Re: [WiX-users] wix uninstall dialog

2009-05-08 Thread Bob Arnson
Michael Urman wrote:
> I don't think it would be as bad as your claim suggests. If for
> example a modeless dialog called MsiBasicSetupProgress were used when

That would break an explicit MSI contract: That a basic UI is modeless. 
MSI already has the reduced UI level which seems about what you're 
asking for, but ARP doesn't use it. I suspect that's intentional.

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Re: [WiX-users] wix uninstall dialog

2009-05-07 Thread Rob Mensching
This is an academic discussion here. AFAIK, the Windows Installer team 
doesn't look for feature requests on the wix-us...@list.sourceforge.net 


Michael Urman wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 08:34, Bob Arnson  wrote:
>   
>> Maybe. But why would they start a turf war with the shell team? All it
>> would do is ensure thousands of new packages that couldn't be
>> uninstalled silently, deployed via GPO, and major-upgraded in their next
>> release.
>> 
>
> I don't think it would be as bad as your claim suggests. If for
> example a modeless dialog called MsiBasicSetupProgress were used when
> available, this dialog could show simple customizations an ISV might
> want (logos, images, fonts) without using the UI sequence. Of course
> extra buttons on this dialog could launch custom actions that exceed
> these limitations, but that would require a user to click on them
> first.
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Re: [WiX-users] wix uninstall dialog

2009-05-07 Thread Michael Urman
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 08:34, Bob Arnson  wrote:
> Maybe. But why would they start a turf war with the shell team? All it
> would do is ensure thousands of new packages that couldn't be
> uninstalled silently, deployed via GPO, and major-upgraded in their next
> release.

I don't think it would be as bad as your claim suggests. If for
example a modeless dialog called MsiBasicSetupProgress were used when
available, this dialog could show simple customizations an ISV might
want (logos, images, fonts) without using the UI sequence. Of course
extra buttons on this dialog could launch custom actions that exceed
these limitations, but that would require a user to click on them
first.

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Re: [WiX-users] wix uninstall dialog

2009-05-07 Thread Bob Arnson
Michael Urman wrote:
> Truly. However Windows Installer could theoretically add support for
> customizing the basic UI experience without requiring the shell to
> change.
>   

Maybe. But why would they start a turf war with the shell team? All it 
would do is ensure thousands of new packages that couldn't be 
uninstalled silently, deployed via GPO, and major-upgraded in their next 
release.

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Re: [WiX-users] wix uninstall dialog

2009-05-06 Thread Michael Urman
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 19:39, Bob Arnson  wrote:
>
> It's the shell that runs uninstalls with basic UI. Even less likely to
> change.
>

Truly. However Windows Installer could theoretically add support for
customizing the basic UI experience without requiring the shell to
change.

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Re: [WiX-users] wix uninstall dialog

2009-05-06 Thread Bob Arnson
Rob Mensching wrote:
> That's a Windows Installer decision. If it changes, it'll change because 
> of them, not the WiX toolset.
>   

It's the shell that runs uninstalls with basic UI. Even less likely to 
change.

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Re: [WiX-users] wix uninstall dialog

2009-05-06 Thread Rob Mensching
That's a Windows Installer decision. If it changes, it'll change because 
of them, not the WiX toolset.

Yu, Brian wrote:
> Is it still the case where we cannot custom uninstallation?
>
>
>
> On 10/5/06, Bob Arnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Alex Mendes da Costa wrote:
>> 
>
>   
>>> I'm working on setting up an installer using WiX.  When I uninstall
>>>   
>
>   
>>> my product, there's a dialog box displayed that just has a progress
>>>   
> bar.
>
>   
>
>   
>>> I'd like to customize this uninstall dialog with some strings that
>>>   
>
>   
>>> explain to the user what's going on.  Please would you let me know
>>>   
>
>   
>>> how to do that.  I haven't found anything relevant in any of the
>>>   
>
>   
>>> documentation or in the examples that come with WiX.
>>>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>> You can add ProgressText elements to add strings for each action but
>> 
>
>   
>> otherwise Add/Remove Programs runs uninstalls in "basic" UI mode so
>> 
>
>   
>> customization isn't possible.
>> 
>
>
>
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[WiX-users] wix uninstall dialog

2009-05-06 Thread Yu, Brian
Is it still the case where we cannot custom uninstallation?

 

On 10/5/06, Bob Arnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Alex Mendes da Costa wrote:

> > I'm working on setting up an installer using WiX.  When I uninstall 

> > my product, there's a dialog box displayed that just has a progress
bar.

> >

> > I'd like to customize this uninstall dialog with some strings that 

> > explain to the user what's going on.  Please would you let me know 

> > how to do that.  I haven't found anything relevant in any of the 

> > documentation or in the examples that come with WiX.

> >

> 

> You can add ProgressText elements to add strings for each action but 

> otherwise Add/Remove Programs runs uninstalls in "basic" UI mode so 

> customization isn't possible.

 


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