Re: [WiX-users] Creating a bootstrap application and need a more simple UI

2013-02-11 Thread The Ouizard
Doesn't the Getting Started portion of the WiX Tutorial 
(http://wix.tramontana.co.hu/tutorial/getting-started) show how to make a
simple UI-less installer?


-Original Message-
From: joshh [mailto:joshuadeanh...@gmail.com] 
Sent: February 11, 2013 14:36
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Creating a bootstrap application and need a more simple UI

I am creating an installer and need to install a few prereqs and one of two 
applications depending on what OS they are using.

The default UI seems more complex than I need.

I just want the bootstrapper to start installing the applications and not show 
any dialog.  (One dialog is ok if it can have a
simple message stating that the solution and all the prereqs are about to be 
installed.  Then just have an install button.)

I don't see a simple way of doing this other than possibly creating a custom 
BootstrapperApplication.  

How best should I go about solving this problem?



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Re: [WiX-users] Win 8 Tile from wix

2013-02-04 Thread The Ouizard
I don't know much about Windows 8, but isn't the Start Screen basically like 
the Start Menu, such that if you put any shortcuts as
you normally would in the Start Menu, they'll automagically show up as tiles?

Alain

-Original Message-
From: rafal1000 [mailto:rafal1...@poczta.onet.pl] 
Sent: February 4, 2013 08:58
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Win 8 Tile from wix

Hi,
Is it possible with current (3.7 version) to create a tile in Windows 8 that my 
application will be accessible from the tile Start
page of Win8 ? 
If yes can you please provide some examples. 

thanks indeed
Rafal

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[WiX-users] Set font color in WiXUIExtension UIs

2013-01-31 Thread The Ouizard
I've posted this twice already with no response; does no one have any idea how 
to solve this?

It doesn't seem outlandish to want to support users who don't use the default 
display configuration. Setting/overriding a font color
seems like it should be a simple and basic thing, but I haven't found anything 
in the documentation, the mailing list archives, or
through searches on how to do it.

If this truly isn't possible, maybe it should be posted as a feature request?

-Original Message-
From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: January 17, 2013 17:26
To: 'wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: Text accessibility

How can I use the provided WiXUIExtension interfaces (such as WiXUI_Mondo or 
WiXUI_Minimal) but change the text colour to force it
to be black?

Context:

Some users set their Personalise display settings to high-contrast white text 
on black background. In the provided WiX installer
UIs, the result is white text (taking the system setting, I assume), and 
putting it on the default white background, making the text
illegible.

So it seems the simplest solution would be to purposefully make the text black 
no matter what, so it is always legible on the white
background. Yes, this will annoy said users, but not as much as not being able 
to read the installer text at all. A second, more
elegant but more complicated, solution would be to somehow detect the system's 
default font colour, and set the background to the
opposite.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.


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Re: [WiX-users] Set font color in WiXUIExtension UIs

2013-01-31 Thread The Ouizard
Thanks for promptly replying. Hm, most unfortunate if it was actually done by 
someone but not contributed to the main WiX dev.

I'd really rather not have to create my own UI. The WiX_Minimal is perfect, 
aside from this text issue, and I'm relatively new to
WiX such that rolling my own is non-trivial.

Barring any other solutions, I guess I (and any users with white text by 
default) will just have to live with it.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: January 31, 2013 12:52
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Set font color in WiXUIExtension UIs

It is possible. You can create your own UI. I guess I disagree that it should 
be a simple, basic thing provided in the default
WixUI. I honestly thought the WixUI design was to make the text color almost 
black but not quite black such that high contrast
wouldn't pick it up and flip it.  Maybe that wasn't implemented... or maybe it 
was implemented but someone didn't bother to
contribute it back to the community.



On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:29 AM, The Ouizard the.ouiz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've posted this twice already with no response; does no one have any 
 idea how to solve this?

 It doesn't seem outlandish to want to support users who don't use the 
 default display configuration. Setting/overriding a font color seems 
 like it should be a simple and basic thing, but I haven't found 
 anything in the documentation, the mailing list archives, or through 
 searches on how to do it.

 If this truly isn't possible, maybe it should be posted as a feature 
 request?

 -Original Message-
 From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com]
 Sent: January 17, 2013 17:26
 To: 'wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net'
 Subject: RE: Text accessibility

 How can I use the provided WiXUIExtension interfaces (such as 
 WiXUI_Mondo or WiXUI_Minimal) but change the text colour to force it 
 to be black?

 Context:

 Some users set their Personalise display settings to high-contrast 
 white text on black background. In the provided WiX installer UIs, the 
 result is white text (taking the system setting, I assume), and 
 putting it on the default white background, making the text illegible.

 So it seems the simplest solution would be to purposefully make the 
 text black no matter what, so it is always legible on the white 
 background. Yes, this will annoy said users, but not as much as not 
 being able to read the installer text at all. A second, more elegant 
 but more complicated, solution would be to somehow detect the system's 
 default font colour, and set the background to the opposite.

 Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.



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Re: [WiX-users] Set font color in WiXUIExtension UIs

2013-01-31 Thread The Ouizard
Hm, but Windows (or whatever controls the color inverter) could change it at 
any time, such that we'd have to find the new magic
number where the inversion no longer happens.

I think it makes more sense to simply be able to make previously set font 
settings overwritable later in the WiX script file, since
it seems to me that this would be useful in not only my situation, but also 
anytime someone's following the tutorial, but wants to
customise the background and/or font, or in whatever other situations this may 
be useful that I can't conceive.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: January 31, 2013 17:36
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Set font color in WiXUIExtension UIs

Or you could contribute the fix. Find the magic number that looks black to 
humans but isn't black to the color inverter. smile/


On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, The Ouizard the.ouiz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for promptly replying. Hm, most unfortunate if it was actually 
 done by someone but not contributed to the main WiX dev.

 I'd really rather not have to create my own UI. The WiX_Minimal is 
 perfect, aside from this text issue, and I'm relatively new to WiX 
 such that rolling my own is non-trivial.

 Barring any other solutions, I guess I (and any users with white text 
 by
 default) will just have to live with it.

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
 Sent: January 31, 2013 12:52
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Set font color in WiXUIExtension UIs

 It is possible. You can create your own UI. I guess I disagree that it 
 should be a simple, basic thing provided in the default WixUI. I 
 honestly thought the WixUI design was to make the text color almost 
 black but not quite black such that high contrast wouldn't pick it up 
 and flip it.  Maybe that wasn't implemented... or maybe it was 
 implemented but someone didn't bother to contribute it back to the 
 community.



 On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:29 AM, The Ouizard the.ouiz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I've posted this twice already with no response; does no one have 
  any idea how to solve this?
 
  It doesn't seem outlandish to want to support users who don't use 
  the default display configuration. Setting/overriding a font color 
  seems like it should be a simple and basic thing, but I haven't 
  found anything in the documentation, the mailing list archives, or 
  through searches on how to do it.
 
  If this truly isn't possible, maybe it should be posted as a feature 
  request?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com]
  Sent: January 17, 2013 17:26
  To: 'wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net'
  Subject: RE: Text accessibility
 
  How can I use the provided WiXUIExtension interfaces (such as 
  WiXUI_Mondo or WiXUI_Minimal) but change the text colour to force it 
  to be black?
 
  Context:
 
  Some users set their Personalise display settings to high-contrast 
  white text on black background. In the provided WiX installer UIs, 
  the result is white text (taking the system setting, I assume), and 
  putting it on the default white background, making the text illegible.
 
  So it seems the simplest solution would be to purposefully make the 
  text black no matter what, so it is always legible on the white 
  background. Yes, this will annoy said users, but not as much as not 
  being able to read the installer text at all. A second, more elegant 
  but more complicated, solution would be to somehow detect the 
  system's default font colour, and set the background to the opposite.
 
  Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.
 
 
 
  
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[WiX-users] Force text colour in WiXUIExtensions

2013-01-28 Thread The Ouizard
How can I use the provided WiXUIExtension interfaces (such as WiXUI_Minimal) 
but change the text colour to force it to be black?

Context:

Some users set their Personalise display settings to high-contrast white text 
on black background. In the provided WiX installer
UIs, the result is white text (taking the system setting, I assume), and 
putting it on the default white background, making the text
illegible.

So it seems the simplest solution would be to purposefully make the text black 
no matter what, so it is always legible on the white
background. Yes, this will annoy said users, but not as much as not being able 
to read the installer text at all. A second, more
elegant but more complicated, solution would be to somehow detect the system's 
default font colour, and set the background to the
opposite.

Thanks.


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[WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence InstallExecuteSequence actions/events

2013-01-18 Thread The Ouizard
Where can I find a complete list of all the InstallUISequence and 
InstallExecuteSequence, and the order in which they occur?

I'm having trouble figuring out where to put my dialogs in the installation 
sequence when I don't even know the possibilities.


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Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence InstallExecuteSequence actions/events

2013-01-18 Thread The Ouizard
Where, specifically? Can you please provide a link? If it does exist, I haven't 
been able to find it, somehow.

Thanks.

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Sent: January 18, 2013 16:51
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

The Wix documentation under InstallExecuteSequence and InstallUISequence has a 
very comprehensive list.

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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:38 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

Where can I find a complete list of all the InstallUISequence and 
InstallExecuteSequence, and the order in which they occur?

I'm having trouble figuring out where to put my dialogs in the installation 
sequence when I don't even know the possibilities.


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Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence InstallExecuteSequence actions/events

2013-01-18 Thread The Ouizard
Of course, but where in there specifically?

Perhaps point it in the online documentation if possible: 
http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/main.htm

-Original Message-
From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com] 
Sent: January 18, 2013 17:21
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Installer XML v3.5\doc\Wix.chm (substitute the 
appropriate path for the version of Wix you have
installed).

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-Original Message-
From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:14 PM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

Where, specifically? Can you please provide a link? If it does exist, I haven't 
been able to find it, somehow.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com]
Sent: January 18, 2013 16:51
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

The Wix documentation under InstallExecuteSequence and InstallUISequence has a 
very comprehensive list.

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From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:38 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

Where can I find a complete list of all the InstallUISequence and 
InstallExecuteSequence, and the order in which they occur?

I'm having trouble figuring out where to put my dialogs in the installation 
sequence when I don't even know the possibilities.


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Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence InstallExecuteSequence actions/events

2013-01-18 Thread The Ouizard
I still can't find what you're referencing.

Wix Schema References - Wix Schema just leads here ( 
http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/wix_xsd_index.htm ), where I don't see
a InstallExecuteSequence or InstallUISequence.

Just searching for either of those terms and going to the particular Element's 
page doesn't even have a description, let alone a
list of the actions/events dialogs may be placed before or after.

-Original Message-
From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com] 
Sent: January 18, 2013 17:43
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

Wix Schema References - Wix Schema - InstallExecuteSequence|InstallUISequence

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-Original Message-
From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:29 PM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

Of course, but where in there specifically?

Perhaps point it in the online documentation if possible: 
http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/main.htm

-Original Message-
From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com]
Sent: January 18, 2013 17:21
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Installer XML v3.5\doc\Wix.chm (substitute the 
appropriate path for the version of Wix you have
installed).

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www.jackhenry.com

-Original Message-
From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 4:14 PM
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

Where, specifically? Can you please provide a link? If it does exist, I haven't 
been able to find it, somehow.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com]
Sent: January 18, 2013 16:51
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

The Wix documentation under InstallExecuteSequence and InstallUISequence has a 
very comprehensive list.

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-Original Message-
From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:38 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

Where can I find a complete list of all the InstallUISequence and 
InstallExecuteSequence, and the order in which they occur?

I'm having trouble figuring out where to put my dialogs in the installation 
sequence when I don't even know the possibilities.


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Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence InstallExecuteSequence actions/events

2013-01-18 Thread The Ouizard
Thanks, I've installed Orca, and I see the list you're referring to. For the 
record (i.e. anyone looking for the same thing), here
are the lists in order of sequence (in my very simple MSI; perhaps there are 
more that may appear under particular conditions).

InstallUISequence:
LaunchConditions100
ValidateProductID   700
CostInitialize  800
FileCost900
CostFinalize1000
ExecuteAction   1300

InstallExecuteSequence:
LaunchConditions100
ValidateProductID   700
CostInitialize  800
FileCost900
CostFinalize1000
InstallValidate 1400
InstallInitialize   1500
ProcessComponents   1600
UnpublishFeatures   1800
RemoveFiles 3500
InstallFiles4000
RegisterUser6000
RegisterProduct 6100
PublishFeatures 6300
PublishProduct  6400
InstallFinalize 6600

-Original Message-
From: Chad Petersen [mailto:chad.peter...@harlandfs.com] 
Sent: January 18, 2013 17:05
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

+1 for Orca. I use it a ton to inspect the resulting MSI and see if it looks 
like it built like I wanted it to. You can sort by
Sequence number in those two tables to see what relative order things go in. 
Very handy.

-Original Message-
From: John Cooper [mailto:jocoo...@jackhenry.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 1:49 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

For a given installer, open it in Orca and look at the appropriate table.

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-Original Message-
From: The Ouizard [mailto:the.ouiz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 3:38 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] List of all InstallUISequence  InstallExecuteSequence 
actions/events

Where can I find a complete list of all the InstallUISequence and 
InstallExecuteSequence, and the order in which they occur?

I'm having trouble figuring out where to put my dialogs in the installation 
sequence when I don't even know the possibilities.


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Re: [WiX-users] Text accessibility

2013-01-17 Thread The Ouizard
How can I use the provided WiXUIExtension interfaces (such as WiXUI_Mondo or 
WiXUI_Minimal) but change the text colour to force it
to be black?

Context:

Some users set their Personalise display settings to high-contrast white text 
on black background. In the provided WiX installer
UIs, the result is white text (taking the system setting, I assume), and 
putting it on the default white background, making the text
illegible.

So it seems the simplest solution would be to purposefully make the text black 
no matter what, so it is always legible on the white
background. Yes, this will annoy said users, but not as much as not being able 
to read the installer text at all. A second, more
elegant but more complicated, solution would be to somehow detect the system's 
default font colour, and set the background to the
opposite.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you.


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