Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute"Win64" in"Component"

2008-10-30 Thread Christopher Karper
It is not possible using MSI.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 2:15 AM, MAKARAND HAZARIKA <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Actually I am new to the world of Wix and Windows Installers. And the
> first task I get is to combine a 32bit and a 64bit installer. Now
> looking at all the gentlemen's discussions, I figure the problem is not
> as simple as I had pictured the first time.
>
> So what is the final conclusion? That it is not possible at all to have
> one single msi for both 32 and 64bit OS??
>
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Makarand
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bryan Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 October 2008 PM 9:54
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; General discussion for WindowsInstaller XML
> toolset.; Pally Sandher
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute"Win64"
> in"Component"
>
> One approach to this that I have seen work is where you have one .wxs
> file that generates both a 32-bit and a 64-bit .msi through conditional
> logic.  You then wrap both the 32-bit and 64-bit .msi in a bootstrapper
> that determines the correct .msi to install at runtime.  The
> bootstrapper can be pretty simple, with no UI that does nothing other
> than determine the OS and launch the correct .msi.  While not perfect,
> this allows you to only have to manage one set of .wxs files to generate
> two almost identical installations, targeting two different platforms.
>
> To generate two installers, one 32-bit and one 64-bit from a single .wxs
> file, you would do something like this...
>
> 
> http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi";>
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> InstallerVersion="200" Keywords="Installer,MSI,Database"
>Languages="0,1033" Manufacturer="you"
> Platform="$(var.PLATFORM)" SummaryCodepage="0" Compressed="yes" />
>
>    
>      
>    
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Owings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:32 AM
> To: Pally Sandher
> Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64"
> in"Component"
>
> A mixed install will *always* be unavoidable for us.
>
> Some of our components are plugins for other applications -- which may
> themselves be 32-bit or 64-bit (even on a 64-bit platform, a 32-bit app
> could be in use, or a particular app may ONLY be 32-bit), which requires
> the plugins built for the appropriate architecture. We don't know what's
> installed where until runtime.
>
> We actually determine the correct place to drop the plugins via custom
> actions sequenced prior to LaunchConditions. The plugin install paths
> could be anywhere -- very possibly (and not uncommonly) NOT under
> ProgramFiles64Folder or even ProgramFilesFolder. In fact, we really for
> the most part don't care about the values of these properties and don't
> use them, as we have to determine component locations via custom
> actions, always. There is a single exception to this rule -- a 32-bit
> app, but the MSI always does the right thing with this (we use
> ProgramFilesFolder, and it drops it into the correct place)
>
> However, I might be concerned if our *own* location properties were bing
> transformed somehow. In other words, If I set a property to C:\Program
> Files\foo on a 64-bit machine and I get redirected to c:\Program Files
> (x86)\foo on the component install I might be concerned -- but I haven't
> seen evidence of this (yet -- I have a lot more 64-bit testing to do).
> Nothing is dropped into System32 in all cases.
>
> Having said all that -- I'm not averse to building a 64-bit installer,
> but (per another email) 64-bit MSIs with WIX 2.x don't seem to work for
> me:
>
> I've noticed that my MSI will not run on a Vista-64 box if I add the
> Platforms="x64" attribute. The error is something to the effect of :
> "This installation package could not be opened. Contact the application
> vendor to verify that this is a valid Windows Installer package." Should
> my custom actions dll be built 64-bit? The MSI can be opened with Orca
> and examined without issues.
>
> Any help on *that* issue would be appreciated, as I do have an upcoming
> install where I really will need a 64-bit MSI.
>
> Pally Sandher wrote:
> > If your MSI is built for x86 (i.e. Platform = "Intel") try as you may,
> > you will *not* be able to access the 64-bit system directories
> > ProgramFiles64Folder, System64Fold

Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute"Win64" in"Component"

2008-10-29 Thread MAKARAND HAZARIKA
Hello everyone,

Actually I am new to the world of Wix and Windows Installers. And the
first task I get is to combine a 32bit and a 64bit installer. Now
looking at all the gentlemen's discussions, I figure the problem is not
as simple as I had pictured the first time.

So what is the final conclusion? That it is not possible at all to have
one single msi for both 32 and 64bit OS??


Thanks and Regards,
Makarand


-Original Message-
From: Bryan Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 October 2008 PM 9:54
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; General discussion for WindowsInstaller XML
toolset.; Pally Sandher
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute"Win64"
in"Component"

One approach to this that I have seen work is where you have one .wxs
file that generates both a 32-bit and a 64-bit .msi through conditional
logic.  You then wrap both the 32-bit and 64-bit .msi in a bootstrapper
that determines the correct .msi to install at runtime.  The
bootstrapper can be pretty simple, with no UI that does nothing other
than determine the OS and launch the correct .msi.  While not perfect,
this allows you to only have to manage one set of .wxs files to generate
two almost identical installations, targeting two different platforms.

To generate two installers, one 32-bit and one 64-bit from a single .wxs
file, you would do something like this...


http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi";>
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  



  



-Original Message-
From: Michael Owings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:32 AM
To: Pally Sandher
Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64"
in"Component"

A mixed install will *always* be unavoidable for us.

Some of our components are plugins for other applications -- which may
themselves be 32-bit or 64-bit (even on a 64-bit platform, a 32-bit app
could be in use, or a particular app may ONLY be 32-bit), which requires
the plugins built for the appropriate architecture. We don't know what's
installed where until runtime.

We actually determine the correct place to drop the plugins via custom
actions sequenced prior to LaunchConditions. The plugin install paths
could be anywhere -- very possibly (and not uncommonly) NOT under
ProgramFiles64Folder or even ProgramFilesFolder. In fact, we really for
the most part don't care about the values of these properties and don't
use them, as we have to determine component locations via custom
actions, always. There is a single exception to this rule -- a 32-bit
app, but the MSI always does the right thing with this (we use
ProgramFilesFolder, and it drops it into the correct place)

However, I might be concerned if our *own* location properties were bing
transformed somehow. In other words, If I set a property to C:\Program
Files\foo on a 64-bit machine and I get redirected to c:\Program Files
(x86)\foo on the component install I might be concerned -- but I haven't
seen evidence of this (yet -- I have a lot more 64-bit testing to do).
Nothing is dropped into System32 in all cases.

Having said all that -- I'm not averse to building a 64-bit installer,
but (per another email) 64-bit MSIs with WIX 2.x don't seem to work for
me:

I've noticed that my MSI will not run on a Vista-64 box if I add the
Platforms="x64" attribute. The error is something to the effect of :
"This installation package could not be opened. Contact the application
vendor to verify that this is a valid Windows Installer package." Should
my custom actions dll be built 64-bit? The MSI can be opened with Orca
and examined without issues.

Any help on *that* issue would be appreciated, as I do have an upcoming
install where I really will need a 64-bit MSI.

Pally Sandher wrote:
> If your MSI is built for x86 (i.e. Platform = "Intel") try as you may,
> you will *not* be able to access the 64-bit system directories
> ProgramFiles64Folder, System64Folder or CommonFiles64Folder. You may
get
> an MSI to build & even look as though it installs but it won't ever
> access these areas. When (if) you check the log you'll see properties
> being transformed by something called WIN64DUALFOLDERS from the 64-bit
> directory to the corresponding 32-bit directory.
>
> You can however build a x64 MSI which can access both 64-bit & 32-bit
> system directories which WIN64DUALFOLDERS won't touch but as stated
> before you will get ICE80 errors for every 32-bit directory you
> reference.
>
> Why does your application have 32-bit & 64-bit components?
>
>
> Palbinder Sandher
> Software Deployment and IT Administrator
>
> T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
> F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
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>
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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in"Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Bob Arnson
MAKARAND HAZARIKA wrote:
> I have two installers of a product, one for 32bit version and one for
> 64bit version. Now, my task is to combine them both into one single
> installer. 

Windows Installer doesn't support that. See "Using 64-Bit Windows 
Installer Packages" in the MSI SDK for details.

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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in"Component"

2008-10-28 Thread MAKARAND HAZARIKA
Hi everyone and thanks Pally for replying.

Here is what I want to do -

I have two installers of a product, one for 32bit version and one for
64bit version. Now, my task is to combine them both into one single
installer. There are certain dlls that will go into both 32bit and
64bit. So I am confused as to what to do with those components for those
dlls? Following is an example of an excerpt from the .wxs file of the 64
bit installer -





  
And in the 32 bit, the only difference is that the 'Win64="yes"'
attribute is not there. So what to do with the combined installer for 32
bit and 64 bit? One workaround for this problem is to add each of these
components twice with 'condition' in all of them checking whether it is
32 bit or 64 bit.

e.g.












So there are two separate components for each of the dlls. And yes the
GUID will be different in both the components above. Does anyone have a
better solution or workaround?

Thanks and Regards,
Makarand


-Original Message-
From: Pally Sandher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 October 2008 PM 4:06
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64"
in"Component"

Yes but you will get an ICE80 error when compiling if you set
Win64="yes" on a component when your MSI is an x86 build & vice-versa. 

Why would you want to?


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From: MAKARAND HAZARIKA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 October 2008 07:14
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in
"Component"

Hello everyone,

 

Can I use the attribute  Win64 in the Component for 32 bit applications?
I read that Win64 attribute is applicable for both 32 and 64 bit.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Makarand

 


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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in"Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Bryan Turner
One approach to this that I have seen work is where you have one .wxs file that 
generates both a 32-bit and a 64-bit .msi through conditional logic.  You then 
wrap both the 32-bit and 64-bit .msi in a bootstrapper that determines the 
correct .msi to install at runtime.  The bootstrapper can be pretty simple, 
with no UI that does nothing other than determine the OS and launch the correct 
.msi.  While not perfect, this allows you to only have to manage one set of 
.wxs files to generate two almost identical installations, targeting two 
different platforms.

To generate two installers, one 32-bit and one 64-bit from a single .wxs file, 
you would do something like this...


http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi";>
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  



  



-Original Message-
From: Michael Owings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 8:32 AM
To: Pally Sandher
Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in"Component"

A mixed install will *always* be unavoidable for us.

Some of our components are plugins for other applications -- which may
themselves be 32-bit or 64-bit (even on a 64-bit platform, a 32-bit app
could be in use, or a particular app may ONLY be 32-bit), which requires
the plugins built for the appropriate architecture. We don't know what's
installed where until runtime.

We actually determine the correct place to drop the plugins via custom
actions sequenced prior to LaunchConditions. The plugin install paths
could be anywhere -- very possibly (and not uncommonly) NOT under
ProgramFiles64Folder or even ProgramFilesFolder. In fact, we really for
the most part don't care about the values of these properties and don't
use them, as we have to determine component locations via custom
actions, always. There is a single exception to this rule -- a 32-bit
app, but the MSI always does the right thing with this (we use
ProgramFilesFolder, and it drops it into the correct place)

However, I might be concerned if our *own* location properties were bing
transformed somehow. In other words, If I set a property to C:\Program
Files\foo on a 64-bit machine and I get redirected to c:\Program Files
(x86)\foo on the component install I might be concerned -- but I haven't
seen evidence of this (yet -- I have a lot more 64-bit testing to do).
Nothing is dropped into System32 in all cases.

Having said all that -- I'm not averse to building a 64-bit installer,
but (per another email) 64-bit MSIs with WIX 2.x don't seem to work for me:

I've noticed that my MSI will not run on a Vista-64 box if I add the
Platforms="x64" attribute. The error is something to the effect of :
"This installation package could not be opened. Contact the application
vendor to verify that this is a valid Windows Installer package." Should
my custom actions dll be built 64-bit? The MSI can be opened with Orca
and examined without issues.

Any help on *that* issue would be appreciated, as I do have an upcoming
install where I really will need a 64-bit MSI.

Pally Sandher wrote:
> If your MSI is built for x86 (i.e. Platform = "Intel") try as you may,
> you will *not* be able to access the 64-bit system directories
> ProgramFiles64Folder, System64Folder or CommonFiles64Folder. You may get
> an MSI to build & even look as though it installs but it won't ever
> access these areas. When (if) you check the log you'll see properties
> being transformed by something called WIN64DUALFOLDERS from the 64-bit
> directory to the corresponding 32-bit directory.
>
> You can however build a x64 MSI which can access both 64-bit & 32-bit
> system directories which WIN64DUALFOLDERS won't touch but as stated
> before you will get ICE80 errors for every 32-bit directory you
> reference.
>
> Why does your application have 32-bit & 64-bit components?
>
>
> Palbinder Sandher
> Software Deployment and IT Administrator
>
> T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
> F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
> http://www.iesve.com
>
> **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the **
>
> Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No.
> SC151456
> Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park,
> Glasgow G20 0SP
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>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Karper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 28 October 2008 14:28
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64"
> in"Component"
>
> MSI doesn't support a single installer for multiple architectures.
> That's
> the problem.   You'll never get a 32bit instal

Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in"Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Michael Owings
A mixed install will *always* be unavoidable for us.

Some of our components are plugins for other applications -- which may 
themselves be 32-bit or 64-bit (even on a 64-bit platform, a 32-bit app 
could be in use, or a particular app may ONLY be 32-bit), which requires 
the plugins built for the appropriate architecture. We don't know what's 
installed where until runtime.

We actually determine the correct place to drop the plugins via custom 
actions sequenced prior to LaunchConditions. The plugin install paths 
could be anywhere -- very possibly (and not uncommonly) NOT under 
ProgramFiles64Folder or even ProgramFilesFolder. In fact, we really for 
the most part don't care about the values of these properties and don't 
use them, as we have to determine component locations via custom 
actions, always. There is a single exception to this rule -- a 32-bit 
app, but the MSI always does the right thing with this (we use 
ProgramFilesFolder, and it drops it into the correct place)

However, I might be concerned if our *own* location properties were bing 
transformed somehow. In other words, If I set a property to C:\Program 
Files\foo on a 64-bit machine and I get redirected to c:\Program Files 
(x86)\foo on the component install I might be concerned -- but I haven't 
seen evidence of this (yet -- I have a lot more 64-bit testing to do). 
Nothing is dropped into System32 in all cases.

Having said all that -- I'm not averse to building a 64-bit installer, 
but (per another email) 64-bit MSIs with WIX 2.x don't seem to work for me:

I've noticed that my MSI will not run on a Vista-64 box if I add the
Platforms="x64" attribute. The error is something to the effect of :
"This installation package could not be opened. Contact the application
vendor to verify that this is a valid Windows Installer package." Should 
my custom actions dll be built 64-bit? The MSI can be opened with Orca 
and examined without issues.

Any help on *that* issue would be appreciated, as I do have an upcoming 
install where I really will need a 64-bit MSI.

Pally Sandher wrote:
> If your MSI is built for x86 (i.e. Platform = "Intel") try as you may,
> you will *not* be able to access the 64-bit system directories
> ProgramFiles64Folder, System64Folder or CommonFiles64Folder. You may get
> an MSI to build & even look as though it installs but it won't ever
> access these areas. When (if) you check the log you'll see properties
> being transformed by something called WIN64DUALFOLDERS from the 64-bit
> directory to the corresponding 32-bit directory.
> 
> You can however build a x64 MSI which can access both 64-bit & 32-bit
> system directories which WIN64DUALFOLDERS won't touch but as stated
> before you will get ICE80 errors for every 32-bit directory you
> reference.
> 
> Why does your application have 32-bit & 64-bit components?
> 
> 
> Palbinder Sandher 
> Software Deployment and IT Administrator 
> 
> T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 
> F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 
> http://www.iesve.com 
> 
> **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the **
> 
> Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No.
> SC151456 
> Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park,
> Glasgow G20 0SP
> 
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Karper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 28 October 2008 14:28
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64"
> in"Component"
> 
> MSI doesn't support a single installer for multiple architectures.
> That's
> the problem.   You'll never get a 32bit installer to validate with 64
> bit
> components in it, period.  MSI requires that you build a single
> installer for each architecture you target.  You can use conditional
> statements and variable replacement in your .wxs file to have a single
> source file, but generate the two .msi files, but you must have the two.
> *shrug*  Just how it is.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hmmm -- I guess my question is -- what am I risking? Getting rid of 
>> the 32-bit installer is a non-starter for us (this isn't a corporate 
>> environment), and the 32-bit mixed installer works perfectly in both 
>> environments. (Our 64-bit components don't actually take up much
> room).
>> A single installer (at least for this product) seems to be a cleaner 
>> approach. Is there some gotcha I'm missing here?
>>
>> Christopher Karper wrote:
>>
>>> If you need a mixed installer, then y

Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in"Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Pally Sandher
If your MSI is built for x86 (i.e. Platform = "Intel") try as you may,
you will *not* be able to access the 64-bit system directories
ProgramFiles64Folder, System64Folder or CommonFiles64Folder. You may get
an MSI to build & even look as though it installs but it won't ever
access these areas. When (if) you check the log you'll see properties
being transformed by something called WIN64DUALFOLDERS from the 64-bit
directory to the corresponding 32-bit directory.

You can however build a x64 MSI which can access both 64-bit & 32-bit
system directories which WIN64DUALFOLDERS won't touch but as stated
before you will get ICE80 errors for every 32-bit directory you
reference.

Why does your application have 32-bit & 64-bit components?


Palbinder Sandher 
Software Deployment and IT Administrator 

T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 
F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 
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-Original Message-
From: Christopher Karper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 October 2008 14:28
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64"
in"Component"

MSI doesn't support a single installer for multiple architectures.
That's
the problem.   You'll never get a 32bit installer to validate with 64
bit
components in it, period.  MSI requires that you build a single
installer for each architecture you target.  You can use conditional
statements and variable replacement in your .wxs file to have a single
source file, but generate the two .msi files, but you must have the two.
*shrug*  Just how it is.

Chris

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hmmm -- I guess my question is -- what am I risking? Getting rid of 
> the 32-bit installer is a non-starter for us (this isn't a corporate 
> environment), and the 32-bit mixed installer works perfectly in both 
> environments. (Our 64-bit components don't actually take up much
room).
>
> A single installer (at least for this product) seems to be a cleaner 
> approach. Is there some gotcha I'm missing here?
>
> Christopher Karper wrote:
>
>> If you need a mixed installer, then you have to make it a 64 bit
>> installer.   It doesn't make sense to install 64 bit components on a
32 bit
>> system anyway, so just don't include those components in your 32 bit
>> installer, or alternately, don't offer a 32 bit installer.   In some
>> corporate environments, that might work.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Michael Owings
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>Pally Sandher wrote:
>> > Yes but you will get an ICE80 error when compiling if you set
>> > Win64="yes" on a component when your MSI is an x86 build &
>>vice-versa.
>> >
>> > Why would you want to?
>>
>>If you install mixed 32 and 64-bit components in a single install?
We
>>have an installer that MUST do this. What would be a better
approach?
>>
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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in "Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Christopher Karper
MSI doesn't support a single installer for multiple architectures.   That's
the problem.   You'll never get a 32bit installer to validate with 64 bit
components in it, period.  MSI requires that you build a single installer
for each architecture you target.  You can use conditional statements and
variable replacement in your .wxs file to have a single source file, but
generate the two .msi files, but you must have the two.  *shrug*  Just how
it is.

Chris

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Michael Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmmm -- I guess my question is -- what am I risking? Getting rid of the
> 32-bit installer is a non-starter for us (this isn't a corporate
> environment), and the 32-bit mixed installer works perfectly in both
> environments. (Our 64-bit components don't actually take up much room).
>
> A single installer (at least for this product) seems to be a cleaner
> approach. Is there some gotcha I'm missing here?
>
> Christopher Karper wrote:
>
>> If you need a mixed installer, then you have to make it a 64 bit
>> installer.   It doesn't make sense to install 64 bit components on a 32 bit
>> system anyway, so just don't include those components in your 32 bit
>> installer, or alternately, don't offer a 32 bit installer.   In some
>> corporate environments, that might work.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Michael Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>
>>Pally Sandher wrote:
>> > Yes but you will get an ICE80 error when compiling if you set
>> > Win64="yes" on a component when your MSI is an x86 build &
>>vice-versa.
>> >
>> > Why would you want to?
>>
>>If you install mixed 32 and 64-bit components in a single install? We
>>have an installer that MUST do this. What would be a better approach?
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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in "Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Simon Dahlbacka
The gotcha is that you cannot have a 32 bit installer install 64 bit
components.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Michael Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hmmm -- I guess my question is -- what am I risking? Getting rid of the
> 32-bit installer is a non-starter for us (this isn't a corporate
> environment), and the 32-bit mixed installer works perfectly in both
> environments. (Our 64-bit components don't actually take up much room).
>
> A single installer (at least for this product) seems to be a cleaner
> approach. Is there some gotcha I'm missing here?
>
> Christopher Karper wrote:
> > If you need a mixed installer, then you have to make it a 64 bit
> > installer.   It doesn't make sense to install 64 bit components on a 32
> > bit system anyway, so just don't include those components in your 32 bit
> > installer, or alternately, don't offer a 32 bit installer.   In some
> > corporate environments, that might work.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Michael Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > Pally Sandher wrote:
> >  > Yes but you will get an ICE80 error when compiling if you set
> >  > Win64="yes" on a component when your MSI is an x86 build &
> > vice-versa.
> >  >
> >  > Why would you want to?
> >
> > If you install mixed 32 and 64-bit components in a single install? We
> > have an installer that MUST do this. What would be a better approach?
> >
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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in "Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Michael Owings
Hmmm -- I guess my question is -- what am I risking? Getting rid of the 
32-bit installer is a non-starter for us (this isn't a corporate 
environment), and the 32-bit mixed installer works perfectly in both 
environments. (Our 64-bit components don't actually take up much room).

A single installer (at least for this product) seems to be a cleaner 
approach. Is there some gotcha I'm missing here?

Christopher Karper wrote:
> If you need a mixed installer, then you have to make it a 64 bit 
> installer.   It doesn't make sense to install 64 bit components on a 32 
> bit system anyway, so just don't include those components in your 32 bit 
> installer, or alternately, don't offer a 32 bit installer.   In some 
> corporate environments, that might work.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Michael Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> Pally Sandher wrote:
>  > Yes but you will get an ICE80 error when compiling if you set
>  > Win64="yes" on a component when your MSI is an x86 build &
> vice-versa.
>  >
>  > Why would you want to?
> 
> If you install mixed 32 and 64-bit components in a single install? We
> have an installer that MUST do this. What would be a better approach?
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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in "Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Christopher Karper
If you need a mixed installer, then you have to make it a 64 bit
installer.   It doesn't make sense to install 64 bit components on a 32 bit
system anyway, so just don't include those components in your 32 bit
installer, or alternately, don't offer a 32 bit installer.   In some
corporate environments, that might work.

Chris

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Michael Owings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pally Sandher wrote:
> > Yes but you will get an ICE80 error when compiling if you set
> > Win64="yes" on a component when your MSI is an x86 build & vice-versa.
> >
> > Why would you want to?
>
> If you install mixed 32 and 64-bit components in a single install? We
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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in "Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Michael Owings
Pally Sandher wrote:
> Yes but you will get an ICE80 error when compiling if you set
> Win64="yes" on a component when your MSI is an x86 build & vice-versa. 
> 
> Why would you want to?

If you install mixed 32 and 64-bit components in a single install? We 
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Re: [WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in "Component"

2008-10-28 Thread Pally Sandher
Yes but you will get an ICE80 error when compiling if you set
Win64="yes" on a component when your MSI is an x86 build & vice-versa. 

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Hello everyone,

 

Can I use the attribute  Win64 in the Component for 32 bit applications?
I read that Win64 attribute is applicable for both 32 and 64 bit.

 

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[WiX-users] Question regarding the attribute "Win64" in "Component"

2008-10-28 Thread MAKARAND HAZARIKA
Hello everyone,

 

Can I use the attribute  Win64 in the Component for 32 bit applications?
I read that Win64 attribute is applicable for both 32 and 64 bit.

 

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