Re: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions
Thanks for the advices, Is a bootstrapper able to merge in one single file both the game installer and the .net installer? I wish to ask just because this is the master feature i'm looking for and i actually don't know what a bootstrapper is... Could you please explain how a bootstrapper is diferent form an msi autoinstalling package? From: os...@live.com To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:13:12 -0800 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions The .NET installers can't be reliably installed from inside of another MSI installer (they use MSI packages internally) since Windows Installer doesn't support nested installations very well, so you will need some sort of bootstrapper to install the .NET and the DirectX. Burn isn't quite there yet, but it is getting much closer. Several other alternatives have been mentioned in this list (search the archives for bootstrapper). -Original Message- From: Matteo Nicolotti [mailto:eversor...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:19 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions Hi everybody, i just joined my first mailing list of my life, so please be patient and understand that sometimes i may look rude just because i don't know how to behave in there. In primis, I'm not a programmer in the strict terms, so i'm not really used to use tools similar to wix, but starting from some well done tutorial and example i managed to make my first game installer in a pair of days, mostry thanks to the quite straightforward structure of Wix. I'm using Wix with sharp-develop and a user made dll to check for .net installation version, xna framework, directx and then to install the game files. The main problem here is that the current project is actually able to compress the Xna fw and DirectX redist inside the msi file, while the .net installer is only checked and then linked. I would like to have the .Net installer included in the msi package so that a user can download and install everything in a single step. Since i am not a good programmer after-all, i was thinking of including the .net installer as a game-file, then somehow run it before the game starts, but the xna installer won't install itself, prompting the user to download the .net then retry. So i urge to know how can i add the .net installer executable to the msi file, run it at the start of the installing procedure, wait for it to do its job, then progress with the installation of the game. _ Hotmail: posta elettronica con funzioni avanzate e gratuita, con la protezione Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users _ Hotmail: posta elettronica con funzioni avanzate e gratuita, con la protezione Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions
Yes, a bootstrapper will do that. Have a search for the GenerateBootstrapper task in MS Build as I find that the easiest to use. On 4 Feb 2010, at 10:33, Matteo Nicolotti eversor...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the advices, Is a bootstrapper able to merge in one single file both the game installer and the .net installer? I wish to ask just because this is the master feature i'm looking for and i actually don't know what a bootstrapper is... Could you please explain how a bootstrapper is diferent form an msi autoinstalling package? From: os...@live.com To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 09:13:12 -0800 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions The .NET installers can't be reliably installed from inside of another MSI installer (they use MSI packages internally) since Windows Installer doesn't support nested installations very well, so you will need some sort of bootstrapper to install the .NET and the DirectX. Burn isn't quite there yet, but it is getting much closer. Several other alternatives have been mentioned in this list (search the archives for bootstrapper). -Original Message- From: Matteo Nicolotti [mailto:eversor...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:19 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions Hi everybody, i just joined my first mailing list of my life, so please be patient and understand that sometimes i may look rude just because i don't know how to behave in there. In primis, I'm not a programmer in the strict terms, so i'm not really used to use tools similar to wix, but starting from some well done tutorial and example i managed to make my first game installer in a pair of days, mostry thanks to the quite straightforward structure of Wix. I'm using Wix with sharp-develop and a user made dll to check for .net installation version, xna framework, directx and then to install the game files. The main problem here is that the current project is actually able to compress the Xna fw and DirectX redist inside the msi file, while the .net installer is only checked and then linked. I would like to have the .Net installer included in the msi package so that a user can download and install everything in a single step. Since i am not a good programmer after-all, i was thinking of including the .net installer as a game-file, then somehow run it before the game starts, but the xna installer won't install itself, prompting the user to download the .net then retry. So i urge to know how can i add the .net installer executable to the msi file, run it at the start of the installing procedure, wait for it to do its job, then progress with the installation of the game. _ Hotmail: posta elettronica con funzioni avanzate e gratuita, con la protezione Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 --- --- --- --- -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users --- --- --- - The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users _ Hotmail: posta elettronica con funzioni avanzate e gratuita, con la protezione Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 --- --- --- - The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users
Re: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions
The .NET installers can't be reliably installed from inside of another MSI installer (they use MSI packages internally) since Windows Installer doesn't support nested installations very well, so you will need some sort of bootstrapper to install the .NET and the DirectX. Burn isn't quite there yet, but it is getting much closer. Several other alternatives have been mentioned in this list (search the archives for bootstrapper). -Original Message- From: Matteo Nicolotti [mailto:eversor...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 3:19 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions Hi everybody, i just joined my first mailing list of my life, so please be patient and understand that sometimes i may look rude just because i don't know how to behave in there. In primis, I'm not a programmer in the strict terms, so i'm not really used to use tools similar to wix, but starting from some well done tutorial and example i managed to make my first game installer in a pair of days, mostry thanks to the quite straightforward structure of Wix. I'm using Wix with sharp-develop and a user made dll to check for .net installation version, xna framework, directx and then to install the game files. The main problem here is that the current project is actually able to compress the Xna fw and DirectX redist inside the msi file, while the .net installer is only checked and then linked. I would like to have the .Net installer included in the msi package so that a user can download and install everything in a single step. Since i am not a good programmer after-all, i was thinking of including the .net installer as a game-file, then somehow run it before the game starts, but the xna installer won't install itself, prompting the user to download the .net then retry. So i urge to know how can i add the .net installer executable to the msi file, run it at the start of the installing procedure, wait for it to do its job, then progress with the installation of the game. _ Hotmail: posta elettronica con funzioni avanzate e gratuita, con la protezione Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions
I believe this is what you are suggesting. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368010%28VS.85%29.aspx As the document says, this is a deprecated feature and should not be used. Instead, you need to use a bootstrapper to call the required installers one at a time. -Original Message- From: Matteo Nicolotti [mailto:eversor...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 06:19 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] First user impressions and questions Hi everybody, i just joined my first mailing list of my life, so please be patient and understand that sometimes i may look rude just because i don't know how to behave in there. In primis, I'm not a programmer in the strict terms, so i'm not really used to use tools similar to wix, but starting from some well done tutorial and example i managed to make my first game installer in a pair of days, mostry thanks to the quite straightforward structure of Wix. I'm using Wix with sharp-develop and a user made dll to check for .net installation version, xna framework, directx and then to install the game files. The main problem here is that the current project is actually able to compress the Xna fw and DirectX redist inside the msi file, while the .net installer is only checked and then linked. I would like to have the .Net installer included in the msi package so that a user can download and install everything in a single step. Since i am not a good programmer after-all, i was thinking of including the .net installer as a game-file, then somehow run it before the game starts, but the xna installer won't install itself, prompting the user to download the .net then retry. So i urge to know how can i add the .net installer executable to the msi file, run it at the start of the installing procedure, wait for it to do its job, then progress with the installation of the game. _ Hotmail: posta elettronica con funzioni avanzate e gratuita, con la protezione Microsoft. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the business Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just a phone call away. http://p.sf.net/sfu/theplanet-com ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
