Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /xProductCode
Does v3.6 have the bundle self-update feature or only v3.7? Thank you, Michael Ogilvie Application Support Specialist | PixeLINK 1900 City Park Drive, Suite 410. Ottawa, Ontario K1J 1A3 tel: 613.247.1211 Ext. 242 | cell: 613.302.9844 | fax: 613.247.2001 | skype: pixelink.mogilvie www.pixelink.com -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:17 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /xProductCode Having the update URL come from outside the Bundle would be a very large security gap. Essentially, any Bundle could be used to launch any other random Bundle. That's not right. There is certainly work that could be done in the wixstdba to support bundle self-update but I don't think passing the update URL via the command-line is the right way to do that. smile/ On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: Sorry, for (1) I meant I don't want to do it from a custom BA. I want to do it by calling the bundle from the application software that my bundle installs. I know for wixstba you provide /uninstall and /repair commands. I use wixstba for my bundle so it would be nice if there was an /upgrade command line option in wixstba where I pass the URL of the update and the bundle downloads and installs it. Is this something that you guys can do for version 3.7? Thanks for the info on UninstallKey in the registry. I actually forgot about that. I see it has a BundleCachePath value so I can use that to call my bundle. All I need is for the wixstba to have a command line argument to do an upgrade. Questions 2 and 3 are moot now. Wes -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: October 14, 2012 12:37 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /x ProductCode 1. I don't quite understand the question. The bundle self-update feature allows a BA to check the internet and tell the engine that there is a newer version of itself and to download then launch that instead. It is not clear to me what the command-line has to do with it. 2. Bundles are registered in ARP (aka: Program and Features, aka: the UninstallKey). That's how you can click on the Uninstall button in ARP and Burn launches to remove the bundle. You can search for it that way if you want. 3. Again, the self-update happens inside a Burn bundle. It isn't driven from a command-line argument. I may just be confused by not understanding your first question. You always have the Bundle. It's cached. That's how ARP works. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: Hi, have some questions about wixstba: (1) Wix 3.7 bundle self update feature: Is it possible (or any plans to make it possible) to run from the command line? You would need to run the bundle exe (thus have to know where its located). There is already -uninstall, -repair, etc. (2) Since Windows installer is part of the operating system it is possible to install/uninstall/repair by running msiexec /x ProductCode. You don't need to have the MSi file or know where it is on the computer. Is there something similar for bundles? This question is really about burn in general. (3) Similar to (2) above but for the wix 3.7 self update feature: give an upgrade code and URL and have it download and upgrade the bundle. Is this possible? I was hoping to have our software update itself / show its own install progress UI so the user doesn't have to use the bundle for that (they may not have the bundle anymore). The bundle would only be used to install our software on a clean computer or if user goes to ARP they can interact with the bundle. I see in Wix37\src\burn\Samples there is an example on how to get progress from burn. I could write code to download the burn exe myself but burn can already download updates so... Wes -Original Message- From: James Johnston [mailto:johnst...@inn-soft.com] Sent: October-12-12 1:15 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Broken links on WiX web site Hi, The page at: http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/WixUI_dialog_library.htm contains some broken links. Specifically, WixUI_Mondo and WixUI_Minimal are broken (404 Not Found). Not sure who maintains the web site so I'm writing to this list... Best regards, James Johnston -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM Deploy New Relic app performance management and know exactly what is happening inside your Ruby, Python, PHP, Java, and .NET app Try New Relic at no cost
Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /xProductCode
New feature in v3.7: http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2012/8/21/Enter-WiX-v3.7-toolset On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Michael Ogilvie michael.ogil...@pixelink.com wrote: Does v3.6 have the bundle self-update feature or only v3.7? Thank you, Michael Ogilvie Application Support Specialist | PixeLINK 1900 City Park Drive, Suite 410. Ottawa, Ontario K1J 1A3 tel: 613.247.1211 Ext. 242 | cell: 613.302.9844 | fax: 613.247.2001 | skype: pixelink.mogilvie www.pixelink.com -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:17 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /xProductCode Having the update URL come from outside the Bundle would be a very large security gap. Essentially, any Bundle could be used to launch any other random Bundle. That's not right. There is certainly work that could be done in the wixstdba to support bundle self-update but I don't think passing the update URL via the command-line is the right way to do that. smile/ On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: Sorry, for (1) I meant I don't want to do it from a custom BA. I want to do it by calling the bundle from the application software that my bundle installs. I know for wixstba you provide /uninstall and /repair commands. I use wixstba for my bundle so it would be nice if there was an /upgrade command line option in wixstba where I pass the URL of the update and the bundle downloads and installs it. Is this something that you guys can do for version 3.7? Thanks for the info on UninstallKey in the registry. I actually forgot about that. I see it has a BundleCachePath value so I can use that to call my bundle. All I need is for the wixstba to have a command line argument to do an upgrade. Questions 2 and 3 are moot now. Wes -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: October 14, 2012 12:37 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /x ProductCode 1. I don't quite understand the question. The bundle self-update feature allows a BA to check the internet and tell the engine that there is a newer version of itself and to download then launch that instead. It is not clear to me what the command-line has to do with it. 2. Bundles are registered in ARP (aka: Program and Features, aka: the UninstallKey). That's how you can click on the Uninstall button in ARP and Burn launches to remove the bundle. You can search for it that way if you want. 3. Again, the self-update happens inside a Burn bundle. It isn't driven from a command-line argument. I may just be confused by not understanding your first question. You always have the Bundle. It's cached. That's how ARP works. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: Hi, have some questions about wixstba: (1) Wix 3.7 bundle self update feature: Is it possible (or any plans to make it possible) to run from the command line? You would need to run the bundle exe (thus have to know where its located). There is already -uninstall, -repair, etc. (2) Since Windows installer is part of the operating system it is possible to install/uninstall/repair by running msiexec /x ProductCode. You don't need to have the MSi file or know where it is on the computer. Is there something similar for bundles? This question is really about burn in general. (3) Similar to (2) above but for the wix 3.7 self update feature: give an upgrade code and URL and have it download and upgrade the bundle. Is this possible? I was hoping to have our software update itself / show its own install progress UI so the user doesn't have to use the bundle for that (they may not have the bundle anymore). The bundle would only be used to install our software on a clean computer or if user goes to ARP they can interact with the bundle. I see in Wix37\src\burn\Samples there is an example on how to get progress from burn. I could write code to download the burn exe myself but burn can already download updates so... Wes -Original Message- From: James Johnston [mailto:johnst...@inn-soft.com] Sent: October-12-12 1:15 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Broken links on WiX web site Hi, The page at: http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/WixUI_dialog_library.htm contains some broken links. Specifically, WixUI_Mondo and WixUI_Minimal are broken (404 Not Found). Not sure who maintains the web site so I'm writing to this list... Best regards, James Johnston
Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec/xProductCode
Thanks, I will try updating again and hopefully I don't have more issues Thank you, Michael Ogilvie Application Support Specialist | PixeLINK 1900 City Park Drive, Suite 410. Ottawa, Ontario K1J 1A3 tel: 613.247.1211 Ext. 242 | cell: 613.302.9844 | fax: 613.247.2001 | skype: pixelink.mogilvie www.pixelink.com -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:39 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec/xProductCode New feature in v3.7: http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2012/8/21/Enter-WiX-v3.7-toolset On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Michael Ogilvie michael.ogil...@pixelink.com wrote: Does v3.6 have the bundle self-update feature or only v3.7? Thank you, Michael Ogilvie Application Support Specialist | PixeLINK 1900 City Park Drive, Suite 410. Ottawa, Ontario K1J 1A3 tel: 613.247.1211 Ext. 242 | cell: 613.302.9844 | fax: 613.247.2001 | skype: pixelink.mogilvie www.pixelink.com -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:17 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /xProductCode Having the update URL come from outside the Bundle would be a very large security gap. Essentially, any Bundle could be used to launch any other random Bundle. That's not right. There is certainly work that could be done in the wixstdba to support bundle self-update but I don't think passing the update URL via the command-line is the right way to do that. smile/ On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: Sorry, for (1) I meant I don't want to do it from a custom BA. I want to do it by calling the bundle from the application software that my bundle installs. I know for wixstba you provide /uninstall and /repair commands. I use wixstba for my bundle so it would be nice if there was an /upgrade command line option in wixstba where I pass the URL of the update and the bundle downloads and installs it. Is this something that you guys can do for version 3.7? Thanks for the info on UninstallKey in the registry. I actually forgot about that. I see it has a BundleCachePath value so I can use that to call my bundle. All I need is for the wixstba to have a command line argument to do an upgrade. Questions 2 and 3 are moot now. Wes -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: October 14, 2012 12:37 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /x ProductCode 1. I don't quite understand the question. The bundle self-update feature allows a BA to check the internet and tell the engine that there is a newer version of itself and to download then launch that instead. It is not clear to me what the command-line has to do with it. 2. Bundles are registered in ARP (aka: Program and Features, aka: the UninstallKey). That's how you can click on the Uninstall button in ARP and Burn launches to remove the bundle. You can search for it that way if you want. 3. Again, the self-update happens inside a Burn bundle. It isn't driven from a command-line argument. I may just be confused by not understanding your first question. You always have the Bundle. It's cached. That's how ARP works. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: Hi, have some questions about wixstba: (1) Wix 3.7 bundle self update feature: Is it possible (or any plans to make it possible) to run from the command line? You would need to run the bundle exe (thus have to know where its located). There is already -uninstall, -repair, etc. (2) Since Windows installer is part of the operating system it is possible to install/uninstall/repair by running msiexec /x ProductCode. You don't need to have the MSi file or know where it is on the computer. Is there something similar for bundles? This question is really about burn in general. (3) Similar to (2) above but for the wix 3.7 self update feature: give an upgrade code and URL and have it download and upgrade the bundle. Is this possible? I was hoping to have our software update itself / show its own install progress UI so the user doesn't have to use the bundle for that (they may not have the bundle anymore). The bundle would only be used to install our software on a clean computer or if user goes to ARP they can interact with the bundle. I see in Wix37\src\burn\Samples there is an example on how to get progress from burn. I could write code to download the burn exe myself but burn can already download updates so
Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec/xProductCode
3.7 is in a development/potentially unstable state, so I wouldn't upgrade to 3.7 for a production deployment as of yet. -Original Message- From: Michael Ogilvie [mailto:michael.ogil...@pixelink.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 12:45 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec/xProductCode Thanks, I will try updating again and hopefully I don't have more issues Thank you, Michael Ogilvie Application Support Specialist | PixeLINK 1900 City Park Drive, Suite 410. Ottawa, Ontario K1J 1A3 tel: 613.247.1211 Ext. 242 | cell: 613.302.9844 | fax: 613.247.2001 | skype: pixelink.mogilvie www.pixelink.com -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:39 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec/xProductCode New feature in v3.7: http://robmensching.com/blog/posts/2012/8/21/Enter-WiX-v3.7-toolset On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Michael Ogilvie michael.ogil...@pixelink.com wrote: Does v3.6 have the bundle self-update feature or only v3.7? Thank you, Michael Ogilvie Application Support Specialist | PixeLINK 1900 City Park Drive, Suite 410. Ottawa, Ontario K1J 1A3 tel: 613.247.1211 Ext. 242 | cell: 613.302.9844 | fax: 613.247.2001 | skype: pixelink.mogilvie www.pixelink.com -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:17 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /xProductCode Having the update URL come from outside the Bundle would be a very large security gap. Essentially, any Bundle could be used to launch any other random Bundle. That's not right. There is certainly work that could be done in the wixstdba to support bundle self-update but I don't think passing the update URL via the command-line is the right way to do that. smile/ On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: Sorry, for (1) I meant I don't want to do it from a custom BA. I want to do it by calling the bundle from the application software that my bundle installs. I know for wixstba you provide /uninstall and /repair commands. I use wixstba for my bundle so it would be nice if there was an /upgrade command line option in wixstba where I pass the URL of the update and the bundle downloads and installs it. Is this something that you guys can do for version 3.7? Thanks for the info on UninstallKey in the registry. I actually forgot about that. I see it has a BundleCachePath value so I can use that to call my bundle. All I need is for the wixstba to have a command line argument to do an upgrade. Questions 2 and 3 are moot now. Wes -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: October 14, 2012 12:37 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Some in burn wixstba similar to msiexec /x ProductCode 1. I don't quite understand the question. The bundle self-update feature allows a BA to check the internet and tell the engine that there is a newer version of itself and to download then launch that instead. It is not clear to me what the command-line has to do with it. 2. Bundles are registered in ARP (aka: Program and Features, aka: the UninstallKey). That's how you can click on the Uninstall button in ARP and Burn launches to remove the bundle. You can search for it that way if you want. 3. Again, the self-update happens inside a Burn bundle. It isn't driven from a command-line argument. I may just be confused by not understanding your first question. You always have the Bundle. It's cached. That's how ARP works. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Wesley Manning wmann...@dynagen.ca wrote: Hi, have some questions about wixstba: (1) Wix 3.7 bundle self update feature: Is it possible (or any plans to make it possible) to run from the command line? You would need to run the bundle exe (thus have to know where its located). There is already -uninstall, -repair, etc. (2) Since Windows installer is part of the operating system it is possible to install/uninstall/repair by running msiexec /x ProductCode. You don't need to have the MSi file or know where it is on the computer. Is there something similar for bundles? This question is really about burn in general. (3) Similar to (2) above but for the wix 3.7 self update feature: give an upgrade code and URL and have it download and upgrade the bundle. Is this possible? I was hoping to have our software update itself / show its own install progress UI so the user doesn't have to use the bundle
