Re: Malformed checkboxes in Window Attributes window

2015-06-20 Thread Alwin

Hi,

Josip Deanovic schreef:

Hi!

Did anybody else notice the malformed look of checkboxes in "Window
Attributes" window?


Yes, but it's not malformed. The first (read-only) box indicates the 
window hint requested by the program. The second one is a tristate check 
box, that can be changed to override it. Some programs (GNOME/GTK?) 
might need it to run correctly under Window Maker. (See also the Help 
balloon, when hovering the first check box.


It can also be used to remove the resize bar on some Window Maker 
panels, as they can't be resized currently. To turn the resize bar off 
in those panels by default, would look better imho: WPrefs panel, Color 
panel, and the panels for opening images/directories/programs.





I have attached the screenshot (~189KiB, PNG) which shows how it looks
on my setup.


Regards




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Re: Malformed checkboxes in Window Attributes window

2015-06-20 Thread Josip Deanovic
Quoting message written on Saturday 2015-06-20 10:41:37:
> Hi,
> 
> Josip Deanovic schreef:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > Did anybody else notice the malformed look of checkboxes in "Window
> > Attributes" window?
> 
> Yes, but it's not malformed. The first (read-only) box indicates the
> window hint requested by the program. The second one is a tristate check
> box, that can be changed to override it. Some programs (GNOME/GTK?)
> might need it to run correctly under Window Maker. (See also the Help
> balloon, when hovering the first check box.
> 
> It can also be used to remove the resize bar on some Window Maker
> panels, as they can't be resized currently. To turn the resize bar off
> in those panels by default, would look better imho: WPrefs panel, Color
> panel, and the panels for opening images/directories/programs.
> 

Thank you for the response.

This is probably some new feature as I don't remember seeing this
before.
I have just turned on balloons for "internal help". Without this
I couldn't see the help balloon for check boxes.

The appearance of the check boxes immediately reminded me to the
look of an incorrectly drawn area i X, that's why I thought it was a
malformed check box. :-)

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Re: Malformed checkboxes in Window Attributes window

2015-07-07 Thread Rodolfo García Peñas (kix)


Alwin  escribió:


Hi,

Josip Deanovic schreef:

Hi!

Did anybody else notice the malformed look of checkboxes in "Window
Attributes" window?


Yes, but it's not malformed. The first (read-only) box indicates the  
window hint requested by the program. The second one is a tristate  
check box, that can be changed to override it. Some programs  
(GNOME/GTK?) might need it to run correctly under Window Maker. (See  
also the Help balloon, when hovering the first check box.


It can also be used to remove the resize bar on some Window Maker  
panels, as they can't be resized currently. To turn the resize bar  
off in those panels by default, would look better imho: WPrefs  
panel, Color panel, and the panels for opening  
images/directories/programs.


Hello,

IMO, this new feature is terrible :-)

I don't like it and is difficult to understand for an user. Is not  
intutive. The checkboxes don't have title or something like that show  
what they do.


Really the user want to know the hint requested by the program?

If the dialog.c/panels* needs handle titlebar, resizebar,... it could  
be implemented in the window.c/wCreateInternalWindow function.


IMO, this feature should be removed and find new ideas for the problems.

Cheers,
kix

PS: I had the same thought, malformed look of checkboxes in "Window  
Attributes" window






I have attached the screenshot (~189KiB, PNG) which shows how it looks
on my setup.


Regards




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Re: Malformed checkboxes in Window Attributes window

2015-07-07 Thread Carlos R. Mafra
On Tue,  7 Jul 2015 at 10:58:13 +, Rodolfo García Peñas (kix) wrote:
> 
> Alwin  escribió:
> 
> >Hi,
> >
> >Josip Deanovic schreef:
> >>Hi!
> >>
> >>Did anybody else notice the malformed look of checkboxes in "Window
> >>Attributes" window?
> >
> >Yes, but it's not malformed. The first (read-only) box indicates
> >the window hint requested by the program. The second one is a
> >tristate check box, that can be changed to override it. Some
> >programs (GNOME/GTK?) might need it to run correctly under Window
> >Maker. (See also the Help balloon, when hovering the first check
> >box.
> >
> >It can also be used to remove the resize bar on some Window Maker
> >panels, as they can't be resized currently. To turn the resize bar
> >off in those panels by default, would look better imho: WPrefs
> >panel, Color panel, and the panels for opening
> >images/directories/programs.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> IMO, this new feature is terrible :-)
> 
> I don't like it and is difficult to understand for an user. Is not
> intutive. The checkboxes don't have title or something like that
> show what they do.
> 
> Really the user want to know the hint requested by the program?
> 
> If the dialog.c/panels* needs handle titlebar, resizebar,... it
> could be implemented in the window.c/wCreateInternalWindow function.
> 
> IMO, this feature should be removed and find new ideas for the problems.

I agree. The current layout is confusing, looks bad, and has no
counterpart in NEXTSTEP afaik. Furthermore, having the two types of
checkboxes side by side looks redundant.

Christophe, I guess this solution needs to be reverted.


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