Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software

2012-11-14 Thread Peter Gough
I've got the Spiceworks/wpkg combo and it's a great solution but the OP
said he didn't have Windows server and AD available so Spiceworks wouldn't
be an option.


On 14 November 2012 18:27, Paul McGrath j.p.mcgr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:

 This is our combination too.  We utilise an Exchange mailbox and AD
 integration in Spiceworks.

 Paul

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 The Best is http://www.spiceworks.com/ !  It has got many features to
 inventory and plus as bonus –embedded  IT HelpDesk 

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 WPKG+SpiceWorks is Molotov`s cocktail ! 

 I had my way - I would have supplied in the kit.

 Alexey

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 Hi,

 You can use OCSinventory and GLPI :

 http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/en/
 http://www.glpi-project.org/spip.php?lang=en

Yves

 Le 13/11/2012 20:35, Chris a écrit :

 Dear all,

 can you recommend any inventory software? I'd like to track software,
 installed by wpkg and installed manually. It should be Opensource and
 Samba-compatible, i.e. no Active Directory and no Windows Server.

 Chris
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Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software

2012-11-14 Thread Peter Gough
OP = original poster:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=op

Sorry - thought this was pretty common usage. Anyway, the original poster
said they didn't have a Windows server. To the best of my knowledge
Spiceworks only runs on Windows.


On 14 November 2012 22:28, Paul McGrath j.p.mcgr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:

 Hi Peter,

   The OP (?).  I would expect on your network that you would have a
 central authenticating database.  If you do not have a Windows Active
 Directory then you should at least have a Mac or Linux Open Directory.
 Spiceworks can be configured to use this instead allowing users to easily
 logon or for the spiceworks system to translate the senders email address
 into user info from the Directory.


 http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/33838-help-desk-authentication-and-openldap
 

 Paul

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 *From:* Peter Gough [mailto:pmgo...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* 14 November 2012 11:55
 *To:* Paul McGrath
 *Cc:* wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org

 *Subject:* Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software

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 I've got the Spiceworks/wpkg combo and it's a great solution but the OP
 said he didn't have Windows server and AD available so Spiceworks wouldn't
 be an option.

 ** **

 On 14 November 2012 18:27, Paul McGrath j.p.mcgr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote:**
 **

 This is our combination too.  We utilise an Exchange mailbox and AD
 integration in Spiceworks.

 Paul

  

 *From:* wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org [mailto:
 wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org] *On Behalf Of *? ???
 ??
 *Sent:* 14 November 2012 08:18


 *To:* wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
 *Subject:* Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software

  

 The Best is http://www.spiceworks.com/ !  It has got many features to
 inventory and plus as bonus –embedded  IT HelpDesk 

  

 WPKG+SpiceWorks is Molotov`s cocktail ! 

 I had my way - I would have supplied in the kit.

 Alexey

  

 *From:* wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org [
 mailto:wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.orgwpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Yves Antigny
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:04 AM
 *To:* wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
 *Subject:* Re: [wpkg-users] Inventory software

  

 Hi,

 You can use OCSinventory and GLPI :

 http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/en/
 http://www.glpi-project.org/spip.php?lang=en

Yves

 Le 13/11/2012 20:35, Chris a écrit :

 Dear all,

 can you recommend any inventory software? I'd like to track software,
 installed by wpkg and installed manually. It should be Opensource and
 Samba-compatible, i.e. no Active Directory and no Windows Server.

 Chris
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Re: [wpkg-users] Notifications of Flash and Java updates

2012-10-24 Thread Peter Gough
I've got a single machine setup at home with Secunia PSI (
http://secunia.com/). I get notified when there are updates available then
use this as a prompt to start testing at work.

It isn't perfect but it (mostly) does the job.

On 24 October 2012 07:26, John Danks john.da...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can follow the RSS feed here for Flash, Reader, etc:
 http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/


 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Lonney lon...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anyone know of a service or system that will send an email to
 notify of when new versions of Flash and Java available ?



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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG Error: Script execution: failure. Exit code: 2

2012-05-30 Thread Peter Gough
Depending on your OS there are xml checkers available. I do most of my wpkg
updates using Notepad++ which has a plugin available for this purpose.
Essentially if you try to save a malformed xml file it tells you it has an
error and gives you a line number to check.

HTH,

Peter

On 30 May 2012 15:16, Charlie Page cp...@corebizserv.com wrote:

 I start wpkg and it immediately ends.  So I got a log to output and it is
 as follows:
 2012-05-30 00:58:42 - Script action execution done.
 2012-05-30 00:58:42 - Script execution: failure. Exit code: 2
 2012-05-30 00:58:42 - Working done. Perform cleanup.
 2012-05-30 00:58:42 - Cleanup done.


 This is the log from the WPKG Client-Misc. Settings-Debug checked yes.
 I am pretty sure this is because one of my files has an xml error.  Is
 there a way to get the debug log to show more information?  I tried to put
 /verbose in the WPKG Client-Path, Users-WPKG parameters box but that
 didn't seem to help.

 Thanks,
 Charlie
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Re: [wpkg-users] Firefox homepage question

2011-09-08 Thread Peter Gough
Thanks. That's the missing bit of info I'd overlooked.

Peter

On 8 September 2011 17:31, Marco Gaiarin g...@sv.lnf.it wrote:

 Mandi! Peter Gough
  In chel di` si favelave...

  Any ideas whether what I'm trying to do is possible?

 Yes:

  Pref: set the value at every startup, user can alter them
  lockPref: set the value, user cannot modify
  defaultPref: set the value until user change them

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[wpkg-users] Firefox homepage question

2011-09-07 Thread Peter Gough
Hi,

I'm in the process of deploying Firefox to our users. I'd like to initially
set their homepage to our organization's homepage but allow them to change
this as they wish.

When I follow the instructions here (
http://wpkg.org/Firefox#Setting_and_Locking_Preferences) and amend the
mozilla.cfg file then the homepage is set as expected. I changed a line in
this file from lockPref... to pref... and was hoping that this would allow
the users to set their homepage but instead the option to set the homepage
is no longer greyed-out but when they change it their change is overwritten
the next time Firefox is restarted.

To test this I've tried granting Full control over the mozilla.cfg file (and
subsequently the entire application folder) but it appears that their
changes are written to their local profile prefs rather than the one
specified in defaults\pref\profile.js which is used at startup.

Any ideas whether what I'm trying to do is possible?

Thanks,

Peter
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Re: [wpkg-users] Deploying System in Real-Time

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Gough
That's also the way I read it.

Can you check that the account you're using for the updates has
permissions (RWXD) to write the file in %windir%\system32.



On 01/06/2011, at 6:07 AM, Rainer Meier r.me...@wpkg.org wrote:

 Hi Kevin,

 On 31.05.2011 20:05, k.ijs...@eqaz.nl wrote:
 Did you gave the file 777 rights?

 Else it can't be edited..

 I think he's not talking about server-side XML (wpkg.js does not update any of
 them unless you have a script/package which just copies it from local to a
 share). So I was assuming that he refers to the local wpkg.xml file - which
 would also explain why he's seeing the same updates on each run.

 Moreover I don't think he's using Linux/Samba server; but I am not sure as he
 did not specify it.

 br,
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Re: [wpkg-users] Deploying System in Real-Time

2011-05-31 Thread Peter Gough
When you run the script locally are you using the same account as you're
using with psexec? Also might be worth taking a look at the event viewer
(Start  Run  eventvwr.msc) and checking for errors. I suspect that your
package install isn't completing correctly - perhaps the checks fail - which
would mean the wpkg.xml wouldn't be updated.

The other thing I do for troubleshooting is to open a command prompt on a
problem machine (make sure you run it as Administrator) and run
'\\wpkg-server\wpkg-share\wpkg.js /synchronize', i.e. without the /nonotify
and /quiet switches. This should give you a bit more info in terms of
tracking down what's happening with your install.

To answer your final question my XP clients have the wpkg-client installed
and query the server at startup. My Win7 clients also query at startup but
this is done with a simple group policy-managed script. The only
disadvantage is that Win7 users don't get a nice dialog box telling them
what's going on but the advantages of managed software deployment certainly
make that inconvenience worthwhile.

Peter

On 1 June 2011 07:30, Dave Goodbourn dave.goodbo...@u-fx.co.uk wrote:

 Hi all,

 I'm not at work at the moment, but a bit more info for you. The client is a
 Win 7 x64 and I'm testing the commands from an XP SP3 x86. I'm running with
 an administrators account.

 Another thing I've noticed is that if I run the cscript locally it works
 just great, but if I just start the service it can sometimes again fail to
 update the wpkg.xml file. I'm going to try a different software installation
 as I'm not 100% sure the VLC script I'm testing with works 100% correctly.
 I'll do some more testing tomorrow when I'm back in work and try and narrow
 down where I'm going wrong!!!

 BTW, how does everyone else deploy software with WPKG? Push or Pull?

 Cheers,
 D.


 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Peter Gough pmgo...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's also the way I read it.

 Can you check that the account you're using for the updates has
 permissions (RWXD) to write the file in %windir%\system32.



 On 01/06/2011, at 6:07 AM, Rainer Meier r.me...@wpkg.org wrote:

  Hi Kevin,
 
  On 31.05.2011 20:05, k.ijs...@eqaz.nl wrote:
  Did you gave the file 777 rights?
 
  Else it can't be edited..
 
  I think he's not talking about server-side XML (wpkg.js does not update
 any of
  them unless you have a script/package which just copies it from local to
 a
  share). So I was assuming that he refers to the local wpkg.xml file -
 which
  would also explain why he's seeing the same updates on each run.
 
  Moreover I don't think he's using Linux/Samba server; but I am not sure
 as he
  did not specify it.
 
  br,
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Re: [wpkg-users] uninstall software using WPKG

2011-05-09 Thread Peter Gough
The way mine is setup is that each package has its own .xml file in the
packages folder (there's a bit about this here: http://wpkg.org/Packages.xml
).

So, for example, I would create a file called hardcopy.xml to manage this
package. As long as you specify the package id and this matches the name of
the package id in profiles.xml then you can add and remove this package from
individual hosts (or groups of hosts using wildcards/pattern matching) in
your hosts.xml file.

It sounds a bit complex but once you get your head around it you'll find
it's really flexible.

On 9 May 2011 23:56, Ninnig, Alexander alexander.nin...@rechnungshof.rlp.de
 wrote:

 Hi folks,

 sorry, I just don't get it:

 I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall software using WPKG.

 As far as I get it (I am a newbie):
 there's
 * hosts.xml - meaning: which profile is assigned to which computer
 * profiles.xml - meaning: which softwarepackages are assigned to which
 profile
 * packages.xml - meaning: all the actions (line install, upgrade, remove
 plus checks)
 So far, so good.

 The point is: in those packaging.xml-files, there are three actions
 described: install, upgrade, remove. How does the computer know, which
 action to take? I'm kinda looking for a assignment like: uninstall
 package firefox in profile custom, which is assigned to host pc001

 So far, I deployed hardcopy, which worked fine. Packages.xml contains:
 install cmd='%SOFTWARE%\installers\hc.exe /InstallSilent
 /InstallCommonGroup /InstallDir=%Programfiles%\Hardcopy' /
 upgrade cmd='%WINDIR%\SwSetupuexe
 %PROGRAMFILES%\Hardcopy\hardcopy.del /Silent' /
 upgrade cmd='%SOFTWARE%\installers\hc.exe /InstallSilent
 /InstallCommonGroup /InstallDir=%Programfiles%\Hardcopy' /
 remove cmd='%WINDIR%\SwSetupuexe %PROGRAMFILES%\Hardcopy\hardcopy.del
 /Silent' /
 As I said, installation worked fine. What would I have to do to
 uninstall Hardcopy? How do I tell the clients to use the remove-cmd?


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Re: [wpkg-users] Windows 7 64 bit client 1.3.9-x64.msi WPKG Service will not start

2011-04-11 Thread Peter Gough
Hi,

Unfortunately I've not been able to get this working for my Win7 clients.

Instead I'm currently running a simple login script that checks the OS. If
it returns a Win7 machine then it runs the following command and exits:

cscript \\server\wpkg\wpkg.js /synchronize /quiet

If it returns an XP client then it checks to see if the WPKG client is
already installed, runs the client install if it isn't and then exits.

I've played around a bit with wpkg-gp but I'm not yet confident that it's
stable enough to introduce into production.

Peter

On 11/04/2011, at 4:43 PM, Andrew Spiers aspi...@vpac.org wrote:

Following the instructions at http://wpkg.org/WPKG_QUICK_INSTALL trying to
connect to an existing wpkg installation; the installation goes
successfully, and the test button works after using the fqdn of the server.

The Service will not start. I am getting error 1067: the service terminated
unexpectedly. The error message from the application log follows.

Has anyone been able to get WPKG to work under 64 bit Windows 7? What else
should I be trying?

Also, we run a Samba 3 NTLM Domain. Does this mean that WPKG-GP will not
work on our Win 7 machines?


APPLICATION LOG:


Faulting application name: WPKGSrv.exe, version: 1.0.0.13, time stamp:
0x497b3743
Faulting module name: WPKGSrv.exe, version: 1.0.0.13, time stamp: 0x497b3743
Exception code: 0xc005
Fault offset: 0xc39a
Faulting process id: 0xe68
Faulting application start time: 0x01cbf8117f4447a8
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files\wpkg\WPKGSrv.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Program Files\wpkg\WPKGSrv.exe

- Event xmlns=http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event;
- System
 Provider Name=Application Error /
 EventID Qualifiers=01000/EventID
 Level2/Level
 Task100/Task
 Keywords0x80/Keywords
 TimeCreated SystemTime=2011-04-11T06:27:14.0Z /
 EventRecordID11037/EventRecordID
 ChannelApplication/Channel
 ComputerTC-SUM-04.VPAC/Computer
 Security /
 /System
- EventData
 DataWPKGSrv.exe/Data
 Data1.0.0.13/Data
 Data497b3743/Data
 DataWPKGSrv.exe/Data
 Data1.0.0.13/Data
 Data497b3743/Data
 Datac005/Data
 Datac39a/Data
 Datae68/Data
 Data01cbf8117f4447a8/Data
 DataC:\Program Files\wpkg\WPKGSrv.exe/Data
 DataC:\Program Files\wpkg\WPKGSrv.exe/Data
 Databcf59549-6404-11e0-9826-6c626d0dc32c/Data
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Re: [wpkg-users] Windows XP SP3

2010-10-27 Thread Peter Gough
Alexey,

I'm not too sure what you're asking here. Are you having problems deploying
this package?

Regards,

Peter

On 27 October 2010 18:02, Alexey alexey.dubov...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, All!

 After news about the support ended of XP SP2 (
 http://support.microsoft.com/gp/windowsxpsp2)  we decide install SP3 all
 over around.
 There is ( http://wpkg.org/Windows_XP_SP3 )  ready package for SP3
 install.  How can I solve this task?

 with regards,
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Re: [wpkg-users] Windows XP SP3

2010-10-27 Thread Peter Gough
If you're using the wpkg client then you can set this up so the users see a
message indicating that wpkg is working (http://wpkg.org/Screenshots).

It doesn't really work as a progress bar but it is a visual reminder for
them not to restart the machine.

Is this not working for you?

On 27 October 2010 19:44, Alexey alexey.dubov...@gmail.com wrote:

 :))
 Oh! I lost some text here.  Due to the fact that the install SP3 on some
 computers is more than 1,5 hours to the user to display Please wait for the
 screen. I want show WaitScreen only on the PC, where SP3 will be
 installed.



 2010/10/27 Peter Gough pmgo...@gmail.com

 Alexey,

 I'm not too sure what you're asking here. Are you having problems
 deploying this package?

 Regards,

 Peter

   On 27 October 2010 18:02, Alexey alexey.dubov...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi, All!

 After news about the support ended of XP SP2 (
 http://support.microsoft.com/gp/windowsxpsp2)  we decide install SP3 all
 over around.
 There is ( http://wpkg.org/Windows_XP_SP3 )  ready package for SP3
 install.  How can I solve this task?

 with regards,
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Re: [wpkg-users] Need help having WPKG set filesystem permissions before and after running script

2010-09-15 Thread Peter Gough
You could use cacls in a batch file for installation. Hopefully some of the
examples in existing packages should point you in the right direction:

http://wpkg.org/index.php?title=Special:Searchsearch=caclsgo=Go

On 16 September 2010 05:11, Todd Blum t...@toddblum.org wrote:

 Hello,

I am using WPKG for the first time.  I have WPKG and wpkgexpress
 running on XMPP on a Windows XP workstation in a Windows domain environment.

I have been updating my company's .NET application with a script
 that runs cwrsync on the Program Files directory on the user's workstations,
 but I've been getting in to some trouble because cwrsync leaves the
 ownership and permissions of the files different than it finds them.  I was
 hoping to use WPKG to first set ownership and permissions on the program's
 Program Files directory, perform the cwrsync script, then set the ownership
 and permissions again on the Program Files directory. I'm not readily seeing
 a package example for changing filesystem permissions--does anyone know the
 best way to perform these tasks?

I chose rsync as the update model because the program doesn't have
 to be reinstalled with each update, and I thought it would minimize
 bandwidth usage (the rsync server is centralized and there are many
 disparate networks).

 Thanks for your help,

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Re: [wpkg-users] A few quick questions

2010-07-02 Thread Peter Gough
If you're running Active Directory then you might want to check out Group
Policy Preferences. Far and away the easiest way to manage local accounts
(including resetting local user passwords). It relies on your workstations
having the Group Policy Preference Extensions installed and you'll need at
least one Vista/WIndows 7 or Server 2008 machine to manage the new
extensions.

Lots more info here:

http://www.gpoguy.com/Portals/0/Group%20Policy%20Preferences%20Overview.pdf

On 2 July 2010 16:13, heiko.hel...@horiba.com wrote:

  Also, what is the best way to use wpkg to change the administrator
  account password on windows xp and vista?

 I don't know the best way - i used a variant of a vbscript Dr.Google found
 for me. If you have powershell installed on XP I'd suggest you use that
 instead - it's much more readable. But VBScript has the advantage on being
 installed on every supported PC-Windows by default.

 It also activates the administrator and disabled expiration. Note that this
 snippet only works on Windows-Versions where the admin-user is called
 Administrator. If you use French, for example, you have to use
 'Administrateur':

 dim PW
 PW = myPassword
 Const ADS_UF_DONT_EXPIRE_PASSWD = h1
 dim objUser, objUserFlags, objPasswordExpirationFlag
 set objUser = GetObject(WinNT://./Administrator)
 objUser.AccountDisabled = false
 objUserFlags = objUser.Get(UserFlags)
 objPasswordExpirationFlag = objUserFlags OR ADS_UF_DONT_EXPIRE_PASSWD
 objUser.Put userFlags, objPasswordExpirationFlag

 objUser.SetPassword PW
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Re: [wpkg-users] HKEY_CURRENT_USER

2010-04-06 Thread Peter Gough
Group Policy Preferences will do this if you've got Active Directory up and
running.

Lots of info here:

http://www.gpoguy.com/Portals/0/Group%20Policy%20Preferences%20Overview.pdf

On 6 April 2010 19:16, Vladimir Psenicka vladimir.pseni...@prodeco.czwrote:

 I think no, it can be done via logon script on server.

 Dne 6.4.2010 11:04, Hans-Werner Friedemann napsal(a):
  Hi @ all
 
  I have to change an registry entry under HKEY_CURRENT_USER for each
  userprofile, which exists on a pc!
  how can i perform this with wpkg?
 
  Thanks for help
 
 
 
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Re: [wpkg-users] wpkg createReport

2010-03-08 Thread Peter Gough
I've got this running as a batch script and use group policy to run this at
shutdown on my clients. Works great, assuming you've got Active Directory up
and running ;-)

On 9 March 2010 03:10, Pendl Stefan stefan.pe...@haidlmair.at wrote:

 
  Hello,
  I want to check the installed packages with the wpkg report.
  The installed or not installed packages, based on the wpkg.xml of every
 client, should be central saved on a file server.
  But I don´t know how i must implemented the following command:
  copy /Y %windir%\system32\wpkg.xml
 %wpkgshare%\clientStates\%computername%.xml
  Have I put these command into a xml file or in a Batchscript?
  Thanks for helping!
  Kerstin Gahr
 

 I have this running as a post action batch file in the WPKG client, which
 makes sure, that I get the whole WPKG.XML file, not only a portion of it.

 You can create a package for this too and execute it as the very last
 package using priority zero, but you will end up with a partial WPKG.XML
 file.

 If you are using WPKG with startup or shutdown scripts you can add it
 directly after calling wpkg.js.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Will WPKG uninstall software it did not install?

2010-02-27 Thread Peter Gough
Yes, all true and well worth clarification.

I only offer my advice based on my own experience which is that without
careful testing it is difficult to predict exactly what the implementation
of wpkg will have. I've certainly tripped up more than once as a result of
my own ill-conceived check conditions. This isn't the fault of wpkg, which
has done exactly what I've asked it to do, but for somebody implementing
wpkg in their own 'virgin' environment I think it is important to spell out
the potential for adversely impacting their existing software installations.

On 27 February 2010 19:23, Rainer Meier r.me...@wpkg.org wrote:

 Hi Peter,

  Simply put if for some reason I decide to rollout Firefox v3.5 to all of
  my clients but some of my users have already installed v3.6 then wpkg
  may install the older version over the top of the newer version assuming
  I use a check condition that specifies the file version as v3.5..
 
  In this scenario wpkg.js would check for the v3.5 file and when it
  doesn't find it then it would attempt to install v3.5 using the install
  commands in the package definition file, regardless of whether v3.6 is
  installed or not.

 But in this case I would consider this to be exactly the expected behavior.
 You're assigning a Firefox package to the profile which is assigned to a
 specific host. So you want to make sure this host has Firefox 3.5
 installed. So
 WPKG will assure assuming you pass the necessary commands to WPKG.
 It would also be possible to ALLOW people to install new versions by
 defining
 the checks accordingly (allow version 3.5 or higher).

 So from my point of view your scenario does not apply at all to the
 question
 whether WPKG will touch software not under its control or not. At the time
 you
 assign the Firefox package to the host it's under WPKG control (no matter
 which
 version might be on the host already). Then it's also clear that WPKG will
 remove Firefox once you remove the package from the profile in the future.
 But
 this case is the package under WPKG control use case and not related at
 all to
 the case of Tomas where he asked if a completely unrelated package will be
 touched by WPKG.

 I understood the question in a way that he wants to know if WPKG will
 uninstall
 Microsoft Office if he has a Microsoft Office package in packages.xml
 but
 it's not assigned to the host but installed on the host already. The answer
 to
 this question is simply No because WPKG will not look for Microsoft
 Office
 on this system as long as the package is not assigned to the host.

 WPKG will only take control of software packages which are assigned to the
 host
 at any point in time.

 br,
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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG client service script error on clean

2010-02-27 Thread Peter Gough
I can confirm that the download works okay from Australia.

In terms of software deployment we'd love to stick to simply deploying msi
packages using group policy but this just isn't a practical position for
most of us. Given the variety of software delivery options employed by
vendors we looked for a setup neutral system and wpkg was the best available
at the time. I still believe it offers all sorts of benefits over other
deployment strategies and has the added bonus of being actively developed!

On 27 February 2010 22:13, Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org wrote:

 Vasaris wrote:

 Hi,

  On 27.02.2010 09:41, Vasaris wrote:

  You can also try http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.14/ - although
 there were almost no changes in machine account handling code.


 Sorry, but the server is now experiencing some sort of problems. I cannot
 download beta-client, as the server drops connections right on the beggining
 of the download, or after some Kb are downloaded. And the download is
 extremly slow. I think you should check this out.


 Again, works here - most likely a problem on your side.
 But someone else could recommend if it works for them or not.



  \  I will do that for sure. I would like to clarify - do I have to make
 the trasform with the Properties table additional record, pointing to
 settings.xml file, or else .msi package install will fail?

 I think instead of wasting time on creating a transform file (too bad AD
 does not let you specify MSI parameters)


 OK.

  you can just run a AD script:

 cscript \pathtowpkg.js /install:wpkg

 Easy enough.


 Sorry, but I do not know whats does this accomplishes? Installs the
 client? Or runs the WPKG normal cycle?

 I would rather stick to MSI packages, as they allow seemless upgrade, when
 new version is out. If it is not possible, I think, that server-mode
 deployment is better then.


 If you have wpkg package defined (including WPKG Client), it will install
 WPK Client.

 As AD is not able to handle MSI parameters (although it is advertised that
 it handles MSI), or install exe and such, this was one of motivations to
 write WPKG.

 From experience, you'll have to decide if you want to use AD to deploy
 packages or WPKG.
 If you decide to use both, you'll likely to get confused one day, when WPKG
 will install some package, then AD will remove it, then WPKG will install
 it, and so on.

 If you want seamless upgrades using MSI and parameters, Microsoft
 recommends you to migrate to SMS.


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Re: [wpkg-users] Joining windows to a domain

2010-02-27 Thread Peter Gough
...or instead of using \\server\wpkg as the share name try \\
server.mydomain.com\wpkg (i.e. the fully qualified domain name) which tricks
Windows into thinking that you're using a different network resource.

On 27 February 2010 22:09, Vasaris k...@takas.lt wrote:

  I try join windows xp to domain with netdom.exe. When I run package I get
  error: Multiple connection
  Is someone who tried to join windows to a domain and can help me?

 Simple - try another user account with administrative privileges in the
 domain.

 This is known Windows XP problem. For example, if the computer is joined in
 the domain (already), and you try to re-join, or change computer name, and
 do that from the domain account profile loaded (not local administrative
 accountprofile loaded), this error pops up.

 The account of the profile which is active and loaded must be different
 from the one you supply when authenticating to the DC, during joing
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Re: [wpkg-users] Will WPKG uninstall software it did not install?

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Gough
My experience is that this is *mostly* true.

For example if you decide to roll out v1 of a package but a user has already
manually installed v2 and your check only looks for v1 files then you could
potentially have a situation where wpkg tries to install the older version
on top of the newer version. This would happen when your check conditions
fail even if the software is already installed.

My advice would be to setup a test environment first, rollout wpkg to a
select pilot group of patient users and then introduce the across the rest
of your machines.

BTW are users really able to install anything they want in your environment?
Sounds like a recipe for potential disaster!

On 26 February 2010 21:50, Chris Wilcox not_rich_...@hotmail.com wrote:


  Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:33:20 +
  From: jetsho...@o2.co.uk
  To: wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org
  Subject: [wpkg-users] Will WPKG uninstall software it did not install?

 
  Will wpkg uninstall software it did not install, if said software is
  installed on the computer, has an entry in packages.xml, but is not in
  the relevant profile?
 
  The desired behaviour for myself is that wpkg _not_ do that. Since users
  are allowed to install their own software if they want.

 WPKG will only manage software it installs/uninstalls, it will not touch
 user installed software.

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Re: [wpkg-users] Will WPKG uninstall software it did not install?

2010-02-26 Thread Peter Gough
Agreed but this isn't the scenario I was describing.

Simply put if for some reason I decide to rollout Firefox v3.5 to all of my
clients but some of my users have already installed v3.6 then wpkg may
install the older version over the top of the newer version assuming I use a
check condition that specifies the file version as v3.5..

In this scenario wpkg.js would check for the v3.5 file and when it doesn't
find it then it would attempt to install v3.5 using the install commands in
the package definition file, regardless of whether v3.6 is installed or not.

That's why I was recommending being very careful when writing check
conditions and running a full test and a small pilot group first before
implementing wpkg.

On 27 February 2010 09:22, Rainer Meier r.me...@wpkg.org wrote:

 Hi Kevin,

 On 26.02.2010 23:19, Kevin Keane wrote:
  WPKG does __not__ scan the installed software and remove anything,
  which does not match the profile of the computer.
 
  To be honest, I don't completely trust WPKG in this respect. I have never
 been able to conclusively determine any scenario, but I could have sworn I
 had seen WPKG remove software that had never been part of the profile (even
 after we discussed it on this list a couple months ago).

 This would be quite magic since there is no code in wpkg.js to scan for
 software
 which is not within the profile assigned to the host and which was never
 part of
 the profile.

 So WPKG does never touch any part of the system which is not under its
 control
 (means not within the profile at any time). WPKG also never executes
 commands
 you didn not specify within the package definition. So if you do not have
 any
 commands which could make WPKG to remove Firefox it will never be able to
 remove
 it. Even if you have a Firefox package in your packages.xml which is NOT
 assigned to the host WPKG will never ever run any of these commands unless
 you
 assign that package to the host at least once.

 If you find a reproducible case where WPKG would invent some
 code/commands
 please let me know, I would be very interested to analyze it.


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Re: [wpkg-users] Recover domain user password

2010-02-24 Thread Peter Gough
It works for me on Ubuntu 9.04.

Dan - would you be happy for this to be made available on the wiki?

On 24 February 2010 17:27, Daniel Dehennin daniel.dehen...@ac-caen.frwrote:

 Justin Brinegar brine...@physics.unc.edu writes:

  What version of python must I use to use this?
 
  I get this:
 
  (11:15:33) 1005 /Users/brinegar/Desktop %  python wpkg-pass.py -c
  'BJ+xWYhfskAD2lbx'
File wpkg-pass.py, line 4
  From struct import pack, unpack
^
  SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 
  I tried this with 2.6.1 and 2.4.4.

 I use what comes in debian sid: python 2.5.5.

 It seems to be a standard library module[1]. I wonder why you have:

 --8---cut here---start-8---
 From struct import pack, unpack
  ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 --8---cut here---end---8---

 And not:

 --8---cut here---start-8---
 from struct import pack, unpack
  ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax
 --8---cut here---end---8---

 Maybe the line ending?

 Footnotes:
 [1]  http://docs.python.org/library/struct.html

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[wpkg-users] Recover domain user password

2010-02-21 Thread Peter Gough
I've setup my Windows XP WPKG clients to use a domain user account to
connect to my server's WPKG share. Unfortunately in a moment of stupidity I
reset the password for this account. Is there a way to reverse engineer the
encrypted password in the settings.xml file?

Thanks,

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Re: [wpkg-users] Variable expansion question

2010-02-17 Thread Peter Gough
I've never managed to get this to work for my clients. It's a bit of a pain
but I end up replacing the %software% variable in my individual package.xml
files with the FQDN of my server's share. For some reason my wpkg clients
even insist on the FQDN and won't resolve the hostname alone.

On 18 February 2010 05:56, Landers, Paul paul.land...@ttuhsc.edu wrote:

 I'm having difficulties understanding the expansion of the %SOFTWARE%
 variable.  I've created a custom path on my server from which to serve
 installers.  I've created the SOFTWARE variable in the client (version
 1.3.14) and I've set and verified the path in my silent installer.  However,
 when I run cscript /debug from the client I receive a file not found error
 from the silent installer, as if the expanded path is incorrect.  I can
 successfully browse to the installer folder from Windows Explorer.  Is there
 a way to discover how the wpkg client is actually expanding the %SOFTWARE%
 variable, similar to a shell echo $SOFTWARE ?

 Thanks!

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Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working

2010-02-05 Thread Peter Gough
I'll do some testing but am a bit wary about deploying beta software into a
production environment. I think the only big win for us would be the ability
to 'brand' the dialog box and this probably isn't a compelling enough
reason.

On 5 February 2010 23:59, Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org wrote:

 On 02/05/10 08:54, Peter Gough wrote:

  I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an error messsage
 relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous correspondance
 that there are known issues with this version on SP3 - hopefully these
 will be ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm pretty happy for
 the time being with what I've got working.


 You may want to try:

 http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.12/

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Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working

2010-02-04 Thread Peter Gough
Pendl,

I just wondered if you couid confirm what your users see on the screen when
the workstation is shutting down. I've never been able to get anything to
display apart from the alternating status messages despite trying to set
this up as you have described.

I've got this set in the Client's WPKG parameters:

/synchronize /nonotify /quiet

I've got the WPKG user interface dialog box unticked and I've set sendStatus
value in the config.xml file on my server to 'true'.

Any thoughts?

Peter

On 4 February 2010 21:57, Pendl Stefan stefan.pe...@haidlmair.at wrote:

 
  G'day All,
 
  Just a small problem we're having with the WPKGClient, we are
  unable to
  get it to display any status information from WPKG. It would
  be great if
  it displays what WPKG is currently doing, rather than just alternating
  between two messages... is this possible?
 
  We are using the latest version of WPKG and the config.xml is set to
  param name='sendStatus' value='true' /
  We are using WPKG Client version 1.3.9 and have the 'WPKG User
  Interface' Show=ticked.
  We have tried adding the /sendStatus switch to the Client 'WPKG
  parameters'... E.G. /synchronize /debug /sendStatus (although
  I wouldn't
  think you need the parameter if we have the .xml set)
 
  We are deploying to Windows XP SP3 workstations
 
  Is there anything else we need? Does SP3 break it?
 

 I do have over 100 Windows XP SP3 machines running WPKG client 1.3.9 with
 displaying status information.

 I am using WPKG 1.1.3 latest RC, but this was working with 1.1.2 already.

 I only enabled the setting in config.xml and use the default command line
 for the client settings.

 I have showGUI disabled, since this is used for a different thing.

 WPKG client executes at shutdown at my site, which reduces conflicts and
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Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working

2010-02-04 Thread Peter Gough
Many thanks for the clarification. I've played around again with this today
and it looks like adding '/sendStatus' to the command line options in WPKG
Client and setting the sendStatus value to 'true' in the 'settings.xml' file
on the server gives me information messages together with the regular
message box.

This is on Windows XP SP3 clients using 1.3.6 WPKG Client.

I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an error messsage
relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous correspondance that
there are known issues with this version on SP3 - hopefully these will be
ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm pretty happy for the time
being with what I've got working.

Many thanks for all of your hard work in providing WPKG; it really is much
appreciated!

Peter

On 5 February 2010 17:12, Rainer Meier r.me...@wpkg.org wrote:

 Hi Peter,

 On 05.02.2010 01:34, Peter Gough wrote:
  I just wondered if you couid confirm what your users see on the screen
  when the workstation is shutting down. I've never been able to get
  anything to display apart from the alternating status messages despite
  trying to set this up as you have described.
 
  I've got this set in the Client's WPKG parameters:
 
  /synchronize /nonotify /quiet
 
  I've got the WPKG user interface dialog box unticked and I've set
  sendStatus value in the config.xml file on my server to 'true'.
 
  Any thoughts?

 First a few words for better understanding. WPKG is split into a Server
 and a
 Client Part. The Server-Part is implemented in wpkg.js. Well, actually
 it's
 not a real server but rather a script executed on the client. The Client
 part is
 WPKG Client which just executes wpkg.js depending on your settings. WPKG
 Client is optional and you might also invoke wpkg.js using any other
 method.
 However WPKG Client offers a couple of nice features like running wpkg.js
 at
 startup/shutdown or blocking user input during wpkg.js execution.

 Such features need to be implemented on a quite low level in the operating
 system. Currently logon delay only works on Windows prior to Vista. The
 logon
 delay feature allows you to display messages (alternating) to the user.

 It was intended to extend this static message display into a dynamic status
 update shown to the user. However there are a couple of technical
 limitations.
 First of all wpkg.js will have to communicate with WPKG client in order to
 update the status displayed to the user. Remember: wpkg.js executes the job
 and
 WPKG client prevents user input and displays messages.
 Unfortunately IPC technologies are quite limited from WSH/JScript. So for
 the
 moment wpkg.js only supports writing the status updates to STDOUT if
 /sendStatus
 is enabled (or sendStatus within config.xml is switched on).

 Honestly I am not fully sure if WPKG Client already supports reading from
 STDIN
 and showing these messages to the user. Personally I prefer not to block
 users
 and run WPKG silently in the background. Another reason for me is that
 logon/shutdown delay is not something easily achievable by standard API and
 as
 Vista shows it might be even blocked/prevented by the OS. I am using
 /sendStatus
 usually when I run WPKG from a memory-stick to update offline nodes. So I
 can
 see the progress of package installation within the console window.

 So please note that config.xml controls behavior or wpkg.js but sendStatus
 will
 only make wpkg.js to print status information to the console. If this
 information is picked up and displayed to the user depends on the method
 used to
 run wpkg.js (console, client application which picks up the output).

 br,
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Re: [wpkg-users] load balancing

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Gough
Do them on the weekend and claim the overtime ;-)

2009/7/28 Rainer Meier r.me...@wpkg.org

 Hi,

 Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
  I did some experiments with multicasting (copy the file to the local
  machine using multicast), but it didn't work reliably and setup was
  complicated.
 
  In reality, it perhaps makes sense to split the configuration into
  logical groups (rooms, floors etc.) - and deploy one after another
  (Monday - rooms 1xx, 2xx, Tuesday - 3xx etc.).
  This also prevents you from simple mistakes to some extent: if you made
  a package which doesn't start (i.e. uninstalls the old version, but
  doesn't install a new version, leaving you with no software installed),
  not all users will be affected.

 I fully agree to the proposal and would like to add another possibility. If
 you
 frequently need to deploy this amount of data it might even make sense to
 add
 more servers to deploy the software. So groups of clients could access
 their own
 local WPKG server. In easiest case even a workgroup NAS in an office could
 serve
 local clients while WPKG updates are pushed using rsync or similar.

 However I don't recommend this approach for large enterprises. It's more
 suitable for small or medium sized companies with multiple locations where
 remote traffic to the central server should be avoided.

 So if your 1500 clients are on the same site as the server adding multiple
 profiles to segment the roll-out looks suitable. The easiest way to achieve
 this
 might be to duplicate your WPKG installation into multiple directories and
 having each group of clients pointing to another installation. Just
 creating
 multiple profiles is usually not enough since a package can by definition
 exist
 only once in the package tree - so as soon as you update it all clients
 referring to this package (no matter from which profile) will trigger an
 update.


 Alternatively deploying more server power (load-balancers etc.) seems to me
 it
 could be overkill since upgrading large packages like OOo is not an
 every-day task.

 Another possibility which comes to my mind is: Why not running the upgrade
 manually to spread the load?
 Larger enterprises (like yours seem to be) quite often use hardware which
 supports WoL (Wake On LAN). So just wake up the machines at midnight and
 let
 them deploy the software. If you can't reach a few of them it does not
 matter a
 lot because the remaining ones would not overload your server in the
 morning.
 On clients which are already running you might remotely run the WPKG
 service to
 initiate the deployment.

 Hopefully this gives some hints.


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Re: [wpkg-users] Suggestion for the WPKG message

2009-06-16 Thread Peter Gough
It would be great if it was possible to put in a delay of some sort before
the window appeared. For example if there was a delay of say 20 seconds
before the window was displayed then the chances are that wpkg.js would have
completed its checks and the user wouldn't see the window as it would
already have handed off to the login screen.

Any thoughts on whether this is achievable?

2009/6/16 Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org

 luca_mangane...@comune.trento.it wrote:

 Hi,

 it's possible to show the WPKG message window (that processes all
 installations) to show up only when an installation/uninstallation is
 really running and not everytime?


 No.
 As WPKG Client shows this window, we don't really know if there are any
 packages to be installed or to be removed; wpkg.js is just starting in the
 background to discover that.


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Re: [wpkg-users] Office 2003 uninstall problem

2009-04-17 Thread Peter Gough
The other thing you could try is running it without the /qn switch on a test
machine to see what's really happening during the uninstall, although
Rainer's suggestion is probably the way to go for Office.

2009/4/18 Rainer Meier r.me...@wpkg.org

 Hi mattmole

 mattmole wrote:
  I am attempting to uninstall Microsoft Office 2003. I have used the
 example
  from wpkg.org to create my rule:
 
  package
  id=Office2003
  name = Install Office2003
  reboot=true
  
!--check type=file condition=exists path=C:\Program
 Files\Microsoft
  Office\OFFICE11\WINWORD.EXE/--
check type=uninstall condition=exists path=Microsoft Office
  Professional Edition 2003/
install
 
 cmd='\\10.240.250.246\packages\package_files\office\MSOffice2003\v1.0.0.1\SETUP.EXE'/
!--remove  cmd='msiexec /x
 
 \\10.240.250.246\packages\package_files\office\MSOffice2003\v1.0.0.1\PRO11.msi
  /qn' /--
remove cmd='MsiExec.exe /q
 /x{90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}'/
  /package
 
  As can be seen from the above, I have tried two check types and the error
  returned is the same:
 
  
  Could not process (remove) Install Office 2003
  Package still installed
  
 
  This is very interesting as by running either uninstall command manually
 I
  find that Office 2003 does successfully uninstall.
 
  Any ideas?

 Try running it within a command line call:
 cmd /c msiexec /qn /x {90110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0150048383C9}

 Why don't you stick to the command using the MSI file - usually that works
 great.

 My personal command-line I use to uninstlal Office 2003 (works great):

 msiexec /x %SOFTWARE%\office2003\PRO11.MSI /qn

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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

2009-03-16 Thread Peter Gough
Does this mean that if I want to install the client using Group Policy all I
need to do is create a batch file with 'cscript \\path\to\wpkg.js
/install:wpkgclient' as the first line and as long as I've got a package
called 'wpkgclient' in my packages.xml file it will be installed?

If that's the case then is there any benefit to installing the client as
surely I could use this process to install any software. Additionally would
it then be possible to use the 'cscript \\path\to\wpkg.js /synchronize
/quiet' line in a batch file and let my workstations synch with the server
for all of my packages without installing the client? Does this mean that as
long as my hosts.xml, packages.xml, profiles.xml and settings.xml files are
in the same folder as wpkg.js they would all be used by the client?

Sorry for being a bit slow on this one but I'm trying to get my head around
what benefit I get from installing the client.

Thanks,

Peter

On 16/03/2009, Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org wrote:

 Peter Gough schrieb:

 The MS approach is that you must use transform files (.mst) to modify the
 package. There are apps which will let you work with these (Orca and InstEd
 both spring to mind) but there is no way to directly enter command line
 switches in AD.


 I see.

 Let's follow the market leader then - limit install commands in WPKG to
 one, and forbid any additional options/parameters ;)

 I added it to the TO DO list - installer should search for settingsfile in
 the same directory where the MSI file is located.


 Before it's added, as a workaround, one can add a script to GPO which will
 do:

 cscript \\path\to\wpkg.js /install:wpkgclient


 With a proper XML package (see http://wpkg.org/WPKG) it will install WPKG
 Client once, even if the script is started many times.


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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

2009-03-16 Thread Peter Gough
AFAIK in MS world it doesn't really matter. You can use switches if you're
installing packages using scripts.but if you assign a package via GP then
the user sees a message at startup or logon telling them that Windows is
installing (or removing) a package. Obviously this isn't a true silent
install but I've never met a user who complained about it.

Quite happy to be corrected on this but that's the way I've always seen it
done.

Peter

2009/3/16 Chris Wilcox not_rich_...@hotmail.com

  Hi,

 I'm not a big user of the AD for package allocation but as far as I was
 aware you can specify parameters to use during installation when using the
 AD?

 If not then how do you do silent installs of MSI's?  That uses additional
 parameters (e.g. /q) so the parameters needed to roll out the WPKG client
 should be fine to use?

 Not all MSI apps use MST files to set install parameters...

 Chris




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 The MS approach is that you must use transform files (.mst) to modify the
 package. There are apps which will let you work with these (Orca and InstEd
 both spring to mind) but there is no way to directly enter command line
 switches in AD.

 Peter

 On 16/03/2009, *bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.wpkg.org* 
 bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.wpkg.org wrote:

 http://bugzilla.wpkg.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141






 --- Comment #4 from Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org  2009-03-15
 14:01:44 ---
 I think we could do it.

 Although it's really hard for me to believe that Active Directory really
 does
 not allow setting parameters to MSI packages it deploys via GPO.

 What a system for deploying MSI packages it is if it can't really deploy
 MSI
 packages?

 Every second MSI installer has such parameters - activation key, inf file
 with
 settings, other options.


 Did anyone try asking at a Windows-specific mailing list if such parameters
 are
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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

2009-03-16 Thread Peter Gough
True, although user impatience isn't limited to software installation ;-)

We've used Group Policy to assign packages and generally the process is
pretty smooth but if we're undertaking a major roll-out then we'll
communicate this to the users ahead of time and potentially schedule
installs to suit them. After all, nobody wants the full MS Office install
kicking off when they're about to present their PowerPoint slides to the
CEO!

2009/3/16 Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org

 Peter Gough schrieb:

 AFAIK in MS world it doesn't really matter. You can use switches if you're
 installing packages using scripts.but if you assign a package via GP then
 the user sees a message at startup or logon telling them that Windows is
 installing (or removing) a package. Obviously this isn't a true silent
 install but I've never met a user who complained about it.


 I've seen users hard-rebooting their workstations when software deployment
 via GPO took longer than a few minutes - the users thought installation
 hanged.



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Re: [wpkg-users] [Bug 141] Unable to install client through software group policy

2009-03-15 Thread Peter Gough
The MS approach is that you must use transform files (.mst) to modify the
package. There are apps which will let you work with these (Orca and InstEd
both spring to mind) but there is no way to directly enter command line
switches in AD.

Peter

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bugzilla-dae...@bugzilla.wpkg.org wrote:

 http://bugzilla.wpkg.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141






 --- Comment #4 from Tomasz Chmielewski man...@wpkg.org  2009-03-15
 14:01:44 ---
 I think we could do it.

 Although it's really hard for me to believe that Active Directory really
 does
 not allow setting parameters to MSI packages it deploys via GPO.

 What a system for deploying MSI packages it is if it can't really deploy
 MSI
 packages?

 Every second MSI installer has such parameters - activation key, inf file
 with
 settings, other options.


 Did anyone try asking at a Windows-specific mailing list if such parameters
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Re: [wpkg-users] WPKG - possibly stupid questions

2009-03-14 Thread Peter Gough
Bart,

Would it be possible to post the script? This sounds like it might be the
most straightforward way to implement things.

Thanks,

Peter

On 14/03/2009, Bart van Egmond b...@webbieworld.nl wrote:

  Hi Pete,

 I think it is not possible to use group policy to deploy WPKG at the moment
 ( see this bug: http://bugzilla.wpkg.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141 ). In my
 network, I wrote a small startup script that checks if WPKG is installed and
 else it runs the installation (and reboot). This is all working perfect and
 using this method there are no downsides.

 Bart

 Adam Williams wrote:

 for option 3, the cscript dos client can only connect to file shares as the
 guest account.  also cscript doesn't exist on XP/Vista 64-bit, you have to
 use the GUI client.  the GUI client comes as an .msi you should be able to
 push out via group policy.

 Peter Gough wrote:

 I'm trying to get my head around the best way to implement WPKG in our
 environment but am struggling to work out the most appropriate options.
 We're running Windows Server 2003 with Active Directory and Windows XP SP3
 on workstations.

 I have created a share, granted read-only permissions to my 'wpkg-user'
 account, copied the server files into it, created some subfolders for my
 packages and updated the hosts.xml, packages.xml and profiles.xml files as
 described in the wiki.

 I have also installed wpkg-client on a single workstation, configured it to
 point to this share and exported my settings.xml file to the same share as
 the other server files.

 As I understand it I can now do the following:

 1, push the client application to my workstations using psexec. If I do
 this then the workstations would run the wpkg service, access the share,
 check their status against the hosts.xml file to see if they are in any
 profile groups and would then install packages as required. Once each client
 connects (at startup?) they would write a local wpkg.xml file to
 %system%\system32.

 2, as above but use Group Policy to deliver the client to workstations,
 however I can't work out how to apply the install switches as described in
 the documentation. I've tried using GP to run a script with the full command
 line but when I try to do this I get an error that the package is invalid.

 3, use a GP script to run *'cscript \\server\path\to\WPKG\wpkg.js
 /synchronize /quiet /nonotify' *or the wpkg-start.bat file at startup.
 Doing this would mean that I don't need to install the client but the
 downside is that I don't seem to get any wpkg dialog boxes when Windows
 starts - all the user sees is the generic 'running startup scripts' message
 from GP and given that some of the installs take a while this might lead
 some users to restart their machines thinking they have hung. I also can't
 get this to work unless I give 'authenticated users' permissions to read the
 shared folders which means that there doesn't seem to be any benefit to
 setting up the wpkg-user account.

 Can somebody who has done this let me know what the benefits would be in
 using the client install over option 3. If there are some tangible benefits
 then can you let me know if it is possible to install the client using GP.
 If option 3 is preferred for my environment then can somebody point me
 towards how I might go about solving my missing dialog box issue and whether
 there are any other issues I need to think about prior to implementation.

 Many thanks in advance,

 Pete

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