Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Pallavi Patrutkar wrote: > Some days before I was facing problem while upgradation from previous > version to newer version. I added a new component that was adding a new > registry value while installation. While upgradation, it was not > installing some of the components properly while at the time of fresh > installation, it was working properly. What kind of upgrade did you do? Check a verbose log around InstallValidate to see which components MSI thought it needed to install. -- sig://boB http://bobs.org - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Hello All, I want to know some more information on components - installable chunks in WIX file. Some days before I was facing problem while upgradation from previous version to newer version. I added a new component that was adding a new registry value while installation. While upgradation, it was not installing some of the components properly while at the time of fresh installation, it was working properly. Later on I fixed the problem by removing registry component and put the registry value writing code in one of the DLL function. But still I would like to know what was problem while component installation. Can I have some more light on this? Why only upgradation does not work properly? Thanks in advance. Regards, Pallavi. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Hi Some more points for wishlist for the wix bootstrapper... (all IMHO) - The major feature the task lacks is the possibility to create custom user interface. That startup dialog is just ugly. It would be very nice if wix's native bootstrapper allowed custom UI (I mean, for example, a possibility of HTML-based UI). Wix bootstrapper could provide some sort of API to create user interface part... - it would be very nice if wix bootstrapper understood MSBuild's pre-requisite package definition files. :-) They seem to be flexible enough to check and install almost anything… And no extra work is needed to author typical pre-requisite packages. - The task lacks the posibility of selecting installer language. It would be great if if WiX bootstrapper supported that. Kind regards, Nikolay 2006/12/6, David Thielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hi; > > A couple of features that would be VERY nice in this: > > > > Optional prerequisites. The .NET 2.0 language pack, J# language pack, and > Sql Server Express are all optional prerequisites. The first 2 are suggested > and the 3rd (in our case) is only needed if they don't have a database to > use already. > > The ability to have links to explinations/help for each item. There should > be standard MS links for the MS items but we can override those (for example > in our case the link for Sql Server Express). > > The ability to add our own prerequisites that include a UI to prompt them. > For example, we require a SMTP server - and if they pick the IIS one (the > default) we then need to make sure it's installed & enabled. But they can > pick another. > > thanks - dave > > > > > From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tue 12/5/2006 2:16 PM > > To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist > > > > > > In the underlying complexity, I'm sure SQL 2005 is more complex than > Exchange 2007. The prerequisite detection, user interface, and installation > customization (and how they pass information on to the MSIs) of all of these > Microsoft bootstrappers are amazing. It'd be nice to have generic forms of > each, for sure. > > > > We're looking to wrap all of our products and add-ons into individual > WiX-based MSIs, with an Exchange 2007-style localized bootstrapper as the CD > autorun for installation. I've done some research into companies that might > offer toolkits to do this, but there really are none. It'd make WiX, and > Windows Installer in general, all the better if this sort of thing was > available. > > > > > > > Joel Peterson > > > Quality Assurance Engineer > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:21 PM > To: Peterson, Joel; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist > > > > I talk to those teams regularly (SQL is more interesting than Exchange, > IMHO). The trick is how to take their very specialized solutions and make > them generic enough to solve all of the different problems we all face here. > That, and often their solutions need to be scaled (down) such to be more > useful by "smaller applications". > > > > > > From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:58 > To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist > > > > Get some examples from the Office, Exchange, and Visual Studio teams, and > you're set. Their bootstrappers are awesome. > > > > > > > Joel Peterson > > > Quality Assurance Engineer > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Rob Mensching > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:04 AM > To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist > > > > On my todo list. You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3. > I've actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get > the v2 CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call > it done. Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper. > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of David Thielen > Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25 > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Hi; A couple of features that would be VERY nice in this: 1. Optional prerequisites. The .NET 2.0 language pack, J# language pack, and Sql Server Express are all optional prerequisites. The first 2 are suggested and the 3rd (in our case) is only needed if they don't have a database to use already. 2. The ability to have links to explinations/help for each item. There should be standard MS links for the MS items but we can override those (for example in our case the link for Sql Server Express). 3. The ability to add our own prerequisites that include a UI to prompt them. For example, we require a SMTP server - and if they pick the IIS one (the default) we then need to make sure it's installed & enabled. But they can pick another. thanks - dave From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 12/5/2006 2:16 PM To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist In the underlying complexity, I'm sure SQL 2005 is more complex than Exchange 2007. The prerequisite detection, user interface, and installation customization (and how they pass information on to the MSIs) of all of these Microsoft bootstrappers are amazing. It'd be nice to have generic forms of each, for sure. We're looking to wrap all of our products and add-ons into individual WiX-based MSIs, with an Exchange 2007-style localized bootstrapper as the CD autorun for installation. I've done some research into companies that might offer toolkits to do this, but there really are none. It'd make WiX, and Windows Installer in general, all the better if this sort of thing was available. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:21 PM To: Peterson, Joel; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I talk to those teams regularly (SQL is more interesting than Exchange, IMHO). The trick is how to take their very specialized solutions and make them generic enough to solve all of the different problems we all face here. That, and often their solutions need to be scaled (down) such to be more useful by "smaller applications". From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:58 To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Get some examples from the Office, Exchange, and Visual Studio teams, and you're set. Their bootstrappers are awesome. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:04 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist On my todo list. You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3. I've actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get the v2 CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call it done. Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer. I wish WIX had this capability... Thanks - dave David Thielen www.windwardreports.com <http://www.windwardreports.com/> 303-499-2544 x1185 Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a b
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
I 100% agree. I just responded to someone where I noted that "The bootstrapper and more CustomActions/Extensions are the future of WiX." I believe that. Finishing WiX v2 is a very good thing then I'm going to go back to working on the bootstrapper for all the reasons you list below and more. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peterson, Joel Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 13:16 To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist In the underlying complexity, I'm sure SQL 2005 is more complex than Exchange 2007. The prerequisite detection, user interface, and installation customization (and how they pass information on to the MSIs) of all of these Microsoft bootstrappers are amazing. It'd be nice to have generic forms of each, for sure. We're looking to wrap all of our products and add-ons into individual WiX-based MSIs, with an Exchange 2007-style localized bootstrapper as the CD autorun for installation. I've done some research into companies that might offer toolkits to do this, but there really are none. It'd make WiX, and Windows Installer in general, all the better if this sort of thing was available. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:21 PM To: Peterson, Joel; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I talk to those teams regularly (SQL is more interesting than Exchange, IMHO). The trick is how to take their very specialized solutions and make them generic enough to solve all of the different problems we all face here. That, and often their solutions need to be scaled (down) such to be more useful by "smaller applications". From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:58 To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Get some examples from the Office, Exchange, and Visual Studio teams, and you're set. Their bootstrappers are awesome. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:04 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist On my todo list. You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3. I've actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get the v2 CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call it done. Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer. I wish WIX had this capability... Thanks - dave David Thielen www.windwardreports.com<http://www.windwardreports.com> 303-499-2544 x1185 Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
P.S. Someone may have already posted this, but the documentation for the GenerateBootstrapper task is here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms164294.aspx You'll want to look at the documentation for the ComponentsLocation attribute at a minimum so you can decide if you want the bootstrapper to look for the prereqs in the local folder or if you want it to download them. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erv Walter Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 3:53 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist No, you don't have to use VS to make your MSI. The VS 2005 bootstrapper can be used with any MSI that you make ahead of time (e.g. using WiX). There's not good GUI support for this model, but it works. You just need to make an MSBuild file yourself. Here is our simple MSBuild file that makes a bootstrapper for our MSI (which needs .NET 2.0): http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003 <http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003> "> .NET Framework 2.0 Note, you can find additional dependecy choices in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0\BootStrapper\Packages\*. You need to find the depency you want and look in it's product.xml file to find the Product code to use (e.g. "Microsoft.JSharp.2.0" for J# 2.0). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erv Walter Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
No, you don't have to use VS to make your MSI. The VS 2005 bootstrapper can be used with any MSI that you make ahead of time (e.g. using WiX). There's not good GUI support for this model, but it works. You just need to make an MSBuild file yourself. Here is our simple MSBuild file that makes a bootstrapper for our MSI (which needs .NET 2.0): http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003 <http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003> "> .NET Framework 2.0 Note, you can find additional dependecy choices in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 8\SDK\v2.0\BootStrapper\Packages\*. You need to find the depency you want and look in it's product.xml file to find the Product code to use (e.g. "Microsoft.JSharp.2.0" for J# 2.0). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erv Walter Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
In the underlying complexity, I'm sure SQL 2005 is more complex than Exchange 2007. The prerequisite detection, user interface, and installation customization (and how they pass information on to the MSIs) of all of these Microsoft bootstrappers are amazing. It'd be nice to have generic forms of each, for sure. We're looking to wrap all of our products and add-ons into individual WiX-based MSIs, with an Exchange 2007-style localized bootstrapper as the CD autorun for installation. I've done some research into companies that might offer toolkits to do this, but there really are none. It'd make WiX, and Windows Installer in general, all the better if this sort of thing was available. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:21 PM To: Peterson, Joel; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I talk to those teams regularly (SQL is more interesting than Exchange, IMHO). The trick is how to take their very specialized solutions and make them generic enough to solve all of the different problems we all face here. That, and often their solutions need to be scaled (down) such to be more useful by "smaller applications". From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:58 To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Get some examples from the Office, Exchange, and Visual Studio teams, and you're set. Their bootstrappers are awesome. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:04 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist On my todo list. You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3. I've actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get the v2 CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call it done. Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer. I wish WIX had this capability... Thanks - dave David Thielen www.windwardreports.com 303-499-2544 x1185 Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? than
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
I talk to those teams regularly (SQL is more interesting than Exchange, IMHO). The trick is how to take their very specialized solutions and make them generic enough to solve all of the different problems we all face here. That, and often their solutions need to be scaled (down) such to be more useful by "smaller applications". From: Peterson, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:58 To: Rob Mensching; David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Get some examples from the Office, Exchange, and Visual Studio teams, and you're set. Their bootstrappers are awesome. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:04 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist On my todo list. You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3. I've actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get the v2 CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call it done. Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer. I wish WIX had this capability... Thanks - dave David Thielen www.windwardreports.com<http://www.windwardreports.com> 303-499-2544 x1185 Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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You can also build your .msi file with WiX and use the "Bootstrapper Manifest Generator" and the VS 2005 SDK for generating a bootstrapper. You can get the tool here: http://www.gotdotnet.com/workspaces/workspace.aspx?id=ddb4f08c-7d7c-4f44-a009-ea19fc812545 David Thielen schrieb: > I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can’t > do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the > VS installer. > > > > I wish WIX had this capability… > > > > Thanks - dave > > > > > > > > David Thielen > > www.windwardreports.com <http://www.windwardreports.com> > > 303-499-2544 x1185 > > > > Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm > > > > *From:* Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM > *To:* David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist > > > > Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your > prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from > your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can > download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are > needed. > > > > > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Michael > Osmond > *Sent:* Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM > *To:* David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist > > Dave, > > > > You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" > (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your > redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got > from local source or the web. > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx > > > > Michael > > > > -------------------- > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *David > Thielen > *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM > *To:* wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist > > Hi; > > > > We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as > a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our > installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are > programmers!) > > > > So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an > automatic part of our install. So my questions are: > > > > 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when > they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? > > > > 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in > our installer? > > > > 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? > > > > thanks - dave > > > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > > > > ___ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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Get some examples from the Office, Exchange, and Visual Studio teams, and you're set. Their bootstrappers are awesome. Joel Peterson Quality Assurance Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Mensching Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:04 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist On my todo list. You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3. I've actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get the v2 CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call it done. Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer. I wish WIX had this capability... Thanks - dave David Thielen www.windwardreports.com 303-499-2544 x1185 Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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On my todo list. You can see the beginnings of a bootstrapper in WiX v3. I've actually taken a detour away from that project for a month or so to get the v2 CustomActions stable so that we can stick a fork in WiX v2 and call it done. Then I'll go back to the WiX v3 bootstrapper. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 09:25 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer. I wish WIX had this capability... Thanks - dave David Thielen www.windwardreports.com<http://www.windwardreports.com> 303-499-2544 x1185 Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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On 12/5/06, David Thielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer. AFAIK, no you don't have to abandon WiX check out the following links: http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/04/10/Bootstrapper/ http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnvs05/html/custom_pkg.asp hth, Simon I wish WIX had this capability… Thanks - dave David Thielen www.windwardreports.com 303-499-2544 x1185 Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm -- *From:* Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM *To:* David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net *Subject:* RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Michael Osmond *Sent:* Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM *To:* David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net *Subject:* Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *David Thielen *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM *To:* wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net *Subject:* [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
I take it I would have to use the VS installer instead of WIX? We can't do that as we use a lot of WIX functionality that does not exist in the VS installer. I wish WIX had this capability... Thanks - dave David Thielen www.windwardreports.com 303-499-2544 x1185 Cubicle Wars - http://www.windwardreports.com/film.htm From: Erv Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 10:12 AM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
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Visual Studio also includes a bootstrapper that can install your prerequisites and then launch your setup. It can get the prereqs from your local CD, or if you are mostly a downloaded product, it can download the prereqs from the official microsoft site when/if they are needed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Osmond Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 8:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Hi; This looks great. Two questions. First the easy one - which version of the WIndows installer do I need to require so I can then run my wix install. Second, how do I tie this in to my installer? Is there a way in it to include it with my MSI and/or have it start downloading & running my msi when it's done? thanks - dave From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rob MacFadyen Sent: Mon 12/4/2006 8:29 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist David, The most recent version does: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2A5E4EBC-651C-40AA-9525-1810AF47C317&displaylang=en Regards, Rob From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:22 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; That looks great except... It does not include the two we need - .NET 2.0 and J# 2.0. thanks - dave From: Michael Osmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12/4/2006 7:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
David, The most recent version does: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2A5E4EBC-651C-40AA- 9525-1810AF47C317 <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=2A5E4EBC-651C-40AA -9525-1810AF47C317&displaylang=en> &displaylang=en Regards, Rob _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 10:22 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; That looks great except... It does not include the two we need - .NET 2.0 and J# 2.0. thanks - dave _ From: Michael Osmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12/4/2006 7:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Hi; That looks great except... It does not include the two we need - .NET 2.0 and J# 2.0. thanks - dave From: Michael Osmond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 12/4/2006 7:33 PM To: David Thielen; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Dave, You could have a look at the "Microsoft Component Installer" (PSetup). It provides a bootstrap that will install your redistributables and then your app. The redistributables can be got from local source or the web. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms994369.aspx Michael _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thielen Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2006 12:03 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] Need recomendation - including .NET redist
Hi; We have had feedback from 4 potential customers that having .NET 2.0 as a prerequisite with the message taking them to the download made our installer "too difficult and too complicated" (and note - these are programmers!) So we need to have installing the .NET framework (and J# redist) as an automatic part of our install. So my questions are: 1) Is it better to have the redist in our install, or have it that when they click Next it downloads it and runs it automatically? 2a) If it's include it, anything special we have to do to have this in our installer? 2b) If it's download and run, how do we set that up to go? thanks - dave - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
