Re: [WiX-users] installing files to user's application data folder
Pally Sandher wrote: > > That looks OK if it's passing the ICE tests now as it's much like the > sample in the How to create a shortcut > (http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/create_start_menu_shortcut.htm). > Shortcuts are still files as far as the file system is concerned so > copying that sample for your own needs should be fine. > The only lingering reason that I don't like this method, is that I have to create additional empty components to remove the layers of subdirectories (3 deep in places). Fortunately, they don't get removed if there's other stuff in there, so it just looks sloppy in the WiX file, nowhere else. Pally Sandher wrote: > > My only question would be do you need to use AppDataFolder as it's a > user-specific directory? If you're doing a per-machine installation does > the app your software is an add-on for allow you to use > CommonAppDataFolder instead? Also AppDataFolder is the Roaming folder > (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367565.aspx) are you sure you > shouldn't be using LocalAppDataFolder > (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369768.aspx) instead if you > have to use a user-specific directory? > For various reasons, we need a per-user install. If I understand correctly, that's the default when you don't explicitly set the ALLUSERS property in WiX. At the very least, setting it explicitly to the empty string, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367559%28VS.85%29.aspx as specified on MSDN , doesn't compile (error CNDL0006) and instructs you to remove the attribute, which I assume is equivalent to removing the whole tag altogether. Please correct me if I'm wrong. And, yes, we're installing to AppDataFolder, not LocalAppDataFolder. That's where the 3rd-party software expects the add-on component XML files. Incidentally, this 3rd-party software only runs on XP (don't get me started), so that's our target as well. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/installing-files-to-user-s-application-data-folder-tp5377311p5381665.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] installing files to user's application data folder
That looks OK if it's passing the ICE tests now as it's much like the sample in the How to create a shortcut (http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/create_start_menu_shortcut.htm). Shortcuts are still files as far as the file system is concerned so copying that sample for your own needs should be fine. My only question would be do you need to use AppDataFolder as it's a user-specific directory? If you're doing a per-machine installation does the app your software is an add-on for allow you to use CommonAppDataFolder instead? Also AppDataFolder is the Roaming folder (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367565.aspx) are you sure you shouldn't be using LocalAppDataFolder (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369768.aspx) instead if you have to use a user-specific directory? Palbinder Sandher Software Deployment & IT Administrator T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 http://www.iesve.com **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the ** Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No. SC151456 Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park, Glasgow G20 0SP Email Disclaimer -Original Message- From: michaelrepucci [mailto:mich...@repucci.org] Sent: 05 August 2010 19:35 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] installing files to user's application data folder Oh, my bad. I forgot the that belongs in each component. Still not an elegant solution, so comments welcome. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/installing -files-to-user-s-application-data-folder-tp5377311p5377751.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Make an app they can't live without Enter the BlackBerry Developer Challenge http://p.sf.net/sfu/RIM-dev2dev ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] installing files to user's application data folder
Oh, my bad. I forgot the that belongs in each component. Still not an elegant solution, so comments welcome. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/installing-files-to-user-s-application-data-folder-tp5377311p5377751.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] installing files to user's application data folder
I did find a work-around for the ICE64 errors, but it seems a bit clunky (see below). Can anybody confirm whether this is the correct way to do this? -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/installing-files-to-user-s-application-data-folder-tp5377311p5377739.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] installing files to user's application data folder
Chris Lord-2 wrote: > > With only one file in the component, you probably don't need the > KeyPath. My WXS doesn't need the KeyPath for a file (I have a single > file in each component) and it passes all ICE tests. > I would have thought so, but I get the same ICE38 error. Based on the MSDN documentation - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368961%28VS.85%29.aspx - the registry key is required for any file placed in the user's profile. I suppose it's not worth asking why this is the case; I should just accept that's how it is. But it threw up a red flag for me that perhaps I wasn't putting files into the AppDataFolder in the correct or recommended way. Chris Lord-2 wrote: > > As far as putting files into a specific user folder that should be OK if > you are doing a per-user install. I suspect though that you are not and > are doing a per-machine install instead in which case placing files in a > specific users folder is fraught with problems and hence the warning. > I guess I must admit that I'm not sure what I'm doing. I thought (assumed) that I was doing a per-user install (that's my intention), but honestly don't know how to switch from per-user to per-machine or vice versa. I don't recall learning this from the tutorials, so any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks! -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/installing-files-to-user-s-application-data-folder-tp5377311p5377658.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] installing files to user's application data folder
Michael, With only one file in the component, you probably don't need the KeyPath. My WXS doesn't need the KeyPath for a file (I have a single file in each component) and it passes all ICE tests. As far as putting files into a specific user folder that should be OK if you are doing a per-user install. I suspect though that you are not and are doing a per-machine install instead in which case placing files in a specific users folder is fraught with problems and hence the warning. For example, what if another user tries to uninstall you application? They won't be able to access the file as its in another users files and thus the installer can't remove it and leaving files behind is considered bad installation design. If you are doing a per-machine install, then you should place the file into a common folder rather than a specific user folder. Chris On 08/05/2010 12:37 PM, michaelrepucci wrote: > I'm a complete newbie to WiX and Windows Installer. I've worked through the > tutorials and documentation, and feel pretty comfortable with all the > basics. Now I'm trying to create an installer to fit my requirements, and > while the basic install of the app and shortcuts, including conditions, and > custom UI, works just fine, I'm struggling with a special requirement. > > What I have is an app that can run standalone, or can act as an add-on to a > 3rd-party software package. I can install the app just fine, but in order to > add a reference to my app on the toolbar of the 3rd-party software, I need > to install some XML files to the user's %Application Data% folder. I started > with: > > > > > >Source="the.xml" DiskId="1" > KeyPath="yes" /> > > > > > > but I get an ICE38 error that says I can't use the file as the KeyPath. I > don't understand why that's the case, since I can use my app's file as the > KeyPath in the primary component (not shown). I tried searching online for > this issue, but all I found were people placing shortcuts into the user's > profile, not files. Perhaps I'm installing this file in a non-standard > manner. Is there another recommended way to do this? In a similar manner as > for shortcuts - but what I feel is a hack in this situation - I can add a > registry value to the Component tag as the KeyPath to prevent this error. > > However, I also get a couple ICE64 errors about these user profile > directories not being in the RemoveFile table. I thought I'd solve those > issue by adding the following within the Component tag: > > > > > but it doesn't seem to notice these entries. Where do I have to place them? > BTW, these directories may or may not exist, depending on whether the user > has other add-ons installed for this 3rd-party software. So I wouldn't > necessarily want the RemoveFolder tag to remove the folder, but to do so > only if my installer had to create the directories. I assume this is the > default behavior, but please let me know if it is not. > > Thank you in advance for your help! > > -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
[WiX-users] installing files to user's application data folder
I'm a complete newbie to WiX and Windows Installer. I've worked through the tutorials and documentation, and feel pretty comfortable with all the basics. Now I'm trying to create an installer to fit my requirements, and while the basic install of the app and shortcuts, including conditions, and custom UI, works just fine, I'm struggling with a special requirement. What I have is an app that can run standalone, or can act as an add-on to a 3rd-party software package. I can install the app just fine, but in order to add a reference to my app on the toolbar of the 3rd-party software, I need to install some XML files to the user's %Application Data% folder. I started with: but I get an ICE38 error that says I can't use the file as the KeyPath. I don't understand why that's the case, since I can use my app's file as the KeyPath in the primary component (not shown). I tried searching online for this issue, but all I found were people placing shortcuts into the user's profile, not files. Perhaps I'm installing this file in a non-standard manner. Is there another recommended way to do this? In a similar manner as for shortcuts - but what I feel is a hack in this situation - I can add a registry value to the Component tag as the KeyPath to prevent this error. However, I also get a couple ICE64 errors about these user profile directories not being in the RemoveFile table. I thought I'd solve those issue by adding the following within the Component tag: but it doesn't seem to notice these entries. Where do I have to place them? BTW, these directories may or may not exist, depending on whether the user has other add-ons installed for this 3rd-party software. So I wouldn't necessarily want the RemoveFolder tag to remove the folder, but to do so only if my installer had to create the directories. I assume this is the default behavior, but please let me know if it is not. Thank you in advance for your help! -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/installing-files-to-user-s-application-data-folder-tp5377311p5377311.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
