO_SERVER lines in clients.ini.

Also, be careful editing clients.ini -- it is re-read by the Witango 
client on each request.  So don't save that file unless it's in valid 
format.  Otherwise, the client might not process incoming requests.

- Jeff



>We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are waiting 
>for DBMS query results seem to be timing out before WiTango has a 
>chance to return the results.
>
>We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and everything 
>was fine, as long as you waited for the queries to return.  Now, I 
>either get an error code 500 from IIS or a 'Cannot find server or 
>DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I trace the WiTango logs I see that 
>after my browser shows an error WiTango finally does get the DBMS 
>results and continues processing of the taf file and 'returns' the 
>results to IIS as normal.  But my browser has already shown an error 
>to me.
>
>I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS that 
>would control this.  There is a connection timeout setting at 900 
>seconds - but my error happened at exactly 300 seconds.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Dave Machin
>
>
>E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Tel.  805.614.0123 x 30
>Address: 3130 Skyway Drive #702
>Santa Maria, CA 
>93455×××ÕÈS"ÕP"ÐÔ'P'N^ÛÈÈ-ËÝÝÝ˝Ú][TÛË~ÛÛKÛXZ[\Ý
> YÝ

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RE: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Ben Johansen
Wow, where did you find out about this great nugget of information?
Is there anymore?

Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller 
Available for Witango Developement


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From: Jeff Bohmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is
finished


This sounds like a client error.  There is a setting for clients.ini 
called CLIENTIOTIMEOUT.  It defaults to 300 seconds.  If the client 
doesn't get a response back within CLIENTIOTIMEOUT, it makes the web 
server return a 500 error.

If you have changed QUERYTIMEOUT to 900, try changing CLIENTIOTIMEOUT 
to 900.  Or even 910, so that when something does timeout, you'll be 
sure the TIMEOUTHTML file is returned instead of the Witango client's 
500 error.  This CLIENTIOTIMEOUT setting can go under each of your 
WITANGO_SERVER lines in clients.ini.

Also, be careful editing clients.ini -- it is re-read by the Witango 
client on each request.  So don't save that file unless it's in valid 
format.  Otherwise, the client might not process incoming requests.

- Jeff



>We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are waiting 
>for DBMS query results seem to be timing out before WiTango has a 
>chance to return the results.
>
>We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and everything 
>was fine, as long as you waited for the queries to return.  Now, I 
>either get an error code 500 from IIS or a 'Cannot find server or 
>DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I trace the WiTango logs I see that 
>after my browser shows an error WiTango finally does get the DBMS 
>results and continues processing of the taf file and 'returns' the 
>results to IIS as normal.  But my browser has already shown an error 
>to me.
>
>I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS that 
>would control this.  There is a connection timeout setting at 900 
>seconds - but my error happened at exactly 300 seconds.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Dave Machin
>
>
>E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Tel.  805.614.0123 x 30
>Address: 3130 Skyway Drive #702
>Santa Maria, CA 
>93455×
××ÕÈS”ÕP”ÐԒP‘NˆÛÈÈ
-ËÝÝÝ˝Ú][™Û˘ÛÛKÛXZ[\Ý
YÝ

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Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Jeff Bohmer
It isn't in the shipped clients.ini, you have to add it.  Without it
in there, it defaults to 300.  If you add it, your clients.ini should
look something like this:
[Witango Client Definitions]
wapache.dll=
wcgi.exe=
wiis.dll=
[wapache.dll]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE
CLIENTIOTIMEOUT=910
[wiis.dll]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE
CLIENTIOTIMEOUT=910
[wcgi.exe]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE
CLIENTIOTIMEOUT=910
- Jeff



That sounds promising...  But I don't see any CLIENTIOTIMEOUT entry.
If none exists is it using the default?  Do I add one in to change
it.
Here is my clients.ini:

[Witango Client Definitions]
wapache.dll=
wcgi.exe=
wiis.dll=
[wapache.dll]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE
[wiis.dll]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE
[wcgi.exe]
WITANGO_SERVER=127.0.0.1,18100
ERROR_HTML=C:\\Program Files\\Witango\\Server\\MiscFiles\\clienterror.html
REPORTCLIENTERROR=TRUE
- Original Message -
From: "Jeff Bohmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished


This sounds like a client error.  There is a setting for clients.ini
called CLIENTIOTIMEOUT.  It defaults to 300 seconds.  If the client
doesn't get a response back within CLIENTIOTIMEOUT, it makes the web
server return a 500 error.
If you have changed QUERYTIMEOUT to 900, try changing CLIENTIOTIMEOUT
to 900.  Or even 910, so that when something does timeout, you'll be
sure the TIMEOUTHTML file is returned instead of the Witango client's
500 error.  This CLIENTIOTIMEOUT setting can go under each of your
WITANGO_SERVER lines in clients.ini.
Also, be careful editing clients.ini -- it is re-read by the Witango
client on each request.  So don't save that file unless it's in valid
format.  Otherwise, the client might not process incoming requests.
- Jeff



We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are waiting
for DBMS query results seem to be timing out before WiTango has a
chance to return the results.
We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and everything
was fine, as long as you waited for the queries to return.  Now, I
either get an error code 500 from IIS or a 'Cannot find server or
DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I trace the WiTango logs I see that
after my browser shows an error WiTango finally does get the DBMS
results and continues processing of the taf file and 'returns' the
results to IIS as normal.  But my browser has already shown an error
to me.
I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS that
would control this.  There is a connection timeout setting at 900
seconds - but my error happened at exactly 300 seconds.
Any ideas?

Dave Machin

E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tel.  805.614.0123 x 30
Address: 3130 Skyway Drive #702
Santa Maria, CA
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RE: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Jeff Bohmer
I reported "the client giving up after 300 seconds" as a bug to With.
Then they told me about CLIENTIOTIMEOUT.  At the time, this wasn't in
any documentation that I could find.  I'm not sure if the docs have
it yet.
I don't know of any other undocumented stuff.  Any other clients.ini
entries I know about are outlined in the Pro Config Guide and only
apply to the Professional app server.
- Jeff



Wow, where did you find out about this great nugget of information?
Is there anymore?
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Available for Witango Developement
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Bohmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is
finished
This sounds like a client error.  There is a setting for clients.ini
called CLIENTIOTIMEOUT.  It defaults to 300 seconds.  If the client
doesn't get a response back within CLIENTIOTIMEOUT, it makes the web
server return a 500 error.
If you have changed QUERYTIMEOUT to 900, try changing CLIENTIOTIMEOUT
to 900.  Or even 910, so that when something does timeout, you'll be
sure the TIMEOUTHTML file is returned instead of the Witango client's
500 error.  This CLIENTIOTIMEOUT setting can go under each of your
WITANGO_SERVER lines in clients.ini.
Also, be careful editing clients.ini -- it is re-read by the Witango
client on each request.  So don't save that file unless it's in valid
format.  Otherwise, the client might not process incoming requests.
- Jeff



We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are waiting
for DBMS query results seem to be timing out before WiTango has a
chance to return the results.
We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and everything
was fine, as long as you waited for the queries to return.  Now, I
either get an error code 500 from IIS or a 'Cannot find server or
DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I trace the WiTango logs I see that
after my browser shows an error WiTango finally does get the DBMS
results and continues processing of the taf file and 'returns' the
results to IIS as normal.  But my browser has already shown an error
to me.
I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS that
would control this.  There is a connection timeout setting at 900
seconds - but my error happened at exactly 300 seconds.
Any ideas?

Dave Machin

E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Address: 3130 Skyway Drive #702
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RE: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hi Dave,

It can be deceiving, but your browser probably timeout long before IIS did.

This is where you're programming has to get creative.

One suggestion is to investigate the "Push" feature of the Search Action.

If you're got a long running Loop of some sort, then you can "Push" small
bits of content on each Loop to create a continuous stream to the browser
until the query finishes.

As long as the browser is receiving content in small bits in reasonable
intervals - the browser will wait forever without timing out.

If your query is in one action, then look at ways of breaking it up.

This is just one suggestion - more details from you might trigger some other
thoughts

Hope this helps. Cheers.

Scott Cadillac,
Witango.org - http://witango.org
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> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Machin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango 
> is finished
> 
> 
> We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are 
> waiting for DBMS query results seem to be timing out before 
> WiTango has a chance to return the results.
> 
> We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and 
> everything was fine, as long as you waited for the queries to 
> return.  Now, I either get an error code 500 from IIS or a 
> 'Cannot find server or DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I 
> trace the WiTango logs I see that after my browser shows an 
> error WiTango finally does get the DBMS results and continues 
> processing of the taf file and 'returns' the results to IIS 
> as normal.  But my browser has already shown an error to me.
> 
> I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS 
> that would control this.  There is a connection timeout 
> setting at 900 seconds - but my error happened at exactly 300 seconds.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Dave Machin 
> 
> 
> E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel.  805.614.0123 x 30
> Address: 3130 Skyway Drive #702
> Santa Maria, CA 
> 93455TOUNUBCRB
> E G t htp//wwwiano.ommallstta
> 


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Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Dave Machin
Yes, I did fix some other reporting issues with a 'push' and a little progress bar - 
but now I have one where it's just one single query and I have to wait for it to 
return.  The CLIENTIOTIMEOUT thing sounds promising - maybe that's my issue.

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Cadillac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:51 AM
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished


Hi Dave,

It can be deceiving, but your browser probably timeout long before IIS did.

This is where you're programming has to get creative.

One suggestion is to investigate the "Push" feature of the Search Action.

If you're got a long running Loop of some sort, then you can "Push" small
bits of content on each Loop to create a continuous stream to the browser
until the query finishes.

As long as the browser is receiving content in small bits in reasonable
intervals - the browser will wait forever without timing out.

If your query is in one action, then look at ways of breaking it up.

This is just one suggestion - more details from you might trigger some other
thoughts

Hope this helps. Cheers.

Scott Cadillac,
Witango.org - http://witango.org
403-281-6090 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-

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-


> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Machin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango 
> is finished
> 
> 
> We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are 
> waiting for DBMS query results seem to be timing out before 
> WiTango has a chance to return the results.
> 
> We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and 
> everything was fine, as long as you waited for the queries to 
> return.  Now, I either get an error code 500 from IIS or a 
> 'Cannot find server or DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I 
> trace the WiTango logs I see that after my browser shows an 
> error WiTango finally does get the DBMS results and continues 
> processing of the taf file and 'returns' the results to IIS 
> as normal.  But my browser has already shown an error to me.
> 
> I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS 
> that would control this.  There is a connection timeout 
> setting at 900 seconds - but my error happened at exactly 300 seconds.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Dave Machin 
> 
> 
> E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Tel.  805.614.0123 x 30
> Address: 3130 Skyway Drive #702
> Santa Maria, CA 
> 93455TOUNUBCRB
> E G t htp//wwwiano.ommallstta
> 


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RE: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is finished

2003-09-11 Thread Ben Johansen
Thanks,
I have added the default entry of 300 in the client.ini as a reminder
I searched all the latest docs I could find and didn't see it.

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Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller 
Available for Witango Developement


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Bohmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is
finished


I reported "the client giving up after 300 seconds" as a bug to With. 
Then they told me about CLIENTIOTIMEOUT.  At the time, this wasn't in 
any documentation that I could find.  I'm not sure if the docs have 
it yet.

I don't know of any other undocumented stuff.  Any other clients.ini 
entries I know about are outlined in the Pro Config Guide and only 
apply to the Professional app server.

- Jeff



>Wow, where did you find out about this great nugget of information?
>Is there anymore?
>
>Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
>Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller
>Available for Witango Developement
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jeff Bohmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:26 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Urgent - IIS times out before WiTango is
>finished
>
>
>This sounds like a client error.  There is a setting for clients.ini
>called CLIENTIOTIMEOUT.  It defaults to 300 seconds.  If the client
>doesn't get a response back within CLIENTIOTIMEOUT, it makes the web
>server return a 500 error.
>
>If you have changed QUERYTIMEOUT to 900, try changing CLIENTIOTIMEOUT
>to 900.  Or even 910, so that when something does timeout, you'll be
>sure the TIMEOUTHTML file is returned instead of the Witango client's
>500 error.  This CLIENTIOTIMEOUT setting can go under each of your
>WITANGO_SERVER lines in clients.ini.
>
>Also, be careful editing clients.ini -- it is re-read by the Witango
>client on each request.  So don't save that file unless it's in valid
>format.  Otherwise, the client might not process incoming requests.
>
>- Jeff
>
>
>
>>We're suddenly having a problem where WiTango pages that are waiting
>>for DBMS query results seem to be timing out before WiTango has a
>>chance to return the results.
>>
>>We have some long-running queries (like 5-7 minutes) and everything
>>was fine, as long as you waited for the queries to return.  Now, I
>>either get an error code 500 from IIS or a 'Cannot find server or
>>DNS Error' after 5 minutes.  If I trace the WiTango logs I see that
>>after my browser shows an error WiTango finally does get the DBMS
>>results and continues processing of the taf file and 'returns' the
>>results to IIS as normal.  But my browser has already shown an error
>>to me.
>>
>>I can't find where there might be a 'timeout' setting in IIS that
>>would control this.  There is a connection timeout setting at 900
>>seconds - but my error happened at exactly 300 seconds.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>   
>>Dave Machin
>>
>>
>>E-Mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Tel.  805.614.0123 x 30
>>Address: 3130 Skyway Drive #702
>>Santa Maria, CA
>>93455
×
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Witango-Talk: mail encryption

2003-09-11 Thread Roland A . Dumas
can a mail message use PGP encryption?


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Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Fogelson, Steve
I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I only
want to create the arrays once.

Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a different
taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.

Thanks

Steve Fogelson
Internet Commerce Solutions

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RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Harpreet Matharu
<@PURGE USER$YOURVARIABLENAME>

-Original Message-
From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:01 PM
To: Witango User Group (E-mail)
Subject: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing


I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I only
want to create the arrays once.

Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a different
taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.

Thanks

Steve Fogelson
Internet Commerce Solutions

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RE: Witango-Talk: Accessing User Variables

2003-09-11 Thread Robert Shubert
Title: Message









Step 1. Record all USERREFERENCES

 

 A. If you have a clearly defined login procedure,
add an @ADDROWS to create a one column domain array
containing each USERREFERENCE created. Use the variable timeout trigger to
remove the USERREFERENCE from the array. You might want to consider adding a
timestamp column as well, to track creation time, this in optional.

 

B. If you do not have a clearly defined
login, you’ll have to run your @ADDROWS whenever you might be
establishing a USERREFERENCE. You can always record in a user var that you’ve
done this step, and can skip it from then on.

 

Step 2. @URL to fetch the uservars.

 

A. Create an application (showuservars.taf)
that:

 

 @ASSIGNS request$varnames <@VARNAMES
scope=user>

 @ROWS array=varnames

    <@COL
1>: <@VAR user$<@COL 1>>

/@ROWS

 

B. Loop through the domain variable
containing all USERREFERENCEs and

 

 @URL location=showuservars.taf?_UserReference=<@COL
1>

 

Remember that each time you run this
script you’ll reset ALL user scopes to the default timeout. If you run
this repeatedly in less time then the user var timeout is, your server will
never clear user vars, and eventually exhaust its memory.

 

Robert Shubert

Tronics

 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003
2:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Witango-Talk: Accessing
User Variables

 



 



Hello
all,



 





The
problem that I have is to find out:





1-
 what <@UserReference>s are current;





2- 
what variables are associated with a particular <@UserReference> and
their respective values.





 





I have
checked the documentation but could not find this infromation.
<@VARNAMES> only gives these values for the current user's session, not
for all active users (some of those might not even be logged in).





 





From
what I understand, this information is already available to the server (this is
how it keeps track of variables & timeouts) but I do not know how to
acquire it. I imagine two calls would solve the problem: one would return
the array of <@UserReference>s, the other the pairs (name, values) of
variables associated with one particular <@UserReference>.





 





Of
course I can save all <@UserReferences> and created variables in a DB and
also update them when modified. This will however collect a lot of info that I do
not need and have a major negative impact on performance.





It's
got to be an easier way.





 





I would
really appreciate if anybody can help and provide hints to a solution or point
to documentation that might have escaped me.





My
apologies if this issue has been already solved in previous messages; I made a
search but I could not find what I needed.





 





 





Mihai.










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Re: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Atrix Wolfe
hey Steve

I dont think so, since purging user variables is server side and closing a
window is client side its kinda a difficult thing to do.

why not try this?  When it gets to the spot where its creating these large
variables, check if they are empty before it creates them.  Only fetch the
data if they are empty (:

Another thing you can do is if this is like a "sub form" and you have a main
form thats the bug of alot of your functions, you could put a purge at your
main form for these large variables so when the user comes back to the main
form, it frees the memory.

- Original Message -
From: "Fogelson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Witango User Group (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:00 PM
Subject: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing


> I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
> creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
> creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I only
> want to create the arrays once.
>
> Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
> closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a different
> taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
> would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve Fogelson
> Internet Commerce Solutions
> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Atrix Wolfe
sorry...didnt spell check :P

is if this is like a "sub form" and you have a main
form thats the bug of alot of your functions

"bug" should read "hub"

- Original Message -
From: "Atrix Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing


> hey Steve
>
> I dont think so, since purging user variables is server side and closing a
> window is client side its kinda a difficult thing to do.
>
> why not try this?  When it gets to the spot where its creating these large
> variables, check if they are empty before it creates them.  Only fetch the
> data if they are empty (:
>
> Another thing you can do is if this is like a "sub form" and you have a
main
> form thats the bug of alot of your functions, you could put a purge at
your
> main form for these large variables so when the user comes back to the
main
> form, it frees the memory.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Fogelson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Witango User Group (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:00 PM
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing
>
>
> > I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
> > creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
> > creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I
only
> > want to create the arrays once.
> >
> > Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
> > closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a
different
> > taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
> > would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Steve Fogelson
> > Internet Commerce Solutions
> > 
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Witango-Talk: WiTango / IIS Internal Server Error

2003-09-11 Thread Mike Tyranski
Hey all,

I have a strange problem here.  Just finished a brand new install on a 
Win 2K box with IIS 5 and WiTango.  When attempting to hit some taf 
files on the server I get an "HTTP 500 Internal Server Error" in the 
browser.  After checking the tango log, I see the request for the taf is 
indeed sent to the app server, but WiTango reports the following in the log

[Error] -3 The application file was either missing or invalid. /test.taf

The strange part is, I can serve up a .tml file that is sitting in the 
exact same directory as the test.taf file.  My question is, why is 
WiTango processing .tml files and not .taf files?  I opened up the .taf 
in a text editor to see if it was corrupt, but it seemed to be fine. 
Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks.

Mike


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RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Ben Johansen
Ok

Place these files in the root
1. Run the TestPurge.taf
2. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var value)
3. click on the "Call popup" (will show the user var value in popup)
4. click close or press window X in popup window
5. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var empty this time)

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Available for Witango Developement


-Original Message-
From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Witango User Group (E-mail)
Subject: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I
only
want to create the arrays once.

Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a
different
taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.

Thanks

Steve Fogelson
Internet Commerce Solutions

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Re: Witango-Talk: WiTango / IIS Internal Server Error

2003-09-11 Thread Jeff Bohmer
The XML might be messed up in such a way that it looks fine from a 
text editor, but is invalid.  You could try opening the TAF in the 
Dev Studio (on OS X TAFs with invalid XML don't open in the Studio). 
You could also try taking a simple TAF from a server that is known to 
work and trying it on your new server.

- Jeff



Hey all,

I have a strange problem here.  Just finished a brand new install on 
a Win 2K box with IIS 5 and WiTango.  When attempting to hit some 
taf files on the server I get an "HTTP 500 Internal Server Error" in 
the browser.  After checking the tango log, I see the request for 
the taf is indeed sent to the app server, but WiTango reports the 
following in the log

[Error] -3 The application file was either missing or invalid. /test.taf

The strange part is, I can serve up a .tml file that is sitting in 
the exact same directory as the test.taf file.  My question is, why 
is WiTango processing .tml files and not .taf files?  I opened up 
the .taf in a text editor to see if it was corrupt, but it seemed to 
be fine. Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks.

Mike
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Re: Witango-Talk: WiTango / IIS Internal Server Error

2003-09-11 Thread Mike Tyranski
The TAF opened fine in the dev studio.  Plus the taf only has a results 
action with the text "test" in it.  I also tried the same TAF on a 
production WiTango server already setup and it worked fine.  I'm 
guessing there is something simple that I'm overlooking.

Mike

Jeff Bohmer wrote:

The XML might be messed up in such a way that it looks fine from a text 
editor, but is invalid.  You could try opening the TAF in the Dev Studio 
(on OS X TAFs with invalid XML don't open in the Studio). You could also 
try taking a simple TAF from a server that is known to work and trying 
it on your new server.

- Jeff



Hey all,

I have a strange problem here.  Just finished a brand new install on a 
Win 2K box with IIS 5 and WiTango.  When attempting to hit some taf 
files on the server I get an "HTTP 500 Internal Server Error" in the 
browser.  After checking the tango log, I see the request for the taf 
is indeed sent to the app server, but WiTango reports the following in 
the log

[Error] -3 The application file was either missing or invalid. /test.taf

The strange part is, I can serve up a .tml file that is sitting in the 
exact same directory as the test.taf file.  My question is, why is 
WiTango processing .tml files and not .taf files?  I opened up the 
.taf in a text editor to see if it was corrupt, but it seemed to be 
fine. Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks.

Mike
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RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Fogelson, Steve
Ben,

I use MS IE 6. On my machine it doesn't work. The variable @@user$TheUserVar
still show Hello World pm the second "Call View".

It seems like your logic should work though.

Is it possible that the javascript window.close(); executes before  can do it's work?

Thanks

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing


Ok

Place these files in the root
1. Run the TestPurge.taf
2. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var value)
3. click on the "Call popup" (will show the user var value in popup)
4. click close or press window X in popup window
5. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var empty this time)

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-Original Message-
From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Witango User Group (E-mail)
Subject: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I
only
want to create the arrays once.

Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a
different
taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.

Thanks

Steve Fogelson
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RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Ben Johansen
Same here,
Change your browser to under
Tools/Internet Options
Find
Temporary Internet files and click settings
Select "Every visit to the page" under "Check for newer version of the
stored pages:"

Your previous view page was cashed oops I mean cached ;-)

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-Original Message-
From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:26 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

Ben,

I use MS IE 6. On my machine it doesn't work. The variable
@@user$TheUserVar
still show Hello World pm the second "Call View".

It seems like your logic should work though.

Is it possible that the javascript window.close(); executes before  can do it's work?

Thanks

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing


Ok

Place these files in the root
1. Run the TestPurge.taf
2. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var value)
3. click on the "Call popup" (will show the user var value in popup)
4. click close or press window X in popup window
5. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var empty this time)

Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
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Available for Witango Developement


-Original Message-
From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Witango User Group (E-mail)
Subject: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I
only
want to create the arrays once.

Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a
different
taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.

Thanks

Steve Fogelson
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Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?

2003-09-11 Thread Jim Kass
Hey Guys,

I wrote a TAF that will read specific information out of any TAF, using
X-Pointer Syntax and DOM.
The problem is that it only works in some cases...

The DOM code is:
<@ASSIGN local$xmlDoc <@DOM VALUE="<@INCLUDE FILE=@@somefilepath>">

but as you all know, <@INCLUDE FILE=...> will EVALUATE the metatags, and if
there is any dynamic array processing(such as a FILTER action that expects
an array that is built dynamically), it will break.

Anyone know any other way to construct a DOM object, or read a file into a
variable with ENCODING=NONE?


Thanks in advance,


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RE: Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?

2003-09-11 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hey Jim, this sounds cool - haven't thought of that one :-)

Have you tried the <@LITERAL> Meta Tag?

<@ASSIGN local$xmlDoc <@DOM VALUE="<@LITERAL VALUE='<@INCLUDE
FILE=@@somefilepath>'>">

It could get messy, but let us know how it goes.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Kass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com
> Subject: Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?
> 
> 
> Hey Guys,
> 
> I wrote a TAF that will read specific information out of any 
> TAF, using
> X-Pointer Syntax and DOM.
> The problem is that it only works in some cases...
> 
> The DOM code is:
> <@ASSIGN local$xmlDoc <@DOM VALUE="<@INCLUDE FILE=@@somefilepath>">
> 
> but as you all know, <@INCLUDE FILE=...> will EVALUATE the 
> metatags, and if
> there is any dynamic array processing(such as a FILTER action 
> that expects
> an array that is built dynamically), it will break.
> 
> Anyone know any other way to construct a DOM object, or read 
> a file into a
> variable with ENCODING=NONE?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> 
> Jim Kass
> Web Developer
> 
> --
> Forestweb: The Source for Industry Intelligence
> Best Content -- Most Relevant -- Best Delivery
> http://www.forestweb.com
> (310) 553 - 0008
> 
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Re: Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?

2003-09-11 Thread Stefan Gonick
How about trying a read file action?

Stefan

At 03:06 PM 9/11/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hey Guys,

I wrote a TAF that will read specific information out of any TAF, using
X-Pointer Syntax and DOM.
The problem is that it only works in some cases...
The DOM code is:
<@ASSIGN local$xmlDoc <@DOM VALUE="<@INCLUDE FILE=@@somefilepath>">
but as you all know, <@INCLUDE FILE=...> will EVALUATE the metatags, and if
there is any dynamic array processing(such as a FILTER action that expects
an array that is built dynamically), it will break.
Anyone know any other way to construct a DOM object, or read a file into a
variable with ENCODING=NONE?
Thanks in advance,

Jim Kass
Web Developer
--
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Best Content -- Most Relevant -- Best Delivery
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RE: Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?

2003-09-11 Thread Jim Kass
I was trying to use Metatags the whole time...
Using the File Read action solved the problem thanks...

I'm probably too late to submit this little tool to any contest, but I'll
try to get it together if anyone is interested.

Basically...

It is a tool for checking dependencies...
right now it only supports tables and customSQL, later it could check
objects, files, user/domain variables, etc.

Jim Kass
Web Developer

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-Original Message-
From: Stefan Gonick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?


How about trying a read file action?

Stefan

At 03:06 PM 9/11/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey Guys,
>
>I wrote a TAF that will read specific information out of any TAF, using
>X-Pointer Syntax and DOM.
>The problem is that it only works in some cases...
>
>The DOM code is:
><@ASSIGN local$xmlDoc <@DOM VALUE="<@INCLUDE FILE=@@somefilepath>">
>
>but as you all know, <@INCLUDE FILE=...> will EVALUATE the metatags, and if
>there is any dynamic array processing(such as a FILTER action that expects
>an array that is built dynamically), it will break.
>
>Anyone know any other way to construct a DOM object, or read a file into a
>variable with ENCODING=NONE?
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>
>Jim Kass
>Web Developer
>
>--
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>Best Content -- Most Relevant -- Best Delivery
>http://www.forestweb.com
>(310) 553 - 0008
>
>
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RE: Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?

2003-09-11 Thread Ben Johansen
Hey, the contest is still open ;-)

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-Original Message-
From: Jim Kass [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 4:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?

I was trying to use Metatags the whole time...
Using the File Read action solved the problem thanks...

I'm probably too late to submit this little tool to any contest, but
I'll
try to get it together if anyone is interested.

Basically...

It is a tool for checking dependencies...
right now it only supports tables and customSQL, later it could check
objects, files, user/domain variables, etc.

Jim Kass
Web Developer

--
Forestweb: The Source for Industry Intelligence
Best Content -- Most Relevant -- Best Delivery
http://www.forestweb.com
(310) 553 - 0008

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Gonick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 3:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Using DOM anyone?


How about trying a read file action?

Stefan

At 03:06 PM 9/11/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Hey Guys,
>
>I wrote a TAF that will read specific information out of any TAF, using
>X-Pointer Syntax and DOM.
>The problem is that it only works in some cases...
>
>The DOM code is:
><@ASSIGN local$xmlDoc <@DOM VALUE="<@INCLUDE FILE=@@somefilepath>">
>
>but as you all know, <@INCLUDE FILE=...> will EVALUATE the metatags,
and if
>there is any dynamic array processing(such as a FILTER action that
expects
>an array that is built dynamically), it will break.
>
>Anyone know any other way to construct a DOM object, or read a file
into a
>variable with ENCODING=NONE?
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>
>Jim Kass
>Web Developer
>
>--
>Forestweb: The Source for Industry Intelligence
>Best Content -- Most Relevant -- Best Delivery
>http://www.forestweb.com
>(310) 553 - 0008
>
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Re: Witango-Talk: Access database problem

2003-09-11 Thread Garth Penglase
Yes, good suggestion - I also find that it is necessary to replace 
data fields in actions when transferring tafs from one database to 
another, and one Tango platform to another sometimes - possibly 
because there is a bug in the way that it stores the information for 
development Vs. deployment data sources.

But I figured out the problem. Since I use a different database to 
test on my dev system than Access and the ODBC field selection is 
different from Access, I was using Varchar for the MEMO fields, but 
after changing them to LongChar it works fine.

thanks for the input.
Garth
I've never had any trouble with Memo fields in Access.
Why don't you try recreating the database actions from
scratch? That might take care of it.
Stefan

At 11:43 PM 9/11/2003 +1000, you wrote:
Anyone experienced problems with reading and writing to a MEMO 
field in an Access database?
It seems that if the characters are over 1024k it just won't 
update, and if the field is empty it won't read it. I get a 
precision error messages.

I'm using Witango 5 app (win 2k) server, but these are T2k files 
created on a Mac (if I remember rightly they were working Ok when 
they were T3 files (mac) running on the same server, so it may be 
something to do with how the T2k editor handles the ODBC.

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Re: Witango-Talk: mail encryption

2003-09-11 Thread Garth Penglase
yes. hope someone else can shed some light on how to integrate it 
with Witango though, as I haven't put any time into it, but would 
like to implement something like that for a couple of sites.
Garth

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RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Trevor Green
Could one use this method to generally log out a user when they close
their browser window? In other words could one put a  in every page's header and then call some general
taf that would clear that user's user variable when they close the
window?

Regards
Trevor

-Original Message-
From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 September 2003 10:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

Ok

Place these files in the root
1. Run the TestPurge.taf
2. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var value)
3. click on the "Call popup" (will show the user var value in popup)
4. click close or press window X in popup window
5. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var empty this time)

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-Original Message-
From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Witango User Group (E-mail)
Subject: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I
only
want to create the arrays once.

Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a
different
taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.

Thanks

Steve Fogelson
Internet Commerce Solutions

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RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

2003-09-11 Thread Ben Johansen
It might work

When I first tested PurgeOnClose.taf with calling it as a popup window
Witango Server didn't like it, as a matter of fact it crashed the server.
I think it had something to do with the fact that there was now where for
the result html to go

I guess if you wrapped the code in <@EXCLUDE>  so that there is
no output from the taf, kind of like a taf you would use in a cron job it
might work. But all the code did was do a <@PURGE> it could have had some
text. I guess also <@PURGERESULTS> at the end might do it.

Give it a try and let us know ;-)


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-Original Message-
From: Trevor Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing


Could one use this method to generally log out a user when they close
their browser window? In other words could one put a  in every page's header and then call some general
taf that would clear that user's user variable when they close the
window?

Regards
Trevor

-Original Message-
From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 11 September 2003 10:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

Ok

Place these files in the root
1. Run the TestPurge.taf
2. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var value)
3. click on the "Call popup" (will show the user var value in popup)
4. click close or press window X in popup window
5. click on the "Call View" (will show the user var empty this time)

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Available for Witango Developement


-Original Message-
From: Fogelson, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:01 PM
To: Witango User Group (E-mail)
Subject: Witango-Talk: Purge user variable on window closing

I use a popup window in an application. The popup window is a taf that
creates user variables. I need to use user variables in the popup as it
creates a few large arrays and the taf branches back to itself, so I
only
want to create the arrays once.

Is there a way to purge specific user variables when a popup window is
closed? FYI: the parent window would still be open, but may be a
different
taf than the original one that opened the popup. So I believe the popup
would need to purge the user variables when it is closed.

Thanks

Steve Fogelson
Internet Commerce Solutions

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RE: Witango-Talk: mail encryption

2003-09-11 Thread Ben Johansen
If you are talking about a Mail Action.
Yes, but you need to send it in Ascii-Armored format and the recipient would
have to do the decrypting within the mail client PGP setup.

If want to send it with the data and the key so that the email client
automatically decrypts it you would have to use <@EMAIL and <@EMAILSESSION
This is because you need to do a multipart email

something like this


MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature";
micalg="pgp-md5"; boundary="Boundary"

Boundary
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

aksfjklsjdflksadfasfkasdklfasdfkasfkasfadsfsadf

Boundary
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature

-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE
Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2

ajskldfjslkdfjklsajfdkdsaf
aflkasdjflsadfkklsdaf;jskdaf
asdflsdafsadlkfjsad;fsadj
=pcdH
-END PGP MESSAGE

Boundary-


I have been doing tests on this with PGP version 6.5.8 I got from
http://www.pgpi.org
I will be doing more test on PGP within <@EMAILSESSION for inclusion in my
presentation at the conference


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Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:05 PM
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Subject: Witango-Talk: mail encryption


can a mail message use PGP encryption?


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