Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
IIRC WiX 2.0 didn¹t do ICE validation so you probably had the warning just didn¹t know you did. Neil Context is a migration of a WiX 2.0.5805.0 solution to WiX 3.8.1128.0. Seemed to be working through the compiler and linker errors one by one just fine until I hit ICE38 regarding shortcuts. There are 2 shortcuts created to the same installed EXE. One shortcut is in the start menu and the other is on the desktop. WiX 2.0 compiled MSIs install, uninstall, and major upgrade with proper cleanup of the shortcuts just fine. Now trying to tackle in WiX 3.8. error LGHT0204 : ICE38: Component component40 installs to user profile. It's Key Path registry key must fall under HKCU. The message states that component40 installs to user profile. Why does it think that? The directory it is within is not user specific and the overall MSI is ALLUSERS=1. The following stackoverflow post looked promising but I'm not understanding it yet. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2058230/wix-create-non-advertised-short cu t-for-all-users-per-machine And then another stackoverflow post http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17245832/wix-program-files-shortcut-for -p er-machine-install shows a shortcut as a child of the File. But doesn't really address the fact that a Directory/ needs to have a RemoveFolder/ and RegistryValue/ which is HKCU. Other posts have noted that if HKCU is used then when another user uninstalls the registry entries are orphaned under the other user and some state that when application is run as another user it triggers a repair. I dunno on this. I also couldn't find what HKMU was in the WiX help file or online other than Hubert Kairuki Memorial University (something tells me that isn't relevant J ). Is it possible to have an ALLUSERS msi and NOT write to user specific registry, file, or any other user specific resource? In WiX 2.0 we did the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theincludebelow.inc ? /Directory /Directory !-- System32 install group -- Directory Id=SystemFolder / /Directory . various other wxs constructs . Include Directory Id='CSWINDOWSDIR' Name='CLEARS_1' LongName='C s Windows' . other file components including file2 . Component Id=component40 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='startMenuCsWindowsExe' Directory='ProgramMenuCSSIDir' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component Component Id=component41 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='desktopCsWindowsExe' Directory='DesktopFolder' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component /Directory /Include In WiX 3.8 we are trying the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theequivalentincludeofthe2.0withshortcutcomponentstrippedout.inc ? /Directory /Directory !-- System32 install group -- Directory Id=SystemFolder / /Directory ?include theincludebelow.inc ? . various other wxs constructs . Include DirectoryRef Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Component Id=component40 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='startMenuCsWindowsExe' Directory='ProgramMenuCSSIDir'
Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
From: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/aa371168.aspx the meaning of the integer in the Root column: The one missing enumeration represents either Machine and User, so HKey-(localMachine|currentUser) or HKMU. Someone else expressed it this way: HKMU stands for either HKLM or HKCU depeding on setup type. (http://www.tech-archive.net/Archive/Visio/microsoft.public.visio.developer/2006-09/msg00048.html) -Blair To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net From: d...@clearskysoftware.com Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 20:30:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts havechanged Thanks for info on HKMU. I'll give it a try and suppress ICE57 on the compile. Is HKMU a WiX thing or did I miss a Windows installer acronym meeting? Dave Williamson -Original Message- From: Hoover, Jacob jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com Sent: 12/4/2013 8:11 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts havechanged HKMU is either HKLM or HKCU depending on if it's a per user or per machine install. Note, I have disabled ICE57, as I am using HKMU registry resources for the shortcuts. Windows Installer complains about per-user data and a keypath that can be per-user or per-machine. There are numerous complaints about ICE57, the biggest from Rob M himself saying they neglected to take the ALLUSERS property into account when creating it. While I could replace HKMU with HKCU and avoid the ICE57, it would then leave behind these registry fragments if user A did the install but user B did the uninstall. Ref: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/ICE57-with-HKMU-td5795201.html -Original Message- From: Dave Williamson [mailto:d...@clearskysoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:56 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Yes there have been. That is why we held at 2.0 and didn't make the jump. We recently ran across the issue where a msi built in 2.0 installs under program files(x86) on x64 machines no matter what. So rather than beat that horse we are putting the time into migrating. Dave Williamson Clear Sky Software http://www.clearskysoftware.com Support: 704-554-6300 Sales: 704-568-5544 -Original Message- From: Christopher Painter chr...@iswix.com Sent: 12/4/2013 7:07 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed As I recall, there were major language changes from 2.0 to 3.0 and that refactoring would be expected. 3.0 - 3.8 should generally be backwards compatible though. From: Dave Williamson, Clear Sky Software d...@clearskysoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:50 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Context is a migration of a WiX 2.0.5805.0 solution to WiX 3.8.1128.0. Seemed to be working through the compiler and linker errors one by one just fine until I hit ICE38 regarding shortcuts. There are 2 shortcuts created to the same installed EXE. One shortcut is in the start menu and the other is on the desktop. WiX 2.0 compiled MSIs install, uninstall, and major upgrade with proper cleanup of the shortcuts just fine. Now trying to tackle in WiX 3.8. error LGHT0204 : ICE38: Component component40 installs to user profile. It's Key Path registry key must fall under HKCU. The message states that component40 installs to user profile. Why does it think that? The directory it is within is not user specific and the overall MSI is ALLUSERS=1. The following stackoverflow post looked promising but I'm not understanding it yet. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2058230/wix-create-non-advertised-shortcu t-for-all-users-per-machine And then another stackoverflow post http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17245832/wix-program-files-shortcut-for-p er-machine-install shows a shortcut as a child of the File. But doesn't really address the fact that a Directory/ needs to have a RemoveFolder/ and RegistryValue/ which is HKCU. Other posts have noted that if HKCU is used then when another user uninstalls the registry entries are orphaned under the other user and some state that when application is run as another user it triggers a repair. I dunno on this. I also couldn't find what HKMU was in the WiX help file or online other than Hubert Kairuki Memorial University (something tells me that isn't relevant J ). Is it possible to have an ALLUSERS
Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
We have changed the shortcuts and suppressed the ICE57. This went well. Now ICE64 is popping up for the shortcuts in question. It appears that the Component containing the Shortcut needs to also contain a RemoveFolder. RemoveFolder Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir On=uninstall/ The RemoveFolder doc says that it removes empty folder if the parent component is selected for install/uninstall. So we added a RemoveFolder to each component with a Shortcut. However that leads to a light error error LGHT0130 : The primary key 'ProgramMenuCSSIDir' is duplicated in table 'RemoveFile'. Please remove one of the entries or rename a part of the primary key to avoid the collision. We realized that there are multiple shortcuts (each in their own component) that sit in the same start menu folder. And each component is part of a different feature the user may or may not install. So we individualized the RemoveFolder Ids and used the Directory parameter to override. RemoveFolder Id=component2RemoveFolderProgramMenuCSSIDir Directory=ProgramMenuCSSIDir On=uninstall/ If Feature A B are both installed and the user uninstalls B then the RemoveFolder, for the B component being removed, will see that the folder is not empty (I presume empty is in regards to the file system and not the internals of the feature) and thus will not remove the folder. Is this a correct assumption on scope (file system versus feature)? Now that the multiple RemoveFolders are in place ICE64 has been handled but ICE69 popped up. warning LGHT1076 : ICE69: Mismatched component reference. Entry 'startMenuCSWindowsExe' of the Shortcut table belongs to component 'component40'. However, the formatted string in column 'Target' references file 'file2' which belongs to component 'component2'. Components are in the same feature. Derek always said put each thing in its own Component. Each shortcut is in its own component and each file is in its own component. ICE69 sounds in conflict with this. Would it be better to suppress ICE69 or do we need to tweak the single-thing-per-component norm? It felt dirty to have to separate the shortcut component into a DirectoryRef (can't be nested in Directory) and it not be in the same include file with the File it referred to. Not sure how best to proceed on ICE69. Any guidance is welcome. dave williamson -Original Message- From: Dave Williamson [mailto:d...@clearskysoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:31 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Thanks for info on HKMU. I'll give it a try and suppress ICE57 on the compile. Is HKMU a WiX thing or did I miss a Windows installer acronym meeting? Dave Williamson -Original Message- From: Hoover, Jacob jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com Sent: 12/4/2013 8:11 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts havechanged HKMU is either HKLM or HKCU depending on if it's a per user or per machine install. Note, I have disabled ICE57, as I am using HKMU registry resources for the shortcuts. Windows Installer complains about per-user data and a keypath that can be per-user or per-machine. There are numerous complaints about ICE57, the biggest from Rob M himself saying they neglected to take the ALLUSERS property into account when creating it. While I could replace HKMU with HKCU and avoid the ICE57, it would then leave behind these registry fragments if user A did the install but user B did the uninstall. Ref: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/ICE57-with-HKMU-td5795201.html -Original Message- From: Dave Williamson [mailto:d...@clearskysoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:56 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Yes there have been. That is why we held at 2.0 and didn't make the jump. We recently ran across the issue where a msi built in 2.0 installs under program files(x86) on x64 machines no matter what. So rather than beat that horse we are putting the time into migrating. Dave Williamson -Original Message- From: Christopher Painter chr...@iswix.com Sent: 12/4/2013 7:07 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed As I recall, there were major language changes from 2.0 to 3.0 and that refactoring would be expected. 3.0 - 3.8 should generally be backwards compatible though. From: Dave Williamson, Clear Sky Software d...@clearskysoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:50 PM To: wix
Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
I did some tests on multiple ways to handle shortcuts a few months ago: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31481614 I didn't really get any authoritative answer on whether my findings are correct or what option is better, though. -- Nicolás Leave it to Microsoft to make computer programming an experimental science 2013/12/4 Dave Williamson, Clear Sky Software d...@clearskysoftware.com: Context is a migration of a WiX 2.0.5805.0 solution to WiX 3.8.1128.0. Seemed to be working through the compiler and linker errors one by one just fine until I hit ICE38 regarding shortcuts. There are 2 shortcuts created to the same installed EXE. One shortcut is in the start menu and the other is on the desktop. WiX 2.0 compiled MSIs install, uninstall, and major upgrade with proper cleanup of the shortcuts just fine. Now trying to tackle in WiX 3.8. error LGHT0204 : ICE38: Component component40 installs to user profile. It's Key Path registry key must fall under HKCU. The message states that component40 installs to user profile. Why does it think that? The directory it is within is not user specific and the overall MSI is ALLUSERS=1. The following stackoverflow post looked promising but I'm not understanding it yet. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2058230/wix-create-non-advertised-shortcu t-for-all-users-per-machine And then another stackoverflow post http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17245832/wix-program-files-shortcut-for-p er-machine-install shows a shortcut as a child of the File. But doesn't really address the fact that a Directory/ needs to have a RemoveFolder/ and RegistryValue/ which is HKCU. Other posts have noted that if HKCU is used then when another user uninstalls the registry entries are orphaned under the other user and some state that when application is run as another user it triggers a repair. I dunno on this. I also couldn't find what HKMU was in the WiX help file or online other than Hubert Kairuki Memorial University (something tells me that isn't relevant J ). Is it possible to have an ALLUSERS msi and NOT write to user specific registry, file, or any other user specific resource? In WiX 2.0 we did the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theincludebelow.inc ? /Directory /Directory !-- System32 install group -- Directory Id=SystemFolder / /Directory . various other wxs constructs . Include Directory Id='CSWINDOWSDIR' Name='CLEARS_1' LongName='C s Windows' . other file components including file2 . Component Id=component40 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='startMenuCsWindowsExe' Directory='ProgramMenuCSSIDir' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component Component Id=component41 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='desktopCsWindowsExe' Directory='DesktopFolder' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component /Directory /Include In WiX 3.8 we are trying the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theequivalentincludeofthe2.0withshortcutcomponentstrippedout.inc ? /Directory /Directory !--
Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
Nice write up. A slight variation for your list ... We separated a non-advertised shortcut from the exe into its own component with reg entry and remove folder ... And nested that in a directoryref. Eventually we get to an ICE69 because we too have multiple shortcuts across multiple features in the same start menu folder. We suppressed ICE69 for now and will do some install, uninstall, and major upgrade tests to see if the expected clean behavior is observed. Dave Williamson -Original Message- From: Nicolás Alvarez nicolas.alva...@gmail.com Sent: 12/5/2013 6:32 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed I did some tests on multiple ways to handle shortcuts a few months ago: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31481614 I didn't really get any authoritative answer on whether my findings are correct or what option is better, though. -- Nicolás Leave it to Microsoft to make computer programming an experimental science 2013/12/4 Dave Williamson, Clear Sky Software d...@clearskysoftware.com: Context is a migration of a WiX 2.0.5805.0 solution to WiX 3.8.1128.0. Seemed to be working through the compiler and linker errors one by one just fine until I hit ICE38 regarding shortcuts. There are 2 shortcuts created to the same installed EXE. One shortcut is in the start menu and the other is on the desktop. WiX 2.0 compiled MSIs install, uninstall, and major upgrade with proper cleanup of the shortcuts just fine. Now trying to tackle in WiX 3.8. error LGHT0204 : ICE38: Component component40 installs to user profile. It's Key Path registry key must fall under HKCU. The message states that component40 installs to user profile. Why does it think that? The directory it is within is not user specific and the overall MSI is ALLUSERS=1. The following stackoverflow post looked promising but I'm not understanding it yet. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2058230/wix-create-non-advertised-shortcu t-for-all-users-per-machine And then another stackoverflow post http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17245832/wix-program-files-shortcut-for-p er-machine-install shows a shortcut as a child of the File. But doesn't really address the fact that a Directory/ needs to have a RemoveFolder/ and RegistryValue/ which is HKCU. Other posts have noted that if HKCU is used then when another user uninstalls the registry entries are orphaned under the other user and some state that when application is run as another user it triggers a repair. I dunno on this. I also couldn't find what HKMU was in the WiX help file or online other than Hubert Kairuki Memorial University (something tells me that isn't relevant J ). Is it possible to have an ALLUSERS msi and NOT write to user specific registry, file, or any other user specific resource? In WiX 2.0 we did the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theincludebelow.inc ? /Directory /Directory !-- System32 install group -- Directory Id=SystemFolder / /Directory . various other wxs constructs . Include Directory Id='CSWINDOWSDIR' Name='CLEARS_1' LongName='C s Windows' . other file components including file2 . Component Id=component40 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='startMenuCsWindowsExe' Directory='ProgramMenuCSSIDir' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component Component Id=component41 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='desktopCsWindowsExe' Directory='DesktopFolder' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component /Directory /Include In WiX 3.8 we are trying the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add
Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
As I recall, there were major language changes from 2.0 to 3.0 and that refactoring would be expected. 3.0 - 3.8 should generally be backwards compatible though. From: Dave Williamson, Clear Sky Software d...@clearskysoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:50 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Context is a migration of a WiX 2.0.5805.0 solution to WiX 3.8.1128.0. Seemed to be working through the compiler and linker errors one by one just fine until I hit ICE38 regarding shortcuts. There are 2 shortcuts created to the same installed EXE. One shortcut is in the start menu and the other is on the desktop. WiX 2.0 compiled MSIs install, uninstall, and major upgrade with proper cleanup of the shortcuts just fine. Now trying to tackle in WiX 3.8. error LGHT0204 : ICE38: Component component40 installs to user profile. It's Key Path registry key must fall under HKCU. The message states that component40 installs to user profile. Why does it think that? The directory it is within is not user specific and the overall MSI is ALLUSERS=1. The following stackoverflow post looked promising but I'm not understanding it yet. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2058230/wix-create-non-advertised-shortcu t-for-all-users-per-machine And then another stackoverflow post http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17245832/wix-program-files-shortcut-for-p er-machine-install shows a shortcut as a child of the File. But doesn't really address the fact that a Directory/ needs to have a RemoveFolder/ and RegistryValue/ which is HKCU. Other posts have noted that if HKCU is used then when another user uninstalls the registry entries are orphaned under the other user and some state that when application is run as another user it triggers a repair. I dunno on this. I also couldn't find what HKMU was in the WiX help file or online other than Hubert Kairuki Memorial University (something tells me that isn't relevant J ). Is it possible to have an ALLUSERS msi and NOT write to user specific registry, file, or any other user specific resource? In WiX 2.0 we did the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theincludebelow.inc ? /Directory /Directory !-- System32 install group -- Directory Id=SystemFolder / /Directory . various other wxs constructs . Include Directory Id='CSWINDOWSDIR' Name='CLEARS_1' LongName='C s Windows' . other file components including file2 . Component Id=component40 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='startMenuCsWindowsExe' Directory='ProgramMenuCSSIDir' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component Component Id=component41 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='desktopCsWindowsExe' Directory='DesktopFolder' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component /Directory /Include In WiX 3.8 we are trying the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theequivalentincludeofthe2.0withshortcutcomponentstrippedout.inc ? /Directory /Directory !-- System32 install group -- Directory Id=SystemFolder / /Directory ?include theincludebelow.inc ? . various other
Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
Yes there have been. That is why we held at 2.0 and didn't make the jump. We recently ran across the issue where a msi built in 2.0 installs under program files(x86) on x64 machines no matter what. So rather than beat that horse we are putting the time into migrating. Dave Williamson Clear Sky Software http://www.clearskysoftware.com Support: 704-554-6300 Sales: 704-568-5544 -Original Message- From: Christopher Painter chr...@iswix.com Sent: 12/4/2013 7:07 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed As I recall, there were major language changes from 2.0 to 3.0 and that refactoring would be expected. 3.0 - 3.8 should generally be backwards compatible though. From: Dave Williamson, Clear Sky Software d...@clearskysoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:50 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Context is a migration of a WiX 2.0.5805.0 solution to WiX 3.8.1128.0. Seemed to be working through the compiler and linker errors one by one just fine until I hit ICE38 regarding shortcuts. There are 2 shortcuts created to the same installed EXE. One shortcut is in the start menu and the other is on the desktop. WiX 2.0 compiled MSIs install, uninstall, and major upgrade with proper cleanup of the shortcuts just fine. Now trying to tackle in WiX 3.8. error LGHT0204 : ICE38: Component component40 installs to user profile. It's Key Path registry key must fall under HKCU. The message states that component40 installs to user profile. Why does it think that? The directory it is within is not user specific and the overall MSI is ALLUSERS=1. The following stackoverflow post looked promising but I'm not understanding it yet. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2058230/wix-create-non-advertised-shortcu t-for-all-users-per-machine And then another stackoverflow post http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17245832/wix-program-files-shortcut-for-p er-machine-install shows a shortcut as a child of the File. But doesn't really address the fact that a Directory/ needs to have a RemoveFolder/ and RegistryValue/ which is HKCU. Other posts have noted that if HKCU is used then when another user uninstalls the registry entries are orphaned under the other user and some state that when application is run as another user it triggers a repair. I dunno on this. I also couldn't find what HKMU was in the WiX help file or online other than Hubert Kairuki Memorial University (something tells me that isn't relevant J ). Is it possible to have an ALLUSERS msi and NOT write to user specific registry, file, or any other user specific resource? In WiX 2.0 we did the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theincludebelow.inc ? /Directory /Directory !-- System32 install group -- Directory Id=SystemFolder / /Directory . various other wxs constructs . Include Directory Id='CSWINDOWSDIR' Name='CLEARS_1' LongName='C s Windows' . other file components including file2 . Component Id=component40 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='startMenuCsWindowsExe' Directory='ProgramMenuCSSIDir' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component Component Id=component41 DiskId=1 Guid=removed. Shortcut Id='desktopCsWindowsExe' Directory='DesktopFolder' Name='CSW' LongName=C s Windows WorkingDirectory='CSWINDOWSDIR' Target=[#file2] / /Component /Directory /Include In WiX 3.8 we are trying the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs
Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
HKMU is either HKLM or HKCU depending on if it's a per user or per machine install. Note, I have disabled ICE57, as I am using HKMU registry resources for the shortcuts. Windows Installer complains about per-user data and a keypath that can be per-user or per-machine. There are numerous complaints about ICE57, the biggest from Rob M himself saying they neglected to take the ALLUSERS property into account when creating it. While I could replace HKMU with HKCU and avoid the ICE57, it would then leave behind these registry fragments if user A did the install but user B did the uninstall. Ref: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/ICE57-with-HKMU-td5795201.html -Original Message- From: Dave Williamson [mailto:d...@clearskysoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:56 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Yes there have been. That is why we held at 2.0 and didn't make the jump. We recently ran across the issue where a msi built in 2.0 installs under program files(x86) on x64 machines no matter what. So rather than beat that horse we are putting the time into migrating. Dave Williamson Clear Sky Software http://www.clearskysoftware.com Support: 704-554-6300 Sales: 704-568-5544 -Original Message- From: Christopher Painter chr...@iswix.com Sent: 12/4/2013 7:07 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed As I recall, there were major language changes from 2.0 to 3.0 and that refactoring would be expected. 3.0 - 3.8 should generally be backwards compatible though. From: Dave Williamson, Clear Sky Software d...@clearskysoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:50 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Context is a migration of a WiX 2.0.5805.0 solution to WiX 3.8.1128.0. Seemed to be working through the compiler and linker errors one by one just fine until I hit ICE38 regarding shortcuts. There are 2 shortcuts created to the same installed EXE. One shortcut is in the start menu and the other is on the desktop. WiX 2.0 compiled MSIs install, uninstall, and major upgrade with proper cleanup of the shortcuts just fine. Now trying to tackle in WiX 3.8. error LGHT0204 : ICE38: Component component40 installs to user profile. It's Key Path registry key must fall under HKCU. The message states that component40 installs to user profile. Why does it think that? The directory it is within is not user specific and the overall MSI is ALLUSERS=1. The following stackoverflow post looked promising but I'm not understanding it yet. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2058230/wix-create-non-advertised-shortcu t-for-all-users-per-machine And then another stackoverflow post http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17245832/wix-program-files-shortcut-for-p er-machine-install shows a shortcut as a child of the File. But doesn't really address the fact that a Directory/ needs to have a RemoveFolder/ and RegistryValue/ which is HKCU. Other posts have noted that if HKCU is used then when another user uninstalls the registry entries are orphaned under the other user and some state that when application is run as another user it triggers a repair. I dunno on this. I also couldn't find what HKMU was in the WiX help file or online other than Hubert Kairuki Memorial University (something tells me that isn't relevant J ). Is it possible to have an ALLUSERS msi and NOT write to user specific registry, file, or any other user specific resource? In WiX 2.0 we did the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDocsDir Name=Documents / /Directory /Directory !-- application install group -- Directory Id='ProgramFilesFolder' Directory Id='CSSIDIR' Name='CSSI' ?include theincludebelow.inc ? /Directory /Directory !-- System32 install group -- Directory Id=SystemFolder / /Directory . various other wxs constructs . Include Directory Id
Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed
Thanks for info on HKMU. I'll give it a try and suppress ICE57 on the compile. Is HKMU a WiX thing or did I miss a Windows installer acronym meeting? Dave Williamson -Original Message- From: Hoover, Jacob jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com Sent: 12/4/2013 8:11 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts havechanged HKMU is either HKLM or HKCU depending on if it's a per user or per machine install. Note, I have disabled ICE57, as I am using HKMU registry resources for the shortcuts. Windows Installer complains about per-user data and a keypath that can be per-user or per-machine. There are numerous complaints about ICE57, the biggest from Rob M himself saying they neglected to take the ALLUSERS property into account when creating it. While I could replace HKMU with HKCU and avoid the ICE57, it would then leave behind these registry fragments if user A did the install but user B did the uninstall. Ref: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/ICE57-with-HKMU-td5795201.html -Original Message- From: Dave Williamson [mailto:d...@clearskysoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 6:56 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Yes there have been. That is why we held at 2.0 and didn't make the jump. We recently ran across the issue where a msi built in 2.0 installs under program files(x86) on x64 machines no matter what. So rather than beat that horse we are putting the time into migrating. Dave Williamson Clear Sky Software http://www.clearskysoftware.com Support: 704-554-6300 Sales: 704-568-5544 -Original Message- From: Christopher Painter chr...@iswix.com Sent: 12/4/2013 7:07 PM To: General discussion about the WiX toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed As I recall, there were major language changes from 2.0 to 3.0 and that refactoring would be expected. 3.0 - 3.8 should generally be backwards compatible though. From: Dave Williamson, Clear Sky Software d...@clearskysoftware.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 4:50 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] WiX 2.0.5805.0 to WiX 3.8.1128.0 - shortcuts have changed Context is a migration of a WiX 2.0.5805.0 solution to WiX 3.8.1128.0. Seemed to be working through the compiler and linker errors one by one just fine until I hit ICE38 regarding shortcuts. There are 2 shortcuts created to the same installed EXE. One shortcut is in the start menu and the other is on the desktop. WiX 2.0 compiled MSIs install, uninstall, and major upgrade with proper cleanup of the shortcuts just fine. Now trying to tackle in WiX 3.8. error LGHT0204 : ICE38: Component component40 installs to user profile. It's Key Path registry key must fall under HKCU. The message states that component40 installs to user profile. Why does it think that? The directory it is within is not user specific and the overall MSI is ALLUSERS=1. The following stackoverflow post looked promising but I'm not understanding it yet. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2058230/wix-create-non-advertised-shortcu t-for-all-users-per-machine And then another stackoverflow post http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17245832/wix-program-files-shortcut-for-p er-machine-install shows a shortcut as a child of the File. But doesn't really address the fact that a Directory/ needs to have a RemoveFolder/ and RegistryValue/ which is HKCU. Other posts have noted that if HKCU is used then when another user uninstalls the registry entries are orphaned under the other user and some state that when application is run as another user it triggers a repair. I dunno on this. I also couldn't find what HKMU was in the WiX help file or online other than Hubert Kairuki Memorial University (something tells me that isn't relevant J ). Is it possible to have an ALLUSERS msi and NOT write to user specific registry, file, or any other user specific resource? In WiX 2.0 we did the following . various other wxs constructs . !-- defines the application installation directory and contents -- Directory Id='TARGETDIR' Name='SourceDir' !-- gets a reference to Desktop so we can use it later to add shortcuts -- Directory Id='DesktopFolder'/ !-- defines start menu group -- Directory Id='ProgramMenuFolder' Name='Programs' Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIDir Name=CS Software Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIUtilitiesDir Name=Utilities / Directory Id=ProgramMenuCSSIServicesDir Name=Services / Directory Id
