Re: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION
If you look in the wix help for the Name attribute of the Shortcut element, youll see that it has the type LongFileNameType. Properties are only substituted into (formatted) string types. The ProgramMenuDir value should be a directory Id so it works as you suggested. Directory Ids are a bit special as they are properties http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa372403%28VS.85%29.aspx Using all caps just means a property is public. Property names are case sensitive so INSTALLLOCATION and InstallLocation are 2 different properties. Wix is a wrapper around Windows Installer, and that's the tricky part. Once you understand Windows Installer, WiX is straightforward :) The tutorial is a good start. I would recommend reading and rereading the MSDN http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc185688%28v=VS.85%29.aspx several times and this mailing list where you need specific help. There are also several good blogs that will turn up in a Google search too. -Original Message- From: michaelrepucci [mailto:mich...@repucci.org] Sent: 03 August 2010 20:44 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION I've read more about properties, so now I understand that there are private and public properties, but I'm still confused on how to use them successfully in my WXS file. (FYI, so far, I've just been playing around with the examples from the http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ WiX tutorial , so if you're curious where certain constructs came from, you can refer to those examples.) For instance, RegistryValue Root=HKCU Key=Software\[Manufacturer]\[ProductName] Type=string Value= KeyPath=yes / seems to insert the values of Manufacturer and ProductName that I set as the Manufacturer and Name attributes of the Product tag, respectively. Good. But if I have a shortcut to the application within the main executable File tag, like so Shortcut Id=MyStartMenu Directory=ProgramMenuDir Name=WinForms [ProductVersion] WorkingDirectory=INSTALLLOCATION Advertise=yes / The ProductVersion does NOT get replaced by the Version attribute of the Product tag, even though it's a stated property on http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370905.aspx MSDN . Moreover, I don't understand where the value for the Directory attribute in the shortcut above gets set. I did use it as the Id attribute of a Directory tag elsewhere in the WXS file, like so Directory Id=ProgramMenuDir Name=MyApp ... /Directory but I though that if I wanted to reuse the value of that Id attribute, that I needed to use an all caps name, as I did for the INSTALLLOCATION value above (which is the Id of another Directory tag). And, besides, I have another directory tag Directory Id=ProgramMenuFolder Name=Programs ... /Directory which seems to point to the MSDN property ProgramMenuFolder, rather than set it (incidentally this tag wraps the previous Directory tag). I'm sure these are really basic questions, but for some reason, that big learning curve that I heard about with regards to WiX is rearing its ugly head for me. I can't seem to find documentation that explains WiX from start to finish in way that is clear to me; the MSDN documentation on properties doesn't clarify how they're used in a WiX-based XML, and I didn't see this in the http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/main.htm WiX manual . So links to such docs would be great too. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/difference -between-INSTALLDIR-and-INSTALLLOCATION-tp5347798p5369841.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users /pre BR style=font-size:4px; a href = http://www.sdl.com;img src=http://www.sdl.com/images/email logo_150dpi-01.png alt=www.sdl.com border=0//a BR font face=arial size=2 a href = http://www.sdl.com; style=color:005740; font-weight: boldwww.sdl.com/a BR BR font face=arial size=1 color=#736F6E bSDL PLC confidential, all rights reserved./b If you are not the intended recipient of this mail SDL requests and requires that you delete it without acting upon or copying any of its contents, and we further request that you advise us.BR SDL PLC is a public limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 02675207.BR Registered address: Globe House, Clivemont Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire SL6 7DY, UK. /font -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug
Re: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION
OK it seems like you're tripping over the way that some attributes are of the Formatted type, while others aren't (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368609.aspx ) If you want a Property to expand into the text it is set to during install of your package, the type of the string you're putting the Property into must be of the Formatted type. This is why the Name attribute in your Shortcut Element isn't substituting the value in ProductVersion where as the Key attribute in your RegistryValue Element is. The Shortcut table (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/aa371847.aspx) shows that the Name value is of type Filename which is a simple string (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/aa368590.aspx) where as the Registry table (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/aa371168.aspx) shows that the Key value is of type RegPath which is Formatted (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/library/aa371173.aspx). If you look up Shortcut RegistryValue in the WiX documentation they contain the links I pasted above to the relevant tables so if in doubt always check the documentation follow the links through to the MSDN pages. All File, Component Directory Id's can be used as Properties with the correct formatting (nothing special for Directories, prepend with # or ! For Files, $ for Components, see the Formatted page above for more). Hence why you can use ProgramMenuDir for the Directory attribute in your Shortcut Element as it's an entry in the Directory table. ProgramMenuFolder is a standard Windows Installer property which points to a certain location on the target system. The list of standard Properties set by Windows Installer is at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370905.aspx Properties are very much case sensitive. An all uppercase Property is a public Property. VersionNT, versionnt VERSIONNT are not the same thing, the former resolves to an integer representing the version of the operating system while the latter 2 will always be empty unless you set them to something. This isn't a WiX learning curve. This is basic Windows Installer concepts. If you feel you need more help over above what the WiX documentation/tutorials MSDN/blog pages can provide I would recommend Phil Wilson's book The definitive guide to Windows Installer (not sure if that's the same Phil Wilson who replies on this list but it's quite likely) as it covers all this type of stuff more. You do however need to learn that WiX is a tool to create Windows Installer packages, nothing more until you start thinking about it in that way you're going to keep bouncing off the Windows Installer learning curve getting frustrated with WiX when it really isn't WiX which is the problem. Believe me when I say WiX makes this stuff a hell of a lot easier than it would be without it (like orders of magnitude easier). However don't be afraid to ask questions like those below on the list if/when you get stuck on stuff, we all had to learn this stuff at one point (well with the exception of people like Rob M, Bob A et al). These are what I call good questions, you're trying to learn how to do things properly more importantly you're showing us you're trying to learn what you've done to try understand the things you're stuck on so answering stuff like this is a pleasure rather than a chore. If you'd sent 2 lines saying something like I don't understand how properties work. Can someone please tell me, pretty please because I have a product to release in 3 days I can't get it working! I'd ignore you or send you a 1 line reply with an MSDN link as I you may have seen me do for questions of that ilk. Good luck. Palbinder Sandher Software Deployment IT Administrator T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 http://www.iesve.com **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the Virtual Environment** Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No. SC151456 Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park, Glasgow G20 0SP Email Disclaimer -Original Message- From: michaelrepucci [mailto:mich...@repucci.org] Sent: 03 August 2010 20:44 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION I've read more about properties, so now I understand that there are private and public properties, but I'm still confused on how to use them successfully in my WXS file. (FYI, so far, I've just been playing around with the examples from the http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ WiX tutorial , so if you're curious where certain constructs came from, you can refer to those examples.) For instance, RegistryValue Root=HKCU Key=Software\[Manufacturer]\[ProductName] Type=string Value= KeyPath=yes / seems to insert the values of Manufacturer and ProductName that I set as the Manufacturer and Name attributes of the Product tag, respectively. Good. But if I have a shortcut to the application within the main executable File tag, like so Shortcut Id
Re: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION
Ah, that's what I suspected. Thank you! Michael Repucci +1-718-288-4554 mich...@repucci.org http://michael.repucci.org/ -- See life as it is, not as it appears to be. On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Pally Sandher [via Windows Installer XML (WiX) toolset] ml-node+5354331-818609385-475...@n2.nabble.comml-node%2b5354331-818609385-475...@n2.nabble.com wrote: The only difference is one is named INSTALLDIR the other is named INSTALLLOCATION. It's the same as doing string xyz; string abc; It matters not which you choose just make sure you're consistently using the same one or you'll trip yourself up. MSDN page on Properties is - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370889.aspx Palbinder Sandher Software Deployment IT Administrator T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 http://www.iesve.com http://www.iesve.com?by-user=t **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the Virtual Environment** Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No. SC151456 Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park, Glasgow G20 0SP Email Disclaimer -Original Message- From: michaelrepucci [mailto:[hidden email]http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=5354331i=0] Sent: 29 July 2010 19:29 To: [hidden email] http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=5354331i=1 Subject: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION Hi WiX users, I'm brand new to WiX and was just a bit confused about the difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION. The WiX tutorial and samples seem to use INSTALLDIR as the Id of the Directory tag, but when I create a new WiX project in Visual Studio 2010, that value is automatically set to INSTALLLOCATION. Would somebody mind explaining the difference, and how/whether it matters which I choose? Links to documentation that explain the difference would be nice too. Thanks in advance! :) Michael -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/differencehttp://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/difference?by-user=t -between-INSTALLDIR-and-INSTALLLOCATION-tp5347798p5347798.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=5354331i=2 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list [hidden email] http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=5354331i=3 https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- View message @ http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/difference-between-INSTALLDIR-and-INSTALLLOCATION-tp5347798p5354331.html To unsubscribe from difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION, click herehttp://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/subscriptions/Unsubscribe.jtp?code=bWljaGFlbEByZXB1Y2NpLm9yZ3w1MzQ3Nzk4fDEyMzA1ODA4NzQ=. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/difference-between-INSTALLDIR-and-INSTALLLOCATION-tp5347798p5368509.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION
I've read more about properties, so now I understand that there are private and public properties, but I'm still confused on how to use them successfully in my WXS file. (FYI, so far, I've just been playing around with the examples from the http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/ WiX tutorial , so if you're curious where certain constructs came from, you can refer to those examples.) For instance, RegistryValue Root=HKCU Key=Software\[Manufacturer]\[ProductName] Type=string Value= KeyPath=yes / seems to insert the values of Manufacturer and ProductName that I set as the Manufacturer and Name attributes of the Product tag, respectively. Good. But if I have a shortcut to the application within the main executable File tag, like so Shortcut Id=MyStartMenu Directory=ProgramMenuDir Name=WinForms [ProductVersion] WorkingDirectory=INSTALLLOCATION Advertise=yes / The ProductVersion does NOT get replaced by the Version attribute of the Product tag, even though it's a stated property on http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370905.aspx MSDN . Moreover, I don't understand where the value for the Directory attribute in the shortcut above gets set. I did use it as the Id attribute of a Directory tag elsewhere in the WXS file, like so Directory Id=ProgramMenuDir Name=MyApp ... /Directory but I though that if I wanted to reuse the value of that Id attribute, that I needed to use an all caps name, as I did for the INSTALLLOCATION value above (which is the Id of another Directory tag). And, besides, I have another directory tag Directory Id=ProgramMenuFolder Name=Programs ... /Directory which seems to point to the MSDN property ProgramMenuFolder, rather than set it (incidentally this tag wraps the previous Directory tag). I'm sure these are really basic questions, but for some reason, that big learning curve that I heard about with regards to WiX is rearing its ugly head for me. I can't seem to find documentation that explains WiX from start to finish in way that is clear to me; the MSDN documentation on properties doesn't clarify how they're used in a WiX-based XML, and I didn't see this in the http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/main.htm WiX manual . So links to such docs would be great too. -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/difference-between-INSTALLDIR-and-INSTALLLOCATION-tp5347798p5369841.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION
The only difference is one is named INSTALLDIR the other is named INSTALLLOCATION. It's the same as doing string xyz; string abc; It matters not which you choose just make sure you're consistently using the same one or you'll trip yourself up. MSDN page on Properties is - http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370889.aspx Palbinder Sandher Software Deployment IT Administrator T: +44 (0) 141 945 8500 F: +44 (0) 141 945 8501 http://www.iesve.com **Design, Simulate + Innovate with the Virtual Environment** Integrated Environmental Solutions Limited. Registered in Scotland No. SC151456 Registered Office - Helix Building, West Of Scotland Science Park, Glasgow G20 0SP Email Disclaimer -Original Message- From: michaelrepucci [mailto:mich...@repucci.org] Sent: 29 July 2010 19:29 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION Hi WiX users, I'm brand new to WiX and was just a bit confused about the difference between INSTALLDIR and INSTALLLOCATION. The WiX tutorial and samples seem to use INSTALLDIR as the Id of the Directory tag, but when I create a new WiX project in Visual Studio 2010, that value is automatically set to INSTALLLOCATION. Would somebody mind explaining the difference, and how/whether it matters which I choose? Links to documentation that explain the difference would be nice too. Thanks in advance! :) Michael -- View this message in context: http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/difference -between-INSTALLDIR-and-INSTALLLOCATION-tp5347798p5347798.html Sent from the wix-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details: http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
