Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-13 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 3/11/2011 9:27 AM, Kevin Burton wrote:
> Along these same lines I tried building the CA project setting the target as 
> x64 just to see if this made a difference. I did get a different error 
> message but it still didn't work:
>
> MSI (s) (60:80) [08:07:23:231]: Created Custom Action Server with PID 5428 
> (0x1534).
> MSI (s) (60:C0) [08:07:23:278]: Running as a service.
> MSI (s) (60:C0) [08:07:23:278]: Hello, I'm your 32bit Impersonated custom 
> action server.
> Action start 8:07:23: CA_CheckCredentials.
> SFXCA: Extracting custom action to temporary directory: 
> D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI463.tmp-\
> SFXCA: Binding to CLR version v4.0.30319
> Calling custom action 
> BrainCustomActions!BuySeasons.BsiServices.Install.CustomActions.CheckCredentials
> Error: could not load custom action class 
> BuySeasons.BsiServices.Install.CustomActions from assembly: BrainCustomActions
> System.BadImageFormatException: Could not load file or assembly 
> 'BrainCustomActions' or one of its dependencies. An attempt was made to load 
> a program with an incorrect format.
> File name: 'BrainCustomActions'
> at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly._nLoad(AssemblyName fileName, String 
> codeBase, Evidence assemblySecurity, RuntimeAssembly locationHint, 
> StackCrawlMark&  stackMark, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound, Boolean 
> forIntrospection, Boolean suppressSecurityChecks)
> at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.nLoad(AssemblyName fileName, String 
> codeBase, Evidence assemblySecurity, RuntimeAssembly locationHint, 
> StackCrawlMark&  stackMark, Boolean throwOnFileNotFound, Boolean 
> forIntrospection, Boolean suppressSecurityChecks)
> at 
> System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.InternalLoadAssemblyName(AssemblyName 
> assemblyRef, Evidence assemblySecurity, StackCrawlMark&  stackMark, Boolean 
> forIntrospection, Boolean suppressSecurityChecks)
> at System.Reflection.RuntimeAssembly.InternalLoad(String assemblyString, 
> Evidence assemblySecurity, StackCrawlMark&  stackMark, Boolean 
> forIntrospection)
> at System.AppDomain.Load(String assemblyString)
> at 
> Microsoft.Deployment.WindowsInstaller.CustomActionProxy.GetCustomActionMethod(Session
>  session, String assemblyName, String className, String methodName)
>

This error is because you are trying to load the x64 
assembly into an x86 runtime environment. Note the line 
immediately before your custom action is called:

"Hello, I'm your 32bit Impersonated custom action server."

That's coming from MSI and is telling you that MSI's running 
in 32-bit mode already. Remember, the MSI itself is already 
targeting a specific architecture, as specified by the 
Platform attribute on your Package tag. Your MSI is a 32-bit 
MSI, so everything it loads needs to be 32-bit as well.

Ideally you should be building two separate packages, one 
for each arch. By setting up your Solution build 
configurations properly this is pretty simple, and will 
build a 64-bit MSI with a 64-bit CA project, and 32-bit MSI 
with a 32-bit CA project. The key here is that WiX defines a 
Platform variable that matches the platform for the 
currently building configuration, so you would do things like:



For more details on the MSI side of things, see:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/heaths/archive/2008/01/15/different-packages-are-required-for-different-processor-architectures.aspx

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Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-11 Thread Christopher Painter

 You might find this an interesting read:

http://blog.deploymentengineering.com/2008/05/deployment-tools-foundation-dtf-custom.html


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- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. 

Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 10:53:29 AM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

FYI: The "DLL" is a .NET assembly. The "CA.dll" is a native C++ assembly that 
is 
responsible for setting up the .NET environment needed to run the .NET "DLL". 
As 
you found out, you need the bitness of the "CA.dll" to match the target machine.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 6:40 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I am sorry I had inadvertently set the  tag to the DLL *not* the 
CA.dll
> so with the compile target of the CA specifically set to x86 (*not* Any CPU)
> the CA is called correctly. Thank you.
>
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:49 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I think I hit something like that.  Try building the CA with AnyCPU as the
> platform rather than 32/64
>
> I have got that error when I forgot the public on the class, though
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 12:05 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> Thank you Michael,
>
> I tried
>
>    public class CustomActions
>    {
>        private static int checkCount = 1;
>        [CustomAction]
>        public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
>        {
>
> With the same error in the log file. It seems more related to the assembly
> than the scope of the method. The error indicates that the DLL "could not be
> run". I don't think the process has even gotten to the point of looking for 
the
> member. Something is wrong with the DLL that is produced by the custom
> action project that is integrated with Visual Studio.
> I think the issue that the .msi is compiled and built (and the CA project) in 
a
> 32 bit environment and the .msi is installing to a 64-bit environment may be
> more of the problem. Although I am not sure how to tackle it if this is indeed
> the problem. So the  element that makes the DLL part of the .msi
> maybe needs to know about the "bited-ness: of the source and target. All of
> this is just supposition as I am a relative beginner with WiX.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:08 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> Hi Kevin
>
> I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call
>
>
>        private static bool CheckCredentials
>
>
> Should be something like:
>
>        [CustomAction]
>        public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
>
> The class it is a member of also needs to be public.
>
> Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.
>
> Michael
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the
> installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the
> installation so when the installation locks the account (because of bad
> credentials) there is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy
> deployment because of similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout
> with a CA that would sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-11 Thread Kevin Burton
So cross-compile fails (trying to compile x64 on a x86 machine) but running x86 
on an x64 platform works and 'Any CPU' fails. At least that has been my 
experience.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 2:10 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I have not tried AnyCPU as that only makes sense if the C++ CA dll is written 
in C++/CLI. The native C++ CA dll is very likely not written in C++/CLI because 
we are trying to avoid loading up a .NET assembly to begin with. So... we need 
to specify an actual platform (x86 or x64).

I have not built my project on a 32-bit machine so I don't know if there are 
any warnings generated but I would not expect to see any errors. My psychic 
guess is that any warnings generated are trying to tell you that the DLL was 
cross compiled and will not work on the build machine. Such a warning would 
make sense and be expected.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 11:29 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> It looks like the only difference is the fact that I am compiling on
> an x86 platform. Have you tried 'Any CPU'? When I specify 'Any CPU'
> the CA will not run with the afore mentioned errors in the log.
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 1:00 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I have a custom action library written in C#  with Debug and Release
> configurations and only x64 platform. I manually removed the x86 platform.
> Here are snippets from the .csproj:
>
> 
> Debug
> x64
> ...
> 
> 
> ...
> 
> 
> ...
> 
>
> This builds fine without problems (no warnings and no errors) but I am
> building on a x64 machine. I have not built this project on a x86
> machine. The custom action dll also performs flawlessly when used in an 
> installer.
>
> The toolset works for me as I would expect it to work. If you are
> targeting x64, then you should build x64 custom actions. The project
> templates provided by the toolset work pretty good. There's really no
> need to write your own build scripts (I have a feeling you might be
> writing your own build scripts).
>
> Edwin G. Castro
> Software Developer - Staff
> Electronic Banking Services
> Fiserv
> Office: 503-746-0643
> Fax: 503-617-0291
> www.fiserv.com
> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
>
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:01 AM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >
> > Actually I had to specifically compile to x86 before it would work
> > even though the target machine was x64. If I specifically compiled
> > to
> > x64 I received a warning on the build machine what I am compiling to
> > something different than the current machine but when it came to
> > running on the target machine that was actually x64 I ran into
> > another error but it didn't work. The takeaway is that no matter
> > what the target machine is you have to set x86 when building the
> > .NET CA. Any CPU doesn't work and x64 doesn't seem to work either.
> >
> > Kevin Burton
> > Senior Software Engineer
> > BUYSEASONS
> > 262-901-2000 Office
> > 262-901-2312 Fax
> > kev...@buyseasons.com
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:53 AM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >
> > FYI: The "DLL" is a .NET assembly. The "CA.dll" is a native C++
> > assembly that is responsible for setting up the .NET environment

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-11 Thread Kevin Burton
It looks like the only difference is the fact that I am compiling on an x86 
platform. Have you tried 'Any CPU'? When I specify 'Any CPU' the CA will not 
run with the afore mentioned errors in the log.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 1:00 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I have a custom action library written in C#  with Debug and Release 
configurations and only x64 platform. I manually removed the x86 platform. Here 
are snippets from the .csproj:


Debug
x64
...


...


...


This builds fine without problems (no warnings and no errors) but I am building 
on a x64 machine. I have not built this project on a x86 machine. The custom 
action dll also performs flawlessly when used in an installer.

The toolset works for me as I would expect it to work. If you are targeting 
x64, then you should build x64 custom actions. The project templates provided 
by the toolset work pretty good. There's really no need to write your own build 
scripts (I have a feeling you might be writing your own build scripts).

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:01 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> Actually I had to specifically compile to x86 before it would work
> even though the target machine was x64. If I specifically compiled to
> x64 I received a warning on the build machine what I am compiling to
> something different than the current machine but when it came to
> running on the target machine that was actually x64 I ran into another
> error but it didn't work. The takeaway is that no matter what the
> target machine is you have to set x86 when building the .NET CA. Any
> CPU doesn't work and x64 doesn't seem to work either.
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:53 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> FYI: The "DLL" is a .NET assembly. The "CA.dll" is a native C++
> assembly that is responsible for setting up the .NET environment
> needed to run the .NET "DLL". As you found out, you need the bitness
> of the "CA.dll" to match the target machine.
>
> Edwin G. Castro
> Software Developer - Staff
> Electronic Banking Services
> Fiserv
> Office: 503-746-0643
> Fax: 503-617-0291
> www.fiserv.com
> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
>
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 6:40 AM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >
> > I am sorry I had inadvertently set the  tag to the DLL *not*
> > the CA.dll so with the compile target of the CA specifically set to
> > x86 (*not* Any CPU) the CA is called correctly. Thank you.
> >
> >
> > Kevin Burton
> > Senior Software Engineer
> > BUYSEASONS
> > 262-901-2000 Office
> > 262-901-2312 Fax
> > kev...@buyseasons.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:49 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >
> > I think I hit something like that.  Try building the CA with AnyCPU
> > as the platform rather than 32/64
> >
> > I have got that error when I forgot the public on the class, though
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> > Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 12:05 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >
> > Thank you Michael,
> >
> > I tried
> &

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-11 Thread Kevin Burton
Actually I had to specifically compile to x86 before it would work even though 
the target machine was x64. If I specifically compiled to x64 I received a 
warning on the build machine what I am compiling to something different than 
the current machine but when it came to running on the target machine that was 
actually x64 I ran into another error but it didn't work. The takeaway is that 
no matter what the target machine is you have to set x86 when building the .NET 
CA. Any CPU doesn't work and x64 doesn't seem to work either.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com

-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 10:53 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

FYI: The "DLL" is a .NET assembly. The "CA.dll" is a native C++ assembly that 
is responsible for setting up the .NET environment needed to run the .NET 
"DLL". As you found out, you need the bitness of the "CA.dll" to match the 
target machine.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 6:40 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I am sorry I had inadvertently set the  tag to the DLL *not*
> the CA.dll so with the compile target of the CA specifically set to
> x86 (*not* Any CPU) the CA is called correctly. Thank you.
>
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:49 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I think I hit something like that.  Try building the CA with AnyCPU as
> the platform rather than 32/64
>
> I have got that error when I forgot the public on the class, though
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 12:05 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> Thank you Michael,
>
> I tried
>
> public class CustomActions
> {
> private static int checkCount = 1;
> [CustomAction]
> public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
> {
>
> With the same error in the log file. It seems more related to the
> assembly than the scope of the method. The error indicates that the
> DLL "could not be run". I don't think the process has even gotten to
> the point of looking for the member. Something is wrong with the DLL
> that is produced by the custom action project that is integrated with Visual 
> Studio.
> I think the issue that the .msi is compiled and built (and the CA
> project) in a
> 32 bit environment and the .msi is installing to a 64-bit environment
> may be more of the problem. Although I am not sure how to tackle it if
> this is indeed the problem. So the  element that makes the DLL
> part of the .msi maybe needs to know about the "bited-ness: of the
> source and target. All of this is just supposition as I am a relative 
> beginner with WiX.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:08 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> Hi Kevin
>
> I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call
>
>
> private static bool CheckCredentials
>
>
> Should be something like:
>
>[CustomAction]
> public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
>
> The class it is a member of also needs to be public.
>
> Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.
>
> Michael
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on
> the installation package a

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-11 Thread Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
FYI: The "DLL" is a .NET assembly. The "CA.dll" is a native C++ assembly that 
is responsible for setting up the .NET environment needed to run the .NET 
"DLL". As you found out, you need the bitness of the "CA.dll" to match the 
target machine.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 6:40 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I am sorry I had inadvertently set the  tag to the DLL *not* the 
> CA.dll
> so with the compile target of the CA specifically set to x86 (*not* Any CPU)
> the CA is called correctly. Thank you.
>
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:49 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I think I hit something like that.  Try building the CA with AnyCPU as the
> platform rather than 32/64
>
> I have got that error when I forgot the public on the class, though
>
> Regards
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 12:05 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> Thank you Michael,
>
> I tried
>
> public class CustomActions
> {
> private static int checkCount = 1;
> [CustomAction]
> public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
> {
>
> With the same error in the log file. It seems more related to the assembly
> than the scope of the method. The error indicates that the DLL "could not be
> run". I don't think the process has even gotten to the point of looking for 
> the
> member. Something is wrong with the DLL that is produced by the custom
> action project that is integrated with Visual Studio.
> I think the issue that the .msi is compiled and built (and the CA project) in 
> a
> 32 bit environment and the .msi is installing to a 64-bit environment may be
> more of the problem. Although I am not sure how to tackle it if this is indeed
> the problem. So the  element that makes the DLL part of the .msi
> maybe needs to know about the "bited-ness: of the source and target. All of
> this is just supposition as I am a relative beginner with WiX.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:08 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> Hi Kevin
>
> I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call
>
>
> private static bool CheckCredentials
>
>
> Should be something like:
>
>[CustomAction]
> public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
>
> The class it is a member of also needs to be public.
>
> Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.
>
> Michael
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the
> installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the
> installation so when the installation locks the account (because of bad
> credentials) there is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy
> deployment because of similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout
> with a CA that would sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:24 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to
> distribute where the s

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-11 Thread Kevin Burton
I am sorry I had inadvertently set the  tag to the DLL *not* the CA.dll 
so with the compile target of the CA specifically set to x86 (*not* Any CPU) 
the CA is called correctly. Thank you.


Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:49 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I think I hit something like that.  Try building the CA with AnyCPU as the 
platform rather than 32/64

I have got that error when I forgot the public on the class, though

Regards

Michael



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 12:05 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Thank you Michael,

I tried

public class CustomActions
{
private static int checkCount = 1;
[CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
{

With the same error in the log file. It seems more related to the assembly than 
the scope of the method. The error indicates that the DLL "could not be run". I 
don't think the process has even gotten to the point of looking for the member. 
Something is wrong with the DLL that is produced by the custom action project 
that is integrated with Visual Studio.
I think the issue that the .msi is compiled and built (and the CA project) in a 
32 bit environment and the .msi is installing to a 64-bit environment may be 
more of the problem. Although I am not sure how to tackle it if this is indeed 
the problem. So the  element that makes the DLL part of the .msi maybe 
needs to know about the "bited-ness: of the source and target. All of this is 
just supposition as I am a relative beginner with WiX.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:08 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Hi Kevin

I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call


private static bool CheckCredentials


Should be something like:

   [CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)

The class it is a member of also needs to be public.

Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.

Michael


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the 
installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the installation 
so when the installation locks the account (because of bad credentials) there 
is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy deployment because of 
similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout with a CA that would 
sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:24 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to 
distribute where the service used a service account.  For reasons never 
determined ( aka damn service account )  something out there would periodically 
lock the account and group policy would have it unlocked 10 minutes later.

One of the worst dependencies I ever had to take.  It wasn't fun.

---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know 
a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the 
credentials we

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-11 Thread Kevin Burton
ch.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:49 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I think I hit something like that.  Try building the CA with AnyCPU as the 
platform rather than 32/64

I have got that error when I forgot the public on the class, though

Regards

Michael



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 12:05 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Thank you Michael,

I tried

public class CustomActions
{
private static int checkCount = 1;
[CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
{

With the same error in the log file. It seems more related to the assembly than 
the scope of the method. The error indicates that the DLL "could not be run". I 
don't think the process has even gotten to the point of looking for the member. 
Something is wrong with the DLL that is produced by the custom action project 
that is integrated with Visual Studio.
I think the issue that the .msi is compiled and built (and the CA project) in a 
32 bit environment and the .msi is installing to a 64-bit environment may be 
more of the problem. Although I am not sure how to tackle it if this is indeed 
the problem. So the  element that makes the DLL part of the .msi maybe 
needs to know about the "bited-ness: of the source and target. All of this is 
just supposition as I am a relative beginner with WiX.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:08 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Hi Kevin

I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call


private static bool CheckCredentials


Should be something like:

   [CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)

The class it is a member of also needs to be public.

Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.

Michael


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the 
installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the installation 
so when the installation locks the account (because of bad credentials) there 
is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy deployment because of 
similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout with a CA that would 
sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:24 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to 
distribute where the service used a service account.  For reasons never 
determined ( aka damn service account )  something out there would periodically 
lock the account and group policy would have it unlocked 10 minutes later.

One of the worst dependencies I ever had to take.  It wasn't fun.

---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know 
a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the 
credentials were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting 
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other 
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine 
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproductio

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-11 Thread Kevin Burton
It is currently set to 'Any CPU'.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com

-Original Message-
From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:49 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I think I hit something like that.  Try building the CA with AnyCPU as the 
platform rather than 32/64

I have got that error when I forgot the public on the class, though

Regards

Michael



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 12:05 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Thank you Michael,

I tried

public class CustomActions
{
private static int checkCount = 1;
[CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
{

With the same error in the log file. It seems more related to the assembly than 
the scope of the method. The error indicates that the DLL "could not be run". I 
don't think the process has even gotten to the point of looking for the member. 
Something is wrong with the DLL that is produced by the custom action project 
that is integrated with Visual Studio.
I think the issue that the .msi is compiled and built (and the CA project) in a 
32 bit environment and the .msi is installing to a 64-bit environment may be 
more of the problem. Although I am not sure how to tackle it if this is indeed 
the problem. So the  element that makes the DLL part of the .msi maybe 
needs to know about the "bited-ness: of the source and target. All of this is 
just supposition as I am a relative beginner with WiX.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:08 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Hi Kevin

I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call


private static bool CheckCredentials


Should be something like:

   [CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)

The class it is a member of also needs to be public.

Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.

Michael


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the 
installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the installation 
so when the installation locks the account (because of bad credentials) there 
is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy deployment because of 
similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout with a CA that would 
sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:24 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to 
distribute where the service used a service account.  For reasons never 
determined ( aka damn service account )  something out there would periodically 
lock the account and group policy would have it unlocked 10 minutes later.

One of the worst dependencies I ever had to take.  It wasn't fun.

---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know 
a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the 
credentials were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA 

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Michael Osmond
I think I hit something like that.  Try building the CA with AnyCPU as the 
platform rather than 32/64

I have got that error when I forgot the public on the class, though

Regards

Michael



-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 12:05 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Thank you Michael,

I tried

public class CustomActions
{
private static int checkCount = 1;
[CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
{

With the same error in the log file. It seems more related to the assembly than 
the scope of the method. The error indicates that the DLL "could not be run". I 
don't think the process has even gotten to the point of looking for the member. 
Something is wrong with the DLL that is produced by the custom action project 
that is integrated with Visual Studio.
I think the issue that the .msi is compiled and built (and the CA project) in a 
32 bit environment and the .msi is installing to a 64-bit environment may be 
more of the problem. Although I am not sure how to tackle it if this is indeed 
the problem. So the  element that makes the DLL part of the .msi maybe 
needs to know about the "bited-ness: of the source and target. All of this is 
just supposition as I am a relative beginner with WiX.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:08 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Hi Kevin

I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call


private static bool CheckCredentials


Should be something like:

   [CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)

The class it is a member of also needs to be public.

Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.

Michael


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the 
installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the installation 
so when the installation locks the account (because of bad credentials) there 
is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy deployment because of 
similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout with a CA that would 
sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:24 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to 
distribute where the service used a service account.  For reasons never 
determined ( aka damn service account )  something out there would periodically 
lock the account and group policy would have it unlocked 10 minutes later.

One of the worst dependencies I ever had to take.  It wasn't fun.

---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know 
a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the 
credentials were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting 
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other 
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine 
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproduction (wix source, CA source, etc) of the CA 
running problem I can try to reproduce it on my end.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
Thank you Michael,

I tried

public class CustomActions
{
private static int checkCount = 1;
[CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
{

With the same error in the log file. It seems more related to the assembly than 
the scope of the method. The error indicates that the DLL "could not be run". I 
don't think the process has even gotten to the point of looking for the member. 
Something is wrong with the DLL that is produced by the custom action project 
that is integrated with Visual Studio.
I think the issue that the .msi is compiled and built (and the CA project) in a 
32 bit environment and the .msi is installing to a 64-bit environment may be 
more of the problem. Although I am not sure how to tackle it if this is indeed 
the problem. So the  element that makes the DLL part of the .msi maybe 
needs to know about the "bited-ness: of the source and target. All of this is 
just supposition as I am a relative beginner with WiX.


-Original Message-
From: Michael Osmond [mailto:mosm...@baytech.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 5:08 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Hi Kevin

I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call


private static bool CheckCredentials


Should be something like:

   [CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)

The class it is a member of also needs to be public.

Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.

Michael


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the 
installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the installation 
so when the installation locks the account (because of bad credentials) there 
is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy deployment because of 
similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout with a CA that would 
sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:24 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to 
distribute where the service used a service account.  For reasons never 
determined ( aka damn service account )  something out there would periodically 
lock the account and group policy would have it unlocked 10 minutes later.

One of the worst dependencies I ever had to take.  It wasn't fun.

---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know 
a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the 
credentials were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting 
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other 
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine 
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproduction (wix source, CA source, etc) of the CA 
running problem I can try to reproduce it on my end.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:51 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I can check the

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Michael Osmond
Hi Kevin

I think your error that it can't find the CA is in the call


private static bool CheckCredentials


Should be something like:

   [CustomAction]
public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)

The class it is a member of also needs to be public.

Note you need to get the credentials out of properties.

Michael


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 March 2011 8:41 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the 
installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the installation 
so when the installation locks the account (because of bad credentials) there 
is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy deployment because of 
similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout with a CA that would 
sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:24 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to 
distribute where the service used a service account.  For reasons never 
determined ( aka damn service account )  something out there would periodically 
lock the account and group policy would have it unlocked 10 minutes later.

One of the worst dependencies I ever had to take.  It wasn't fun.

---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know 
a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out and
the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the credentials
were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproduction (wix source, CA source, etc) of the CA
running problem I can try to reproduce it on my end.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:51 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I can check the credentials with invalid credentials and then I am able to
> check the credentials using valid credentials. No lock out. Here is the code:
>
>private static bool CheckCredentials(string userName, string password)
>{
>bool valid = false;
>using(PrincipalContext context = new
> PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
>{
>valid = context.ValidateCredentials(userName, password);
>}
>return valid;
>}
>static void Main(string[] args)
>{
>Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "invalid")));
>Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "valid")));
>}
>
>  And the output is:
>
> Credentials are False
> Credentials are True
>
> Now my biggest problem is that the CA is not getting called.
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.w

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
I hear you. Where I work there is already considerable skepticism on the 
installation package and anything that goes wrong is blamed on the installation 
so when the installation locks the account (because of bad credentials) there 
is a call to not use any deployment and go to copy deployment because of 
similar "mysteries". If I can avoid the account lockout with a CA that would 
sweep the problem under the rug at least for now.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:24 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to 
distribute where the service used a service account.  For reasons never 
determined ( aka damn service account )  something out there would periodically 
lock the account and group policy would have it unlocked 10 minutes later.

One of the worst dependencies I ever had to take.  It wasn't fun.

---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know 
a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out and
the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the credentials
were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproduction (wix source, CA source, etc) of the CA
running problem I can try to reproduce it on my end.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:51 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I can check the credentials with invalid credentials and then I am able to
> check the credentials using valid credentials. No lock out. Here is the code:
>
>private static bool CheckCredentials(string userName, string password)
>{
>bool valid = false;
>using(PrincipalContext context = new
> PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
>{
>valid = context.ValidateCredentials(userName, password);
>}
>return valid;
>}
>static void Main(string[] args)
>{
>Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "invalid")));
>Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "valid")));
>}
>
>  And the output is:
>
> Credentials are False
> Credentials are True
>
> Now my biggest problem is that the CA is not getting called.
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:10 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> This is nothing to do with exceptions. I'm telling you that the act of
>verifying
> credentials is a flavor of logon, and that a failure to "verify" may be 
> treated
>in
> exactly the same way as when your service tries to log on with invalid
> credentials. In other words you can write a bunch of code that tries to verify
> an account and the result is

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Christopher Painter
When I was at Continental Airlines we had an application that I had to 
distribute where the service used a service account.  For reasons never 
determined ( aka damn service account )  something out there would periodically 
lock the account and group policy would have it unlocked 10 minutes later.

One of the worst dependencies I ever had to take.  It wasn't fun.
 
---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog
Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves 
attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: "Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)" 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. 

Sent: Thu, March 10, 2011 4:11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and 
the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the credentials 
were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting 
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other 
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine 
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproduction (wix source, CA source, etc) of the CA 
running problem I can try to reproduce it on my end.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:51 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I can check the credentials with invalid credentials and then I am able to
> check the credentials using valid credentials. No lock out. Here is the code:
>
>        private static bool CheckCredentials(string userName, string password)
>        {
>            bool valid = false;
>            using(PrincipalContext context = new
> PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
>            {
>                valid = context.ValidateCredentials(userName, password);
>            }
>            return valid;
>        }
>        static void Main(string[] args)
>        {
>            Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "invalid")));
>            Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "valid")));
>        }
>
>  And the output is:
>
> Credentials are False
> Credentials are True
>
> Now my biggest problem is that the CA is not getting called.
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:10 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> This is nothing to do with exceptions. I'm telling you that the act of 
>verifying
> credentials is a flavor of logon, and that a failure to "verify" may be 
> treated 
>in
> exactly the same way as when your service tries to log on with invalid
> credentials. In other words you can write a bunch of code that tries to verify
> an account and the result is that the account gets locked out, or you can just
> go back to what you were doing before and have the service logon failure
> cause account lockout. I'm saying that this is what you may end up with, so 
all
> your code gives you very little advantage, if any at all.
>
> You should run your custom action in a program and use an invalid password.
> Try it a dozen times and see if the account gets locked out.
>
> Phil Wilson
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:27 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I am not sure what you mean by "square one"? 

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
The CA is compile on a 32 bit machine and installed on a 64 bit machine. Is 
that a problem? Will not WoW take care of that? It does for the other 
assemblies.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:11 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the 
credentials were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting 
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other 
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine 
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproduction (wix source, CA source, etc) of the CA 
running problem I can try to reproduce it on my end.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:51 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I can check the credentials with invalid credentials and then I am
> able to check the credentials using valid credentials. No lock out. Here is 
> the code:
>
> private static bool CheckCredentials(string userName, string password)
> {
> bool valid = false;
> using(PrincipalContext context = new
> PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
> {
> valid = context.ValidateCredentials(userName, password);
> }
> return valid;
> }
> static void Main(string[] args)
> {
> Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "invalid")));
> Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "valid")));
> }
>
>  And the output is:
>
> Credentials are False
> Credentials are True
>
> Now my biggest problem is that the CA is not getting called.
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:10 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> This is nothing to do with exceptions. I'm telling you that the act of
> verifying credentials is a flavor of logon, and that a failure to
> "verify" may be treated in exactly the same way as when your service
> tries to log on with invalid credentials. In other words you can write
> a bunch of code that tries to verify an account and the result is that
> the account gets locked out, or you can just go back to what you were
> doing before and have the service logon failure cause account lockout.
> I'm saying that this is what you may end up with, so all your code gives you 
> very little advantage, if any at all.
>
> You should run your custom action in a program and use an invalid password.
> Try it a dozen times and see if the account gets locked out.
>
> Phil Wilson
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:27 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I am not sure what you mean by "square one"? Are you saying that the
> checking of credentials that are invalid will throw an exception that
> is not caught?
>
> First I have to solve the problem that I don't think the CA is being
> called as evidenced by the snipp

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
The same is true here running the validation with invalid credentials 3 or more 
times locks the account out. So the user will not get that many tries I will 
fail the installation after the first invalid entry. But this is to avoid the 
situation where installing and starting the service just once causes the 
account to be locked out if invalid credentials are entered.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 4:11 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the 
credentials were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting 
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other 
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine 
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproduction (wix source, CA source, etc) of the CA 
running problem I can try to reproduce it on my end.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:51 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I can check the credentials with invalid credentials and then I am
> able to check the credentials using valid credentials. No lock out. Here is 
> the code:
>
> private static bool CheckCredentials(string userName, string password)
> {
> bool valid = false;
> using(PrincipalContext context = new
> PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
> {
> valid = context.ValidateCredentials(userName, password);
> }
> return valid;
> }
> static void Main(string[] args)
> {
> Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "invalid")));
> Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "valid")));
> }
>
>  And the output is:
>
> Credentials are False
> Credentials are True
>
> Now my biggest problem is that the CA is not getting called.
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:10 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> This is nothing to do with exceptions. I'm telling you that the act of
> verifying credentials is a flavor of logon, and that a failure to
> "verify" may be treated in exactly the same way as when your service
> tries to log on with invalid credentials. In other words you can write
> a bunch of code that tries to verify an account and the result is that
> the account gets locked out, or you can just go back to what you were
> doing before and have the service logon failure cause account lockout.
> I'm saying that this is what you may end up with, so all your code gives you 
> very little advantage, if any at all.
>
> You should run your custom action in a program and use an invalid password.
> Try it a dozen times and see if the account gets locked out.
>
> Phil Wilson
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:27 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I am not sure what you mean by "square one"? Are you saying that the
> c

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
Phil and I both mentioned the potential problem. Run your code for invalid 
credentials more than once. Try it about 4-12 times (as suggested by Phil). The 
flow for the custom action is the following:

User enters credentials in dialog.
Dialog asks custom action to validate.
Dialog checks validation result property letting the user know if the password 
was valid or invalid.

Suppose that a user incorrect enters invalid credentials enough times... At my 
work you only get 3 tries! On the third validation the account is locked out 
and the fourth and future attempts all fail regardless of whether the 
credentials were valid or not.

Running it once is not enough to verify that this is not the case.

Now, to address the CA running to begin with... Check that the CA is getting 
compiled with the correct bitness as required by the target platform. In other 
words, are you compiling a 64-bit CA and trying to call it on a 32-bit machine 
or vice versa?

If you can post a minimal reproduction (wix source, CA source, etc) of the CA 
running problem I can try to reproduce it on my end.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:51 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I can check the credentials with invalid credentials and then I am able to
> check the credentials using valid credentials. No lock out. Here is the code:
>
> private static bool CheckCredentials(string userName, string password)
> {
> bool valid = false;
> using(PrincipalContext context = new
> PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
> {
> valid = context.ValidateCredentials(userName, password);
> }
> return valid;
> }
> static void Main(string[] args)
> {
> Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "invalid")));
> Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}",
> CheckCredentials("user", "valid")));
> }
>
>  And the output is:
>
> Credentials are False
> Credentials are True
>
> Now my biggest problem is that the CA is not getting called.
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:10 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> This is nothing to do with exceptions. I'm telling you that the act of 
> verifying
> credentials is a flavor of logon, and that a failure to "verify" may be 
> treated in
> exactly the same way as when your service tries to log on with invalid
> credentials. In other words you can write a bunch of code that tries to verify
> an account and the result is that the account gets locked out, or you can just
> go back to what you were doing before and have the service logon failure
> cause account lockout. I'm saying that this is what you may end up with, so 
> all
> your code gives you very little advantage, if any at all.
>
> You should run your custom action in a program and use an invalid password.
> Try it a dozen times and see if the account gets locked out.
>
> Phil Wilson
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:27 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> I am not sure what you mean by "square one"? Are you saying that the
> checking of credentials that are invalid will throw an exception that is not
> caught?
>
> First I have to solve the problem that I don't think the CA is being called as
> evidenced by the snippet of log I posted earlier. Unless the log entry will be
> suppressed by an exception. But the entry on the log indicates that the DLL
> could not be run so I don't think I am even getting to that point. Also I get 
> the
> same error (DLL could not be run) whether I supply the correct credentials or
> incorrect ones.
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
>
> -Original M

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
I can check the credentials with invalid credentials and then I am able to 
check the credentials using valid credentials. No lock out. Here is the code:

private static bool CheckCredentials(string userName, string password)
{
bool valid = false;
using(PrincipalContext context = new 
PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
{
valid = context.ValidateCredentials(userName, password);
}
return valid;
}
static void Main(string[] args)
{
Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}", 
CheckCredentials("user", "invalid")));
Debug.WriteLine(string.Format("Credentials are {0}", 
CheckCredentials("user", "valid")));
}

 And the output is:

Credentials are False
Credentials are True

Now my biggest problem is that the CA is not getting called.
Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:10 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

This is nothing to do with exceptions. I'm telling you that the act of 
verifying credentials is a flavor of logon, and that a failure to "verify" may 
be treated in exactly the same way as when your service tries to log on with 
invalid credentials. In other words you can write a bunch of code that tries to 
verify an account and the result is that the account gets locked out, or you 
can just go back to what you were doing before and have the service logon 
failure cause account lockout. I'm saying that this is what you may end up 
with, so all your code gives you very little advantage, if any at all.

You should run your custom action in a program and use an invalid password. Try 
it a dozen times and see if the account gets locked out.

Phil Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:27 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I am not sure what you mean by "square one"? Are you saying that the checking 
of credentials that are invalid will throw an exception that is not caught?

First I have to solve the problem that I don't think the CA is being called as 
evidenced by the snippet of log I posted earlier. Unless the log entry will be 
suppressed by an exception. But the entry on the log indicates that the DLL 
could not be run so I don't think I am even getting to that point. Also I get 
the same error (DLL could not be run) whether I supply the correct credentials 
or incorrect ones.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:55 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

 and Kevin, are you sure that attempting to validate will not be 
treated as a logon failure and put you back to square one? User account 
validation schemes are often nothing more than an attempt to log on with the 
supplied credentials. That might be what .ValidateCredentials does - I 
don't know enough about AD and AdsOpenObject() to know if that's what happens. 
Reflector seems to indicate that's the underlying Win32 call.

Phil Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:49 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

This is where you use the property that the action set.  You do not allow the 
user off of the dialog until they enter credentials that work and the property 
is set to the value you expect.  This way it is up to the installer to exit the 
install if they do not have the needed information, but you give them all the 
chances they need to get it right.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:38 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

But I want the install to fail. If it continues with the wrong credentials it 
will try to start services with the wrong credentials.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:32 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Sub

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Wilson, Phil
This is nothing to do with exceptions. I'm telling you that the act of 
verifying credentials is a flavor of logon, and that a failure to "verify" may 
be treated in exactly the same way as when your service tries to log on with 
invalid credentials. In other words you can write a bunch of code that tries to 
verify an account and the result is that the account gets locked out, or you 
can just go back to what you were doing before and have the service logon 
failure cause account lockout. I'm saying that this is what you may end up 
with, so all your code gives you very little advantage, if any at all.

You should run your custom action in a program and use an invalid password. Try 
it a dozen times and see if the account gets locked out.

Phil Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:27 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

I am not sure what you mean by "square one"? Are you saying that the checking 
of credentials that are invalid will throw an exception that is not caught?

First I have to solve the problem that I don't think the CA is being called as 
evidenced by the snippet of log I posted earlier. Unless the log entry will be 
suppressed by an exception. But the entry on the log indicates that the DLL 
could not be run so I don't think I am even getting to that point. Also I get 
the same error (DLL could not be run) whether I supply the correct credentials 
or incorrect ones.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:55 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

 and Kevin, are you sure that attempting to validate will not be 
treated as a logon failure and put you back to square one? User account 
validation schemes are often nothing more than an attempt to log on with the 
supplied credentials. That might be what .ValidateCredentials does - I 
don't know enough about AD and AdsOpenObject() to know if that's what happens. 
Reflector seems to indicate that's the underlying Win32 call.

Phil Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:49 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

This is where you use the property that the action set.  You do not allow the 
user off of the dialog until they enter credentials that work and the property 
is set to the value you expect.  This way it is up to the installer to exit the 
install if they do not have the needed information, but you give them all the 
chances they need to get it right.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:38 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

But I want the install to fail. If it continues with the wrong credentials it 
will try to start services with the wrong credentials.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:32 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

In cases where you checking things like credentials you want the actions to 
return success so that the install does not fail.  As it was said, you set a 
property if the call succeeded and check if the property is set.

You use the other return values in those cases where you want the install to 
fail and not continue such as when updating configuration files or updating 
anything that the application requires to function.

The basic rule of thumb is when in the UI sequence always have actions return 
success and set properties use in conditional statements.  When the action is 
called in the Execute sequence and it is critical to the success of the product 
always have the action return success or failure so that the install can fail 
and rollback when needed.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:21 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

So CA's always return Success. What are the other return values used for? Thank 
you. For the tip.

The problem that I am having now is that it doesn't appear that the CA is 
getting called. I look in the log and see the message indicated earlie

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
I am not sure what you mean by "square one"? Are you saying that the checking 
of credentials that are invalid will throw an exception that is not caught?

First I have to solve the problem that I don't think the CA is being called as 
evidenced by the snippet of log I posted earlier. Unless the log entry will be 
suppressed by an exception. But the entry on the log indicates that the DLL 
could not be run so I don't think I am even getting to that point. Also I get 
the same error (DLL could not be run) whether I supply the correct credentials 
or incorrect ones.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Wilson, Phil [mailto:phil.wil...@invensys.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:55 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

 and Kevin, are you sure that attempting to validate will not be 
treated as a logon failure and put you back to square one? User account 
validation schemes are often nothing more than an attempt to log on with the 
supplied credentials. That might be what .ValidateCredentials does - I 
don't know enough about AD and AdsOpenObject() to know if that's what happens. 
Reflector seems to indicate that's the underlying Win32 call.

Phil Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:49 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

This is where you use the property that the action set.  You do not allow the 
user off of the dialog until they enter credentials that work and the property 
is set to the value you expect.  This way it is up to the installer to exit the 
install if they do not have the needed information, but you give them all the 
chances they need to get it right.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:38 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

But I want the install to fail. If it continues with the wrong credentials it 
will try to start services with the wrong credentials.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:32 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

In cases where you checking things like credentials you want the actions to 
return success so that the install does not fail.  As it was said, you set a 
property if the call succeeded and check if the property is set.

You use the other return values in those cases where you want the install to 
fail and not continue such as when updating configuration files or updating 
anything that the application requires to function.

The basic rule of thumb is when in the UI sequence always have actions return 
success and set properties use in conditional statements.  When the action is 
called in the Execute sequence and it is critical to the success of the product 
always have the action return success or failure so that the install can fail 
and rollback when needed.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:21 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

So CA's always return Success. What are the other return values used for? Thank 
you. For the tip.

The problem that I am having now is that it doesn't appear that the CA is 
getting called. I look in the log and see the message indicated earlier in this 
thread indicating that the DLL "could not be run". Any idea for this?

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com

-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:03 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

You'll want to set a property that can be checked in a condition.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> How does the custom action indicat

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Wilson, Phil
 and Kevin, are you sure that attempting to validate will not be 
treated as a logon failure and put you back to square one? User account 
validation schemes are often nothing more than an attempt to log on with the 
supplied credentials. That might be what .ValidateCredentials does - I 
don't know enough about AD and AdsOpenObject() to know if that's what happens. 
Reflector seems to indicate that's the underlying Win32 call.

Phil Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:49 AM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

This is where you use the property that the action set.  You do not allow the 
user off of the dialog until they enter credentials that work and the property 
is set to the value you expect.  This way it is up to the installer to exit the 
install if they do not have the needed information, but you give them all the 
chances they need to get it right.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:38 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

But I want the install to fail. If it continues with the wrong credentials it 
will try to start services with the wrong credentials.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:32 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

In cases where you checking things like credentials you want the actions to 
return success so that the install does not fail.  As it was said, you set a 
property if the call succeeded and check if the property is set.

You use the other return values in those cases where you want the install to 
fail and not continue such as when updating configuration files or updating 
anything that the application requires to function.

The basic rule of thumb is when in the UI sequence always have actions return 
success and set properties use in conditional statements.  When the action is 
called in the Execute sequence and it is critical to the success of the product 
always have the action return success or failure so that the install can fail 
and rollback when needed.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:21 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

So CA's always return Success. What are the other return values used for? Thank 
you. For the tip.

The problem that I am having now is that it doesn't appear that the CA is 
getting called. I look in the log and see the message indicated earlier in this 
thread indicating that the DLL "could not be run". Any idea for this?

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com

-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:03 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

You'll want to set a property that can be checked in a condition.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> How does the custom action indicate that the credentials are incorrect?
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Dahlbacka [mailto:simon.dahlba...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:21 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you
> do so you will get this error.
>
> "been there, done that... "
> On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> > I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
> >
> > I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I
> > don't
> have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Skildum, Mathew
This is where you use the property that the action set.  You do not allow the 
user off of the dialog until they enter credentials that work and the property 
is set to the value you expect.  This way it is up to the installer to exit the 
install if they do not have the needed information, but you give them all the 
chances they need to get it right.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:38 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

But I want the install to fail. If it continues with the wrong credentials it 
will try to start services with the wrong credentials.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:32 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

In cases where you checking things like credentials you want the actions to 
return success so that the install does not fail.  As it was said, you set a 
property if the call succeeded and check if the property is set.

You use the other return values in those cases where you want the install to 
fail and not continue such as when updating configuration files or updating 
anything that the application requires to function.

The basic rule of thumb is when in the UI sequence always have actions return 
success and set properties use in conditional statements.  When the action is 
called in the Execute sequence and it is critical to the success of the product 
always have the action return success or failure so that the install can fail 
and rollback when needed.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:21 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

So CA's always return Success. What are the other return values used for? Thank 
you. For the tip.

The problem that I am having now is that it doesn't appear that the CA is 
getting called. I look in the log and see the message indicated earlier in this 
thread indicating that the DLL "could not be run". Any idea for this?

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com

-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:03 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

You'll want to set a property that can be checked in a condition.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> How does the custom action indicate that the credentials are incorrect?
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Dahlbacka [mailto:simon.dahlba...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:21 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you
> do so you will get this error.
>
> "been there, done that... "
> On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> > I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
> >
> > I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I
> > don't
> have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I have
> >
> >  > Return="check"
> > Execute="immediate"
> > BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> > DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> >
> > And the schedule
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > But in the verbose log I get:
> >
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3:
> CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> > Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723.
> There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required
> for this ins

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
But I want the install to fail. If it continues with the wrong credentials it 
will try to start services with the wrong credentials.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com


-Original Message-
From: Skildum, Mathew [mailto:mathew.skil...@aspect.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:32 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

In cases where you checking things like credentials you want the actions to 
return success so that the install does not fail.  As it was said, you set a 
property if the call succeeded and check if the property is set.

You use the other return values in those cases where you want the install to 
fail and not continue such as when updating configuration files or updating 
anything that the application requires to function.

The basic rule of thumb is when in the UI sequence always have actions return 
success and set properties use in conditional statements.  When the action is 
called in the Execute sequence and it is critical to the success of the product 
always have the action return success or failure so that the install can fail 
and rollback when needed.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:21 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

So CA's always return Success. What are the other return values used for? Thank 
you. For the tip.

The problem that I am having now is that it doesn't appear that the CA is 
getting called. I look in the log and see the message indicated earlier in this 
thread indicating that the DLL "could not be run". Any idea for this?

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com

-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:03 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

You'll want to set a property that can be checked in a condition.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> How does the custom action indicate that the credentials are incorrect?
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Dahlbacka [mailto:simon.dahlba...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:21 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you
> do so you will get this error.
>
> "been there, done that... "
> On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> > I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
> >
> > I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I
> > don't
> have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I have
> >
> >  > Return="check"
> > Execute="immediate"
> > BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> > DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> >
> > And the schedule
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > But in the verbose log I get:
> >
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3:
> CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> > Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723.
> There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required
> for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support
> personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
> CheckCredentials,
> library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> >
> > Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package.
> > A DLL
> required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your
> support personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
> CheckCredentials, library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> >
> > The error says that the DLL cannot be run. Why? I believe I have

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Skildum, Mathew
In cases where you checking things like credentials you want the actions to 
return success so that the install does not fail.  As it was said, you set a 
property if the call succeeded and check if the property is set.

You use the other return values in those cases where you want the install to 
fail and not continue such as when updating configuration files or updating 
anything that the application requires to function.

The basic rule of thumb is when in the UI sequence always have actions return 
success and set properties use in conditional statements.  When the action is 
called in the Execute sequence and it is critical to the success of the product 
always have the action return success or failure so that the install can fail 
and rollback when needed.

Mat Skildum


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:21 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

So CA's always return Success. What are the other return values used for? Thank 
you. For the tip.

The problem that I am having now is that it doesn't appear that the CA is 
getting called. I look in the log and see the message indicated earlier in this 
thread indicating that the DLL "could not be run". Any idea for this?

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com

-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:03 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

You'll want to set a property that can be checked in a condition.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> How does the custom action indicate that the credentials are incorrect?
>
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Dahlbacka [mailto:simon.dahlba...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:21 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you
> do so you will get this error.
>
> "been there, done that... "
> On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> > I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
> >
> > I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I
> > don't
> have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I have
> >
> >  > Return="check"
> > Execute="immediate"
> > BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> > DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> >
> > And the schedule
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > But in the verbose log I get:
> >
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3:
> CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> > Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723.
> There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required
> for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support
> personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
> CheckCredentials,
> library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> >
> > Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package.
> > A DLL
> required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your
> support personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
> CheckCredentials, library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> >
> > The error says that the DLL cannot be run. Why? I believe I have
> > followed
> the instructions for writing a managed CA to the tee (though there
> seems to be some disagreement between the online tutorial
> http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ and this book).
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:26 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> 

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
So CA's always return Success. What are the other return values used for? Thank 
you. For the tip.

The problem that I am having now is that it doesn't appear that the CA is 
getting called. I look in the log and see the message indicated earlier in this 
thread indicating that the DLL "could not be run". Any idea for this?

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com 

-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 12:03 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

You'll want to set a property that can be checked in a condition.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> How does the custom action indicate that the credentials are incorrect?
> 
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Dahlbacka [mailto:simon.dahlba...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:21 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you 
> do so you will get this error.
> 
> "been there, done that... "
> On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> > I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
> >
> > I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I 
> > don't
> have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I have
> >
> >  > Return="check"
> > Execute="immediate"
> > BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> > DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> >
> > And the schedule
> >
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >
> > But in the verbose log I get:
> >
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3:
> CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> > Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723.
> There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required 
> for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support 
> personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry: 
> CheckCredentials,
> library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> >
> > Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. 
> > A DLL
> required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your 
> support personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
> CheckCredentials, library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> >
> > The error says that the DLL cannot be run. Why? I believe I have 
> > followed
> the instructions for writing a managed CA to the tee (though there 
> seems to be some disagreement between the online tutorial 
> http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ and this book).
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:26 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >
> > ICE63 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369008.aspx
> >
> > Edwin G. Castro
> > Software Developer - Staff
> > Electronic Banking Services
> > Fiserv
> > Office: 503-746-0643
> > Fax: 503-617-0291
> > www.fiserv.com
> > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:15 PM
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >>
> >> I think I have solved this problem. The CA was scheduled in the 
> >> InstallExecuteSequence and was marked as 'deferred' so I created 
> >> the following 'Custom Data'.
> >>
> >>  >>

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
You'll want to set a property that can be checked in a condition.

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail

> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:05 AM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> How does the custom action indicate that the credentials are incorrect?
> 
> Kevin Burton
> Senior Software Engineer
> BUYSEASONS
> 262-901-2000 Office
> 262-901-2312 Fax
> kev...@buyseasons.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Simon Dahlbacka [mailto:simon.dahlba...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:21 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you do so 
> you
> will get this error.
> 
> "been there, done that... "
> On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> > I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
> >
> > I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I
> > don't
> have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I have
> >
> >  > Return="check"
> > Execute="immediate"
> > BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> > DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> >
> > And the schedule
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > But in the verbose log I get:
> >
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3:
> CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> > Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
> > MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723.
> There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required for
> this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support personnel or
> package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry: CheckCredentials,
> library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> >
> > Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A
> > DLL
> required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support
> personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
> CheckCredentials, library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> >
> > The error says that the DLL cannot be run. Why? I believe I have
> > followed
> the instructions for writing a managed CA to the tee (though there seems to
> be some disagreement between the online tutorial
> http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ and this book).
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:26 PM
> > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >
> > ICE63 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369008.aspx
> >
> > Edwin G. Castro
> > Software Developer - Staff
> > Electronic Banking Services
> > Fiserv
> > Office: 503-746-0643
> > Fax: 503-617-0291
> > www.fiserv.com
> > P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:15 PM
> >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> >>
> >> I think I have solved this problem. The CA was scheduled in the
> >> InstallExecuteSequence and was marked as 'deferred' so I created the
> >> following 'Custom Data'.
> >>
> >>  >> Value="[SERVICEUSER],[SERVICEPASSWORD]" />  >> Id="CA_CheckCredentials"
> >> Return="check"
> >> Execute="deferred"
> >> BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> >> DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> >>
> >> And scheduled it like (I am trying to follow the instructions on page
> >> 133 of
> >> 'WiX: A Developer's Guide to Windows Installer XML' by Nick Ramirez)
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
>  >> Action="CA_CheckCredentials" After="InstallInitialize" />
> >> 
> >>
> >> Now I get the ICE warn

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
This error occurs when the credentials are correct. I don't get the message 
that the CA is being called (the first line in the code) so I don't think the 
CA is even being called.

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com 


-Original Message-
From: Simon Dahlbacka [mailto:simon.dahlba...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:21 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you do so you 
will get this error.

"been there, done that... "
On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
>
> I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I 
> don't
have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I have
>
>  Return="check"
> Execute="immediate"
> BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
>
> And the schedule
>
> 
>  
> 
>
> But in the verbose log I get:
>
> MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3:
CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
> MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723.
There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required for this 
install to complete could not be run. Contact your support personnel or package 
vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry: CheckCredentials,
library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
>
> Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A 
> DLL
required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support 
personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
CheckCredentials, library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
>
> The error says that the DLL cannot be run. Why? I believe I have 
> followed
the instructions for writing a managed CA to the tee (though there seems to be 
some disagreement between the online tutorial http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ 
and this book).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:26 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> ICE63 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369008.aspx
>
> Edwin G. Castro
> Software Developer - Staff
> Electronic Banking Services
> Fiserv
> Office: 503-746-0643
> Fax: 503-617-0291
> www.fiserv.com
> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:15 PM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>>
>> I think I have solved this problem. The CA was scheduled in the 
>> InstallExecuteSequence and was marked as 'deferred' so I created the 
>> following 'Custom Data'.
>>
>> > Value="[SERVICEUSER],[SERVICEPASSWORD]" /> > Id="CA_CheckCredentials"
>> Return="check"
>> Execute="deferred"
>> BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
>> DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
>>
>> And scheduled it like (I am trying to follow the instructions on page
>> 133 of
>> 'WiX: A Developer's Guide to Windows Installer XML' by Nick Ramirez)
>>
>> 
>>  > Action="CA_CheckCredentials" After="InstallInitialize" /> 
>> 
>>
>> Now I get the ICE warning:
>>
>> warning LGHT1076: ICE63: Some action falls between InstallInitialize 
>> and RemoveExistingProducts.
>>
>> Is this a "bad" warning? I don't completely understand why this 
>> scheduling is bad. I would like to know that the credentials are bad
>> *before* the existing products are removed.
>>
>> If I look at the .msi generated with Orca I see that in the 
>> InstallExecuteSequence table
>>
>> InstallInitialize 1500
>> SetProperty 1501
>> CA_CheckCredentials 1502
>> RemoveExistingProducts 1503
>>
>> This seems like a valid sequence to me but I am obviously missing 
>> something as the warning is there for a purpose.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:30 PM
>> T

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-10 Thread Kevin Burton
How does the custom action indicate that the credentials are incorrect?

Kevin Burton
Senior Software Engineer
BUYSEASONS
262-901-2000 Office
262-901-2312 Fax
kev...@buyseasons.com 

-Original Message-
From: Simon Dahlbacka [mailto:simon.dahlba...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:21 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you do so you 
will get this error.

"been there, done that... "
On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
>
> I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I 
> don't
have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I have
>
>  Return="check"
> Execute="immediate"
> BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
>
> And the schedule
>
> 
>  
> 
>
> But in the verbose log I get:
>
> MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3:
CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
> MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723.
There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required for this 
install to complete could not be run. Contact your support personnel or package 
vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry: CheckCredentials,
library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
>
> Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A 
> DLL
required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support 
personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
CheckCredentials, library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
>
> The error says that the DLL cannot be run. Why? I believe I have 
> followed
the instructions for writing a managed CA to the tee (though there seems to be 
some disagreement between the online tutorial http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ 
and this book).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:26 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> ICE63 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369008.aspx
>
> Edwin G. Castro
> Software Developer - Staff
> Electronic Banking Services
> Fiserv
> Office: 503-746-0643
> Fax: 503-617-0291
> www.fiserv.com
> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:15 PM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>>
>> I think I have solved this problem. The CA was scheduled in the 
>> InstallExecuteSequence and was marked as 'deferred' so I created the 
>> following 'Custom Data'.
>>
>> > Value="[SERVICEUSER],[SERVICEPASSWORD]" /> > Id="CA_CheckCredentials"
>> Return="check"
>> Execute="deferred"
>> BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
>> DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
>>
>> And scheduled it like (I am trying to follow the instructions on page
>> 133 of
>> 'WiX: A Developer's Guide to Windows Installer XML' by Nick Ramirez)
>>
>> 
>>  > Action="CA_CheckCredentials" After="InstallInitialize" /> 
>> 
>>
>> Now I get the ICE warning:
>>
>> warning LGHT1076: ICE63: Some action falls between InstallInitialize 
>> and RemoveExistingProducts.
>>
>> Is this a "bad" warning? I don't completely understand why this 
>> scheduling is bad. I would like to know that the credentials are bad
>> *before* the existing products are removed.
>>
>> If I look at the .msi generated with Orca I see that in the 
>> InstallExecuteSequence table
>>
>> InstallInitialize 1500
>> SetProperty 1501
>> CA_CheckCredentials 1502
>> RemoveExistingProducts 1503
>>
>> This seems like a valid sequence to me but I am obviously missing 
>> something as the warning is there for a purpose.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:30 PM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-09 Thread Simon Dahlbacka
You shouldn't return failure if the credentials are incorrect, if you do so
you will get this error.

"been there, done that... "
On Mar 10, 2011 6:34 AM, "Kevin Burton"  wrote:
> I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating?
>
> I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I don't
have to have another custom action to remember the property. So I have
>
>  Return="check"
> Execute="immediate"
> BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
> DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
>
> And the schedule
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> But in the verbose log I get:
>
> MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3:
CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
> Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
> MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723.
There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required for
this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support personnel or
package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry: CheckCredentials,
library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
>
> Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL
required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support
personnel or package vendor. Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry:
CheckCredentials, library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp
>
> The error says that the DLL cannot be run. Why? I believe I have followed
the instructions for writing a managed CA to the tee (though there seems to
be some disagreement between the online tutorial
http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ and this book).
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:26 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>
> ICE63 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369008.aspx
>
> Edwin G. Castro
> Software Developer - Staff
> Electronic Banking Services
> Fiserv
> Office: 503-746-0643
> Fax: 503-617-0291
> www.fiserv.com
> P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:15 PM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>>
>> I think I have solved this problem. The CA was scheduled in the
>> InstallExecuteSequence and was marked as 'deferred' so I created the
>> following 'Custom Data'.
>>
>> > Value="[SERVICEUSER],[SERVICEPASSWORD]" />
>> > Return="check"
>> Execute="deferred"
>> BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
>> DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
>>
>> And scheduled it like (I am trying to follow the instructions on page
>> 133 of
>> 'WiX: A Developer's Guide to Windows Installer XML' by Nick Ramirez)
>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Now I get the ICE warning:
>>
>> warning LGHT1076: ICE63: Some action falls between InstallInitialize
>> and RemoveExistingProducts.
>>
>> Is this a "bad" warning? I don't completely understand why this
>> scheduling is bad. I would like to know that the credentials are bad
>> *before* the existing products are removed.
>>
>> If I look at the .msi generated with Orca I see that in the
>> InstallExecuteSequence table
>>
>> InstallInitialize 1500
>> SetProperty 1501
>> CA_CheckCredentials 1502
>> RemoveExistingProducts 1503
>>
>> This seems like a valid sequence to me but I am obviously missing
>> something as the warning is there for a purpose.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:30 PM
>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
>>
>> If I had to guess you calling this CA as a ControlEvent off a Dialog /
>> Control in your UI sequence.  Am I correct?  If so, it's a known issue
>> that Msi lacks the ability to process messages in this scenario.   The
>> workaround is to set a dummy property to see a "PROPERTY CHANGED"
>> message in the log file where the value is the data you are trying to
log.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ---
>> Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot
>> tip, kn

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-09 Thread Kevin Burton
I read that. Which of the four rules is this violating? 

I made the warning go away by making the C# CA 'immediate' thus I don't have to 
have another custom action to remember the property. So I have



And the schedule


  


But in the verbose log I get:

MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Note: 1: 1723 2: CA_CheckCredentials 3: 
CheckCredentials 4: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp 
Action start 22:04:26: CA_CheckCredentials.
MSI (s) (B8:9C) [22:04:26:415]: Product: Bsi WebServices -- Error 1723. There 
is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL required for this 
install to complete could not be run. Contact your support personnel or package 
vendor.  Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry: CheckCredentials, library: 
D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp 

Error 1723. There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A DLL 
required for this install to complete could not be run. Contact your support 
personnel or package vendor.  Action CA_CheckCredentials, entry: 
CheckCredentials, library: D:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI410.tmp

The error says that the DLL cannot be run. Why? I believe I have followed the 
instructions for writing a managed CA to the tee (though there seems to be some 
disagreement between the online tutorial http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ and 
this  book).


-Original Message-
From: Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) [mailto:edwin.cas...@fiserv.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:26 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

ICE63 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369008.aspx

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
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> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:15 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> I think I have solved this problem. The CA was scheduled in the 
> InstallExecuteSequence and was marked as 'deferred' so I created the 
> following 'Custom Data'.
> 
>  Value="[SERVICEUSER],[SERVICEPASSWORD]" />
>Return="check"
>   Execute="deferred"
>   BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
>   DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> 
> And scheduled it like (I am trying to follow the instructions on page 
> 133 of
> 'WiX: A Developer's Guide to Windows Installer XML' by Nick Ramirez)
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> Now I get the ICE warning:
> 
> warning LGHT1076: ICE63: Some action falls between InstallInitialize 
> and RemoveExistingProducts.
> 
> Is this a "bad" warning? I don't completely understand why this 
> scheduling is bad. I would like to know that the credentials are bad 
> *before* the existing products are removed.
> 
> If I look at the .msi generated with Orca I see that in the 
> InstallExecuteSequence table
> 
> InstallInitialize 1500
> SetProperty   1501
> CA_CheckCredentials1502
> RemoveExistingProducts 1503
> 
> This seems like a valid sequence to me but I am obviously missing 
> something as the warning is there for a purpose.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:30 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> If I had to guess you calling this CA as a ControlEvent off a Dialog / 
> Control in your UI sequence.  Am I correct?  If so, it's a known issue 
> that Msi lacks the ability to process messages in this scenario.   The 
> workaround is to set a dummy property to see a "PROPERTY CHANGED" 
> message in the log file where the value is the data you are trying to log.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ---
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> tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves 
> attention? E-Mail Me
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Kevin Burton 
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> 
> Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 3:24:17 PM
> Subject: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> 
> I have a very simple C# Custom Action that is supposed to verify credentials:
> 
> using Microsoft.Deployment.WindowsInstaller;
> 
> namespace BuySeasons.BsiServices.Install {
>     public class CustomActions
>  

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-09 Thread Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro)
ICE63 - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369008.aspx

Edwin G. Castro
Software Developer - Staff
Electronic Banking Services
Fiserv
Office: 503-746-0643
Fax: 503-617-0291
www.fiserv.com
Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Burton [mailto:kev...@buyseasons.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:15 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> I think I have solved this problem. The CA was scheduled in the
> InstallExecuteSequence and was marked as 'deferred' so I created the
> following 'Custom Data'.
> 
>  Value="[SERVICEUSER],[SERVICEPASSWORD]" />
>Return="check"
>   Execute="deferred"
>   BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
>   DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> 
> And scheduled it like (I am trying to follow the instructions on page 133 of
> 'WiX: A Developer's Guide to Windows Installer XML' by Nick Ramirez)
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> Now I get the ICE warning:
> 
> warning LGHT1076: ICE63: Some action falls between InstallInitialize and
> RemoveExistingProducts.
> 
> Is this a "bad" warning? I don't completely understand why this scheduling is
> bad. I would like to know that the credentials are bad *before* the existing
> products are removed.
> 
> If I look at the .msi generated with Orca I see that in the
> InstallExecuteSequence table
> 
> InstallInitialize 1500
> SetProperty   1501
> CA_CheckCredentials1502
> RemoveExistingProducts 1503
> 
> This seems like a valid sequence to me but I am obviously missing something
> as the warning is there for a purpose.
> 
> -----Original Message-
> From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:30 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> If I had to guess you calling this CA as a ControlEvent off a Dialog / 
> Control in
> your UI sequence.  Am I correct?  If so, it's a known issue that Msi lacks the
> ability to process messages in this scenario.   The workaround is to set a
> dummy property to see a "PROPERTY CHANGED" message in the log file
> where the value is the data you are trying to log.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ---
> Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip,
> know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail
> Me
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Kevin Burton 
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
> 
> Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 3:24:17 PM
> Subject: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions
> 
> 
> I have a very simple C# Custom Action that is supposed to verify credentials:
> 
> using Microsoft.Deployment.WindowsInstaller;
> 
> namespace BuySeasons.BsiServices.Install {
>     public class CustomActions
>     {
>         [CustomAction]
>         public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
>         {
>             session.Log(string.Format("Begin CheckCredentials - {0}/{1}",
> session["SERVICEUSER"], session["SERVICEPASSWORD"]));
>             bool valid = false;
>             using (PrincipalContext context = new
> PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
>             {
>                 valid = context.ValidateCredentials(session["SERVICEUSER"],
> session["SERVICEPASSWORD"]);
>             }
>             if(valid)
>                 return ActionResult.Success;
>             else
>                 return ActionResult.Failure;
>         }
>     }
> }
> It is included in the WiX Product as
> 
>      
> SourceFile="C:\Projects\\bin\$(var.Configuration)\BrainCustomActions.C
> A.dll"
> />
> 
>                        Return="check"
>                   Execute="deferred"
>                   BinaryKey="CustomActionsDLL"
>                   DllEntry="CheckCredentials"/>
> 
> And scheduled as:
> 
>     
>       
>     
> 
> This all compiles to a .msi without error. I can see CA_CheckCredentials in
> Orca just where I want it. But it doesn't seem to be called. I look at the
> verbose log and the closest reference I see is:
> 
> Action start 14:56:05: InstallInitialize.
> MSI (s) (B0:4C) [14:56:06:052]: Doing action: CA_Check

Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-09 Thread Kevin Burton
I think I have solved this problem. The CA was scheduled in the 
InstallExecuteSequence and was marked as 'deferred' so I created the following 
'Custom Data'.




And scheduled it like (I am trying to follow the instructions on page 133 of 
'WiX: A Developer's Guide to Windows Installer XML' by Nick Ramirez)


  
  


Now I get the ICE warning:

warning LGHT1076: ICE63: Some action falls between InstallInitialize and 
RemoveExistingProducts.

Is this a "bad" warning? I don't completely understand why this scheduling is 
bad. I would like to know that the credentials are bad *before* the existing 
products are removed.

If I look at the .msi generated with Orca I see that in the 
InstallExecuteSequence table

InstallInitialize 1500
SetProperty   1501
CA_CheckCredentials1502
RemoveExistingProducts 1503

This seems like a valid sequence to me but I am obviously missing something as 
the warning is there for a purpose.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Painter [mailto:chr...@deploymentengineering.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 3:30 PM
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

If I had to guess you calling this CA as a ControlEvent off a Dialog / Control 
in your UI sequence.  Am I correct?  If so, it's a known issue that Msi lacks 
the ability to process messages in this scenario.   The workaround is to set a 
dummy property to see a "PROPERTY CHANGED" message in the log file where 
the value is the data you are trying to log.

Chris
 
---
Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a hot tip, know 
a secret or read a really good thread that deserves attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: Kevin Burton 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. 

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 3:24:17 PM
Subject: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions


I have a very simple C# Custom Action that is supposed to verify credentials:

using Microsoft.Deployment.WindowsInstaller;

namespace BuySeasons.BsiServices.Install
{
    public class CustomActions
    {
        [CustomAction]
        public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
        {
            session.Log(string.Format("Begin CheckCredentials - {0}/{1}", 
session["SERVICEUSER"], session["SERVICEPASSWORD"]));
            bool valid = false;
            using (PrincipalContext context = new 
PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
            {
                valid = context.ValidateCredentials(session["SERVICEUSER"], 
session["SERVICEPASSWORD"]);
            }
            if(valid)
                return ActionResult.Success;
            else
                return ActionResult.Failure;
        }
    }
}
It is included in the WiX Product as

    

    

And scheduled as:

    
      
    

This all compiles to a .msi without error. I can see CA_CheckCredentials in 
Orca 
just where I want it. But it doesn't seem to be called. I look at the verbose 
log and the closest reference I see is:

Action start 14:56:05: InstallInitialize.
MSI (s) (B0:4C) [14:56:06:052]: Doing action: CA_CheckCredentials
MSI (s) (B0:4C) [14:56:06:052]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: ActionText

I don't see the string 'Begin CheckCredentials' as in the code above. What do 
you think I have done wrong?

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Re: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions

2011-03-09 Thread Christopher Painter
If I had to guess you calling this CA as a ControlEvent off a Dialog / Control 
in your UI sequence.  Am I correct?  If so, it's a known issue that Msi lacks 
the ability to process messages in this scenario.   The workaround is to set a 
dummy property to see a "PROPERTY CHANGED" message in the log file where 
the value is the data you are trying to log.

Chris
 
---
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Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves 
attention? E-Mail Me



- Original Message 
From: Kevin Burton 
To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. 

Sent: Wed, March 9, 2011 3:24:17 PM
Subject: [WiX-users] C# Custom Action questions


I have a very simple C# Custom Action that is supposed to verify credentials:

using Microsoft.Deployment.WindowsInstaller;

namespace BuySeasons.BsiServices.Install
{
    public class CustomActions
    {
        [CustomAction]
        public static ActionResult CheckCredentials(Session session)
        {
            session.Log(string.Format("Begin CheckCredentials - {0}/{1}", 
session["SERVICEUSER"], session["SERVICEPASSWORD"]));
            bool valid = false;
            using (PrincipalContext context = new 
PrincipalContext(ContextType.Domain, "ASGARD"))
            {
                valid = context.ValidateCredentials(session["SERVICEUSER"], 
session["SERVICEPASSWORD"]);
            }
            if(valid)
                return ActionResult.Success;
            else
                return ActionResult.Failure;
        }
    }
}
It is included in the WiX Product as

    

    

And scheduled as:

    
      
    

This all compiles to a .msi without error. I can see CA_CheckCredentials in 
Orca 
just where I want it. But it doesn't seem to be called. I look at the verbose 
log and the closest reference I see is:

Action start 14:56:05: InstallInitialize.
MSI (s) (B0:4C) [14:56:06:052]: Doing action: CA_CheckCredentials
MSI (s) (B0:4C) [14:56:06:052]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: ActionText

I don't see the string 'Begin CheckCredentials' as in the code above. What do 
you think I have done wrong?

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