Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
I found this rather tasty Applet: http://www.radinks.com/upload/applet.php Not only can it test file size, but it can even resize client side. I guess the only question is are end users (particularly non-Mac) used to drag and drop? Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
Wayne Irvine wrote: I will be running a photo competition for one of my largest clients and would appreciate some feedback from others who have don this sort of thing before. The client expected to have contestants send photos via email. I've suggested a web form with file upload instead but would be interested to know if and how well Witango's Email tags process an attachment. Tried this and it was really really BAD I ended up writing a java program (which we named the email robot) to read the inbox for the attachments instead of the witango based thing. It was much faster and more stable than the @email stuff that Witango had. In addition to accepting the attachment, it makes sure of things like the correct file type and replies to the user to let them know it was successful or not. It also includes a link to the site to view what they just sent in via email. I will say this though the site we were working with requires some very large attachments. It is for an advertising awards show so in addition to print pieces which were uploaded as jpg files, there are also tv and radio commercials uploaded as mov / mp3 files. Secondly, I'm not entirely sure of the sort of capacity I require. They are expecting up to 10,000 entries per day for 10 days. Assuming people obey the rules (rolleyes) images shouldn't be larger than 200Kb. So that is about 2Gb per day but it will obviously have peaks at certain points. Are there algorithms for working out the bandwidth required. And I guess the last question is where can I find short term high bandwidth hosting for a Witango solution or should I look at co-location? Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
biggest concern for me would be to quarantine uploads and scan them for viruses. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
I have an upload module I built and am pondering this very situation. IF you get any great ideas on how to scan the files once they are upped, then let me know. I would really be interested in your findings. Steve Campbell -Original Message- From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:41 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition biggest concern for me would be to quarantine uploads and scan them for viruses. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
This should be handled by either the Server antivirus package or the Email server antivirus package. You place the file in a folder and set your antivirus software to scan that folder and delete file if contains virus. You then look to see if file exists in the folder after you place it there. Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango MDaemon Reseller Available for Web App. Developement -Original Message- From: steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:13 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition I have an upload module I built and am pondering this very situation. IF you get any great ideas on how to scan the files once they are upped, then let me know. I would really be interested in your findings. Steve Campbell -Original Message- From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:41 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition biggest concern for me would be to quarantine uploads and scan them for viruses. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
you just delete if it isn't recognized as an image. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Jul 1, 2005, at 8:41 AM, Roland Dumas wrote: biggest concern for me would be to quarantine uploads and scan them for viruses. __ __ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
Upload to /tmp/@USERREFERNCE Use an external command to run clamav against the file If clean, handle it, else delete. On Friday, July 1, 2005, at 09:13 AM, steve wrote: I have an upload module I built and am pondering this very situation. IF you get any great ideas on how to scan the files once they are upped, then let me know. I would really be interested in your findings. Steve Campbell -Original Message- From: Roland Dumas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 10:41 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition biggest concern for me would be to quarantine uploads and scan them for viruses. ___ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/35 - Release Date: 6/30/2005 ___ _ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
I will be running a photo competition for one of my largest clients and would appreciate some feedback from others who have don this sort of thing before. The client expected to have contestants send photos via email. I've suggested a web form with file upload instead but would be interested to know if and how well Witango's Email tags process an attachment. Secondly, I'm not entirely sure of the sort of capacity I require. They are expecting up to 10,000 entries per day for 10 days. Assuming people obey the rules (rolleyes) images shouldn't be larger than 200Kb. So that is about 2Gb per day but it will obviously have peaks at certain points. Are there algorithms for working out the bandwidth required. And I guess the last question is where can I find short term high bandwidth hosting for a Witango solution or should I look at co-location? Wayne Irvine Byte Services Pty Ltd http://www.byteserve.com.au/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph 02 9960 6099 Mob 0409 960 609 Fax 02 9960 6088 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting photo competition
We were approached by Brides magazine over a year ago to host a competition for pro wedding photographers, it was very successful, and since then have done several more, and 2 for Fuji, and working on one for Adobe. I think the link for one is still up: http://www.eventpix.com/bestofweddings/ (web design is not mine, I only architected the software) For the competition it seemed it would be easier to do a web form for image upload, instead of our usual system that requires desktop software, since there was only going to be 1 image per entry. When we started this, I set several requirements that had to be met in the development. Web form upload must be more robust, and secure than normal, and provide user feed back for upload (progress). Believe it or not, many pro photogs still use modems, and our largest uploads were to be 4 megs. By robust and secure, I refer to bugs in IIS 5 when images are uploaded through HTTP, and THERE MUST BE a way to not accept uploads over the maximum. Also, it had to be compatible with mac and windows, and IE and Mozilla flavors. Pro photogs are still about 30-35% mac. We did a lot of testing, and the bugs with HTTP upload were no longer present with IIS 6, and windows 2003. Under IIS 5, and 2000, a http upload would slowly take over the processor. The max upload issue was trickier. IMO, it is a very bad idea to just allow binary data to be uploaded by a form. A user could upload 100 meg file, and there is nothing you can do about it. Witango cannot check the size of an image before upload, and javascript cannot for security reasons also. So if you reject upload of image based on size with witango, you still accepted the whole file, and ate up all your bandwidth. Cuz witango does not get the file til upload is done, and wrapped up for witango. We looked for a third party solution, couldn't find, so started writing something in VB to accept the images, then we found abcupload5 .net edition by WebSupergoo. It is compatible with most browsers, shows an html based progress bar while uploading, and uses .NET, so allows a special setting that forces IIS to reject an upload if over a specific byte size. The file is rejected immediately, not after the transfer. I can testify that we successfully were able to modify the ASP .NET samples, and integrate with Witango so that witango received the file from the ASP .NET upload. It all works seemlessly. We were also able to modify the ASP code so that we could also accept reject file based on extension. During our first competition, I wrote an application to monitor drop folders and resize and prepare apps, and populate the images into blobs in the database. So the photographer and judges were able to view pictures within minutes of entry. I think I had the process on a 15 minute timer or something. For the second contest, based on feedback, we needed to make the image processing live. So that the user uploaded, and the image was instantly prepared and displayed for the photographer, so they could view as it would be on web before they entered. This is when I wrote Witango_cmd to interface with imagemagick. This also meant we could accept images from almost any format, since IM reads em all in. A system for judges to sign in and judge images was also setup. Basically, the most important aspects of the system, that made it successful, were the slick upload system, and the live image preparation. Lastly, I cannot stress enough how important it is to have a system that rejects oversized images. First, people make dumb mistakes, and accidentally grab the 50 meg psd file. Second, there are stupid malicious people out there that will use something like that to eat up your bandwidth and servers just for the hell of it. Take a look at abcupload5, the .NET edition, not ASP edition. Read about the Gigaupload technology ( I think that is what it was named ). The $500 price was well worth not having to write all that ourselves. I think the code for ABCUpload5 samples are written in C#, and not VB, so that may be an issue if you are not familiar with it. But if you can work your way around java, its pretty similar. -- Robert Garcia President - BigHead Technology VP Application Development - eventpix.com 13653 West Park Dr Magalia, Ca 95954 ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/ On Jun 30, 2005, at 6:12 PM, Wayne Irvine wrote: I will be running a photo competition for one of my largest clients and would appreciate some feedback from others who have don this sort of thing before. The client expected to have contestants send photos via email. I've suggested a web form with file upload instead but would be interested to know if and how well Witango's Email tags process an attachment. Secondly, I'm not entirely sure of the sort of
RE: Witango-Talk: Hosting
Yes , I am ? Too late? Steve Campbell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2005 12:46 PM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Witango-Talk: Hosting I have a referral from a perpective client that needs hosting for an existing site. Currently, I believe the site is on Linux with MySQL database. I told him I would get some referrals for him. Anyone interested? You can conatact me off the list if you like with your contact info and I will forward the info to the client. Phone would be great so he can call you. Thanks TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.8 - Release Date: 5/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 5/17/2005 TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting
Thanks to those who responded. I have sent your info to the client. I am leaving it up to him to decide when and who to call. Hopefully he will call all of you so he can make an informed decision. I have a referral from a perpective client that needs hosting for an existing site. Currently, I believe the site is on Linux with MySQL database. I told him I would get some referrals for him. Anyone interested? You can conatact me off the list if you like with your contact info and I will forward the info to the client. Phone would be great so he can call you. Thanks TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Hosting
I have a referral from a perpective client that needs hosting for an existing site. Currently, I believe the site is on Linux with MySQL database. I told him I would get some referrals for him. Anyone interested? You can conatact me off the list if you like with your contact info and I will forward the info to the client. Phone would be great so he can call you. Thanks TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
Witango-Talk: Hosting in UK
Is there anyone doing hosting in UK that would be experienced with load balancing and could offer services that would scale well to what could be a large volume client? -- Dan Stein Digital Software Solutions 799 Evergreen Circle Telford PA 18969 Land: 215-799-0192 Cell: 610-256-2843 Fax 413-410-9682 FMP, WiTango, EDI,SQL 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dss-db.com When you are born, you cry and those who love you rejoice. And if you live your life as you should, when you die, you rejoice and those who love you cry. TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
RE: Witango-Talk: Hosting
Brian, I took a job as Business Systems Analyst at DRS (www.drs.com) back in October and had to suggest another provider for the clients I had at that time. After doing some research I settled on NCOL (Ian Daniels's group) and suggested to my clients, and to Ian, that they contact each other. Since I had these clients for a number of years I was a little apprehensive as to how they would be treated and how they would be supported by a company on the other side of the continent. I've contacted my clients several times since they went over to NCOL (heavy Witango and SQL programming) and they are quite satisfied. They did not experience any disruption of service during the move due to great planning on NCOL's part and they are receiving great service, much better than I could have provided working full time. You want to work with a first class organization, check out Ian's group. Sincerely, Gene Wolf Business Systems Analyst DRS Optronics, Inc. 2330 Commerce Park Drive Palm Bay, Florida 32905 Phone: 321-309-0685 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
RE: Witango-Talk: Hosting
Hey Brian... we like to think we're pretty "good.!"And yes, we have SQL Server. Let me also say that Robert Shubert is an "excellent" hosting provider !!! You'll find him at www.tronics.com You can reach me off-list at the coordinates below ... Ian Daniel, A.Sc.T., PresidentNew Creation Consulting Information Management Inc.# 701, 889 West Pender Street, Vancouver, BC V6C 3B2 Canada==[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ncol.com http://witango.ncol.com Ph: (604)806-6265 ext 310 Fax: (604) 806-6269 -Original Message-From: Brian Humes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Anybody know of a good Witango hosting provider (preferably with SQLServer)?Thanks! TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
Re: Witango-Talk: Hosting
Where ? In Europe - USA - Korean ??? Pls. name a location. For Europe see www.witango.net regards Daniel - Original Message - From: Brian Humes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:49 PM Subject: Witango-Talk: Hosting Anybody know of a good Witango hosting provider (preferably with SQL Server)? Thanks! ___ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
RE: Witango-Talk: Hosting
The People at NCOL.COM Ian and David can help you there Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com Authorized Witango Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/WitangoGoodies.htm Authorized MDaemon Mail Server Reseller http://www.pcforge.com/AltN.htm -Original Message- From: Brian Humes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Witango-Talk: Hosting Anybody know of a good Witango hosting provider (preferably with SQL Server)? Thanks! ___ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body TO UNSUBSCRIBE: send a plain text/US ASCII email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe witango-talk in the message body
