Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: WixStdBA launches 32-bit msiexec.exe for a 64-bit MsiPackage

2014-11-14 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
So something is checking the platform setting on the dll ?, With VS2012 and
VS2013, I'm getting problems if I start to set platform to anything else
than anycpu on dll's now, what gives?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Phil Wilson phildgwil...@gmail.com wrote:

 To expand on what Rob said, it all just works. On an x64 system the
 MSI service will be 64-bit. If you have a 32-bit CA you'll get a
 32-bit msiexec process launched to host it. If you have another CA
 that requires impersonation, you'll see another msiexec process
 running impersonated. The error you're seeing is nothing to do with
 the with this architecture. It's just invalid for a 32-bit process to
 access 64-bit modules. You are enumerating processes or you have a
 process id that's 64-bit and you're using it from 32-bit code to
 access the process? As Jacob says, if you're on a 64-bit system and
 you want to do whatever you're doing, make a 64-bit version of your
 Dll.
 ---
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 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:35 AM, John Cooper jocoo...@jackhenry.com
 wrote:
  That is the technique I use and it is necessary when access 64-bit-only
 file system locations and the like.
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 10:32 AM
  To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
  Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: WixStdBA launches 32-bit msiexec.exe
 for a 64-bit MsiPackage
 
  What is the bitness of your CA DLL?  Just a stab in the dark but you
 might need to have it compiled twice, once as 32 and once as 64, and have
 the respective MSI package use the right CA DLL.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@firegiant.com]
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:53 AM
  To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
  Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: WixStdBA launches 32-bit msiexec.exe
 for a 64-bit MsiPackage
 
  Custom actions are hosted by Windows Installer in a separate custom
 action host process based on custom action type.
 
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 http://www.firegiant.com/
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ryan Waller [mailto:rwal...@microsoft.com]
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:43 AM
  To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
  Subject: Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: WixStdBA launches 32-bit msiexec.exe
 for a 64-bit MsiPackage
 
  Yes, Orca Summary shows it with Platform x64.
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Shared component between features

2014-11-11 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
I did it like that earlier, no problems at all.

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:09 PM, pezmannen pezman...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I have a product that consists of two features. Web and a Windows service.
 They share some dll's that are gacced. Is it ok to inlude the
 gac-components
 in both features? They usually are installed together. It seems to work but
 what is best practice?

 It now looks something like this

 Feature1
 ComponentRef web
 ComponentRef gacmydll
 /Feature1

 Feature2
 ComponentRef windowsServer
 ComponentRef gacmydll
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Re: [WiX-users] How to silently install embedded SQL

2014-11-03 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Isn't private deployment an option for this?
http://erikej.blogspot.no/2011/02/using-sql-server-compact-40-with-wpf.html
http://erikej.blogspot.no/2011/02/using-sql-server-compact-40-with.html


On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Rainer Queck rainer.qu...@qutronic.de
wrote:

 Hi John

 thank you very much for your hints.
 I tried /quiet only and but no success.
 May be the missing flag to acknowledge the license is the problem. How
 would I apply that?

 Thanks
 Rainer

 Am 03.11.2014 15:24, schrieb John Cooper:
  1) it is unusual to pass both /quiet and /passive -- the usual pattern
 is /quiet (no UI) XOR /passive (progress dialog only);
 
  2) I don't know about CE as I no longer use it, but for LocalDB or
 SqlExpress there's a flag you have to set that takes the place of
 acknowledging the license in the UI -- you may need that here;
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Rainer Queck [mailto:rainer.qu...@qutronic.de]
  Sent: Monday, November 3, 2014 8:17 AM
  To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [WiX-users] How to silently install embedded SQL
 
  Hi
 
  I would like do do a unattended install of embedded sql server.
  Here is how I am doing it:
  Fragment
 
PackageGroup Id=EmbeddedSql
  ExePackage
InstallCommand=/quiet /passive
RepairCommand=/quiet /passive
UninstallCommand=/uninstall /quiet /passive
 
 SourceFile=D:\Daten\Softwareentwicklung\Projekte\BfpNetR2\3_Entwicklung\Source\Main\3rdParty\Installs\SSCERuntime_x64-DEU.exe
InstallCondition=VersionNT64/
 
  ExePackage
InstallCommand=/quiet /passive
RepairCommand=/quiet /passive
UninstallCommand=/uninstall /quiet /passive
 
 SourceFile=D:\Daten\Softwareentwicklung\Projekte\BfpNetR2\3_Entwicklung\Source\Main\3rdParty\Installs\SSCERuntime_x86-DEU.exe
InstallCondition=NOT VersionNT64/
/PackageGroup
 
  /Fragment
 
  But the installation fails. The MSI Installer window pops up showing me
 the possible option, among which I see /quiet and /passive... which I
 am using.
  The Log contains:
  [073C:026C][2014-11-03T05:58:51]i301: Applying execute package:
  SSCERuntime_x86_DEU.exe, action: Install, path: C:\ProgramData\Package
 Cache\EC420A4D2962E89796B7E7382BC0DCC944625052\SSCERuntime_x86-DEU.exe,
  arguments: 'C:\ProgramData\Package
  Cache\EC420A4D2962E89796B7E7382BC0DCC944625052\SSCERuntime_x86-DEU.exe
  /quiet /passive'
  [073C:026C][2014-11-03T06:11:36]e000: Error 0x80070667: Process returned
  error: 0x667
  [073C:026C][2014-11-03T06:11:36]e000: Error 0x80070667: Failed to
 execute EXE package.
  [0F48:0D08][2014-11-03T06:11:36]e000: Error 0x80070667: Failed to
 configure per-machine EXE package.
  [0F48:0D08][2014-11-03T06:11:36]i319: Applied execute package:
  SSCERuntime_x86_DEU.exe, result: 0x80070667, restart: None
  [0F48:0D08][2014-11-03T06:11:36]e000: Error 0x80070667: Failed to
 execute EXE package.
 
  How can I get the SQLCE installed unattended?
 
  Thanks for help!
 
  Regards
  Rainer
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX v3.9 released

2014-11-03 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
I versioncontrol all my files, but then again, I don't use visualstudio or
some fancy tool for wix authoring, but beeing able to go back and see what
changes one have done are invaluable.
Git, subversion, and you will have control.



On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Phill Hogland phogl...@rimage.com wrote:

 I also congratulate everyone for the wix 3.9 release.

 In my decades of working with Installshield, it would create a backup of
 the
 project file, but more times than not also introduced breaking changes that
 prevented my projects from compiling until I tracked down all of the
 changes.

 In my work with wix from 3.7, 38, and 3.9 I have not experienced those
 issues.  Maybe it would be helpful to provide more details on what issues
 you have encountered, including which version the project was at prior to
 the update.



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Re: [WiX-users] perMachine optional shortcut creation...

2014-10-31 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
But for perMachine installation, isn't HKCU wrong?, it kinda works though.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Phill Hogland phogl...@rimage.com wrote:

 I use something like this (without the condition, but that could be added,
 in
 which case I would also make the component transitive):
   Fragment
 Component Id=myShortcut Directory=aDirId
   Shortcut Id=myShortcut Target=[DirId]file.ext
 Directory=MyMenuFolder Name=Name WorkingDirectory=DirId
 xmlns:wix=http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi; /
   RegistryValue Root=HKCU Key=SOFTWARE\Company\product
 Name=myShortcut_someValue Value=[ProductVersion] Type=string
 KeyPath=yes /
 /Component
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Re: [WiX-users] perMachine optional shortcut creation...

2014-10-31 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
What is the name of the alluser desktopfolder then?, when I do this, I wrap
it into an directory-element, which contains an component, and then the
shortcut, and the shortcut it self goes to the alluser desktop because
perMachine is set.
If the registryvalue which is required for removing it, is then pointing to
the per-user desktopfolder, then something is not quite right so how is
this solveable?


On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Rob Mensching r...@firegiant.com wrote:

 DesktopFolder is a per-user location.

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 No.  It smells wrong but that is what you need to do for a per-machine
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Re: [WiX-users] Automatically 'harvest' files in VS 2013

2014-10-30 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Are you thinking about the project output thingy with votive?
http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/votive/votive_project_references.html



On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Brian Enderle bria...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am referring to the task of harvesting files and creating a WXS file that
 contains a list of the files to be installed.  I don't have a problem with
 doing the harvest as a BeforeBuild action but if there is an easier way I
 would like to know how.

 Brian

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 On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 11:48 AM, John Cooper jocoo...@jackhenry.com
 wrote:

  Possibly.  I am referring to the Task to be clear.
 
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  Is the discussion possibly confusing the use of the HarvestDirectory
  target (called in the Wix build process) and the HarvestDirectory task
  (which I also call from a custom target which the BeforeBuild target
  depends on, as some blogs suggest)?
 
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers in Path?

2014-09-16 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Hm, I added those in the same propertygroup as where OutputPath and
IntermediateOutputPath is set, but nothing happens, it generates stil the
same names
Where are those properties listed?, like what is avalable?

In this doc:
http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/overview/light.html
I cant even find the parameter that is fed to light for these files even?,
like these parameters:

 -contentsfile obj\myprojectname.wixproj.BindContentsFileListnb-NO.txt
 -outputsfile obj\myprojectname.wixproj.BindOutputsFileListnb-NO.txt
 -builtoutputsfile
obj\myprojectname.wixproj.BindBuiltOutputsFileListnb-NO.txt

and in the msbuild log, that is the only place I see those names listed..



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 PS: I just remembered, you can change the name of those files in your
 .wixpproj by setting Properties like BindContentsFile, BindOutputsFile, etc.

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 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers
 in Path?

 We could make those binder data file paths shorter in WiX v4.0.

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Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers in Path?

2014-09-16 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
In the wix2010.targets I found CleanFile defined, so I could remap one
file, but further on I found this:

ReadLinesFromFile
File=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindOutputsFileExtension)
  Output TaskParameter=Lines ItemName=FileWrites/
/ReadLinesFromFile

CreateItem
Include=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindContentsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindContentsFileExtension);$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindOutputsFileExtension);$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindBuiltOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindBuiltOutputsFileExtension)

  Output TaskParameter=Include ItemName=FileWrites /
/CreateItem


ReadLinesFromFile
File=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindContentsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindContentsFileExtension)
  Output TaskParameter=Lines ItemName=_BindInputs /
/ReadLinesFromFile

ReadLinesFromFile
File=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindBuiltOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindBuiltOutputsFileExtension)
  Output TaskParameter=Lines ItemName=_BindBuiltOutputs /
/ReadLinesFromFile

So those seems to be built on the fly, instead of getting assigned to an
property as is done with CleanFile..

Same with the Light task inside there:


BindContentsFile=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindContentsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindContentsFileExtension)

BindOutputsFile=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindOutputsFileExtension)

BindBuiltOutputsFile=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindBuiltOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindBuiltOutputsFileExtension)






On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Asbjørn Mikkelsen asbj...@neslekkim.net
wrote:

 Hm, I added those in the same propertygroup as where OutputPath and
 IntermediateOutputPath is set, but nothing happens, it generates stil the
 same names
 Where are those properties listed?, like what is avalable?

 In this doc:
 http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/overview/light.html
 I cant even find the parameter that is fed to light for these files even?,
 like these parameters:

  -contentsfile obj\myprojectname.wixproj.BindContentsFileListnb-NO.txt
  -outputsfile obj\myprojectname.wixproj.BindOutputsFileListnb-NO.txt
  -builtoutputsfile
 obj\myprojectname.wixproj.BindBuiltOutputsFileListnb-NO.txt

 and in the msbuild log, that is the only place I see those names listed..



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 PS: I just remembered, you can change the name of those files in your
 .wixpproj by setting Properties like BindContentsFile, BindOutputsFile, etc.

 _
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 http://www.firegiant.com/


 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@firegiant.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 12:42 PM
 To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers
 in Path?

 We could make those binder data file paths shorter in WiX v4.0.

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Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers in Path?

2014-09-16 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
ah, that worked fine like this:

CleanFilec/CleanFile
BindContentsFilePrefixb1/BindContentsFilePrefix
BindOutputsFilePrefixb2/BindOutputsFilePrefix
BindBuiltOutputsFilePrefixb3/BindBuiltOutputsFilePrefix


On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Rob Mensching r...@firegiant.com wrote:

 Ahh, I was probably looking at WiX v4.0 targets.

 At least you can control the prefix in WiX v3.x targets.
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 From: Asbjørn Mikkelsen [mailto:asbj...@neslekkim.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:20 AM
 To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers
 in Path?

 In the wix2010.targets I found CleanFile defined, so I could remap one
 file, but further on I found this:

 ReadLinesFromFile

 File=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindOutputsFileExtension)
   Output TaskParameter=Lines ItemName=FileWrites/
 /ReadLinesFromFile

 CreateItem

 Include=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindContentsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindContentsFileExtension);$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindOutputsFileExtension);$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindBuiltOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindBuiltOutputsFileExtension)

   Output TaskParameter=Include ItemName=FileWrites /
 /CreateItem


 ReadLinesFromFile

 File=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindContentsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindContentsFileExtension)
   Output TaskParameter=Lines ItemName=_BindInputs /
 /ReadLinesFromFile

 ReadLinesFromFile

 File=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindBuiltOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindBuiltOutputsFileExtension)
   Output TaskParameter=Lines ItemName=_BindBuiltOutputs /
 /ReadLinesFromFile

 So those seems to be built on the fly, instead of getting assigned to an
 property as is done with CleanFile..

 Same with the Light task inside there:



 BindContentsFile=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindContentsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindContentsFileExtension)


 BindOutputsFile=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindOutputsFileExtension)


 BindBuiltOutputsFile=$(IntermediateOutputPath)$(BindBuiltOutputsFilePrefix)%(CultureGroup.Identity)$(BindBuiltOutputsFileExtension)


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Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers in Path?

2014-09-15 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Visual Studio?, What have that to do with this?
MSBuild is building the project, if MSBuild also have an issue, that's
another thing, this is in the linking phase, not during authoring of the
wixfiles.. And who is using visualstudio for authoring wix projects
anyhow?, absolutely no help in using VS for that, notepad++ is way better
(or any other editor for that matter.)




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 The Visual Studio Limit is still 260.  I don't think that Wix should
 go greater than 260 when the IDE has issues...

 Carter

 Quoting neslekkim asbj...@neslekkim.net:

  I thought Windows supports more than 260 characters by now?
 
  According to this:
 
 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa365247(v=vs.85).aspx#maxpath
 
  We run into path problems way to often with this..
 
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers in Path?

2014-09-15 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
So, if Windows Installer api does not support it, does that mean that Light
would not work?

on the workstations where we develop and build, it works ok, but on the
buildserver, since it's scoping the output from versioncontrol for each
build, it crashes from time to time, very annoying, and this is 2014..

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rob Mensching r...@firegiant.com wrote:

 Win32 pretty consistently supports that syntax. .NET Framework pretty
 consistently does not. IIRC, Windows Installer API never supports it. IOW,
 we are mostly SOL.

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 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:15 AM
 To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers
 in Path?

 Does prepending the path with  \\?\ help out at all?


 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/bclteam/archive/2007/02/13/long-paths-in-net-part-1-of-3-kim-hamilton.aspx


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Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers in Path?

2014-09-15 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Jenkins, we have shortened several times now, also customize the wixproj
file so intermediate files are going to obj instead of obj\Release, and
so on.
But it doesnt help that Wix creates those very long-named intermediate
files, 65 characters for one file, and we have already shortened the
projectname so far we can go.

Is it possible to disable incremental linking/building on the buildserver?,
I guess it's there for speeding up when you compile several times?

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wrote:

 What are you using for a CI engine?  Jenkins and CruiseControl.NET allow
 for doing custom workspace roots that can help shorten your path lengths.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Asbjørn Mikkelsen [mailto:asbj...@neslekkim.net]
 Sent: September-15-14 11:01 AM
 To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers
 in Path?

 So, if Windows Installer api does not support it, does that mean that
 Light would not work?

 on the workstations where we develop and build, it works ok, but on the
 buildserver, since it's scoping the output from versioncontrol for each
 build, it crashes from time to time, very annoying, and this is 2014..

 On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Rob Mensching r...@firegiant.com wrote:

  Win32 pretty consistently supports that syntax. .NET Framework pretty
  consistently does not. IIRC, Windows Installer API never supports it.
  IOW, we are mostly SOL.
 
  _
   Short replies here. Complete answers over there:
  http://www.firegiant.com/
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Tunney, Stephen [mailto:stephen.tun...@nuance.com]
  Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 7:15 AM
  To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
  Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260
  characthers in Path?
 
  Does prepending the path with  \\?\ help out at all?
 
 
  http://blogs.msdn.com/b/bclteam/archive/2007/02/13/long-paths-in-net-p
  art-1-of-3-kim-hamilton.aspx
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers in Path?

2014-09-15 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
As mentioned earlier, it's theintermediate files, in the obj\release folder
files are names as
projectfilenamewithextension.Bind...FileListlanguagecode.txt for
instance
In one project that gave me an filename for one of the files tha tis 76
characters long.
Yes, the projectfilename with exension is 46 characters, but still, if
these filenames could be shorter, it could be great, but I can see that
these filenames are usefull for debugging etc
The wixobj files in the same folder, they are on the other hand, short and
nice.


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 What sort of filenames are the issue? We may be able to generate them
 differently depending on what they are.

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 Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 8:52 AM
 To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] LGHT0284: Support for more than 260 characthers
 in Path?

 Jenkins, we have shortened several times now, also customize the wixproj
 file so intermediate files are going to obj instead of obj\Release, and
 so on.
 But it doesnt help that Wix creates those very long-named intermediate
 files, 65 characters for one file, and we have already shortened the
 projectname so far we can go.

 Is it possible to disable incremental linking/building on the
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Re: [WiX-users] Multiple entries in ARP

2014-09-11 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
ok, strange.. we change the last number on our bundles, but when installing
new build over an exisiting, gives us two bundlesetupis in ARP..
Have been comparing other setups, also the wixbundle, but can't see what is
different.
There have been mentioned Bundle/RelatedBundle, but the wix-setup does not
use that, so I'm not sure why this happens (using WixStdBa)

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 Bundles use all four. No idea why Windows Installer chose to be different
 with three.

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 Does it use 3 or 4 digits?, ie, 1.0.0 or 1.0.0.0 ?



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Re: [WiX-users] Cannot view RootView.xaml file in visual studio 2010

2014-08-27 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Hm, the wix.zip files that are on wixtoolset.org is names
wix32-binaries.zip etc?


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:49 PM, linos lino...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Rob,

 My mistake.  I should have been more descriptive with my wix.zip
 reference.
 I was referring to the wix-16a8b5dbf828f92e28138ce3c9ee852affeaa1ef.zip.

 Just curious, since I have you attention, but what is the preferred method
 to using the existing wixBA?
 Is it first creating a new solution in visual studio then adding the wixBA
 and core projects? Or what I mentioned above in my previous post in order
 to
 get things to work?  I would like to prevent others from having this bad
 experience.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WiX-users] Cannot view RootView.xaml file in visual studio 2010

2014-08-27 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
So what would be an good startingpoint?, since this is not very good
documentet, some good startingpoints would be very nice.. As of now, wixba
will be an starting point.. :)


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 Sounds like you are getting snapshots of the source code from GitHub.
 Usually, if you want the source code I'd say just use git to clone the repo.

 The WixBA also isn't designed to be a starting point. It's good as a
 reference codebase but the source code certainly isn't packaged up as a
 starter kit.

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 2010

 Hi Rob,

 My mistake.  I should have been more descriptive with my wix.zip
 reference.
 I was referring to the wix-16a8b5dbf828f92e28138ce3c9ee852affeaa1ef.zip.

 Just curious, since I have you attention, but what is the preferred method
 to using the existing wixBA?
 Is it first creating a new solution in visual studio then adding the wixBA
 and core projects? Or what I mentioned above in my previous post in order
 to get things to work?  I would like to prevent others from having this bad
 experience.

 Thanks,
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Re: [WiX-users] Options for pausing the download and installation in wix custom BootStrapper

2014-08-26 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
What if you do something clever in OnResolveSource?, it looks like the
WixBA does something for retrying downloads there, I don't understand how
it works, but...


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 Hi,

 Can you please tell which is the correct event in BootstrapperInstallEvent
 to pause the download and also please explain the process to pause the
 download ?

 Thanks in advance

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Re: [WiX-users] Customizing BA for Burn/Bundles

2014-08-25 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Would that be the code that is here?
https://github.com/wixtoolset/wix3/tree/develop/src/ext/BalExtension
mba = WixBA?

I was hoping that one could use the same formats for the squences,
languages, and ui definitions as one do for pure msi, but that is probably
run by something else that is not part of wix?



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wrote:

 Both WixStdBA (C) and the WixBA (C#) have source code available to learn
 from. Since everyone wants a different look/feel and work flow, the bundle
 customization is often left up to a custom BA.  For a vanilla install,
 WixStdBA does a good job, but injecting new pages isn't possible without
 coding. If you are using .Net for your application, I'd strongly suggest
 starting with a C# BA.  This will allow you to do a full blown .Net UI,
 with all the customization you want, and then just property drive your
 MSI's.

 The second option would be to modify the Options page of WixStdBA to
 include some check boxes for your feature selection, but I don't think that
 would give you the optimal workflow that you're expecting (a user would
 have to click Options before hitting install).

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 I'm creating lots of small msi's so I can modularize my installation
 package, and have been using the bundle feature (Burn?), to make an Exe
 that can install everything.

 The problem with this is the UI.. I have somewhat managed to make UI in
 the MSI, but I cannot use that UI, and need to make an UI in the Bundle
 package instead.
 It seems like I cannot use any the ui features that have been aquired for
 MSI, so Have to relearn everything in an totally different language for
 bundles.. Where can I find docoumentation on this format?, the Theme files
 seems to be kinda easy to manipulate, but i cannot find any information
 about sequence?, or adding other pages?
 What I need, is to implement some form of featureselection, not many
 selections, but a few, does it exist any bundle projects out there other
 than the wix installer (which is just a few pictures to click on), that
 show how to do this?

 Or is the idea that everyone need to make their own Bootstrapper
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Re: [WiX-users] Customizing BA for Burn/Bundles

2014-08-25 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
ah, thanks.

When I'm using this element:
BootstrapperApplicationRef
Id='WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.RtfLicense'
I'm using the C++ one then?, does it exist any examples that uses this
WixBA to get an startingpoint on how I can reference it from wxs?





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wrote:

 The MSI UI is limited by windows installer.  The BA UI as no such
 limitations.

 https://github.com/wixtoolset/wix3/tree/develop/src/Setup/WixBA is the BA
 for Wix

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 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:20 AM
 To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Customizing BA for Burn/Bundles

 Would that be the code that is here?
 https://github.com/wixtoolset/wix3/tree/develop/src/ext/BalExtension
 mba = WixBA?

 I was hoping that one could use the same formats for the squences,
 languages, and ui definitions as one do for pure msi, but that is probably
 run by something else that is not part of wix?



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 wrote:

  Both WixStdBA (C) and the WixBA (C#) have source code available to
  learn from. Since everyone wants a different look/feel and work flow,
  the bundle customization is often left up to a custom BA.  For a
  vanilla install, WixStdBA does a good job, but injecting new pages
  isn't possible without coding. If you are using .Net for your
  application, I'd strongly suggest starting with a C# BA.  This will
  allow you to do a full blown .Net UI, with all the customization you
  want, and then just property drive your MSI's.
 
  The second option would be to modify the Options page of WixStdBA to
  include some check boxes for your feature selection, but I don't think
  that would give you the optimal workflow that you're expecting (a user
  would have to click Options before hitting install).
 
  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 9:55 AM
  To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: [WiX-users] Customizing BA for Burn/Bundles
 
  I'm creating lots of small msi's so I can modularize my installation
  package, and have been using the bundle feature (Burn?), to make an
  Exe that can install everything.
 
  The problem with this is the UI.. I have somewhat managed to make UI
  in the MSI, but I cannot use that UI, and need to make an UI in the
  Bundle package instead.
  It seems like I cannot use any the ui features that have been aquired
  for MSI, so Have to relearn everything in an totally different
  language for bundles.. Where can I find docoumentation on this
  format?, the Theme files seems to be kinda easy to manipulate, but i
  cannot find any information about sequence?, or adding other pages?
  What I need, is to implement some form of featureselection, not many
  selections, but a few, does it exist any bundle projects out there
  other than the wix installer (which is just a few pictures to click
  on), that show how to do this?
 
  Or is the idea that everyone need to make their own Bootstrapper
  application?
 
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Customizing BA for Burn/Bundles

2014-08-25 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Great!, thanks, this looks very usefull


On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Phill Hogland phogl...@rimage.com wrote:

 Here is a tutorial on using a mba:

 http://bryanpjohnston.com/2012/09/28/custom-wix-managed-bootstrapper-application/

 The WixBA is used in the wixtoolset setup.  So unlike the WixStdBA, it is
 not packaged as a module that can be included in your project.  It is
 specific to the needs of the Wixtoolset setup.  But it is still a good
 working example of how you can write your own mba.



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Re: [WiX-users] How does WiX auto-generate GUIDs?

2014-08-24 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Read the last paragraph here:
http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/howtos/general/generate_guids.html


On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 2:29 AM, Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Currently I'm using explicit GUIDs for all my components (except
 harvested ones). It would make my code much simpler if I used Id=*
 and let WiX auto-generate them. The documentation says the generated
 GUIDs are stable, but I feel like I would trust them better if I
 understood how they are generated under the hood :)

 Is there documentation on how they are generated? What changes to the
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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] Re: V C++ 2013 redist detection

2014-08-15 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
The point is that vcredist installs side by side, lots of applications are
dependant on it, so it shouldn't be removed, but there is newer a problem
installing one, even if there is one or many from before.



On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Jeremiahf jeremi...@gmail.com wrote:

 In fact, I recommend against using any search for the VC runtime. They
 use the WixStandardBootstrapperApplication/@SuppressDowngradeFailure
 option, so you can safely always chain your desired VC runtime version.
 If it's outdated, nothing happens.

 So this is def a bad way to handle this even though the application getting
 installed depends on it?


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  Thanks guys but I need to detect if it is installed through an msi and
 not
  a bootstrapper. It also has to be the x86 version.
  I was trying to detect it through the registry as I have done for
 previous
  versions of V C++ Redists. Any idea's?
 
  Sorry for the lack of info in my initial email.
 
  Thank you again,
 
  J
 
 
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX burn: how to change 'WixBundleName' in bootstrapper application?

2014-08-14 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Bumdle != Bundle ?


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, linos lino...@hotmail.com wrote:

 In my bundle element I have an attribute Name, I would like to edit this
 during an install after a user has selected which application they would
 like to install.  How can I accomplish this task?  I tried the following
 below, but no luck.
 Bundle Name=!(loc.WixBundleName)) Version=1.0.0.0
 Manufacturer=Testing UpgradeCode=C82A383C-751A-43B8-90BF-A250F7BC2863

 I took the name WixBundleName from the following link.

 http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/bundle/bundle_built_in_variables.html

 I received the following error...
 Error   6   The localization variable !(loc.WixBundleName) is
 unknown.  Please
 ensure the variable is defined


 Also, in my BA class file, I have the following to edit this variable.
 this.Bootstrapper.Engine.StringVariables[WixBumdleName] =
 customProductName;

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Re: [WiX-users] Burn bundle with No UI for Bootstrapper Application

2014-08-13 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
I would guess that one reason could be that the gui seems to be very
different in the BA compared to MSI, when using Wix, you have good ui
libraries for MSI, but almost nothing for BA, as far as I have found.
And what is there, is very much diffent, atleast that is my expression
right now, doing my rounds with BA that installs lot of MSI's.



On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Hoover, Jacob jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com
wrote:

 Possible yes, advisable no.  If you are using burn, create a custom BA (or
 use WixStdBA).

 One of the core reasons for burn (besides chaining multiple prerequisites,
 on the fly downloads of needed files, etc) was to provide a single unified
 installation experience. While some minimal effort has been done to support
 it, it isn't the recommended path. What I would ask is why you need to
 display an internal UI on uninstall, and then ask why you can't ask for
 that same information from your BA and property drive your MSI.

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Harrison [mailto:robert.harri...@citrix.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 1:03 PM
 To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn bundle with No UI for Bootstrapper
 Application

 Sorry, I forgot the subject in original email.

 I have a burn bundle that uses the built-in WiX Bootstrappre UI. Is it
 possible to silence this UI on uninstall and only display the UI of one the
 MSI packages? Or maybe have a bootstrapper application with No UI?

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 11:48 AM
 To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
 Subject: [WiX-users] (no subject)

 I have a burn bundle that uses the built-in WiX Bootstrappre UI. Is it
 possible to silence this UI on uninstall and only display the UI of one the
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Re: [WiX-users] Making Heat output binder variables

2014-07-06 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
I don't know what you means with binder variables, but we added this
parameter to heat:

PreprocessorVariable=var.SourceRootFolder
and that gives us this in the file element:
File Id=xxx KeyPath=yes
Source=$(var.SourceRootFolder)\bin\Spring.Services.dll /




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 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: [WiX-users] Making Heat output binder variables

 How do I make heat output !(bindpath.foo) variables in the File/@Source
 attributes?

 No matter what I try, I get $(bindpath.foo). I only get !() if I use a
 variable that starts with wix. like -var wix.foo. The -wixvar option
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Re: [WiX-users] Torch output, how to force wixmst XML output instead of CAB

2014-06-13 Thread Asbjørn Mikkelsen
Americans don't notice this, but the Norwegian language have some letters
in ASCII, æøå, and those render ok in normal ascii files, but if the file
is UTF-8 they are encoded as unicode in the files (16bit), whereas the rest
of the text in the file is 8bit.


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Rob Mensching r...@firegiant.com wrote:

 I always get this mixed up but I thought that ASCII was basically a subset
 of ANSI and UTF-8 and they all look the same (unless you write a BOM) until
 you use non-ASCII characters. The grand majority of internal WiX goo is
 ASCII without a BOM so it all looks the same...

 I think Joel agrees with my memory (
 http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html):

 This has the neat side effect that English text looks
 exactly the same in UTF-8 as it did in ASCII, so
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 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Torch output, how to force wixmst XML output
 instead of CAB

 Also, I have been looking at this file in more detail.

 The file itself is encoded with ANSI, but the XML header tag states that
 the XML is in UTF-8.  Is this intentional?

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Torch output, how to force wixmst XML output
 instead of CAB

 Speaking of evil things...  might I make a suggestion that two files be
 output?

 TransformX.wixmst (XML file)
 TransformX.wixmst.cab (paired cab file)

 This would be super ideal and would help keep separation of concerns for
 each file sane as well.

 Or would that break too much stuff?  Can I add a command line argument to
 split these things up?  Would anyone be opposed to that?
 
 From: Bob Arnson [b...@joyofsetup.com]
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 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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 On 6/12/2014 3:40 PM, Tunney, Stephen wrote:
  I had posted this question earlier but I guess it got lost in the
  piles of emails going out to your adoring fans ;)
 No, I'm just busy. :)

  In my torch command I have -xi -xo set, and I'm still getting a cab file
 with a .wixmst extension?  How do I force this to be the expected XML file?
  What causes the conversion to a cab file in this case?
 If the output contains a file, it's stored as an XML file with a .cab at
 the beginning. There's no option to force WiX to not store the files in the
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