Re: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle is 32 or 64 bit?

[David Burson]

Thanks Jacob,

Here is what I now have, in case it is helpful to someone else.  I wasn’t able 
to find an UpgradeCode, so I’m using the ProductCode.  It seems to work fine 
with x86 as best as I can understand the logs (haven’t verified 64-bit yet):

In the Bundle element:














Thanks for your help!
David


> On Jul 2, 2015, at 3:59 PM, Hoover, Jacob  wrote:
> 
> 1. Strange, though on a version I would compare it to a very.x.y.z
> 
> 2. My way is the old way, and will fail if the product has been patched. 
> Upgrade code should be more reliable.
> 
> 3. Poke around from 
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2007/01/16/mailbag-how-to-detect-the-presence-of-the-vc-8-0-runtime-redistributable-package.aspx?Redirected=true
>  I know it's the wrong version but he should have a post for the version you 
> want.
> 
> 4. Possible, but it would imply downloading the exe every time. You're also 
> relying on their detection, which should be solid but it is wasted 
> do/execution time.
> 
> Sent from my phone
> 
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:11 PM, David Burson 
> mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org>> wrote:
> 
> oops -
> 
> 3. “this site” is 
> https://allthingsconfigmgr.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/visual-c-redistributables-made-simple/
> 
> 4. “this post” is 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23832713/how-to-check-that-visual-c-2013-redistributable-is-already-installed-using-wix
> 
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:46 PM, David Burson 
> mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Jacob,
> 
> Btw, I’m using WiX 3.9 R2, hoping to go to 3.10 when it is stable.
> 
> Your solution appears to work, but I have 4 questions about it:
> 
> 1. The log is strange when I upgrade.  I installed version 1.1.4 of my app, 
> then built version 1.1.5, and installed it.  In the log for the upgrade, the 
> pertinent lines (I think) are, after detect begin:
> 
> Setting version variable 'VCInstalledx86 ' to value ’12.0.21005.0'
> 
> and a few lines down:
> 
> Plan begin, 3 packages, action: Install
> Condition 'NOT VCInstalledx86' evaluates to true.
> 
> I would have expected  it to evaluate to false - so I’m not sure what’s going 
> on?
> 
> 
> 2. In ProductSearch, I’m using the ProductCode attribute.  However, I notice 
> in the WiX Toolset 
> documentation,
>  there is no ProductCode attribute for ProductSearch.  There is a required 
> UpgradeCode.  Yet your solution works, so I assume the documentation is 
> wrong?  If so, should that be reported to someone?
> 
> 
> 3. I’m not clear what ProductCodes to use.  I’m using the 2013 versions.  I 
> found this site, which for 2013 lists 2 guids for x64 and 2 for x86.  How can 
> there be 2 product codes each?  What do I really need to check?
> 
> 
> 4. According to a comment on this post, it sounds like I don’t need to check 
> at all - just run the appropriate vcredist, and it will do its own checking 
> to see if it’s already there.  Is that true?
> 
> 
> Also, in case it is useful to others, a few things I did to get this solution 
> to build:
> 
> 1. add attribute xmlns:util="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/UtilExtension” 
> to the WiX element
> 
> 2. delete the spaces in 
> 
> 3. create an identical if..else at the same level as  for the 
> ProductSearch’s, to get around this error:
> 
> error CNDL0203 : The Chain element contains an unsupported extension element 
> 'util:ProductSearch'.  The Chain element does not currently support extension 
> elements. Is the util:ProductSearch element using the correct XML Namespace?
> 
> So in my Bundle element I have:
> 
> 
>  ProductCode="{13A4EE12-23EA-3371-91EE-EFB36DDFFF3E}"/>
> 
>  ProductCode="{929FBD26-9020-399B-9A7A-751D61F0B942}"/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  PerMachine="yes" Permanent="yes" Vital="yes" Compressed="yes" 
> InstallCommand="/quiet /norestart" InstallCondition="NOT VCInstalledx86"/>
> 
>  PerMachine="yes" Permanent="yes" Vital="yes" Compressed="yes" 
> InstallCommand="/quiet /norestart" InstallCondition="NOT VCInstalledx64" />
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> David
> 
> On Jul 1, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Hoover, Jacob 
> mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> You could use a preprocessor condition.  IE:
> 
> 
> 
>  PerMachine="yes" Permanent="yes" Vital="yes" Compressed="yes" 
> InstallCommand="/quiet /norestart" InstallCondition="NOT VCInstalled"/>
> 
> 
>  PerMachine="yes" Permanent="yes" Vital="yes" Compressed="yes" 
> InstallCommand="/quiet /norestart" InstallCondition="NOT VCInstalled" />
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David Burson [mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:37 PM
> To: Gen

Re: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle is 32 or 64 bit?

[Hoover, Jacob]

1. Strange, though on a version I would compare it to a very.x.y.z

2. My way is the old way, and will fail if the product has been patched. 
Upgrade code should be more reliable.

3. Poke around from 
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2007/01/16/mailbag-how-to-detect-the-presence-of-the-vc-8-0-runtime-redistributable-package.aspx?Redirected=true
 I know it's the wrong version but he should have a post for the version you 
want.

4. Possible, but it would imply downloading the exe every time. You're also 
relying on their detection, which should be solid but it is wasted do/execution 
time.

Sent from my phone

On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:11 PM, David Burson 
mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org>> wrote:

oops -

3. “this site” is 
https://allthingsconfigmgr.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/visual-c-redistributables-made-simple/

4. “this post” is 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23832713/how-to-check-that-visual-c-2013-redistributable-is-already-installed-using-wix

On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:46 PM, David Burson 
mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org>>
 wrote:

Thanks Jacob,

Btw, I’m using WiX 3.9 R2, hoping to go to 3.10 when it is stable.

Your solution appears to work, but I have 4 questions about it:

1. The log is strange when I upgrade.  I installed version 1.1.4 of my app, 
then built version 1.1.5, and installed it.  In the log for the upgrade, the 
pertinent lines (I think) are, after detect begin:

Setting version variable 'VCInstalledx86 ' to value ’12.0.21005.0'

and a few lines down:

Plan begin, 3 packages, action: Install
Condition 'NOT VCInstalledx86' evaluates to true.

I would have expected  it to evaluate to false - so I’m not sure what’s going 
on?


2. In ProductSearch, I’m using the ProductCode attribute.  However, I notice in 
the WiX Toolset 
documentation,
 there is no ProductCode attribute for ProductSearch.  There is a required 
UpgradeCode.  Yet your solution works, so I assume the documentation is wrong?  
If so, should that be reported to someone?


3. I’m not clear what ProductCodes to use.  I’m using the 2013 versions.  I 
found this site, which for 2013 lists 2 guids for x64 and 2 for x86.  How can 
there be 2 product codes each?  What do I really need to check?


4. According to a comment on this post, it sounds like I don’t need to check at 
all - just run the appropriate vcredist, and it will do its own checking to see 
if it’s already there.  Is that true?


Also, in case it is useful to others, a few things I did to get this solution 
to build:

1. add attribute xmlns:util="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/UtilExtension” to 
the WiX element

2. delete the spaces in 

3. create an identical if..else at the same level as  for the 
ProductSearch’s, to get around this error:

error CNDL0203 : The Chain element contains an unsupported extension element 
'util:ProductSearch'.  The Chain element does not currently support extension 
elements. Is the util:ProductSearch element using the correct XML Namespace?

So in my Bundle element I have:














Thanks,
David

On Jul 1, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Hoover, Jacob 
mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com>>
 wrote:

You could use a preprocessor condition.  IE:











-Original Message-
From: David Burson [mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:37 PM
To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle 
is 32 or 64 bit?

Hi,

I have a single bundle.wxs I use when I’m creating either a 64-bit and a 32-bit 
installer for my app.  In my Chain, I have:




So, the InstallCondition is checking the hardware my users are installing on to 
see which vcredist to install.  Instead, I want the InstallCondition to decide 
which vcredist to install based on whether the installer is build as 32 or 64 
bit.  That way my users can install the 32-bit version of my app on a 64-bit OS 
if they want.

I have a variable I pass in to the bundle that is set to either “x86” or “x64”. 
 But I can’t figure out the syntax for how to use that variable in the 
InstallCondition for the vcredist’s, or how to create a boolean variable (e.g., 
Bundle_is_x64) that I can set based on the value of the string variable I pass 
in.

Can someone point me in the right direction?  Or maybe there’s a better way 
than using my own variable?

Thanks
David
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Re: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle is 32 or 64 bit?

[David Burson]

oops -

3. “this site” is 
https://allthingsconfigmgr.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/visual-c-redistributables-made-simple/

4. “this post” is 
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23832713/how-to-check-that-visual-c-2013-redistributable-is-already-installed-using-wix

On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:46 PM, David Burson 
mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org>> wrote:

Thanks Jacob,

Btw, I’m using WiX 3.9 R2, hoping to go to 3.10 when it is stable.

Your solution appears to work, but I have 4 questions about it:

1. The log is strange when I upgrade.  I installed version 1.1.4 of my app, 
then built version 1.1.5, and installed it.  In the log for the upgrade, the 
pertinent lines (I think) are, after detect begin:

Setting version variable 'VCInstalledx86 ' to value ’12.0.21005.0'

and a few lines down:

Plan begin, 3 packages, action: Install
Condition 'NOT VCInstalledx86' evaluates to true.

I would have expected  it to evaluate to false - so I’m not sure what’s going 
on?


2. In ProductSearch, I’m using the ProductCode attribute.  However, I notice in 
the WiX Toolset 
documentation,
 there is no ProductCode attribute for ProductSearch.  There is a required 
UpgradeCode.  Yet your solution works, so I assume the documentation is wrong?  
If so, should that be reported to someone?


3. I’m not clear what ProductCodes to use.  I’m using the 2013 versions.  I 
found this site, which for 2013 lists 2 guids for x64 and 2 for x86.  How can 
there be 2 product codes each?  What do I really need to check?


4. According to a comment on this post, it sounds like I don’t need to check at 
all - just run the appropriate vcredist, and it will do its own checking to see 
if it’s already there.  Is that true?


Also, in case it is useful to others, a few things I did to get this solution 
to build:

1. add attribute xmlns:util="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/UtilExtension” to 
the WiX element

2. delete the spaces in 

3. create an identical if..else at the same level as  for the 
ProductSearch’s, to get around this error:

error CNDL0203 : The Chain element contains an unsupported extension element 
'util:ProductSearch'.  The Chain element does not currently support extension 
elements. Is the util:ProductSearch element using the correct XML Namespace?

So in my Bundle element I have:














Thanks,
David

On Jul 1, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Hoover, Jacob 
mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com>>
 wrote:

You could use a preprocessor condition.  IE:











-Original Message-
From: David Burson [mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:37 PM
To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle 
is 32 or 64 bit?

Hi,

I have a single bundle.wxs I use when I’m creating either a 64-bit and a 32-bit 
installer for my app.  In my Chain, I have:




So, the InstallCondition is checking the hardware my users are installing on to 
see which vcredist to install.  Instead, I want the InstallCondition to decide 
which vcredist to install based on whether the installer is build as 32 or 64 
bit.  That way my users can install the 32-bit version of my app on a 64-bit OS 
if they want.

I have a variable I pass in to the bundle that is set to either “x86” or “x64”. 
 But I can’t figure out the syntax for how to use that variable in the 
InstallCondition for the vcredist’s, or how to create a boolean variable (e.g., 
Bundle_is_x64) that I can set based on the value of the string variable I pass 
in.

Can someone point me in the right direction?  Or maybe there’s a better way 
than using my own variable?

Thanks
David
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Re: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle is 32 or 64 bit?

[David Burson]

Thanks Jacob,

Btw, I’m using WiX 3.9 R2, hoping to go to 3.10 when it is stable.

Your solution appears to work, but I have 4 questions about it:

1. The log is strange when I upgrade.  I installed version 1.1.4 of my app, 
then built version 1.1.5, and installed it.  In the log for the upgrade, the 
pertinent lines (I think) are, after detect begin:

Setting version variable 'VCInstalledx86 ' to value ’12.0.21005.0'

and a few lines down:

Plan begin, 3 packages, action: Install
Condition 'NOT VCInstalledx86' evaluates to true.

I would have expected  it to evaluate to false - so I’m not sure what’s going 
on?


2. In ProductSearch, I’m using the ProductCode attribute.  However, I notice in 
the WiX Toolset 
documentation,
 there is no ProductCode attribute for ProductSearch.  There is a required 
UpgradeCode.  Yet your solution works, so I assume the documentation is wrong?  
If so, should that be reported to someone?


3. I’m not clear what ProductCodes to use.  I’m using the 2013 versions.  I 
found this site, which for 2013 lists 2 guids for x64 and 2 for x86.  How can 
there be 2 product codes each?  What do I really need to check?


4. According to a comment on this post, it sounds like I don’t need to check at 
all - just run the appropriate vcredist, and it will do its own checking to see 
if it’s already there.  Is that true?


Also, in case it is useful to others, a few things I did to get this solution 
to build:

1. add attribute xmlns:util="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/UtilExtension” to 
the WiX element

2. delete the spaces in 

3. create an identical if..else at the same level as  for the 
ProductSearch’s, to get around this error:

error CNDL0203 : The Chain element contains an unsupported extension element 
'util:ProductSearch'.  The Chain element does not currently support extension 
elements. Is the util:ProductSearch element using the correct XML Namespace?

So in my Bundle element I have:














Thanks,
David

On Jul 1, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Hoover, Jacob 
mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com>> wrote:

You could use a preprocessor condition.  IE:











-Original Message-
From: David Burson [mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:37 PM
To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle 
is 32 or 64 bit?

Hi,

I have a single bundle.wxs I use when I’m creating either a 64-bit and a 32-bit 
installer for my app.  In my Chain, I have:




So, the InstallCondition is checking the hardware my users are installing on to 
see which vcredist to install.  Instead, I want the InstallCondition to decide 
which vcredist to install based on whether the installer is build as 32 or 64 
bit.  That way my users can install the 32-bit version of my app on a 64-bit OS 
if they want.

I have a variable I pass in to the bundle that is set to either “x86” or “x64”. 
 But I can’t figure out the syntax for how to use that variable in the 
InstallCondition for the vcredist’s, or how to create a boolean variable (e.g., 
Bundle_is_x64) that I can set based on the value of the string variable I pass 
in.

Can someone point me in the right direction?  Or maybe there’s a better way 
than using my own variable?

Thanks
David
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Re: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle is 32 or 64 bit?

[Hoover, Jacob]

You could use a preprocessor condition.  IE:











-Original Message-
From: David Burson [mailto:david_bur...@ntm.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 2:37 PM
To: General discussion about the WiX toolset.
Subject: [WiX-users] how can I set InstallCondition based on whether my bundle 
is 32 or 64 bit?

Hi,

I have a single bundle.wxs I use when I’m creating either a 64-bit and a 32-bit 
installer for my app.  In my Chain, I have:




So, the InstallCondition is checking the hardware my users are installing on to 
see which vcredist to install.  Instead, I want the InstallCondition to decide 
which vcredist to install based on whether the installer is build as 32 or 64 
bit.  That way my users can install the 32-bit version of my app on a 64-bit OS 
if they want.

I have a variable I pass in to the bundle that is set to either “x86” or “x64”. 
 But I can’t figure out the syntax for how to use that variable in the 
InstallCondition for the vcredist’s, or how to create a boolean variable (e.g., 
Bundle_is_x64) that I can set based on the value of the string variable I pass 
in.

Can someone point me in the right direction?  Or maybe there’s a better way 
than using my own variable?

Thanks
David
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