[wpkg-users] First test with architecture dependencies...

2013-01-04 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I'm starting to move out of XPsp3 32 bit, moving also to WPKG-GP.

Anyway, i've setup a test recipe (for WPKG-GP, of course) and added to
profiles.xml:

profile id=default architecture=x86 
depends profile-id=base /
package package-id=xptweaks-disable-csc /
/profile

profile id=default architecture=x64 
package package-id=wpkg-gp /
package package-id=wpkg-gp-settings /
/profile

If i start WPKG on the win7 x86 box, in the log i can see that wpkg
correctly idetify the os as 'x64', apply profile 'default' but start to
install packages on 'base' profile plus 'xptweaks-disable-csc'
packages.


What i'm missing? Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] First test with architecture dependencies...

2013-01-04 Thread Marco Gaiarin

 What i'm missing? Thanks.

OK, i've done a:

host architecture=x86 name=.+ profile-id=default /
host architecture=x64 name=.+ profile-id=default64 /

and this way seems to work.

Sorrty RTFM, i supposed i can use architecture match on 'profile' node,
but it is not the case. ;-)

http://wpkg.org/Extended_host_attribute_matching

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Re: [wpkg-users] Windows 7 Home

2012-10-17 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! clei...@gmail.com
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 Hi, i'd like to implement this feature if I knew how Ferro Backup did that. . 
 .

Ferro Backup it is not open source, so there's no way to look at the
code.

But googling around lead to:


http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.serviceprocess.servicebase.onshutdown.aspx

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/bclteam/archive/2007/11/01/change-in-system-serviceprocess-shutdown-is-coming-in-3-5-rtm-inbar-gazit.aspx

so seems that effectively now on shutdown windows calls Stop() if
OnShutdown() are not defined.


Still there's all the trouble around shutdown timeout and the visual
feedback to the user.

For the firstm, i suspect that some timeout was added (eg, look at
http://ezinearticles.com/?My-Windows-7-Is-Slow---Learn-Tricks-If-Your-Windows-7-Is-Slowid=5696200).

For the visual feedback, i don't know if it was related to:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms700677%28VS.85%29.aspx

(but i suspect no).

They put a custom wininit.exe.mui?! Boh...

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[wpkg-users] Windows XP firewall strangeness...

2012-10-08 Thread Marco Gaiarin

It is some year that i set the windows firewall with 'netsh firewall'
in a wpkg recipe, using 'execute once'.
Some days ago, i've found a internet page that explain how the setting
are saved, in registry, so i've modified the recipe as:

check type=logical condition=and
check type=registry condition=equals 
path=HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess\Start value=2 /
check type=registry condition=equals 
path=HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy\StandardProfile\EnableFirewall
 value=1 /
check type=registry condition=equals 
path=HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy\WPKGConfigVersion
 value=20121005 /
/check

install cmd='%WPKGROOT%\packages\firewall.bat' /
install cmd='reg add 
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy 
/f /v WPKGConfigVersion /t REG_SZ /d 20121005' /

(firewall.bat sets the rules using 'netsh firewall' commands).

Recipe do what expected (eg, firewall rules are applied correctly and works),
but recipe fail, because there's no the EnableFirewall value on
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy\StandardProfile
registry key.
If i use the control panel firewall graphical interface, firewall
rules, and for example i disable and re-enable it, these registry
keys/value come back as expected.


For now i've added to the recipe:
install cmd='reg add 
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy\StandardProfile
 /f /v EnableFirewall /t REG_DWORD /d 1' /
install cmd='reg add 
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy\StandardProfile
 /f /v DoNotAllowExceptions /t REG_DWORD /d 0' /
install cmd='reg add 
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\SharedAccess\Parameters\FirewallPolicy\StandardProfile
 /f /v DisableNotifications /t REG_DWORD /d 0' /

but i'm curious to know what happen... Tnx.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Windows 7 Home

2012-10-03 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! SERVICE LUKAS
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I've noticed this thread WPKG on Windows 7 from last month
 (ufortunately I wasn't subscribed then) but some things are still
 not clear to me:

Still i'm seeking some feedback, too.


Supposing that here there's both the WPKG Client and WPKG-gp authors,
this is a lack of time? Motivation?

We can do something to help?!

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Re: [wpkg-users] Advice on remote assistance program to deploy

2012-10-01 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Marco Cunico
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 not an administrator of the computer. The ideal solution would support linux 
 as
 an operator OS as most of our IT staff is on Linux. We've seen UltraVNC and
 all his plugins like DC or helpware but we'd like to hear your opinion

As others, i prefere TightVNC, that now have a shining new .msi
installer with a docs full of specifications, and the dfmirage driver
are bakc, so there's also performance improvement.


Attached my recipe, still i use/prefere the 'save registry portion on a
working box and load elsewhere' method (with a -settings recipe), and
note that i install the dfmirage driver with dpinst and not with the
(broken) installer.


All for win xp 32bit, sorry.

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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG on Windows 7

2012-09-21 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Daniel Berteaud
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 I'm actually using this method:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org/msg05228.html

Trying to summarize, on win7:

 + WPKG-GP works only on startup

 + WPKGClient does not works reilable on shutdown, because windows
   after 10 minutes forcibly kill all running processes, so long
   installation never complete.


First question: seems strange to me that, even Microsoft, put an
hardcoded 'ten minutes' delay, really there's no knob to simply disable
or make it long?! Even the cited 'MaxGPOScriptWait' that seems to
have exactly 10 minutes timeout as default?
Someone have tried to install WPKGClient, put MaxGPOScriptWait=0 and
give it a try?

Second question: AFAIK, WPKGClient use the ''service'' because in XP
there's no shutdown and startup scripts, so start of the service are
considered ''startup'' and stop of the service ''shutdown''.
But also, that wpkg and the ''display helper'' WPKGMessage communicate
with a simply method: probably WPKGClient redirect stdout to a pipe, or
instruct wpkg.js to write to a pipe, and WPKGMessage read them.
It is possible, with a simple shutdown script, to run WPKGMessage and
wpkg.js and ''connect'' them?


Some minor question arise, specifically to Daniel:

+ you propose to create a secure user account wpkguser: ok, it is
  better, but is needed?! Eg, logoff script cannot access to shares in
  'guest access' mode?

+ you modify some parameters, via (L)GPO or registry: you have some
  reference documentation/mapping/... about equivalence of GPO and
  registry? Eg, you have catched by trial and error or found some
  reference?


Thanks to all.

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[wpkg-users] WPKG on Windows 7

2012-09-11 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I mimic Rainer email of august about win8, becuse i'm still on XP and
i've to start, and quickly, to plan a migration to seven.

I've acquired a good confidence with WPKG on XP 32 bit, and have waited
so long permit me at least to move from XP 32bit to seven 64 bit, with no
grey/mixed areas, so with some simplification.

Anyway, i have many doubt, and i hope that someone can at least point me
to the right direction.


First doubt is about the ''client'': AFAI've understood:

+ WPKG Client work well on startup and shutdown on seven, but there's
  no way to have notification messages.

+ WPKG-GP have notification messages, but only on startup (and my
  experience say me that doing installation on startup is a pain).

So i'm thinking to keep WPKG Client, loosing shutdown message, at least
for now.


Second doubt is about not ''WPKG'' per se, but generally the
''ecosystem''. I try to explain me better.

I don't use AD, i've a ''pure'' NT-like setup with samba. On XP, i use:
 + WPKG for deploy
 + WPKG for system wide configuration (via directly patching the registry)
 + ya olde policy (eg, ntconfig.pol on netlogon share) for user based
   configuration; now i impose only a limit on roaming profile size and
   i setup some folder redirection.

Ok, reading around seems that old policy are not more useable on vista
and better (allelujah! ;), but seems to me that also there's no way to
obtain the same ''feature'' directly patching the registry, nor the
Local GPO seems to have the ''power'' to modify some aspect, like
roaming profile size and folder redirection (ignoring the fact that
copying around the LGPO seems not a so simple task).


Someone have at least some hints on that? Thanks.

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[wpkg-users] [consult...@kaply.com: [Mozilla Enterprise] MAJOR Change Setting Default Preferences for Firefox 14]

2012-08-03 Thread Marco Gaiarin

From Mozilla Enterprise mailing lists.

I've not tested (i'm still on 10ESR), but... FYI.

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Firefox 14
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In case people didn't see this on my blog:

If you are running into problems with Firefox 14 not honoring values
in you set the default preferences, it's because Firefox preference
files have moved from defaults/pref to defaults/preferences and your
files have to move as well. (See bug 779437.)

Apparently custom changes to the default preferences were supposed to
be there all along, but no one actually knew that (not even Firefox).

So when you are creating JS files for your autoconfig settings or to
set the various add-on scopes values, make sure they are in
defaults/preferences. (You'll have to create this directory.) Note
that this method works fine on Firefox 10 as well. I'll be updating
all my posts as I have time.

On a separate note, the CCK is broke on Firefox 14 - it's not creating
bookmarks properly. I've tracked the problem down to a Places change,
but at this point I am unable to work around it. I've contacted the
developer that made the change that broke me, but I haven't heard
back. Hopefully he'll be able to point me in the right direction.

I can't stress this enough. PLEASE test on Aurora and Beta if you have
the bandwidth to do so. These Firefox 14 issuse should not have been
found after Firefox 14 was released. And yes, I'll admit that I've
been failing in my testing as well, but to be blunt, I'm not paid for
any of the time I spend on enterprise, so it's not one of my top
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Re: [wpkg-users] Remote site repositories

2012-05-15 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 If you are fine with hard-wiring a client-server association, then

I've remember, some past thread, that probably are well suited for the
wiki...

We have just discussed that probably the best way to lock a client to a
''server'' is to use machine auth, but that works only for WPKGClient
(AFAIK) and with a ''pure'' MS AD, does not work in a Samba domain.


 If network 192.168.1.0/24 then SOFTWARE=\\192.168.1.x\wpkg\software
 If network 192.168.2.0/24 then SOFTWARE=\\192.168.2.x\\wpkg\software

I'm a bit curious. How do you check network address with cmd? I've
googled around a bit, but...

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Re: [wpkg-users] Remote site repositories

2012-05-14 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Donny Brooks
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 We are currently running our wpkg setup with just one central repository or 
 software store. However we have samba home servers for all of our 
 individual sections, some of which are remote offices. These remote offices 
 internet connection back to us is via a T1 and can get backlogged easily. I 
 am looking into a way to enable the users at these locations to be able to 
 pull packages from a share on their local server rather than pull across the 
 T1 ad be figthing with all of our other users also. I still want to keep the 
 configs and base wpkg centralized so as to make administration easier. I 
 could use rsync and cron to keep the remote packages up to date also. My 
 issue is how to implement this? Would I simply change the individual people's 
 profile.xml SOFTWARE variable to point to the share on their local server? 
 Thanks in advance for an input.

I use this setup. I manage 10-15 WPKG ''server'', all recipe (packages)
base are kept in sync using csync2, while profile and hosts setup are
local.

Every installation have a different client config file (i use wpkg
client, so settings.xml) that point to the right software repository,
that i keep in sync with unison.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Remote site repositories

2012-05-14 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Donny Brooks
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 Thanks for that. So if I read correctly you actually have separate servers 
 for each location? Meaning you have each locations wpkg client software 
 pointing to their local server rather than a centralized one? Then you just 
 make changes to the central settings.xml and it propogates to the other 
 servers?

Really, i've a centralized recipe (package/*.xml) database, while i
have local hosts/profile management to handle some local differences.

So i keep in sync package/*.xml and %SOFTWARE%, and handle the rest
locally.

[but it is my setup, every ''level'' of local/sync setup are possible]

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Re: [wpkg-users] [OT] i hate script in cmd... ;(((

2012-02-17 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Malte Starostik
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 I'm really just guessing, but looking at your script I see you're using 
 find.  
 I've *never* got find/findstr to work from within scripts launched by wpkg, I 
 assume it's somehow very pickety about its standard file handles and barfs on 
 the pipes WSH gives it.

Ok, now there's no time, but... i will learn WSH/WBEM.

Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] [OT] i hate script in cmd... ;(((

2012-02-15 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! k2
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 Have you tried to add %ComSpec% /c in front of main command?

Yess, nothing changed.


 Could you show the package xml with cmd= ?

Of course.

 package
id=sudowin-settings
name=Sudo for Windows settings
revision=20120214:2
reboot=false
priority=5 
depends package-id=sudowin /

check type=logical condition=and
check type=logical condition=or
check type=logical condition=not
check type=file condition=exists 
path='%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.xml' /
/check
check type=file condition=datemodifyequalto 
path=%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.xml 
value=@%ProgramFiles%\Sudowin\Server\sudoers.xml /
/check
check type=file condition=datemodifyequalto 
path=%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%DOMAIN%.xml 
value=@%ProgramFiles%\Sudowin\Server\sudoers.xml /
check type=logical condition=or
check type=logical condition=not
check type=file condition=exists 
path='%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.grp' /
/check
check type=logical condition=and
check type=file 
condition=datemodifyolderthan 
path=%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.grp 
value=@%SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.old /
check type=execute 
path='%WPKGROOT%\tools\setlgrp.bat check 
\%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.grp\ %DOMAIN%' 
condition=exitcodeequalto value=0 /
/check
/check
check type=execute path='%WPKGROOT%\tools\setlgrp.bat 
check \%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%DOMAIN%.grp\ %DOMAIN%' 
condition=exitcodeequalto value=0 /
/check

install cmd='%WPKGROOT%\tools\setlgrp.bat add 
\%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%DOMAIN%.grp\ %DOMAIN%' /
install cmd='%COMSPEC% /c if exist 
%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.grp 
%WPKGROOT%\tools\setlgrp.bat add 
\%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.grp\ %DOMAIN%' /
install cmd='%COMSPEC% /c copy /y 
%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%DOMAIN%.xml 
%ProgramFiles%\Sudowin\Server\sudoers.xml' /
install cmd='%COMSPEC% /c if exist 
%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.xml copy /y 
%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.xml 
%ProgramFiles%\Sudowin\Server\sudoers.xml' /

upgrade include=install /
downgrade include=upgrade /

remove cmd='%COMSPEC% /c if exist 
%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.grp 
%WPKGROOT%\tools\setlgrp.bat delete 
\%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%COMPUTERNAME%.grp\ %DOMAIN%' /
remove cmd='%WPKGROOT%\tools\setlgrp.bat delete 
\%WPKGROOT%\packages\sudowin\sudoers-%DOMAIN%.grp\ %DOMAIN%' /
remove cmd='%COMSPEC% /c del /f /q 
%ProgramFiles%\Sudowin\Server\sudoers.xml' /
 /package

Rather complex. The rationale of these stuff are that there's at least
a per-domain configuration, but can be ''enhanced'' by an per-host
configuration.


 On which system did you try your script? Is it Seven? Is UAC active?

Ops, sorry, no. win xp sp3.


Thanks.

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[wpkg-users] [OT] i hate script in cmd... ;(((

2012-02-14 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I've wrote down a script/helper to add me in the task of adding some
domain group to some local group, wrapping around 'net localgroup'.
Script attached.

The script, on console, from SYSTEM user (the same that run wpkg) seems
to work well: check, add and remove membership correctly.

Used inside wpkg recipe (on action and check condition) behave
strangely.

Look at this. From wpkg log:

 2012-02-14 18:10:55, DEBUG   : Executing command: 
'\\FILE\wpkg\tools\setlgrp.bat check 
\\\FILE\wpkg\packages\sudowin\sudoers-SANVITO.grp\ SANVITO'.
 2012-02-14 18:10:56, DEBUG   : Execute check for program 
'\\FILE\wpkg\tools\setlgrp.bat check 
\\\FILE\wpkg\packages\sudowin\sudoers-SANVITO.grp\ SANVITO' returned '0'. 
Evaluating condition 'exitcodeequalto' revealed true when comparing to expected 
value of '0'.

from console:

 C:\WINDOWS\system32\\FILE\wpkg\tools\setlgrp.bat check 
\\\FILE\wpkg\packages\sudowin\sudoers-SANVITO.grp\ SANVITO
 C:\WINDOWS\system32echo %ERRORLEVEL%
 1
 C:\WINDOWS\system32

indeed the right answer is '1', because i've removed the membership
manually to test check condition.


Someone can help me?


PS: anothe little mystere came from  escaping... if i run:
\\FILE\wpkg\tools\setlgrp.bat check 
\\FILE\wpkg\packages\sudowin\sudoers-SANVITO.grp SANVITO
 return strange errors, i have to escape the  ... boh...

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@ECHO OFF
::
:: Script che si preoccupa di modificare le appartenenze ai gruppi locali,
:: usando 'net setlocalgroup'.
:: Riceve come input la modalità (check, add, delete), il nome del file
:: contenente le appartenenze (una per riga), nella forma:
::  gruppo localepuntoevirgolagruppo o utente  di dominio
:: e il nome del dominio.
::
:: CHANGELOG
:: (Wed Jan 25 18:22:04 CET 2012)
::  + prima versione

:: Un po' di verifiche...
::
if %2 ==  (
goto exit1
)
if not exist %2 (
goto exit1
)
if %3 ==  (
goto exit1
)

:: modo verifica
::
if %1 == check (
for /f tokens=1,2 delims=; %%a in (%2) do (
rem echo net localgroup %%a pipe find /i %3\%%b
net localgroup %%a | find /i %3\%%b nul
if ERRORLEVEL 2 goto exit1
if ERRORLEVEL 1 (
goto exit1
)
)
goto exit0
)

:: modo add
::
if %1 == add (
for /f tokens=1,2 delims=; %%a in (%2) do (
rem echo net localgroup %%a pipe find /i %3\%%b
net localgroup %%a | find /i %3\%%b nul
if ERRORLEVEL 2 goto exit1
if ERRORLEVEL 1 (
net localgroup %%a %3\%%b /add nul
if ERRORLEVEL 1 (
goto exit1
)
)
)
goto exit0
)

:: modo delete
:: Purtroppo il controllo su ERRORLEVEL funziona in modo ''maggiore
:: o uguale di'', e non si può usare %ERRORLEVEL% perchè una volta
:: istanziata fa casino. Si veda:
::  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/39585/it
::  http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2008/09/26/8965755.aspx
::
if %1 == delete (
for /f tokens=1,2 delims=; %%a in (%2) do (
rem echo net localgroup %%a pipe find /i %3\%%b
net localgroup %%a | find /i %3\%%b nul
if ERRORLEVEL 2 goto exit1
if ERRORLEVEL 1 (
echo. nul
) else (
if ERRORLEVEL 0 (
rem echo net localgroup %%a %3\%%b /delete
net localgroup %%a %3\%%b /delete nul
if ERRORLEVEL 1 (
goto exit1
)
)
)
)
goto exit0
)

:: se il parametro è errato, lascio correre ed esco male
::

:: Molto semplicemente... esco male
::
:exit1
::echo falso
exit /b 1

:: Molto semplicemente... esco bene
::
:exit0
::echo vero
exit /b 0

Re: [wpkg-users] Big Problem with a deployment (LibO)

2012-02-09 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Cedric Frayssinet
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I know that but there is a password... And no command-line to stop or kill the
 process... But maybe you know how to make ?

...consider also the option to ''whitelist'' the wpkg.js scripts
(and/or related scripts/services) in the AV configuration.

I used Symantec Corporate Edition, now use Kaspersky, but both have that
feature.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Mbrola silent install

2012-02-07 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Stefan Pendl
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I don't think there is a better way, if the installer waits for the
 browser to terminate.

There's ever a better way. ;-)
Reading deeper the espeak docs, lead to me that the only things needed
is the 'mbrola.dll' file. ;)


 Freemake spawns a browser too, but that gets automatically
 terminated when WPKG is executed at shutdown.

I've tried that. No, stalled on shutdown. ;(

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[wpkg-users] Mbrola silent install

2012-02-06 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I've prepared a recipe for espeak (libre SAPI5 voices), but the italian
voices are very ''mr. robota''.

Looking around i've found that espeak can use mbrola
(http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/, free as in beer), that provide much
better voices.

So i've prepared a recipe to install mbrola, but the installer in
silent mode spawn at the end a browser run, so stalls waiting the user
to terminate it.
I've tried many 'task' and InnoSetup switches, and even saving an .inf
file and the run them, but there's no way: in silent mode the browser
are spawned.


There's something that i can do? I've thinked about adding a timeout,
ignore exit status and then add a 'taskkill' against the browser.


Better way? Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG + Wireless Laptops

2012-02-02 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Matthew Gyurgyik
  In chel di` si favelave...

 With a wireless laptop, will WPKG wait until the wireless connection
 come ups to attempt to contact the server? If not, when do updates
 get applied?

On windows xpsp3 i use wireless machine authentication (so the network
are setup before users login and after users logoff), and wpkg (with
wpkgclient) works flawlessy.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Deploying a new settings.xml file

2012-02-01 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! chiddie
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Is there a way to deploy a new settings.xml file to the clients that
 overrides the old one?

Sure! You can use:

%ProgramFiles%\WPKG\wpkginst.exe --SETTINGSFILE=%WPKGROOT%\settings.xml

i use a recipe like that:

 package
id=wpkg-settings
name=WPKG Settings
revision=20120120:2
priority=5
reboot=false
depends package-id=wpkg /

check type=file condition=datemodifyolderthan 
path=%WPKGROOT%\settings.xml value=@%SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.old /

install cmd='%ProgramFiles%\WPKG\wpkginst.exe 
--SETTINGSFILE=%WPKGROOT%\settings.xml' /
upgrade include=install /
downgrade include=upgrade /
 /package


Consider that settings are applied but used the next time wpkg run, so
if you write recipe that depend on some settings.xml modification, take
some precautions.

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Re: [wpkg-users] multi-site / multi wpkg repo deployments for roaming laptops and notebooks

2012-01-27 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Urs Rau (UK)
  In chel di` si favelave...

 The basic wish, need or requirement is / (or would be) to handle staff and
 equipment in branch offices. So that their desktops would all read from a 
 local
 installation, but laptops would update themselves from either. So if they come
 for a weeks training or even a months sick cover their laptops and notebooks
 would still update using the companies wpkg setup.

I've the same problem, and i've solved it (see later); i manage a
''central repository'' of WPKG recipe that i spread across a dozen of
sites using csync2 (good compromise between a simple 'scp' and a full
blown configuration manager like puppy).

Every WPKG sites have, world is not perfect ;), some particularity, so
the recipe base are identical but hosts list and profile lists differs;
before this setup, some mobile users if forgot to unplug the ethernet
cable before shutdown will get a bunch of uninstall/install tasks, then
when come back in the ''home'' network, a bunch of install/uninstall.
Absolutely boring.

I think there's at least three method to solve that:

1) create a user dedicated to access wpkg shares, using different users
 (and/or passwords) in different networks, so simply a client cannot
 connet to a stranger network.
 Pro:
  + simple and effective
  + better security (wpkg shares can be accessible only by that user(s)
and administrators
 Coons:
  + you have to manage that credentials
  + bootstrap of a wpkg client is a bit more complex

2) (i think the better) if you have an AD domain, use ''machine
 account'' authentication and let wpkg shares accessible only by
 machine accounts and administrators.
 Pro:
  + as above
  + you don't have to manage more accounts
 Coons:
  + does not work in samba/nt domains
  + works only if all machine are joined to the domain
  + clearly doesn't solve your problem if the domain are the same
across branch offices. ;-)

3) (what i use) setup a variable in wpkgClient/wpkg-gp configuration
 and check on pre/post script; if differs, exit.
 Pro:
  + extremly simple and effective
  + easy bootstrap
 Coons:
  + no security


Pratically, i've on wpkgClient 'settings.xml':

script-variable name=LOCALNETsv/script-variable
pre-action\\FILE\wpkg\wpkg-before.bat/pre-action

and on \\FILE\wpkg\wpkg-before.bat:

if not %LOCALNET% == sv (
exit 1
)

'wpkg-before.bat' are a server-side script, so effectively this
identify if client match the ''server''.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Pipe trouble...

2012-01-25 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Stefan Pendl
  In chel di` si favelave...

 If you use any kind of redirection (, , |, etc.) you need to use
 the command prompt too.

Perfect, now works. Thanks. ;)

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[wpkg-users] Pipe trouble...

2012-01-24 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I've tried to use pipes in check condition.
I've tried ''plain'':

check type=execute path='net localgroup Sudoers | find /i 
%DOMAIN%\ced' condition=exitcodeequalto value=0 /

or xml-escaped:

check type=execute path='net localgroup Sudoers #124; find /i 
%DOMAIN%\ced' condition=exitcodeequalto value=0 /

but both give:

 2012-01-24 18:18:56, DEBUG   : Executing command: 'net localgroup Sudoers \| 
find /i SANVITO\ced'.
 2012-01-24 18:18:56, DEBUG   : Execute check for program 'net localgroup 
Sudoers \| find /i SANVITO\ced' returned '1'. Evaluating condition 
'exitcodeequalto' revealed false when comparing to expected value of '0'.
 2012-01-24 18:18:56, DEBUG   : Result of logical 'AND' check is false.
 2012-01-24 18:18:56, ERROR   : Could not process (upgrade) Sudo for Windows 
settings.|Failed checking after installation.

so seems that '|' are ever escaped.


What i'm doing wrong? Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] How to execute something weekly or monthly?

2012-01-23 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Stefan Pendl
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I see some problems with this approach:

You're right, effectively after doing some test i realize that i was
wrong... simply because newer wpkg update the wpkg.xml file at every
step, not at the end.


I've simply added, in wpkg client pre execution:

 if exist %SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.xml (
copy /y %SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.xml %SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.old 
nul
 )

and now i check '%SystemRoot%\system32\wpkg.old'.

This is not really a ''safe'' method, but can be useful in some case.

EG, i've prepared a recipe to install bacula file daemon client, that i
don't use extensively but only on some client; a second recipe, if
there's a server side .conf file, activate bacula and configure it.

With a check like that, i can add a client (or modify the configuration
file) and have the second recipe do the upgrade.
Because normaly i do that not massively but on that pc, i can check if
works (really, i can do it manually, but using wpkg are very cosy! ;).

If i have some doubt, or i have to propagate some very important
update, i can upgrade revision and have a forced installation.


Rougly: because i copy wpkg.xml to wpkg.old *before* wpkg.js run, if
some configuration file have a modification date newer then wpkg.old,
it is really a new file and have to be ''upgraded''.
It is not true the opposite: but as stated, if really i need to
propagate some config options, i can update the revision.

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[wpkg-users] Get local domain name

2012-01-19 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I've to add some users/group to a local user/group in windows xp sp3.

I've tried to use:

net localgroup Unlock ced /add /domain

but does not work (user SYSTEM):

C:\WINDOWS\system32net localgroup Unlock ced /add /domain
La richiesta verrà elaborata dal controller di dominio per il dominio 
SANVITO. (the request will be processed by domain controller SANVITO)
Errore di sistema 5. (system error 5)
Accesso negato. (access denied)

If i run not using /domain (switch that, as docs stated, mean
«choose the group belonging to the primary domain», but instead
explicitly set domain:

net localgroup Unlock SANVITO\ced /add

works.


I've googled around and a proposed method to know local domain are:

systeminfo | findstr /B /C:”Domain”

but a little overkilled and os-language dependent.


There's a better way? Thanks.

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[wpkg-users] [OT] Better screensaver for a multiuser environment

2012-01-17 Thread Marco Gaiarin

Sorry, but one of the things i hate of windows client os is the absence
of a true mltiuser access, that i need sometimes.

I've finally found:

http://www.paralint.com/projects/aucun/index.html

Clearly cannot add multiuser to windows, but at least permit users
to logoff their collegues, if needed, in some case.


Now, i've to write a recipe... ;-)))

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[wpkg-users] TB as default mail client, helper.exe way...

2012-01-16 Thread Marco Gaiarin

[XP sp3 32 bit]

I've found that the wpkg wiki proposed way of making FF the default
application, so:

%ProgramFiles%\Mozilla Firefox\uninstall\helper.exe 
/SetAsDefaultAppGlobal

works also for TB:

%ProgramFiles%\Mozilla Thunderbird\uninstall\helper.exe 
/SetAsDefaultAppGlobal


If i run on a command shell, from the same user that run WPKG (SYSTEM),
i get no warning at all, do what expected and %ERRORLEVEL% are 0.

If i run from WPKG, seems to do what expected but return error 2.


I've mapped error 2 to a good exit status, but someone have at least a
clue for that?


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Re: [wpkg-users] TB as default mail client, helper.exe way...

2012-01-16 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! chiddie
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I solved in a different way.

I used 'till yesterday the registry way, but i prefer using the commandline
(no more complex recipe, less files .reg to handle).

Ok, i simply consider exit status 2 as good. ;-)

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Re: [wpkg-users] Copy directories and files with WPKG

2012-01-12 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Jurij M.
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I have a problem when trying to deploy some old windows software (made for Win
 98)with WPKG. All it is needed is to copy a folder with files ad subfolders 
 from
 shared folder to local computer and put a shortcut to public desktop. 
 I tried with xcopy and robocopy. Both are working fine from local computer, 
 but
 not with WPKG.

Normally i solve these issue creating a zip file with the correct
folder structure and then unzip it on the target computer with correct
option to recreate the folder structure.

Of course, substitute 'zip' with your preferred format/tool. ;-)

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Re: [wpkg-users] Package still installed...

2012-01-10 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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 Very likely the uninstall is not really working properly.

I can confirm. Most of NSIS installers suffer from this trouble.

Some upgrade flawlessy (so it is not a NSIS problem).


Some other trigger a disinstallation of previous version and an
installation of the newer ones, while the disinstallation suffer from
the classical ''fork'' problem of NSIS.
Symptoms are that WPKG say ''check failed after upgrade'' but software
are correctly installed (because the installation continue in
background, and normally works).

Normally i solve that situation doing, on upgrade, a disinstallation of
the previous one in a start  /wait jail (with or without the _?
option, it depends), and then an installation.

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[wpkg-users] WSH compiler?

2012-01-02 Thread Marco Gaiarin

[totally unrelated to WSH-compressor thread...]

Firtly, happy new year to all the list! ;)


We have a box (win xp) where a strange software (that clearly i cannot
upgrade and i've to use, it is related to acquiring and managing images
from an electromedical devices...) corrupt the WSH interpreter.
The problem are there from years, but these time we have the time to
reinstall the software and prove that.
I've tried to reinstall WSH (after the installation of the image
manipulation software), but the installer reply me that it is just
installed and refuse me to continue.

There's an WSH compiler compatible with WPKG? Or there's a way to run
wpkg in a ''local contained'' wsh interpreter to circumvent this
problem?

Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Strange behavior of WPKG Client

2011-12-22 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! chiddie
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Sorry, i don't understand what some connection from another user by these
 machines to that share. means :(

Ahem, probably my bad english... chiaramente se vuoi si passa alla
madrelingua, in privato. ;)

Windows support only one ''authentication session'' between server and
client; so if you have, eg, a printer connected to that server, using
to authenticate user 'joe', you cannot use a share with other users,
even the guest user (and clearly, viceversa).
[Samba have bult 'aliases', so for example i've setup 'FILE' aliases to
 mount shares, 'CUPS' aliases to connect printers, ...]

So before get tired, verify that symply you don't have other connection
active.


 As for the second option: why the av? I mean, the share is accessible by the
 XP machines, and the Windows 7 machines that succeed in executing the
 startup script have the same antivirus, configured in the same way.

It was only an option; my av solution (Kaspersky) one day start hitting
all WPKG ''scripts'' (wpkg.js, pre and post scripts) as malware, so
i've had to explicitly whitelist them.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Strange behavior of WPKG Client

2011-12-21 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! chiddie
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I understand this is probably a Windows issue, since the error is generated
 regardless the type of script, i only wanted to know if you may have a clue
 or not.

I bet on the same issue you faced some days ago: there's just some
connection from another user by these machines to that share.

Second option: the antivirus?

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Re: [wpkg-users] NTP time synchronisation

2011-12-20 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Anthony Walters
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Does anyone else use WPKG to dish out NTP time configuration
 settings, and care to put your package up here? I want to get a
 configuration nailed down and am wondering if i have missed
 something.

I use:

  package
id=ntp-settings
name=ntp client configuration
revision=20110517:1
reboot=false
priority=5

check type=registry condition=equals 
path=HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Start value=2 /

install cmd=sc config w32time start= auto /
install cmd=regedit /s %WPKGROOT%\packages\time-%LOCALNET%.reg /
install cmd=net time /setsntp:time.%LOCALNET%.lnf.it /
install cmd=net stop w32time /
install cmd=net start w32time /
install cmd=w32tm /resync /nowait /

upgrade cmd=sc config w32time start= auto /
upgrade cmd=regedit /s %WPKGROOT%\packages\time-%LOCALNET%.reg /
upgrade cmd=net time /setsntp:time.%LOCALNET%.lnf.it /
upgrade cmd=net stop w32time /
upgrade cmd=net start w32time /
upgrade cmd=w32tm /resync /nowait /

remove cmd=sc config w32time start= demand /
remove cmd=net stop w32time /
  /package

Where the .reg file contains:

 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\DateTime\Servers]
 @=0
 1=time.windows.com
 2=time.nist.gov
 0=time.sv.lnf.it

Because i was never be able to set the list of ntp server using /setsntp or, 
like
your example, /manualpeerlist.

AFAIK, /setsntp works but the server have just to be present in the
list.

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Re: [wpkg-users] net use exit code 2

2011-12-13 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Andrea Zagli
  In chel di` si favelave...

 what could be the problem?

In windows (i don't remember if it is a client or a server/protocol
limitation...) you cannot connect the same resource with two user
(even the ''guest access'' one).

So check if simply you still have a connection to the share with a
local user (administrator?), and try to connect with another user
(SYSTEM?) that run wpkg.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Oracle JInitiator

2011-10-12 Thread Marco Gaiarin

 Summary:
 
 1) from my user, works
 
 2) from SYSTEM user obtained as above, does not work (seems there's no
  way to ''grab'' windows)
 
 3) from SYSTEM user by the way of WPKG (started manually inside the
  shell as 2), works.

Addendum:

4) from SYSTEM user by the way of WPKG, executed by WPKG Client on
 shutdown, does not work.


I'm really curious...

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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 241] New: add clarification to the NSIS template

2011-10-11 Thread Marco Gaiarin

 Attached is a patch to add clarification of the remove procedure for the NSIS
 package template.

Non every NSIS package need that, indeed. My experience say that:

1) some simply works

2) some suffices a start  /wait

3) some need start  /wait *AND* the explicitation of the installed
 dir, that prevent forking; eg, for vlc:

%COMSPEC% /c start  /wait %ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN\VLC\uninstall.exe 
/S _?=%ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN\VLC

i think a better way to solve this issue. 

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Re: [wpkg-users] Oracle JInitiator

2011-10-11 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! clei...@gmail.com
  In chel di` si favelave...

 It works, the windows are shown on a desktop that is not visible. The
 downside is that installers showing dialog boxes, expecting input,
 will halt WPKG execution, but there is no way to click on the dialog
 box.  The upside is that scripts simulating input does work though :)

I reply, to make a (public) excuse to all folks that (on private( reply
me on this OT thread. I reply here also because i return in topic. ;)

I do many of my test on a SYSTEM shell obteined running:

at XY:ZW /interactive cmd.exe

and so i've tested the autoit script here; reading this post light me
something, so i've tried as my user and autoit script works.
The strange thing (for me, at least) is that from wpkg works.

Summary:

1) from my user, works

2) from SYSTEM user obtained as above, does not work (seems there's no
 way to ''grab'' windows)

3) from SYSTEM user by the way of WPKG (started manually inside the
 shell as 2), works.


Someone can explain me? Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Oracle JInitiator

2011-10-07 Thread Marco Gaiarin

 This is the first is/pftw installer that i run, so... someone can help
 me? Thanks.

Mark Cooke send me (in private, thanks!) an AutoIt! script, was my
first impact with AutoIt and i was really frustrated...

Seems that the jinit version it is not the same: the Mark's script does
not work, and my window popup with no title at all; i've tried to match
someway (using widow match mode 4 and classes) but i've no found a way.

For example the mark script have:

  WinWait(Oracle JInitiator, This will remove Oracle JInitiator from your 
computer.)
  SendKeepActive(Oracle JInitiator, This will remove Oracle JInitiator from 
your computer.);
  Send(!y)

but to match a dialog as mine (screenshot attached) i've tried also
some think like that:

  WinWait([TITLE:; CLASS:Dialog], )
  SendKeepActive([TITLE:; CLASS:Dialog])
  Send(!s)

with no clue. How can i match my window? Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Oracle JInitiator

2011-10-07 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! clei...@gmail.com
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Hi, although this fits best on the AutoIt forum, try

Ahem, ...


 WinWait()
 Send(!s)

No, for example if i run the script from a terminal, i got an 's' typed
on the terminal itself.

For now i've setup  a low timeout='' value on the uninstall stanza, but
these are the things that drive me crazy... ;(((


If someone other want to try:

http://www.insiel.it/reposit/Sistema%20-%20Utility/jinit13126.exe

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[wpkg-users] Oracle JInitiator

2011-10-03 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I have to install the package in subject, that seems a ''customized''
version of jre; i've to install it, i just install jre6 but the
(old/broken/...) application i've to run need jinit.

The package (version 1.3.1.26) seems a Installshield/PackagefortheWeb,
so i install with '/s /a /s /sms', but i've not found a way to
remove silently.

This is the first is/pftw installer that i run, so... someone can help
me? Thanks.

PS: if someone would test,
http://www.insiel.it/reposit/Sistema%20-%20Utility/jinit13126.exe

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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 184] Add an inherit attribute to package actions

2011-09-13 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.wpkg.org
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Only a little note for the changelog:

  upgrade include=include /

This is a typo. ;)

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Re: [wpkg-users] Again, hashes and download...

2011-09-13 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 by WPKG. However feel free to add it to any of your XML files, WPKG
 will simply ignore it.

Ah. The power of XML. ;-)


Thanks. ;)

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[wpkg-users] Again, hashes and download...

2011-09-12 Thread Marco Gaiarin

Seeems a release are coming. ;-)

Rainer, i've seens your download script. But, because you have just
added to download / the 'expandURL' attribute, can you simply add
also the atribute 'hash' (or whatever you like...)?!

I'm not asking to implement it in WPKG.js, only to add the attribute.


Thanks. ;)

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Re: [wpkg-users] Firefox homepage question

2011-09-08 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Peter Gough
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 Any ideas whether what I'm trying to do is possible?

Yes:

 Pref: set the value at every startup, user can alter them
 lockPref: set the value, user cannot modify
 defaultPref: set the value until user change them

Probably yyou need defaultPref ;)

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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG over multiple sites using local storage

2011-08-27 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Dave Goodbourn
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 I'm looking at how's best to setup multiple WAN locations with our WPKG 
 server.
 We currently have a WPKG server in London and are setting up an office in
 Europe. The two sites will be VPN'd together fine and the WPKG server will 
 work

...but london is in europe. O;-)

 fine over the WAN, but is there a way to ease the file transfer by having
 another server in the second office just to store the files/software to update
 to reduce the amount of traffic between the two offices? Kind of like a proxy
 server in the second office but using the same WPKG server and database as in
 London.

I manage half a dozen of ''wpkg'' sites; they are not perfectly
identical, so i propagate the wpkg ''recipes'' using csync2
(http://oss.linbit.com/csync2/) and the installer repository with a mix
of unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) or using the
'download /' tag inside the recipes.

All glued together using WPKG variables, but also the ability of samba
to ''aliases'' a server name, so \\FILE\wpkg and \\MEDIA\software are
always the wpkg installation and the installers repository.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Host match disruptive changes in 1.2?

2011-07-20 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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 I hope this will not have any unwanted side-effects. Test and
 feedback is appreciated.

Quickly tested. Seems OK:

--- wpkg-voldemort-1.1.2.log.1  2011-07-20 18:29:47.005159123 +0200
+++ wpkg-voldemort-1.2.1rc3.log.1   2011-07-20 18:29:58.035159127 +0200
@@ -1,11 +1,9 @@
 DEBUG   : Initialized temporary local log file: 
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\wpkg-logInit.log
 DEBUG   : Initializing new log file: C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\wpkg-voldemort.log
 DEBUG   : Reboot-Cmd is standard.
-DEBUG   : WPKG 1.1.2 starting...
+DEBUG   : WPKG 1.2.1-RC3 starting...
 DEBUG   : Base directory is '\\FILE\wpkg'.
 DEBUG   : Log level is 255
-DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: \\FILE\wpkg\profiles.xml
-DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: \\FILE\wpkg\profiles.xml
 DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: \\FILE\wpkg\profiles
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/profiles/assistiti.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/profiles/ced.xml
@@ -18,8 +16,7 @@
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/profiles/segreterie.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/profiles/avserver.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/profiles/wpkgtest.xml
-DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: \\FILE\wpkg\hosts.xml
-DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: \\FILE\wpkg\hosts.xml
+DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/profiles.xml
 DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: \\FILE\wpkg\hosts
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/hosts/assistiti.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/hosts/ced.xml
@@ -33,8 +30,7 @@
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/hosts/avserver.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/hosts/wpkgtest.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/hosts/multipli.xml
-DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: \\FILE\wpkg\packages.xml
-DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: \\FILE\wpkg\packages.xml
+DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/hosts.xml
 DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: \\FILE\wpkg\packages
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/kb979682.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/qmc.xml
@@ -132,10 +128,19 @@
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/inkscape.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/openclipart.xml
 DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/xming.xml
+DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages.xml
+DEBUG   : Found network service: {6703392F-0C4E-44B4-AE97-24BAB72D9374}
+DEBUG   : Reading DHCP address.
+DEBUG   : Found DHCP address: 10.5.2.240
+DEBUG   : Host operating system: microsoft windows xp professional, , sp3, 
5.1.2600
+DEBUG   : Domain Name: sanvito
+DEBUG   : Found computer group: Domain Computers
+DEBUG   : Found system locale: 410
+DEBUG   : Host properties: 
hostname='voldemort'|architecture='x86'|os='microsoft windows xp professional, 
, sp3, 5.1.2600'|ipaddresses='10.5.2.240'|domain name='sanvito'|groups='Domain 
Computers'|lcid='410'
+DEBUG   : Single-match mode. Host match finished.
 DEBUG   : Profiles applying to the current host:|ced|
 DEBUG   : Reading settings file: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
-DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
-DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
+DEBUG   : Reading XML file: C:/WINDOWS/system32/wpkg.xml
 DEBUG   : Saving current environment
 DEBUG   : Getting profiles which apply to this node.
 DEBUG   : Applying profile: ced
[...]

No one package added/removed/... exactly as in 1.1.2.


Waiting for the final 1.2.1 release. ;-)

Thanks.

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[wpkg-users] Host match disruptive changes in 1.2?

2011-07-19 Thread Marco Gaiarin

Really i've not understood the new ''host matching'' schema, or i'm
missing something, but something big.

I've switched to wpkg.js 1.2, and at the fist run on a test machine:

 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : Initialized temporary local log file: 
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\wpkg-logInit.log
 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : Initializing new log file: 
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\wpkg-voldemort.log
 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : Reboot-Cmd is standard.
 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : WPKG 1.2 starting...
 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : Base directory is '\\FILE\wpkg'.
 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : Log level is 255
 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\profiles.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\profiles.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:26, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: 
\\FILE\wpkg\profiles
 [...]
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/profiles/ced.xml
 [...]
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: \\FILE\wpkg\hosts.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\hosts.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: 
\\FILE\wpkg\hosts
 [...]
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/hosts/ced.xml
 [...]
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\packages.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\packages.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: 
\\FILE\wpkg\packages
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: 
//FILE/wpkg/packages/kb979682.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/qmc.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/7zip.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: 
//FILE/wpkg/packages/quicktime.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:27, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: 
//FILE/wpkg/packages/reader.xml
 [...]
 2011-07-19 11:54:34, DEBUG   : Found network service: 
{6703392F-0C4E-44B4-AE97-24BAB72D9374}
 2011-07-19 11:54:34, DEBUG   : Reading DHCP address.
 2011-07-19 11:54:34, DEBUG   : Found DHCP address: 10.5.2.240
 2011-07-19 11:54:34, DEBUG   : Host operating system: microsoft windows xp 
professional, , sp3, 5.1.2600
 2011-07-19 11:54:34, DEBUG   : Domain Name: sanvito
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Found computer group: Domain Computers
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Found system locale: 410
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Host properties: 
hostname='voldemort'|architecture='x86'|os='microsoft windows xp professional, 
, sp3, 5.1.2600'|ipaddresses='10.5.2.240'|domain name='sanvito'|groups='Domain 
Computers'|lcid='410'
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Single-match mode. Host match finished.
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Profiles applying to the current host:|default|
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Reading settings file: 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Saving current environment
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Getting profiles which apply to this node.
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Applying profile: default
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Adding profile dependencies of profile 
'default': 'base'
 2011-07-19 11:54:35, DEBUG   : Adding package with ID 'xptweaks-disable-csc' 
to profile packages.
 [...]

computer voldemort (really, a virtual machine, on my linux box lily; yes,
harry was my previous one ;) was on profile 'ced', but wpkg.js now
match profile 'defult'.

\\FILE\wpkg\hosts.xml contains:

host name=.+ profile-id=default /

while //FILE/wpkg/hosts/ced.xml contains:

wpkg
host name=voldemort profile-id=ced /
host name=neobe profile-id=ced /
/wpkg

What happens?! I've seen 'applyMultiple' option, but:

1) why break ''retrocompatibility''?!

2) how can i assign a single profile (applyMultiple=false) while having
 a ''default'' assigned profile?


Sorry, probably i've missed something. Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Host match disruptive changes in 1.2?

2011-07-19 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! heiko.hel...@horiba.com
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 subdirectory. In one RC, WPKG started to load hosts.xml first and the
 definitions in the hosts/ subdirectory after that.

Could be an explanation. I've reverted immediately to 1.1.2, and the
loga are now:

 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Initialized temporary local log file: 
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\wpkg-logInit.log
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Initializing new log file: 
C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\wpkg-voldemort.log
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Reboot-Cmd is standard.
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : WPKG 1.1.2 starting...
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Base directory is '\\FILE\wpkg'.
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Log level is 255
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\profiles.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\profiles.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: 
\\FILE\wpkg\profiles
 [...]
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/profiles/ced.xml
 [...]
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: \\FILE\wpkg\hosts.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\hosts.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: 
\\FILE\wpkg\hosts
 [...]
 2011-07-19 13:01:51, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/hosts/ced.xml
 [...]
 2011-07-19 13:01:52, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\packages.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:52, DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: 
\\FILE\wpkg\packages.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:52, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML files from directory: 
\\FILE\wpkg\packages
 2011-07-19 13:01:52, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: 
//FILE/wpkg/packages/kb979682.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:52, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/qmc.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:52, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: //FILE/wpkg/packages/7zip.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:52, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: 
//FILE/wpkg/packages/quicktime.xml
 2011-07-19 13:01:52, DEBUG   : Reading XML file: 
//FILE/wpkg/packages/reader.xml
 [...]
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Profiles applying to the current host:|ced|
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Reading settings file: 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Trying to read XML file: 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Successfully loaded XML file: 
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Saving current environment
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Getting profiles which apply to this node.
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Applying profile: ced
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Adding profile dependencies of profile 'ced': 
'default'
 2011-07-19 13:02:06, DEBUG   : Adding profile dependencies of profile 
'default': 'base'
 [...]

Looking at the LOG seems that both 1.2.0 and 1.1.2 load first hosts.xml and then
hosts/*.xml, but seems also to me that 1.1.2 process hosts.xml last, and 1.2.0 
first.


The hosts/_last.xml solution indeed works and can be used, but i wait some 
feedback
before implementing it.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Host match disruptive changes in 1.2?

2011-07-19 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Maybe I will not have time today; meanwhile you can still use 1.1.2
 or use the work-around.

Don't worry!


 Sorry for any inconvenience,

Don't worry! Looking at previous mesage seems also that the ''guilty''
could be also the Microsoft XML toolkit...


Many thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Replace xmlhttp download with curl/wget

2011-07-18 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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 So for me there would be only one compromise we could potentially think about:
 Ship WPKG with a download-helper script.

I ''vote'' for this compromise. ;-)

Really: someone insert the download / tag, so seems to me a bad idea
to remove it. So:

a) extend a little with a md5= and/or sha= tag, totally ignored by
 the internal WSH downloader

b) extend a little wpkg.js to support an external downloader, as an
 option (so, default use the internal)

c) build an (example) external download script; i can do some try on
 the last, but really i've little cmd.exe knowledge...


 [ Indeed, this have nothing to do with my ''server side download'' script,
using the global /noDownlaod switch on wpkg.js.
Clearly, also my script can be easily extended to use md5 hashes... ]
 Sure, and even when using commands to download files it could be
 globally disabled by simply supporting an environment variable
 NO_DOWNLOAD which makes the script to skip its task and exit with
 code 0 instead (or alternatively still verifying the checksums).

But it is a little harder to ''look at'' download rules with and
external (server side) script; so, please, keep the download tag...

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Re: [wpkg-users] Replace xmlhttp download with curl/wget

2011-07-15 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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 Is there a reason this could not be done using existing commands?
[...]
 I agree that using a special download command flag would be
 possible too. I would then prefer to call a cmd script (included in
 wplkg distribution) with all required parameters like
 downloader.cmd URL target MD5

Probably my english are very bad, but i mean exactly that.

 So this script could handle download and verification as needed
 using any tool you like and any flags suitable for your environment
 (e.g. proxy flags).

Never minded about proxies. Right.


 Well, still I am not sure where the advantage over using this script
 as one of the first commands would be.

+ WSH, as stated in this list, have poor performance and limited
 features when downloading

+ WSH, as stated again here, have no hash function, any hash algorithm
 have to be implemented in pure WSH or relay on an external script

So seems reasonable to, optionally, relay on an external script; seems
reasonable, because we can relay on an external script, to add the
'md5' field to download / tag, that the internal WSH downloaded
ignore but can be passed, optionally, to the external script.


You are right, we can just use existing install / and update /
tags to do so, but the download / tag just exist, and i think is
more cleaner to use it.


[ Indeed, this have nothing to do with my ''server side download'' script,
  using the global /noDownlaod switch on wpkg.js.
  Clearly, also my script can be easily extended to use md5 hashes... ]

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Re: [wpkg-users] Replace xmlhttp download with curl/wget

2011-07-14 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Falko Trojahn
  In chel di` si favelave...

 So we can have predefined options for e.g. wget or curl in wpkg.js,
 while preserving the possibility to use another tool.

...eg, a script (cmd suffices?!) that also check the MD5 of the file,
preventing wpkg tring to install ever an ever that corrupted installer.
;-)

This clearly needs an hash= or md5= field in download / tag.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Replace xmlhttp download with curl/wget

2011-07-14 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! heiko.hel...@horiba.com
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 Great idea! But this'll require another external tool, because hash 
 calculation
 via WSH is a world of slow.

I've speaked about a script exactly for that.

It is trivial in a CMD script to execute firstly curl/wget to download
files, check exit code and if '0', run 'md5 -c' as in:

http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/

and do and 'exit 0' if and only if both retun zero.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Strange 'null' package...

2011-07-12 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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  package profile-id=xptweaks-disable-csc /
 And here is the bug!

Ouch! I've reread the profiles.xml file dozen of times, really a dumb
mistake!

Sorry... and thanks! ;)

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[wpkg-users] Strange 'null' package...

2011-07-11 Thread Marco Gaiarin

In some newer installations wpkg say me:

 2011-07-11 16:50:15, DEBUG   : Getting profiles which apply to this node.
 2011-07-11 16:50:15, DEBUG   : Applying profile: default
 2011-07-11 16:50:15, DEBUG   : Adding profile dependencies of profile 
'default': 'base'
 2011-07-11 16:50:15, DEBUG   : Adding package with ID 'null' to profile 
packages.
 2011-07-11 16:50:15, ERROR   : Database inconsistency: Package with ID 'null' 
does not exist within the package database or the local settings file. Please 
contact your system administrator!
 2011-07-11 16:50:15, DEBUG   : Adding package with ID 'wpkg' to profile 
packages.
 2011-07-11 16:50:15, DEBUG   : Found package node 'WPKG' (wpkg) in package 
database
 [...]

My hosts contains only:

 wpkg
host name=.+ profile-id=default /
 /wpkg

and my profiles.xml:

 profiles
profile id=base
package package-id=wpkg /
package package-id=wpkg-settings /
[...]
/profile

profile id=default
depends profile-id=base /
package profile-id=xptweaks-disable-csc /
/profile
 /profiles


Package repository are common between many installations, where this
error does not throw out.

WPKG after this error continue as expected, so it is only noise.


But... what's happen? Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Synchronize with Timeserver

2011-06-29 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! simplesi
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I'm just trying out my old scripts on a Win7 pro machine and this is one of
 the problems  - I get:-

I'm using XP, so could be that 'set time' are no more supported by
seven anymore?

Consider switching to NTp, as suggested by another post.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Synchronize with Timeserver

2011-06-27 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Labamba81
  In chel di` si favelave...

 what am i doing wrong?

...the user that start wpkg.js is an administrator?

I use the same command, but on pre/post WPKGClient scripts, and works
flawlessy...

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Re: [wpkg-users] [g...@sv.lnf.it: download / examples...]

2011-06-21 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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  No one answer to this questione, someone can help me?
 Actually you could have a look at the XSD which documents it best.

Ops! i've forgot about that, sorry... anyway after this email i've
experimented a bit and i confirm that the download / tag works very
well as you explain...

Only one note (and xsd confirm me):

   download url=http:/www target=%TEMP% /

target is a filename (path) rooted by default on the specified options
'downloadDir', not a directory.


 In this case you would simply specify commands which do the download. WPKG
 executes the commands in order specified within the package XML file. So feel
 free to invoke any downloader tool like wget as the first install command.
[...]
 As you asked for a switch to globally disable WPKG downloads you might use
 simple environment variables to signal to your own script whether the command
 which executes wget would actually run or not.

Cool hint. But, probably thanks to my bad english, you have probably
misunderstood me a bit.
When i speak of ''external program/scripts'' i don't mean an external
downloader client-side (where wsh fit well), but a server-side script
that parses xml files and download files, preparing the repository of
installer.

Now i'm using csync2 (http://oss.linbit.com/csync2/) to propagate WPKG
recipes within installations, and in csync configuration i trigger an
execution of my ''download script'' for every xml file update, so i can
propagate the setup across sites without the fuss of propagation of
software repository.

For now my ''downloader script'' is a brute force hack that simply use
'xml2' to convert xml to something esier to parse with plain
grep/sed/cut.
Have surely to be rewritten in something more heavier
(perl/php/python/...) and parse XML structure, more notably to be able
to expand variables.



So i needed the ''global download disable'' switch, because, really, i
don't use wpkg to download files, but only the information within xml
files.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Disable download switch and config options

2011-05-16 Thread Marco Gaiarin

 Probably i can simply put the 'download' tag, but clients will probably
 throw errors (they have no write access on %SOFTWARE%).

More dig in this issue. I need that. ;-)

I've tried to put the 'download' tag, but as supposed they throw an
access permission error, even if really works. Look at:

1) download do their job, but throw an error:

 2011-05-16 11:22:57, DEBUG   : Install type: upgrade
 2011-05-16 11:22:57, DEBUG   : Fetched 1 upgrade command(s).
 2011-05-16 11:22:57, DEBUG   : Downloading 
'http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download/slim/downloadfile' to 
'\\MEDIA\Software\WPKG\ccsetup306_slim.exe'
 2011-05-16 11:23:13, ERROR   : Download failed: Autorizzazione negata
 2011-05-16 11:23:13, ERROR   : Failed to download all files.

2) wpkg.js anyway ignore this failure, and continue processing:

 2011-05-16 11:23:13, DEBUG   : Executing command: 
%SOFTWARE%\WPKG\ccsetup306_slim.exe /S /L=1040
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Command in installation of CCleaner returned 
exit code [0]. Success.
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Checking existence of package: CCleaner
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Saving current environment
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Reading variables from package CCleaner
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile[s]
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Getting profiles which apply to this node.
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : 3 profiles apply to this host.
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile base
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile default
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Reading variables from profile ced
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Reading variables from host voldemort
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Uninstall entry 'CCleaner' matches string 
'CCleaner'.
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Uninstall entry for CCleaner was found: test 
successful

3) ''global exit codes'' of the whole wpkg.js got bad, so the postinst
 WPKGClient script does not get executed (for example).

 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Saving XML : C:\WINDOWS\system32\wpkg.xml
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Installation of references (chained) for 
'CCleaner' (ccleaner) successfully finished.
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, INFO: Package 'CCleaner' (ccleaner): Package and all 
chained packages installed successfully.
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, INFO: Processing (upgrade) of CCleaner successful.
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, DEBUG   : Cleaning up temporary downloaded files
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, ERROR   : Message:  Autorizzazione 
negata|Description:  Autorizzazione negata|Error number: 800a0046|Stack:
undefined|Line: undefined|
 2011-05-16 11:23:15, INFO: User notification suppressed. Message: Qualcosa 
nell'aggiornamento del sistema è fallito.


This seems to me rather unoptimal:

 + if download fail, also package have to fail.

 + download step have to check if file exist, and if exist can ignore
   them or redowload; to prevent abuse, better if an hash (md5) are
   used.

 + global status i think have not to be influenced by the download
   status; i think that download failures have to be considered minor
   failures and lead to a positive global exit status.


Hope this help. Thanks.


PS: say me if i've to fire up these as bugs on the BTS, and if as a
 single bug or as multiple one.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Disable download switch and config options

2011-05-16 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Thanks for your analysis.

I'm proud to contribute to WPKG! ;-)


 I will have a look at the issues. Unfortunately the
 download feature is not very widely used and therefore I fully believe that
 there are some bugs with it.

As many things, only when used get broken and fixed. ;-)


 I personally rather think about extending the download feature slightly 
 instead
 of providing a switch to disable downloads globally but keeping them in 
 package XML.
 - WPKG might support a flag in a download tag to disable removal after
   installation.
 - WPKG might by default not re-download files which already exist on download
   target.

Ok. a doubt on the first one, see later.


 (- WPKG might verify MD5/checksum of downloaded file to check whether download
was successful; requires some more effort)

I remember vaguely that (w|c)script have no hash function
implementation internally, so it is need to use an external program or
a pure script hash implementation (that probably get sloo).

But consider that implementing a 'check if just download' function
without hash can be really dangerous... and hash check are generally
useful, not only on download.


Anyway, because was easy and i need that, i've implemented the master switch.
Patch attached.
It is my first wsh exercise, and really i've not understood if
isNoDownload() function are needed or not.

Not to master my dumb work, but i think that a master switch is still
useful. On sites where i propagate updates by the way of other mean, i
know that there's no need for download... so it make little sense to do
checks.

Generally speaking, download/nodownload for me are a ''site switch'',
not a package switch; so disable or enable checks as a package level
can be useful in theory, but i think in practice the decision to
download (and check) are taken at ''site'' level (eg, config.xml or
wpkg.js switch).


 For sure the exit code shall be dependent on the install state, not on 
 download
 state. I will verify it too.

Many thanks!

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--- wpkg.js.orig	2009-10-02 17:55:27.0 +0200
+++ wpkg.js	2011-05-16 12:11:08.663912632 +0200
@@ -316,6 +316,9 @@
 /** timeout for downloads */

 var downloadTimeout = 7200;

 

+/** global switch for download */

+var noDownload = false

+

 /** if set to true logfiles will be appended, otherwise they are overwritten */

 var logAppend = false;

 

@@ -1253,7 +1256,11 @@
 	var fso = new ActiveXObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject);

 	// delete temporary file if it already exists

 	if (fso.fileExists(target)) {

-		fso.deleteFile(target);

+		if (isNoDownload()) {

+			dinfo(Cleaning up ' + target + ' disabled by config option);

+		} else {

+			fso.deleteFile(target);

+		}

 	}

 }

 

@@ -3701,6 +3708,15 @@
 }

 

 /**

+ * Return current value of noDownload setting

+ *

+ * @return true in case download are disabled, false if it is enabled (boolean).

+ */

+function isNoDownload() {

+	return noDownload;

+}

+

+/**

  * Checks if a package is a zombie package which means that it exists within

  * the locale package database (wpkg.xml) but not on server database

  * (packages.xml)

@@ -6018,12 +6034,17 @@
 		if (timeoutValue != null  timeoutValue == ) {

 			timeout = parseInt(timeoutValue);

 		}

+

+		if (isNoDownload()) {

+			dinfo(Downloading ' + url + ' to ' + target + ' disabled by config option);

+			return true;

+		} else {

+			dinfo(Downloading ' + url + ' to ' + target + ');

+		}

 		var fso = new ActiveXObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject);

 		var stream = new ActiveXObject(ADODB.Stream);

 		var xmlHttp = new createXmlHttp();

 

-		dinfo(Downloading ' + url + ' to ' + target + ');

-

 		// open HTTP connection

 		xmlHttp.open(GET, url, true);

 		xmlHttp.setRequestHeader(User-Agent, XMLHTTP/1.0);

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[wpkg-users] Disable download switch and config options

2011-05-13 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I've to deploy wpkg on external sites, and it is complicated to simply
keep syncronized my software repository.

Seems relatively simple to produce a patch against wpkg.js that add
/nodownload switch and nodownload config option, so that download /
nodes are simply ignored.
Can i do that? It will be safely integrated in the next wpkg.js
version?


I want to do that because in this way i can prepare recipes that works
in little environment (single computers with download enabled) and in
remote mid-size LAN (where download are disabled, and i can use an
external script that download centrally needed files).

Probably i can simply put the 'download' tag, but clients will probably
throw errors (they have no write access on %SOFTWARE%).

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Re: [wpkg-users] Exit Code: 1

2011-04-27 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rowland,Andrew
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I am able to connect to the server using the domain admin account I setup, and
 map the necessary network drives.

Note that windows (the protocol, not the server) support only one
connection from one client to one server, even the ''guest'' ones, so
if you have a connection to \\SERVER\shareA with some credentials (i
insist, even guest one) and try to connect to \\SERVER\shareB with
other credentials, will fail.

For this, i abuse heavily on samba ''aliases'' ('netbios aliases'
smb.conf options) so i can connect to \\ALIAS1\shareA and the same time
to \\ALIAS2\shareB with different credentials.

If you use windows server, you have to look carefully at your boot
script and prevent such things.


Another source of headache could be that for a logged in user firs are
tried autheticated access, then guest access; while for the SYSTEM user
first are tried ''machine auth'' access (not supported by samba), then
guest access.

Relax temporarly your share access rules, and if access succeeded,
double check guest access.

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[wpkg-users] [g...@sv.lnf.it: download / examples...]

2011-01-25 Thread Marco Gaiarin

No one answer to this questione, someone can help me?

Thanks.

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There's some examples of the use of the download tag? The documentation
are really scarce, and on recipe repository seems there's no one recupe
that use it.

On detail, i'm just considering if there's a way to add the download
tags to recipes but not actually use them, leaving the download task to
an external script.

Ok, i can put comments on package with the same content, but define the
downlaod tag and (globally, on per-site) not use it it is a bit cleaner
solution, at least seems to me...


Thanks.
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Re: [wpkg-users] Using BITS to transfer files?

2011-01-06 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Malte Starostik
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 There is one requirement that might get in the way: machine authentication 
 requires kerberos, so you need an AD domain, either with a Windows 2000+ DC 
 or 
 Samba 4.  I haven't tried the latter yet, but I certainly will some day.  A 
 Windows NT (resp. Samba 3) domain will not do.

A... sorry, you say 'samba' and i meant 'samba nt-like domain',
totally forgotting that samba can be a member of an AD domain...
sorry...

Yes, i know that in AD machine account work, but i can confirm that, at
least for samba 3.2, in nt-like domain not... ;(((

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Re: [wpkg-users] Using BITS to transfer files?

2011-01-02 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Malte Starostik
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 I can't confirm this.  I'm running WPKG off a samba server and the clients 
 access the share with machine credentials just fine.  I've granted read 
 access 
 to the Domain Computers group and all is well.
 The share that the clients write their logfile to is writable by Domain 
 Computers and has the sticky bit set a client can only mess with the log 
 file(s) it created.

Really, really, REALLY interested on that!!!

Can you sand some more info? Samba version? Server and cient
configuration?

I've tried some weeks ago on debian lenny (samba 3.2.X) and i was not
able to make it work...

Thanks!

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Re: [wpkg-users] Using BITS to transfer files?

2010-12-30 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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 So please consider setting up a distributed WPKG configuration where local 
 nodes
 fetch packages from a local software repository server.

I add some consideration.

I agree, but i've also found the limit of these approach syncing a full
repository within sites that are connected with slow VPN link, instead
of using the full (local) internet speed.

Some days ago i've asked some more info on the download tag:

http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/2010-December/007134.html

(with no answer at all) exactly because the internal repository have
some limit, and the download tag also.

1) samba does not support accessing shares using machine account, so
 there's no way to setup a shared repository for the download tag, apart
a repository with ''full write from everyone'' that i don't want to
setup.

2) if i setup a local dir, clearly every wpkg invocation redownload the
 file

So i'm asking some info on download tag, because it is not clear how to
use it (at least for me) reading the wiki.

My goal would be to add to package the downoad tag, have the ability to
globally ''disable'' it in wpkg.js and insted use an external script
that parse the xml structure and download the package saving them in
the right repository.


Ok, i can use for that some ''xml comment'' in the recupes, but clearly
use the just provided download tags could be more cleaner...

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[wpkg-users] download / examples...

2010-12-22 Thread Marco Gaiarin

There's some examples of the use of the download tag? The documentation
are really scarce, and on recipe repository seems there's no one recupe
that use it.

On detail, i'm just considering if there's a way to add the download
tags to recipes but not actually use them, leaving the download task to
an external script.

Ok, i can put comments on package with the same content, but define the
downlaod tag and (globally, on per-site) not use it it is a bit cleaner
solution, at least seems to me...


Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] [BUG?] On upgrade old check condition are parsed...

2010-11-26 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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 Sure it would. For most users upgrades would be completely skipped all the 
 time
 if WPKG would first use the checks before installation and if they succeed 
 skip
 the update. Most packages simply use a check on uninstall entries which

No, i don't think at skipping upgrades, but:

if (revision changed) {
if (check condition = true) # so package installed
do_upgrade()
else# so package not installed
do_install()# using new recipe install command
}

This indeed does not cure my ''vlc problem'' (because clearly the
current check condition have to be evaluated, not the new one...) but
permit me to write (at least for me ;) simple recipes.

Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] [BUG?] On upgrade old check condition are parsed...

2010-11-26 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 This is an interesting approach.

Thanks. ;)


 the install command. Remember that WPKG would also here have to use the checks
 of the locally installed package to verify whether the package is installed.

Of course.

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[wpkg-users] [BUG?] On upgrade old check condition are parsed...

2010-11-25 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I've hit a VLC installer bug of version 1.1.0, on (un)install simply the
installer crash and delete the uninstall.exe binary.
Subsequent execution of the recipe simply stall.

So i've complicated the check condition looking also at the
uninstaller:

check type=logical condition=and
check type=uninstall condition=exists path=VLC media 
player 1.1.4 /
check type=file condition=exists 
path='%ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN\VLC\uninstall.exe' /
/check

and added to the install action some brute-force:

install cmd='%COMSPEC% /c if exist 
%ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN\VLC\uninstall.exe start  /wait 
%ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN\VLC\uninstall.exe /S _?=%ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN\VLC' 
/
install cmd='%COMSPEC% /c if not exist 
%ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN\VLC\uninstall.exe if exist 
%ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe rd /q /s %ProgramFiles%\VideoLAN' /
install cmd='reg delete 
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\VLC media player /va 
/f' /
install cmd='%SOFTWARE%\WPKG\vlc-1.1.4-win32.exe /S' /

But i've discovered that anyway the ''upgrade'' actions are executed,
even if the new check condition are false for a ''broken'' vlc
installation.

Seems to me that WPKG evaluate on upgrade the old check condition, and
not the new one (or better: evaluate on pre-action the old one, and on
post-action the new one).


I've tried to consider this a feature, but still seems to me a bug. ;-)

Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] [BUG?] On upgrade old check condition are parsed...

2010-11-25 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 When you increment the revision of the VLC package then WPKG always executes 
 the
 upgrade commands and not the install commands (install commands are always 
 only
 executed at initial installation).

Can i add a proposal to change this behaviour?

Crearly every problem have a solution or a workaround, but, at least
for me, the check condition grant that a package are installed (or not)
and so have to be evaluated on every actions (ok, probably not on
remove) ...

Ok, it is true that on every execution check condition are evaluated,
but there's corner cases, like these on VLC, that you hit after
upgrade the revision.

Also, checking condition on upgrade seems to me that does not disrupt
nothing in the WPKG logic...

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Re: [wpkg-users] post TrueCrypt again...

2010-11-22 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 The package was updated to include TrueCrypt 7.0a as well:

Ok, but you have tried an upgrade using on-disk full encryption?

I've do some test, and everytime i was forced to boot into rescue disk
and decript all the disk. ;(


For now i'm not deploying TC, exactly because seems there's no way to
upgrade it in unattended mode...

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Re: [wpkg-users] post TrueCrypt again...

2010-11-22 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Does upgrading TC with full-disk-encryption work using the manual installer? I
 wonder what it is doing differently.

For now never tried, but docs say yes...


 I might do some tests with a VM. But somebody might also ask the TC-developers
 what is the official way to perform an unattended upgrade (if possible at 
 all).

Looking at tc lists/forum seems that developers are very unresponsive
to this argument, refusing any help or comment.

;(

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Re: [wpkg-users] TrueCrypt again

2010-09-28 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Paul McGrath
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 This is a message for Marco who mailed back in May about Truecrypt.  I’ve
 cracked a silent installer for TrueCrypt 7.0a and posted instructions on the
 wpkg.org site which should be approved soon.

Unpacking and installing the program by hand, creating the service and
so on, work flawlessy.

There's no trouble at all to install TrueCrypt by WPKG, the real
trouble arise from updating it via WPKG if the box have ''on the fly''
disk encryption...

I've done some tests, and every time i got an unbootable box.
Ok, i can use the rescue CD to decrypt and then reencrypt the disk, but
it takes roughly two days of work, not feasable on a production
environment...

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[wpkg-users] [OT] Adding a spurious registry value in a key...

2010-09-23 Thread Marco Gaiarin

Probably there's no a simple yes/no answer to this question, but...

Normally in package that mangle registry i use the ''reg'' command and
i test the values on check conditions.

But sometimes values are so many that i use regedit /s and a .reg file,
loosing (roughly) the ability to using check conditions.

In this package, can i simple add a fake value (WPKGVersion?) on the
key testing that on check conditions?
Normally windows programs what do if there's a spurious value? I
suppose they ignore them, but... i prefer ask here.


Thanks.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Diagnosing WPKG remove event log error message

2010-08-30 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Christopher Yee Mon
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Package processing (remove) failed for package Test Package.
 However the package requires a reboot to complete. Rebooting.

 It just says that it failed. I'm not sure what the problem is. Is

Could be it is not a problem, but a feature... the installer exit with
a non-zero exit code signaling that a reboot are needed.

WPKG, if not correctly instructed, consider this an error condition and
so report as ''failed'' the uninstallation.


Double check your recipe and exit codes of your package...

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Re: [wpkg-users] Firefox 3.6

2010-07-23 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 To do so just do the following:
 1. create/copy %ProgramFiles%\Mozilla Firefox\defaults\pref\policies.js
 I am using policies.js with the following content:
 pref(general.config.obscure_value, 0);
 pref(general.config.filename, mozilla.cfg);

Reading around on past years i've found hint to append to
%PROGRAMFILES%\Mozilla Firefox\greprefs\all.js file the two row, i
don't know i can create %ProgramFiles%\Mozilla
Firefox\defaults\pref\policies.js or %ProgramFiles%\Mozilla
Firefox\defaults\pref\local.js

Where i can get some info? Google point me to nothing...
Or it is a general feature, eg all files on %ProgramFiles%\Mozilla
Firefox\defaults\pref\ directory are loaded in turn?


PS: a little corollary... why use defaults/prefs/local.js to load
another .js file, why not simply put all the settings on
defaults/prefs/local.js itself?

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Re: [wpkg-users] A few quick questions

2010-07-05 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Donny Brooks
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 are using 1.0.0.8-1.0.0.18 and the server is 0.9.8) and I would like
 to do a two-fold deal here: use the current wpkg installation to
 push out a new wpkg installation and point that new installation to
 a new server. Should this be possible? Would I have to remove all

...consider that upgrading wpkgclient by the way of wpkgclient is,
anyway and everityme, a ''deadlock-prone'' process. indeed.
In my experience upgrading wpkgclient by himself works, apart some
corner case that have to be handled by hand (buggy pc, ...).
Also changing wpkgclient configuration work.

I suggest you a ''two fold'' process, upgrading first the client, and
then upgrade the coniguration.

I use a ''wpkgclient'' recipe for the client and a
''wpkgclient-settings'' recipe for pushing new settings on the client;
normally not used, but... ;)))


 Also, what is the best way to use wpkg to change the administrator
 account password on windows xp and vista?

I've built an hack to change administrator password, using only
''standard'' tools.

Simply via wpkg i trigger an access to a samba share, that have guest
access enabled and via ''root preexec'' run a ''smbpasswd'' agains the
calling machine, using a perl wrapper script.
Client need to have ''file and printer sharing'' enabled and no
firewall on that part, but works, and via a simple semaphore file i can
instruct wpkg to retry if something failed.

With this approach i prevent to put the password on client-side, the
password remains only server-side.

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[wpkg-users] TrueCrypt again...

2010-05-13 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I need to deploy TrueCrypt, and this seems a non-trivial task...

1) TrueCrypt authors seems totally irresponsive to make a silent
 install or a standard (better MSI) one. Look at TC forums, some reply
are very astonishing... boh...

2) but TC installer do a very easy thing: copy .sys files and .exe
 files in respective directory and setup the service with .sys.
Docs say that and also a manual registry diff before and after the
installation confirm that.

3) so a solution like the manual service install proposed by Brian May
 seems suffice:
http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/2009-September/005713.html

I'm not very used to work woth drivers, so my fear with this approach
are on upgrade: i can simply copy over the old .sys the new one? Even
if i use full disk encryption?


Googling around, a good approach would be:

a) with a repackager, create an MSI file, for example:
http://www.doitrightconsulting.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8t=94

someone have feedback on this .msi?

b) create simply a .inf file and install the driver via DPInst:

http://www.msigeek.com/285/creating-installation-for-device-driver-applications-using-dpinst

but the method proposed (install manually and get .inf file from
%WINDOR%\inf\ folder) does not work because again the TC installer
install the driver manually.


Someone have some experience and tools on building a .inf file so i can
use DPInst to install/upgrade TC, or can point me to relevant links?
I've found:
http://www.appdeploy.com/messageboards/tm.asp?m=4596

but the second link seems dead...

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Re: [wpkg-users] Excluding particular OS and architecture types from patch application

2010-04-29 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
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 It's nice to ask giving the full power of unlimited flexibility to the user 
 but...
[...]
 WPKG is already very flexible and powerful due to the fact that it allows you 
 to
 execute any command and any script/tool in order to reach your goal, whatever 
 it
 might be.

I perfectly agree with you.

For that i think that add to WPKG ''os detection code'' is the wrong way,
but here we are speaking about ''adding conditional execution/parsing''
of some XML node, that i think is more general and more WPKG-way... ;)


 I have no clue where this reluctance from writing scripts is coming from. Sure

Clearly, xenophobia. ;-)

I think that there's no need to ask why there's so much programming
languages...

In CMD i particulary hate to write exit codes conditions, while using ''one
install / line per command'' approach it is very easy.


 So for now I repeat again that I am thinking about OS version and architecture
 dependencies but for now please accept that you can do exactly the same using
 some simple CMD scripts. If you don't like it just don't use it, everyone else
 just uses the possibilities available and reaches the goal with low effort.

I'm deeply tighted to an 'XPsp3 32bit' environment and i will keep here
for at least two yers... so for me no problem at all. ;)

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Re: [wpkg-users] Excluding particular OS and architecture types from patch application

2010-04-28 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Lukasz Zalewski
  In chel di` si favelave...

 P.S. In addition (sorry for being so cheeky) it would be nice to have  
 arch= in install, upgrade and remove install arch=x86|AMD64. I  
 know one can use if %PROCESDSOR_ARCHITECTURE% == x86 but it would  
 remove some of the duplicated code and reduce possibility of a mistake  

If this is a contest i definitely vote for a os='' and arch='' tag in
nodes (package, install|upgrade|remove, ...).

I'm not a WSH programmer (i'm not a programmer at all ;), but seems to
me that can be easily implemented without disrupt all the WPKG code (a
simple condition before loading the node...).

I think that the source of check could be some environment variable
(%WPKG_OS% and %WPKG_ARCH%?) that can be calculated on pre-script,
without adding to WPKG code the 'os detection' code that can clearly be
a mess.

If variables are not defined, simply mean 'all'.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Excluding particular OS and architecture types from patch application

2010-04-28 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Rainer Meier
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I will definitely think about such a feature - or something similar. But I 
 will
 not include such a thing on short notice.

Good!


 Even the logic behind quite simple. Instead of defining a profile which 
 assigns
 some packages only to specific OS or OS versions it just assigns the package 
 to
 the profile - no matter if the machines in this profile run OS x or OS y. The
[...]
 In addition I thin it's wrong to define in the package definition whether the
 package should be applied to the node. I would rather prefer to define OS
 dependency in profile specification. So one could specify that a specific
 package is applied to the profile only if OS/Version matches.

I think both.

As your script, could be that i can define a package that do different
things (actions, checks, ...) for different install.
But also i can define different package for different OS.

Third, could be that i can define the same package (name) but with two
or more specification for two or more OS. But i think that this will
work good only in conjunction with some ''metapackage'' definition ala
dpkg/rpm...

The base rule are: leave to recipe writer the power: clearly if a
package is strictly os or arch tagged and cited on another package as
dependencies, wpkg will complain that package deps was not satisfiable.
But this does not brake WPKG logic nor add a real layer of complexity
in debugging recipe writing...


 Exposing some variables like WPKG_OS or WPKG_ARCH to the app/script run by 
 WPKG
 would probably simplify script-writing slightly. But honestly I don't see much
 simplification for my scripts whether I have to write

You're right, indeed there's no a big difference between yor script and
this.

But i consider XML a more ''self documenting'' format, and really i
hate CMD scripting that turn in really unreadable pieces of code.

Apart that in XML there's a finer error handling, put every command in
a install / statement...


Clerarly, it's my opinion. ;-)

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Re: [wpkg-users] The network path was not found. - Windows 7, wireless connection.

2010-03-12 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Gregory Orange
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Our Windows XP and RADIUS-based wireless network only connects once a  
 user is logged in, that is, as per Kevin's description.

I've configured for some portable system (XPsp3) machine account
authentication (using freeradius and winbindd), but still with current
client (1.2.1) sometimes wpkg run, sometimes no.

I've never considered this a problem, my wireless setup is an options
for 'wired' clients, not the only connection method.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Firefox Proxy - unlocked

2010-03-05 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Malte Starostik
  In chel di` si favelave...

Many thanks for the helpful hints!

Only one more question: can you point to some relevant link about this?
Past year i've digged about thiese things, finding only partial, old
and mangle information here and there...

Thanks.

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[wpkg-users] [OT] Updates info bullettin?

2010-03-05 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I'm curious.

Apart subscribing to half a dozen of security lists, apart subscribing
to every vendor/sourceforge/... announcement mailing lists, there's a
service out there that 'collect and redistribute' info about updates of
software?

I'm now used to the 'friday evening web tour', but if there's another
way...

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Re: [wpkg-users] Firefox Proxy - unlocked

2010-03-05 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Malte Starostik
  In chel di` si favelave...

 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.9.2/source/dom/base/nsGlobalWindow.cpp#4463
 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.9.2/source/content/base/src/nsContentUtils.cpp#2594
 http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla1.9.2/source/modules/libpref/src/nsPrefBranch.cpp#228

Oh, past to old days when man was man and they don't read
documentation, they read sources... ;-)))

Tnx.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Firefox Proxy - unlocked

2010-03-04 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Justin Brinegar
  In chel di` si favelave...

 there are some that will not default.  Specifically, I encountered  
 issues with defaulting the homepage in Firefox 3.5.  In Thunderbird (and  

I'm still using 3.0, but i simply use:

pref(browser.startup.homepage, http://www.sv.lnf.it/;);
pref(browser.startup.page, 1);

and works...


 and default preferences.  You can do some pretty cool things with it in  
 Thunderbird, especially if your organization uses a single-sign on  
 technology and has an LDAP server.

Ahem, can you give some feedback? ;-)

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Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working

2010-02-16 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski
  In chel di` si favelave...

 Can you try that and report if it behaves better for you?

Now if i start/stop the service manually i got:

 Tipo evento:   Errore
 Origine evento:WpkgService
 Categoria evento:  Nessuno
 ID evento: 1
 Data:  16/02/2010
 Ora:   10.25.51
 Utente:N/D
 Computer:  VOLDEMORT
 Descrizione:   ServiceStart-SERVICE_RUNNING

right after 'initializin socket...'

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Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working

2010-02-15 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski
  In chel di` si favelave...

 http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.12/

Tried, xp sp3 in a virtualbox guest.

Effectively the service start, stop and restart flawlessy, no more
lockup or errors.

But wpkg does not start: everytime i catch a:

 Tipo evento:   Errore
 Origine evento: WpkgService
 Categoria evento: Nessuno
 ID evento: 1
 Data:  15/02/2010
 Ora:   18.29.43
 Utente:N/D
 Computer:  VOLDEMORT
 Descrizione:   Script pre action execution: failure. Exit code: 2

(file not found?).


Clearly file are here, wpkg settings are unchanged.


Wait a moment... g... seems that on *real* shutdown all works as
expected, simply restarting the service manually throw this error.

Boh.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Event Log format

2009-11-20 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Charles Gargent
  In chel di` si favelave...

 fyi the tool I use to export the eventlogs is Logparser

I don't know this tools, but i suggest you to use some eventlog to
syslog tools like:

http://ntsyslog.sourceforge.net/
(simple syslog on udp)

http://www.intersectalliance.com/projects/index.html
(don't be confused by the port number, it is simply syslog on
TCP on a nonstandard port ;)

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Re: [wpkg-users] Computer account

2009-11-20 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Lukasz Zalewski
  In chel di` si favelave...

 bit tho). I have seen a message posted to samba mailing list regarding  
 machine authentication but have not seen any responses yet. If I'm wrong  
 please do let me know as this is very cool feature that will allow  
 writing logs to a network share in a sane way.

I can confirm that basic machine authentication works: i have setup
radius server in a manner that wireless clients authenticate with
machine account.
But i can confirm also that does not work for network shares, and also
that there's no answer in samba list.

I will try to ask again in samba-it mainling lists, but really seems
that this is a problem that does not mind to samba developers...


Someone have some direct contact with some samba developer?

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[wpkg-users] Forcing a second reboot...

2009-10-29 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I'm moving in my organization from symantec corporate edition to
kaspersky as AV solution.

I'm doing some tests with WPKG, disinstalling old AV and installing new
one.
I'm using WPKG 'install on shutdown'.

I've done some test, and:

 - symantec are correctly removed
 - then, kaspersky network client got installed
 - then kaspersky AV fail saying 'reboot needed before installing'

after that, machine shut down/reboot, but at next startup... the
machine are without AV until next shutdown. I cannot keep machines an
entire day without AV... ;(((

I've tried to add to 'network agent' installation a row like:

install cmd='schtasks /create /tn KNA forced reboot /sc ONSTART /ru 
SYSTEM /tr shutdown /r /t 5 /f' /

but does not work, probably because the 'shutdown' executed on startup
are ignored (the scheduled task are correctly installed and work runned
by hand).


How can i force a reboot at next boot? ONLOGON will suffice?

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Re: [wpkg-users] Amending package deployment after 50% of workstations done

2009-10-28 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! simplesi
  In chel di` si favelave...

 I recently made up a package to deploy Scratch 1.4.

I use the .exe, with:

package
id=scratch
name=Scratch
revision=14001
reboot=false
priority=50
depends package-id=jre/

check type=uninstall condition=exists path=Scratch /

install cmd='%SOFTWARE%\WPKG\ScratchInstaller1.4.exe /S' /
install cmd='%WPKGROOT%\tools\shortcut 
/f:%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Desktop\Scratch.lnk /a:c 
/t:%ProgramFiles%\Scratch\Scratch.exe 
/p:\%ProgramFiles%\Scratch\Scratch.image\' /
upgrade cmd='%SOFTWARE%\WPKG\ScratchInstaller1.4.exe /S' /
upgrade cmd='%WPKGROOT%\tools\shortcut 
/f:%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Desktop\Scratch.lnk /a:c 
/t:%ProgramFiles%\Scratch\Scratch.exe 
/p:\%ProgramFiles%\Scratch\Scratch.image\' /
remove cmd='cmd /c del /f /q %ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Desktop\Scratch.lnk' 
/
remove cmd='cmd /c start  /wait 
%ProgramFiles%\Scratch\uninstall.exe /S _?=%ProgramFiles%\Scratch' /
/package


I use 'shortcut' to create the... shortcut insted of copy it, and i use
'start /wait' and the uninstaller with the _? options to prevent fork


 Have I got my logic right or would I be better off leaving original package
 alone and adding a new dependant package that just does the shortcut
 copying?

I think you're right, expecially considering that .msi are very
efficient on reinstallation, normally they does nothing so there will
be minimal delay/load.

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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Client 1.3.9 - problem

2009-10-08 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Matthias Röttger
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 Could someone help me with that issue?

Seems you have hit 'bug 176':

http://bugzilla.wpkg.org/show_bug.cgi?id=176
http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/2009-October/005829.html

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[wpkg-users] Strangeness on WPKGClient...

2009-10-08 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I've enabled the 'logo' feature on wpkg client.

+ i've setup the client on my box, using as image path:

%ProgramFiles%\wpkg\emfvg.jpg

 tested, works flawlessy.

+ exported settings, verifying that in settings.xml the path was not
 mangled, and was not:

logon-message-logo-picture%ProgramFiles%\wpkg\emfvg.jpg/logon-message-logo-picture

+ deploy the new settings on some machines (via --settingsfile), and...
 logo does not display.


I've also open wpkginst.exe on deployed machines, and all seems normal,
the path are %ProgramFiles%\wpkg\emfvg.jpg, but logo does not display.
So i've tried to substitute on client '%ProgramFiles%\wpkg\emfvg.jpg' with
C:\Programmi\wpkg\emfvg.jpg

 and still does not display.


Clearly the image file are there.


Boh...

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Re: [wpkg-users] Bug 176...

2009-10-07 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Marco Gaiarin
  In chel di` si favelave...

  Installing at shutdown, when not connected to a network, just exits with a 
  wpkg.js file not found error.
 I will do some test tomorrow, but also with 'offline mode' disabled, i
 got the same error.

Ok, probably i've maked some mistakes, i can confirm that with 'install
at shutdown', with offline mode disabled, it works.
I confirm also that installing at shutdown, seems that 'offline mode'
are pretty useless.

Some note:

1) still if i manually stop or restart wpkg service, the service does
 not cleanly shut off, i have to kill it.

2) if wpkg service are killed (or die) i have to wait all the 'max wait
 time' (as happens on startup, indeed); Here (in shutdown) we can check
this, i hope directly in WPKClient, but we can also add this to -pre
script, for example:
http://www.hiteksoftware.com/knowledge/email/045.htm

3) (cosmetic) if it is true that offline mode does not make sense for
 execute on shutdown, i think it is better to move the entire tabs under
the execution mode, or at least make it 'grey' when on shutdown are
selected.
Also, the 'stop service when all done' check i think can be safely
moved in this tab, this really does not make sense on shutdown.


I hope i was useful, i seek some feedback.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Bug 176...

2009-10-07 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Pendl Stefan
  In chel di` si favelave...

 The pre-shutdown-delay setting of a service is only taken into account at 
 shutdown, if you manually stop the service, this is not recognized by the 
 service control mechanism.
 I think it should be possible to overcome this problem, since the wuauclt 
 service has a pre-shutdown-delay set too, but you can successfully stop the 
 automatic update service manually.

I'm speaking about 'logon delay' feature of WPKG...


  2) if wpkg service are killed (or die) i have to wait all the
  'max wait
   time' (as happens on startup, indeed); Here (in shutdown) we
  can check
  this, i hope directly in WPKClient, but we can also add this to -pre
  script, for example:
http://www.hiteksoftware.com/knowledge/email/045.htm


Clearly i'm completely wrong. The 'logon/logoff delay' feature are done
by the way of wpkgMessage.exe, and the fact that WPKGServ.exe service
helper does not run imply that pre, wpkg.js and post script cannot be
run.

Indeed in wpkgMessage.exe have to be added some logic that check for
the status of WPKGServ.exe service/process, and if died or stalled,
exit.


I hope now i was clear.


PS: at least the fact that everytime i try to stop WPKGServ service
 they go in a spurious state and i have to manually kill it can be
fixed? It is very annoying...

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Re: [wpkg-users] Definition change/Version #

2009-10-06 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Sean Kennedy
  In chel di` si favelave...

 As I build packages and deploy them, I've discovered errors within them.  
 Naturally, I fix these errors, but if wpkg doesn't detect a version status
 change ( either through the revision # on the package, nor it's internal 
 checks
 ), it doesn't copy the new package definition to it's local cache.  Sitting
 here it occurs to me that I might just be able to increment the revision 
 number
 on the package, and it copies the new package information to it's local cache.
  If there are no upgrade commands, will the only action taken be that of wpkg
 updating it's local cache of the package definition?  

You can increment the revision and the package definition will be
updated in the local 'db' (wpkg.xml).

Clearly also the package itself get updated: some package are too
small that does not fuss, most of the .msi installer are smart and a
second installation over the current substantially does nothing.
But other installer are big and dumb, and force big network transfers
and cpu time for installation.


Probably the 'revision' can be splitted in two part, one that upgrade
the package, one that upgrade only the recipes.
But effectively you can remove the 'upgrade' part temporarly and
increment the revision.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Bug 176...

2009-10-06 Thread Marco Gaiarin
Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski
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 Some feedback on bug 176?
 Sorry, no fix yet.

...there's something i can do?

I've here some spare box and some very little spare time, say me if i
can help.

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