Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
Windows Installer defines the ServiceInstall table with a foreign key to the Component table because it considers each row of the ServiceInstall table to be part of that component (exactly the same as files and registry values). Thus, separating the service and file parts of the component is a scenario exactly analogous to partial classes (at least it is IMHO). -Original Message- From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 9:44 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment? The problem is that Windows Installer defines the ServiceInstall table with a foreign key to the Component table and not a path to the executable (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa371637(VS.85).aspx). Authoring in WiX would need to maintain this relationship. Today WiX requires that everything that needs to be tied to a component be defined together in the same Component element. Creating a syntax for authoring partial components (useful in my opinion) is not as simple as creating a new XML element to be consumed by candle. There needs to be some sort of consistency check done at some point in time to determine the closure of all components. As Rob points out this is not a simple process in the current toolset. My only hope is that something can be done about this in WiX 4.0 (that is the right version to provide such an enhancement). Edwin G. Castro Software Developer - Staff Electronic Banking Services Fiserv Office: 503-746-0643 Fax: 503-617-0291 www.fiserv.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: McKinnon, Chris [mailto:cmckin...@atb.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 8:44 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment? I wasn't thinking of something like a partial component. Just a way to specify the binPath to the service executable so that the ServiceInstall could be specified in its own component. Something like the File attribute of the XmlFile node. I'm not sure how technically feasible that is, however. Thanks, Chris McKinnon -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:19 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment? The concept of partial Components (like partial classes in C#) has come up in the past. The first problem is the Component composition is a very sacrosanct thing in the Windows Installer. Modifying the composition willy-nilly by adding or removing other files from the link line seemed very dangerous line to walk. We've always erred on the side of caution (which, unfortunately, often led to verbosity). The second problem is the linker doesn't really work this way so getting partial Components into the set of resolved references would take some thinking. You'll notice that C++ (with it's multi-pass compile/link phases like WiX) doesn't support partial classes either. Anyway, that's why we are where we are right now. Looking forward, I think there are a lot of things we should do to make WiX look more like C# and less like C++. But that's for WiX v4. On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) edwin.cas...@fiserv.com wrote: I think it would be really useful to have a ComponentRef of some kind so we can split up file harvesting from actions that apply to some components. ServiceInstall is just one example of this. Another common one I run into is XmlFile and XmlConfig. The Xml elements can be placed in a component by themselves and use a Registry Key as a KeyPath but I would really like to be able to apply them to a ComponentRef of a file I harvested. Edwin G. Castro Software Developer - Staff Electronic Banking Services Fiserv Office: 503-746-0643 Fax: 503-617-0291 www.fiserv.com Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: Pally Sandher [mailto:pally.sand...@iesve.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:57 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment? The service executable installed will point to the KeyPath for the Component. Therefore, you must ensure that the correct executable is either the first child File element under this Component or explicitly mark the appropriate File element as KeyPath='yes'. From the Remarks section at http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/wix_xsd_serviceinstall.htm So at present, that's would be a no. That doesn't really sit right with me but I guess Rob M, Bob A et al had good reasons for making it like so. Palbinder
Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
The concept of partial Components (like partial classes in C#) has come up
in the past. The first problem is the Component composition is a very
sacrosanct thing in the Windows Installer. Modifying the composition
willy-nilly by adding or removing other files from the link line seemed very
dangerous line to walk. We've always erred on the side of caution (which,
unfortunately, often led to verbosity). The second problem is the linker
doesn't really work this way so getting partial Components into the set of
resolved references would take some thinking. You'll notice that C++ (with
it's multi-pass compile/link phases like WiX) doesn't support partial
classes either.
Anyway, that's why we are where we are right now. Looking forward, I think
there are a lot of things we should do to make WiX look more like C# and
less like C++. But that's for WiX v4.
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
edwin.cas...@fiserv.com wrote:
I think it would be really useful to have a ComponentRef of some kind so we
can split up file harvesting from actions that apply to some components.
ServiceInstall is just one example of this. Another common one I run into is
XmlFile and XmlConfig. The Xml elements can be placed in a component by
themselves and use a Registry Key as a KeyPath but I would really like to be
able to apply them to a ComponentRef of a file I harvested.
Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
-Original Message-
From: Pally Sandher [mailto:pally.sand...@iesve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:57 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
The service executable installed will point to the KeyPath for the
Component. Therefore, you must ensure that the correct executable is
either the first child File element under this Component or explicitly
mark the
appropriate File element as KeyPath='yes'.
From the Remarks section at
http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/wix_xsd_serviceinstall.htm
So at present, that's would be a no. That doesn't really sit right with
me but I
guess Rob M, Bob A et al had good reasons for making it like so.
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From: McKinnon, Chris [mailto:cmckin...@atb.com]
Sent: 26 October 2010 03:25
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
Hi,
I've separated my WiX installer into multiple fragment files. My windows
service is broken into ServiceFiles.wxs and ServiceActions.wxs, for
example. I ran into an issue where my service wasn't getting installed
because it wasn't in the same component as the executable anymore. Like
so:
Component Id=WindowsService_InstallService
Guid={8DE953A1-2D84-42ba-8A03-0A0F79CC3BCC}
CreateFolder /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description... DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
If I move the ServiceInstall back into the component with the file it
works
fine:
Component Id=WindowsService.exe Guid=*
File Id=WindowsService.exe KeyPath=yes
Source=Published\Service\WindowsService.exe /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description...
DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
Is there any way to separate the ServiceInstall out from the file
component? I'd like to keep my files in one fragment and actions on
another. I'm guessing no because there's no way to specify the
binPath
of the service but I thought I'd ask.
Thanks,
Chris McKinnon
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Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
The service executable installed will point to the KeyPath for the
Component. Therefore, you must ensure that the correct executable is
either the first child File element under this Component or explicitly
mark the appropriate File element as KeyPath='yes'.
From the Remarks section at
http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/wix_xsd_serviceinstall.htm
So at present, that's would be a no. That doesn't really sit right with
me but I guess Rob M, Bob A et al had good reasons for making it like
so.
Palbinder Sandher
Software Deployment IT Administrator
T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
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-Original Message-
From: McKinnon, Chris [mailto:cmckin...@atb.com]
Sent: 26 October 2010 03:25
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
Hi,
I've separated my WiX installer into multiple fragment files. My
windows service is broken into ServiceFiles.wxs and
ServiceActions.wxs, for example. I ran into an issue where my service
wasn't getting installed because it wasn't in the same component as the
executable anymore. Like so:
Component Id=WindowsService_InstallService
Guid={8DE953A1-2D84-42ba-8A03-0A0F79CC3BCC}
CreateFolder /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description... DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
If I move the ServiceInstall back into the component with the file it
works fine:
Component Id=WindowsService.exe Guid=*
File Id=WindowsService.exe KeyPath=yes
Source=Published\Service\WindowsService.exe /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description...
DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
Is there any way to separate the ServiceInstall out from the file
component? I'd like to keep my files in one fragment and actions on
another. I'm guessing no because there's no way to specify the
binPath of the service but I thought I'd ask.
Thanks,
Chris McKinnon
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Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
Thanks that's what I figured. It would be nice to get an error if you
make the mistake of not locating your ServiceInstall in a component with
an executable.
-Original Message-
From: Pally Sandher [mailto:pally.sand...@iesve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:57 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
The service executable installed will point to the KeyPath for the
Component. Therefore, you must ensure that the correct executable is
either the first child File element under this Component or explicitly
mark the appropriate File element as KeyPath='yes'.
From the Remarks section at
http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/wix_xsd_serviceinstall.htm
So at present, that's would be a no. That doesn't really sit right with
me but I guess Rob M, Bob A et al had good reasons for making it like
so.
Palbinder Sandher
Software Deployment IT Administrator
T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
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From: McKinnon, Chris [mailto:cmckin...@atb.com]
Sent: 26 October 2010 03:25
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
Hi,
I've separated my WiX installer into multiple fragment files. My
windows service is broken into ServiceFiles.wxs and
ServiceActions.wxs, for example. I ran into an issue where my service
wasn't getting installed because it wasn't in the same component as the
executable anymore. Like so:
Component Id=WindowsService_InstallService
Guid={8DE953A1-2D84-42ba-8A03-0A0F79CC3BCC}
CreateFolder /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description... DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
If I move the ServiceInstall back into the component with the file it
works fine:
Component Id=WindowsService.exe Guid=*
File Id=WindowsService.exe KeyPath=yes
Source=Published\Service\WindowsService.exe /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description...
DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
Is there any way to separate the ServiceInstall out from the file
component? I'd like to keep my files in one fragment and actions on
another. I'm guessing no because there's no way to specify the
binPath of the service but I thought I'd ask.
Thanks,
Chris McKinnon
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Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
I think it would be really useful to have a ComponentRef of some kind so we can
split up file harvesting from actions that apply to some components.
ServiceInstall is just one example of this. Another common one I run into is
XmlFile and XmlConfig. The Xml elements can be placed in a component by
themselves and use a Registry Key as a KeyPath but I would really like to be
able to apply them to a ComponentRef of a file I harvested.
Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
-Original Message-
From: Pally Sandher [mailto:pally.sand...@iesve.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 2:57 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
The service executable installed will point to the KeyPath for the
Component. Therefore, you must ensure that the correct executable is
either the first child File element under this Component or explicitly mark
the
appropriate File element as KeyPath='yes'.
From the Remarks section at
http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/wix_xsd_serviceinstall.htm
So at present, that's would be a no. That doesn't really sit right with me
but I
guess Rob M, Bob A et al had good reasons for making it like so.
Palbinder Sandher
Software Deployment IT Administrator
T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500
F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501
http://www.iesve.com
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From: McKinnon, Chris [mailto:cmckin...@atb.com]
Sent: 26 October 2010 03:25
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
Hi,
I've separated my WiX installer into multiple fragment files. My windows
service is broken into ServiceFiles.wxs and ServiceActions.wxs, for
example. I ran into an issue where my service wasn't getting installed
because it wasn't in the same component as the executable anymore. Like
so:
Component Id=WindowsService_InstallService
Guid={8DE953A1-2D84-42ba-8A03-0A0F79CC3BCC}
CreateFolder /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description... DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
If I move the ServiceInstall back into the component with the file it works
fine:
Component Id=WindowsService.exe Guid=*
File Id=WindowsService.exe KeyPath=yes
Source=Published\Service\WindowsService.exe /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description...
DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
Is there any way to separate the ServiceInstall out from the file
component? I'd like to keep my files in one fragment and actions on
another. I'm guessing no because there's no way to specify the binPath
of the service but I thought I'd ask.
Thanks,
Chris McKinnon
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[WiX-users] ServiceInstall in a different fragment?
Hi,
I've separated my WiX installer into multiple fragment files. My
windows service is broken into ServiceFiles.wxs and
ServiceActions.wxs, for example. I ran into an issue where my service
wasn't getting installed because it wasn't in the same component as the
executable anymore. Like so:
Component Id=WindowsService_InstallService
Guid={8DE953A1-2D84-42ba-8A03-0A0F79CC3BCC}
CreateFolder /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description... DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
If I move the ServiceInstall back into the component with the file it
works fine:
Component Id=WindowsService.exe Guid=*
File Id=WindowsService.exe KeyPath=yes
Source=Published\Service\WindowsService.exe /
ServiceInstall Id=InstallService ErrorControl=normal
Name=Windows Service Start=auto Type=ownProcess
Description=Description...
DisplayName=Windows Service
Account=[SERVICE_DOMAIN]\[SERVICE_ACCOUNT]
Password=[SERVICE_PASSWORD] Vital=yes /
/Component
Is there any way to separate the ServiceInstall out from the file
component? I'd like to keep my files in one fragment and actions on
another. I'm guessing no because there's no way to specify the
binPath of the service but I thought I'd ask.
Thanks,
Chris McKinnon
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