[WiX-users] Burn usage...

2013-03-05 Thread StevenOgilvie
Hi folks,

Is it possible to use burn like an autorun?
i.e.
I have 3 products, 1 is a server application, the other is the server
application (without any UI), the other is a client application.

By using Radial buttons, can I let the user choose which application to
install?

1. would they be able to install another application afterwards?
2. would ARP/Programs and Features be set up properly?
3. within burn would I be able to set pre reqs for the different
applications?

My company wants me to create a 1 EXE installer for our 3 applications and I
just want to know if it is possible with burn...

thanks,

Steve



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Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

2013-03-05 Thread Rob Mensching
You can use Burn to Bundle all your packages into one executable experience
yes.

1. Yes, you can go back and do Install, Repair, Uninstall operations to the
same Bundle by launching it again.

2. One Bundle gets one ARP entry. You could use Addon Related Bundles to
have separate Bundles that are installed separate but can be
repaired/uninstalled together. Addon Bundles are a bit advanced and if you
are good with one ARP entry, I'd go with one Bundle.

3. Yes. Your BootstrapperApplication can control the state of all the
chained packages.




On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM, StevenOgilvie sogil...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Is it possible to use burn like an autorun?
 i.e.
 I have 3 products, 1 is a server application, the other is the server
 application (without any UI), the other is a client application.

 By using Radial buttons, can I let the user choose which application to
 install?

 1. would they be able to install another application afterwards?
 2. would ARP/Programs and Features be set up properly?
 3. within burn would I be able to set pre reqs for the different
 applications?

 My company wants me to create a 1 EXE installer for our 3 applications and
 I
 just want to know if it is possible with burn...

 thanks,

 Steve



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Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

2013-03-05 Thread Neil Sleightholm
Regarding point 1. I would point out that the standard burn BA does not support 
Change out of the box so if you run the install again you only get 
repair/uninstall. 

You indicated that you wanted radio buttons to select one of 3 applications, 
which would imply change from one install to another to me not adding the new 
application. If you wanted to add an application I would suggest you want 
checkboxes otherwise you couldn't support a single ARP entry.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] 
Sent: 05 March 2013 15:07
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

You can use Burn to Bundle all your packages into one executable experience yes.

1. Yes, you can go back and do Install, Repair, Uninstall operations to the 
same Bundle by launching it again.

2. One Bundle gets one ARP entry. You could use Addon Related Bundles to have 
separate Bundles that are installed separate but can be repaired/uninstalled 
together. Addon Bundles are a bit advanced and if you are good with one ARP 
entry, I'd go with one Bundle.

3. Yes. Your BootstrapperApplication can control the state of all the chained 
packages.




On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM, StevenOgilvie sogil...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Is it possible to use burn like an autorun?
 i.e.
 I have 3 products, 1 is a server application, the other is the server 
 application (without any UI), the other is a client application.

 By using Radial buttons, can I let the user choose which application 
 to install?

 1. would they be able to install another application afterwards?
 2. would ARP/Programs and Features be set up properly?
 3. within burn would I be able to set pre reqs for the different 
 applications?

 My company wants me to create a 1 EXE installer for our 3 applications 
 and I just want to know if it is possible with burn...

 thanks,

 Steve



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Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

2013-03-05 Thread Steven Ogilvie
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Neil,

Good points thanks!

I am presuming your Extended BA extension handles that?

Rob, be nice to use Neil's BA or add it for 3.8 :)

Thanks,

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
Sent: March-05-13 12:16 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

Regarding point 1. I would point out that the standard burn BA does not support 
Change out of the box so if you run the install again you only get 
repair/uninstall. 

You indicated that you wanted radio buttons to select one of 3 applications, 
which would imply change from one install to another to me not adding the new 
application. If you wanted to add an application I would suggest you want 
checkboxes otherwise you couldn't support a single ARP entry.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
Sent: 05 March 2013 15:07
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

You can use Burn to Bundle all your packages into one executable experience yes.

1. Yes, you can go back and do Install, Repair, Uninstall operations to the 
same Bundle by launching it again.

2. One Bundle gets one ARP entry. You could use Addon Related Bundles to have 
separate Bundles that are installed separate but can be repaired/uninstalled 
together. Addon Bundles are a bit advanced and if you are good with one ARP 
entry, I'd go with one Bundle.

3. Yes. Your BootstrapperApplication can control the state of all the chained 
packages.




On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM, StevenOgilvie sogil...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Is it possible to use burn like an autorun?
 i.e.
 I have 3 products, 1 is a server application, the other is the server 
 application (without any UI), the other is a client application.

 By using Radial buttons, can I let the user choose which application 
 to install?

 1. would they be able to install another application afterwards?
 2. would ARP/Programs and Features be set up properly?
 3. within burn would I be able to set pre reqs for the different 
 applications?

 My company wants me to create a 1 EXE installer for our 3 applications 
 and I just want to know if it is possible with burn...

 thanks,

 Steve



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Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

2013-03-05 Thread Neil Sleightholm
I am afraid not, I tried but couldn't get burn to play ball - I think Change 
has to work in a particular way and I never figured it out. I ran out of time 
for my application and had to implement it outside the install.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com] 
Sent: 05 March 2013 17:24
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

Classification: Public 


Neil,

Good points thanks!

I am presuming your Extended BA extension handles that?

Rob, be nice to use Neil's BA or add it for 3.8 :)

Thanks,

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
Sent: March-05-13 12:16 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

Regarding point 1. I would point out that the standard burn BA does not support 
Change out of the box so if you run the install again you only get 
repair/uninstall. 

You indicated that you wanted radio buttons to select one of 3 applications, 
which would imply change from one install to another to me not adding the new 
application. If you wanted to add an application I would suggest you want 
checkboxes otherwise you couldn't support a single ARP entry.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
Sent: 05 March 2013 15:07
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

You can use Burn to Bundle all your packages into one executable experience yes.

1. Yes, you can go back and do Install, Repair, Uninstall operations to the 
same Bundle by launching it again.

2. One Bundle gets one ARP entry. You could use Addon Related Bundles to have 
separate Bundles that are installed separate but can be repaired/uninstalled 
together. Addon Bundles are a bit advanced and if you are good with one ARP 
entry, I'd go with one Bundle.

3. Yes. Your BootstrapperApplication can control the state of all the chained 
packages.




On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM, StevenOgilvie sogil...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Is it possible to use burn like an autorun?
 i.e.
 I have 3 products, 1 is a server application, the other is the server 
 application (without any UI), the other is a client application.

 By using Radial buttons, can I let the user choose which application 
 to install?

 1. would they be able to install another application afterwards?
 2. would ARP/Programs and Features be set up properly?
 3. within burn would I be able to set pre reqs for the different 
 applications?

 My company wants me to create a 1 EXE installer for our 3 applications 
 and I just want to know if it is possible with burn...

 thanks,

 Steve



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Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

2013-03-05 Thread Steven Ogilvie
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Stupid question...

Could I use a parent burn and have 3 check boxes that launch a burn 
(bootstrapper) exe?

So parent exe that launches 3 children exe based on check box selection?

Not pretty but a workaround?

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
Sent: March-05-13 12:39 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

I am afraid not, I tried but couldn't get burn to play ball - I think Change 
has to work in a particular way and I never figured it out. I ran out of time 
for my application and had to implement it outside the install.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com]
Sent: 05 March 2013 17:24
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

Classification: Public 


Neil,

Good points thanks!

I am presuming your Extended BA extension handles that?

Rob, be nice to use Neil's BA or add it for 3.8 :)

Thanks,

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
Sent: March-05-13 12:16 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

Regarding point 1. I would point out that the standard burn BA does not support 
Change out of the box so if you run the install again you only get 
repair/uninstall. 

You indicated that you wanted radio buttons to select one of 3 applications, 
which would imply change from one install to another to me not adding the new 
application. If you wanted to add an application I would suggest you want 
checkboxes otherwise you couldn't support a single ARP entry.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
Sent: 05 March 2013 15:07
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

You can use Burn to Bundle all your packages into one executable experience yes.

1. Yes, you can go back and do Install, Repair, Uninstall operations to the 
same Bundle by launching it again.

2. One Bundle gets one ARP entry. You could use Addon Related Bundles to have 
separate Bundles that are installed separate but can be repaired/uninstalled 
together. Addon Bundles are a bit advanced and if you are good with one ARP 
entry, I'd go with one Bundle.

3. Yes. Your BootstrapperApplication can control the state of all the chained 
packages.




On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM, StevenOgilvie sogil...@msn.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Is it possible to use burn like an autorun?
 i.e.
 I have 3 products, 1 is a server application, the other is the server 
 application (without any UI), the other is a client application.

 By using Radial buttons, can I let the user choose which application 
 to install?

 1. would they be able to install another application afterwards?
 2. would ARP/Programs and Features be set up properly?
 3. within burn would I be able to set pre reqs for the different 
 applications?

 My company wants me to create a 1 EXE installer for our 3 applications 
 and I just want to know if it is possible with burn...

 thanks,

 Steve



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Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

2013-03-05 Thread Rob Mensching
If you are going to do lots of customization, you'll want your own BA.

PS: It's up to Neil if he wants to contribute the code to the WiX toolset.
He's started the process, there are some good discussions on wix-devs.


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Steven Ogilvie steven.ogil...@titus.comwrote:

 Classification: Public


 Stupid question...

 Could I use a parent burn and have 3 check boxes that launch a burn
 (bootstrapper) exe?

 So parent exe that launches 3 children exe based on check box selection?

 Not pretty but a workaround?

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
 Sent: March-05-13 12:39 PM
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

 I am afraid not, I tried but couldn't get burn to play ball - I think
 Change has to work in a particular way and I never figured it out. I ran
 out of time for my application and had to implement it outside the install.

 Neil

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Ogilvie [mailto:steven.ogil...@titus.com]
 Sent: 05 March 2013 17:24
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

 Classification: Public


 Neil,

 Good points thanks!

 I am presuming your Extended BA extension handles that?

 Rob, be nice to use Neil's BA or add it for 3.8 :)

 Thanks,

 Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
 Sent: March-05-13 12:16 PM
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

 Regarding point 1. I would point out that the standard burn BA does not
 support Change out of the box so if you run the install again you only
 get repair/uninstall.

 You indicated that you wanted radio buttons to select one of 3
 applications, which would imply change from one install to another to me
 not adding the new application. If you wanted to add an application I would
 suggest you want checkboxes otherwise you couldn't support a single ARP
 entry.

 Neil

 -Original Message-
 From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com]
 Sent: 05 March 2013 15:07
 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Burn usage...

 You can use Burn to Bundle all your packages into one executable
 experience yes.

 1. Yes, you can go back and do Install, Repair, Uninstall operations to
 the same Bundle by launching it again.

 2. One Bundle gets one ARP entry. You could use Addon Related Bundles to
 have separate Bundles that are installed separate but can be
 repaired/uninstalled together. Addon Bundles are a bit advanced and if you
 are good with one ARP entry, I'd go with one Bundle.

 3. Yes. Your BootstrapperApplication can control the state of all the
 chained packages.




 On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM, StevenOgilvie sogil...@msn.com wrote:

  Hi folks,
 
  Is it possible to use burn like an autorun?
  i.e.
  I have 3 products, 1 is a server application, the other is the server
  application (without any UI), the other is a client application.
 
  By using Radial buttons, can I let the user choose which application
  to install?
 
  1. would they be able to install another application afterwards?
  2. would ARP/Programs and Features be set up properly?
  3. within burn would I be able to set pre reqs for the different
  applications?
 
  My company wants me to create a 1 EXE installer for our 3 applications
  and I just want to know if it is possible with burn...
 
  thanks,
 
  Steve
 
 
 
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