Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

2010-08-20 Thread Blair
Or, alter your upgrade table to something that allows whatever your SxS
story is.

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On 10-08-19 1:10 PM, Wilson, Phil wrote:
 and it might help to look at it in terms of a product line. Using two
products as an example:

 Prod1 v1.0 =  Prod1 v2.0 =  Prod1 =  v3.0

 And

 Prod2 v10.0 =  Prod2 v11.0 =  Prod2 =  v12.0

 Each of these is a product line where each new version is intended to
replace any already-installed pre-existing versions. Prod1 and Prod2 would
each have their own unique UpgradeId for the life of the product although
each version would have a new ProductCode. The point is that Windows makes
it easy to do the upgrades because all you do is use the Upgrade table to
say which previous versions you want to upgrade. You get the
uninstall/upgrade for free with RemoveExistingProducts.

 Phil Wilson

A corollary is if you want to install major versions side-by-side, you 
should use a different UpgradeCode for each major version, correct?

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Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

2010-08-20 Thread Sohail Somani
Oh, I'm trying to keep it simple here :)

On 10-08-20 4:14 PM, Blair wrote:
 Or, alter your upgrade table to something that allows whatever your SxS
 story is.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sohail Somani [mailto:soh...@taggedtype.net]
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:38 PM
 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

 On 10-08-19 1:10 PM, Wilson, Phil wrote:
 and it might help to look at it in terms of a product line. Using two
 products as an example:

 Prod1 v1.0 =   Prod1 v2.0 =   Prod1 =   v3.0

 And

 Prod2 v10.0 =   Prod2 v11.0 =   Prod2 =   v12.0

 Each of these is a product line where each new version is intended to
 replace any already-installed pre-existing versions. Prod1 and Prod2 would
 each have their own unique UpgradeId for the life of the product although
 each version would have a new ProductCode. The point is that Windows makes
 it easy to do the upgrades because all you do is use the Upgrade table to
 say which previous versions you want to upgrade. You get the
 uninstall/upgrade for free with RemoveExistingProducts.

 Phil Wilson

 A corollary is if you want to install major versions side-by-side, you
 should use a different UpgradeCode for each major version, correct?



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[WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

2010-08-19 Thread gapearce

What is the point of the UpgradeGUID?

It appears that it is something independent of the product code - which
means that we could leave the upgrade GUID the same for a variety of
versions which means uninstall anything w/ this upgrade code.  

Or, does it mean that we can specify all known product GUIDs of all
installers we have built and release, to say remove them before
installing?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

2010-08-19 Thread Yan Sklyarenko
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372379(VS.85).aspx

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What is the point of the UpgradeGUID?

It appears that it is something independent of the product code - which
means that we could leave the upgrade GUID the same for a variety of
versions which means uninstall anything w/ this upgrade code.  

Or, does it mean that we can specify all known product GUIDs of all
installers we have built and release, to say remove them before
installing?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

2010-08-19 Thread Pally Sandher
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From: gapearce [mailto:mr_gapea...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 19 August 2010 16:28
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Subject: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question


What is the point of the UpgradeGUID?

It appears that it is something independent of the product code - which
means that we could leave the upgrade GUID the same for a variety of
versions which means uninstall anything w/ this upgrade code.  

Or, does it mean that we can specify all known product GUIDs of all
installers we have built and release, to say remove them before
installing?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

2010-08-19 Thread Wilson, Phil
and it might help to look at it in terms of a product line. Using two 
products as an example: 

Prod1 v1.0 = Prod1 v2.0 = Prod1 = v3.0 

And 

Prod2 v10.0 = Prod2 v11.0 = Prod2 = v12.0

Each of these is a product line where each new version is intended to replace 
any already-installed pre-existing versions. Prod1 and Prod2 would each have 
their own unique UpgradeId for the life of the product although each version 
would have a new ProductCode. The point is that Windows makes it easy to do the 
upgrades because all you do is use the Upgrade table to say which previous 
versions you want to upgrade. You get the uninstall/upgrade for free with 
RemoveExistingProducts. 

Phil Wilson 


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http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372379.aspx

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From: gapearce [mailto:mr_gapea...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 19 August 2010 16:28
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question


What is the point of the UpgradeGUID?

It appears that it is something independent of the product code - which
means that we could leave the upgrade GUID the same for a variety of
versions which means uninstall anything w/ this upgrade code.  

Or, does it mean that we can specify all known product GUIDs of all
installers we have built and release, to say remove them before
installing?

Thanks in advance...

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Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

2010-08-19 Thread Sohail Somani
On 10-08-19 1:10 PM, Wilson, Phil wrote:
 and it might help to look at it in terms of a product line. Using two 
 products as an example:

 Prod1 v1.0 =  Prod1 v2.0 =  Prod1 =  v3.0

 And

 Prod2 v10.0 =  Prod2 v11.0 =  Prod2 =  v12.0

 Each of these is a product line where each new version is intended to replace 
 any already-installed pre-existing versions. Prod1 and Prod2 would each have 
 their own unique UpgradeId for the life of the product although each version 
 would have a new ProductCode. The point is that Windows makes it easy to do 
 the upgrades because all you do is use the Upgrade table to say which 
 previous versions you want to upgrade. You get the uninstall/upgrade for free 
 with RemoveExistingProducts.

 Phil Wilson

A corollary is if you want to install major versions side-by-side, you 
should use a different UpgradeCode for each major version, correct?

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Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

2010-08-19 Thread Wilson, Phil
Yes, correct. 

Phil Wilson 

-Original Message-
From: Sohail Somani [mailto:soh...@taggedtype.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:38 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] UpgradeGUID question

On 10-08-19 1:10 PM, Wilson, Phil wrote:
 and it might help to look at it in terms of a product line. Using two 
 products as an example:

 Prod1 v1.0 =  Prod1 v2.0 =  Prod1 =  v3.0

 And

 Prod2 v10.0 =  Prod2 v11.0 =  Prod2 =  v12.0

 Each of these is a product line where each new version is intended to replace 
 any already-installed pre-existing versions. Prod1 and Prod2 would each have 
 their own unique UpgradeId for the life of the product although each version 
 would have a new ProductCode. The point is that Windows makes it easy to do 
 the upgrades because all you do is use the Upgrade table to say which 
 previous versions you want to upgrade. You get the uninstall/upgrade for free 
 with RemoveExistingProducts.

 Phil Wilson

A corollary is if you want to install major versions side-by-side, you 
should use a different UpgradeCode for each major version, correct?

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