Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Rob Mensching
If they launched the bundle elevated.


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following cmdline
 present in the install log:
 cmdline: '-burn.unelevated BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC}
 {1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'

 In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the
 installer that would produce such a cmdline in the log?

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Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Vic Allen
More specifically, what does -burn.unelevated mean?  Does it suggest the user 
is using a non-admin account to perform the install?Also what does the number 
code following the GUIDs (and the GUIDs for that matter) represent? Is it 
unique for every installation? When I execute the same burn executable with a 
simple click using a non-admin account I simply see an empty string  (cmdline: 
'') for the cmdline in my install.log.  I'm wondering what the user would be 
doing different to generate that entry in the log.  From: alphaq...@hotmail.com
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 02:08:41 +
 Subject: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
 
 I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following cmdline 
 present in the install log:  
 cmdline: '-burn.unelevated BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC} 
 {1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'
 
 In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the installer 
 that would produce such a cmdline in the log? 
   
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Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Rob Mensching
The user is launching the bundle executable elevated and Burn is attempting
to unelevate. The GUIDs are cookies to do a secure handshake. It's all
internal details and could change in future versions of the engine (all the
burn. parameters are like this).

You can see all the code in src\burn\engine.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com wrote:

 More specifically, what does -burn.unelevated mean?  Does it suggest the
 user is using a non-admin account to perform the install?Also what does the
 number code following the GUIDs (and the GUIDs for that matter) represent?
 Is it unique for every installation? When I execute the same burn
 executable with a simple click using a non-admin account I simply see an
 empty string  (cmdline: '') for the cmdline in my install.log.  I'm
 wondering what the user would be doing different to generate that entry in
 the log.  From: alphaq...@hotmail.com
  To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 02:08:41 +
  Subject: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
 
  I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following
 cmdline present in the install log:
  cmdline: '-burn.unelevated
 BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC}
 {1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'
 
  In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the
 installer that would produce such a cmdline in the log?
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Vic Allen
Hello Rob. Thanks for your reply.  Please see my additional questions that got 
crossed in the mail with your reply.
The install scope for package in question is perMachine.  So Windows7 should 
have prompted the user for elevated credentials.  In this case, does it suggest 
that didn't happen?
  From: r...@robmensching.com
 Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 23:48:36 -0700
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
 
 If they launched the bundle elevated.
 
 
 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following cmdline
  present in the install log:
  cmdline: '-burn.unelevated BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC}
  {1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'
 
  In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the
  installer that would produce such a cmdline in the log?
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Vic Allen
Rob, bear with me.  I keep crossing your replies.Why would burn be attempting 
to unelevate?  From: alphaq...@hotmail.com
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 07:25:35 +




Hello Rob. Thanks for your reply.  Please see my additional questions that got 
crossed in the mail with your reply.

The install scope for package in question is perMachine.  So Windows7 should 
have prompted the user for elevated credentials.  In this case, does it suggest 
that didn't happen?
 
 From: r...@robmensching.com
 Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 23:48:36 -0700
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
 
 If they launched the bundle elevated.
 
 
 On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following cmdline
  present in the install log:
  cmdline: '-burn.unelevated BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC}
  {1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'
 
  In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the
  installer that would produce such a cmdline in the log?
 
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Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Vic Allen
Rob, bear with me.  I keep crossing your replies.
Why would burn be attempting to unelevate?
  From: r...@robmensching.com
 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 00:11:44 -0700
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
 
 The user is launching the bundle executable elevated and Burn is attempting
 to unelevate. The GUIDs are cookies to do a secure handshake. It's all
 internal details and could change in future versions of the engine (all the
 burn. parameters are like this).
 
 You can see all the code in src\burn\engine.
 
 
 On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  More specifically, what does -burn.unelevated mean?  Does it suggest the
  user is using a non-admin account to perform the install?Also what does the
  number code following the GUIDs (and the GUIDs for that matter) represent?
  Is it unique for every installation? When I execute the same burn
  executable with a simple click using a non-admin account I simply see an
  empty string  (cmdline: '') for the cmdline in my install.log.  I'm
  wondering what the user would be doing different to generate that entry in
  the log.  From: alphaq...@hotmail.com
   To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 02:08:41 +
   Subject: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
  
   I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following
  cmdline present in the install log:
   cmdline: '-burn.unelevated
  BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC}
  {1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'
  
   In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the
  installer that would produce such a cmdline in the log?
  
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Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Vic Allen
Could this be the root cause of a failed installation we are seeing (?): 
Error 0x80070002: Failed to cache bundle from: 
'C:\Users\user1\AppData\Local\Temp\{6B4546B4-B3AA-4063-821F-4C89938914C9}\.be\Setup.exe'
 to 'C:\ProgramData\Package 
Cache\{6B4546B4-B3AA-4063-821F-4C89938914C9}\Setup.exe'

The install should require elevated privileges as it is perMachine.  Why would 
burn be attempting to unelevate?  I greatly appreciate any help here.
  From: r...@robmensching.com
 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 00:11:44 -0700
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
 
 The user is launching the bundle executable elevated and Burn is attempting
 to unelevate. The GUIDs are cookies to do a secure handshake. It's all
 internal details and could change in future versions of the engine (all the
 burn. parameters are like this).
 
 You can see all the code in src\burn\engine.
 
 
 On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  More specifically, what does -burn.unelevated mean?  Does it suggest the
  user is using a non-admin account to perform the install?Also what does the
  number code following the GUIDs (and the GUIDs for that matter) represent?
  Is it unique for every installation? When I execute the same burn
  executable with a simple click using a non-admin account I simply see an
  empty string  (cmdline: '') for the cmdline in my install.log.  I'm
  wondering what the user would be doing different to generate that entry in
  the log.  From: alphaq...@hotmail.com
   To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 02:08:41 +
   Subject: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
  
   I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following
  cmdline present in the install log:
   cmdline: '-burn.unelevated
  BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC}
  {1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'
  
   In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the
  installer that would produce such a cmdline in the log?
  
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Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Rob Mensching
The BA runs unelevated so that operations it does are in the correct user
context and it does not modify machine state. This is standard Burn
behavior and it happens any time a Bundle is started elevated.

I don't know the root cause of the issue you are seeing there. There was a
bug a long time ago that looked like that but it appears you are using the
RTM version of WiX v3.7 and the bug was fixed (otherwise, we'd have lots of
people talking about the failure).

Is it possible that something is overzealously cleaning out the %TEMP%
drive? A Process Monitor watching that folder could be interesting. Maybe
some other process is coming along while Burn is working and deleting stuff
out from under it.

Or maybe there is some weird case you've found that exposes a different bug
in Burn. Not enough detail to really understand right now.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Could this be the root cause of a failed installation we are seeing (?):
 Error 0x80070002: Failed to cache bundle from:
 'C:\Users\user1\AppData\Local\Temp\{6B4546B4-B3AA-4063-821F-4C89938914C9}\.be\Setup.exe'
 to 'C:\ProgramData\Package
 Cache\{6B4546B4-B3AA-4063-821F-4C89938914C9}\Setup.exe'

 The install should require elevated privileges as it is perMachine.  Why
 would burn be attempting to unelevate?  I greatly appreciate any help here.
   From: r...@robmensching.com
  Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 00:11:44 -0700
  To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
 
  The user is launching the bundle executable elevated and Burn is
 attempting
  to unelevate. The GUIDs are cookies to do a secure handshake. It's all
  internal details and could change in future versions of the engine (all
 the
  burn. parameters are like this).
 
  You can see all the code in src\burn\engine.
 
 
  On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
   More specifically, what does -burn.unelevated mean?  Does it suggest
 the
   user is using a non-admin account to perform the install?Also what
 does the
   number code following the GUIDs (and the GUIDs for that matter)
 represent?
   Is it unique for every installation? When I execute the same burn
   executable with a simple click using a non-admin account I simply see
 an
   empty string  (cmdline: '') for the cmdline in my install.log.  I'm
   wondering what the user would be doing different to generate that
 entry in
   the log.  From: alphaq...@hotmail.com
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 02:08:41 +
Subject: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
   
I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following
   cmdline present in the install log:
cmdline: '-burn.unelevated
   BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC}
   {1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'
   
In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the
   installer that would produce such a cmdline in the log?
   
  
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Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-04 Thread Vic Allen
Rob,Thank you for taking the time!  Your insights have been helpful, and give 
me direction for further troubleshooting. 
 We appreciate the excellent product you've produced. From: 
r...@robmensching.com
 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 07:07:18 -0700
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
 
 The BA runs unelevated so that operations it does are in the correct user
 context and it does not modify machine state. This is standard Burn
 behavior and it happens any time a Bundle is started elevated.
 
 I don't know the root cause of the issue you are seeing there. There was a
 bug a long time ago that looked like that but it appears you are using the
 RTM version of WiX v3.7 and the bug was fixed (otherwise, we'd have lots of
 people talking about the failure).
 
 Is it possible that something is overzealously cleaning out the %TEMP%
 drive? A Process Monitor watching that folder could be interesting. Maybe
 some other process is coming along while Burn is working and deleting stuff
 out from under it.
 
 Or maybe there is some weird case you've found that exposes a different bug
 in Burn. Not enough detail to really understand right now.
 
 
 On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  Could this be the root cause of a failed installation we are seeing (?):
  Error 0x80070002: Failed to cache bundle from:
  'C:\Users\user1\AppData\Local\Temp\{6B4546B4-B3AA-4063-821F-4C89938914C9}\.be\Setup.exe'
  to 'C:\ProgramData\Package
  Cache\{6B4546B4-B3AA-4063-821F-4C89938914C9}\Setup.exe'
 
  The install should require elevated privileges as it is perMachine.  Why
  would burn be attempting to unelevate?  I greatly appreciate any help here.
From: r...@robmensching.com
   Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 00:11:44 -0700
   To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
   Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline
  
   The user is launching the bundle executable elevated and Burn is
  attempting
   to unelevate. The GUIDs are cookies to do a secure handshake. It's all
   internal details and could change in future versions of the engine (all
  the
   burn. parameters are like this).
  
   You can see all the code in src\burn\engine.
  
  
   On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Vic Allen alphaq...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
  
More specifically, what does -burn.unelevated mean?  Does it suggest
  the
user is using a non-admin account to perform the install?Also what
  does the
number code following the GUIDs (and the GUIDs for that matter)
  represent?
Is it unique for every installation? When I execute the same burn
executable with a simple click using a non-admin account I simply see
  an
empty string  (cmdline: '') for the cmdline in my install.log.  I'm
wondering what the user would be doing different to generate that
  entry in
the log.  From: alphaq...@hotmail.com
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 Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 02:08:41 +
 Subject: [WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

 I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following
cmdline present in the install log:
 cmdline: '-burn.unelevated
BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC}
{1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'

 In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the
installer that would produce such a cmdline in the log?

   
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[WiX-users] Understanding Burn log cmdline

2013-05-03 Thread Vic Allen
I'm using Burn v3.7.1224.0.  What is the meaning of the following cmdline 
present in the install log:  
cmdline: '-burn.unelevated BurnPipe.{BA274BA7-1C44-402F-9E0C-5919915C3ADC} 
{1B81FC8C-86AE-416C-AD37-DC7B377EDBCB} 716'

In other words, under what circumstances would a user execute the installer 
that would produce such a cmdline in the log?   
  
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