Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... > Can you try that and report if it behaves better for you? Now if i start/stop the service manually i got: Tipo evento: Errore Origine evento:WpkgService Categoria evento: Nessuno ID evento: 1 Data: 16/02/2010 Ora: 10.25.51 Utente:N/D Computer: VOLDEMORT Descrizione: ServiceStart->SERVICE_RUNNING right after 'initializin socket...' -- dott. Marco Gaiarin GNUPG Key ID: 240A3D66 Associazione ``La Nostra Famiglia''http://www.sv.lnf.it/ Polo FVG - Via della Bontà , 7 - 33078 - San Vito al Tagliamento (PN) marco.gaiarin(at)sv.lnf.it tel +39-0434-842711 fax +39-0434-842797 Dona il 5 PER MILLE a LA NOSTRA FAMIGLIA! http://www.lanostrafamiglia.it/chi_siamo/5xmille.php (cf 00307430132, categoria ONLUS oppure RICERCA SANITARIA) - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
On 15.02.2010 18:43, Marco Gaiarin wrote: Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.12/ This one is "technically" newer: http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.13/ and fixes one event falsely reported as Error (similar to what you see, but could be something else). Can you try that and report if it behaves better for you? -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
Mandi! Tomasz Chmielewski In chel di` si favelave... > http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.12/ Tried, xp sp3 in a virtualbox guest. Effectively the service start, stop and restart flawlessy, no more lockup or errors. But wpkg does not start: everytime i catch a: Tipo evento: Errore Origine evento: WpkgService Categoria evento: Nessuno ID evento: 1 Data: 15/02/2010 Ora: 18.29.43 Utente:N/D Computer: VOLDEMORT Descrizione: Script pre action execution: failure. Exit code: 2 (file not found?). Clearly file are here, wpkg settings are unchanged. Wait a moment... g... seems that on *real* shutdown all works as expected, simply restarting the service manually throw this error. Boh. -- dott. Marco Gaiarin GNUPG Key ID: 240A3D66 Associazione ``La Nostra Famiglia''http://www.sv.lnf.it/ Polo FVG - Via della Bontà , 7 - 33078 - San Vito al Tagliamento (PN) marco.gaiarin(at)sv.lnf.it tel +39-0434-842711 fax +39-0434-842797 Dona il 5 PER MILLE a LA NOSTRA FAMIGLIA! http://www.lanostrafamiglia.it/chi_siamo/5xmille.php (cf 00307430132, categoria ONLUS oppure RICERCA SANITARIA) - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
Rainer, thanks for your information, however I understand how WPKG works, and the WPKG client 1.3.9 is definitely supposed to be able to read from STDIN and support /sendStatus 21-Sep-2009 WPKG Client 1.3.9 has been released. Small summary (not to be complete): * 32-bit and 64-bit client versions * support for /sendStatus switch of wpkg.js 1.1.x (display the progress in the message window) The question is, why doesn't it work? It certainly has nothing to do with VC++. I'm thinking it is more to do with a service that our Group Policy is blocking. Are there dependant services required? Regarding logon/shutdown delay, this is most certainly a required feature, for a number of reasons: 1) Much of our software requires a reboot. We simply cannot automatically reboot production users during the day, no matter how much "warning" you give people. 2) Much of our software takes 5-10 minutes to install, however the icons sometimes become available before installation completes. Hence, users can "run" the software before its finished installing, and it will crash, sometimes ruining the actual installation. 3) Installing software slows down the computer and network connection, thus interfering with production users. I am curious if Windows 7 will support logon delay, or at least shutdown delay. Status messages are more important if we use the Execute at System start-up, but we could easily swap to Execute on shutdown. However Execute on shutdown will of coarse only work with a shutdown delay :) We will be migrating our 300 users to Windows 7 in the near future, so WPKG compatibility with that is quite an important factor... I guess we need to start testing. From: Peter Gough [mailto:pmgo...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 6:55 PM To: Rainer Meier Cc: wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org Subject: Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working Many thanks for the clarification. I've played around again with this today and it looks like adding '/sendStatus' to the command line options in WPKG Client and setting the sendStatus value to 'true' in the 'settings.xml' file on the server gives me information messages together with the regular message box. This is on Windows XP SP3 clients using 1.3.6 WPKG Client. I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an error messsage relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous correspondance that there are known issues with this version on SP3 - hopefully these will be ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm pretty happy for the time being with what I've got working. Many thanks for all of your hard work in providing WPKG; it really is much appreciated! Peter On 5 February 2010 17:12, Rainer Meier wrote: Hi Peter, On 05.02.2010 01:34, Peter Gough wrote: > I just wondered if you couid confirm what your users see on the screen > when the workstation is shutting down. I've never been able to get > anything to display apart from the alternating status messages despite > trying to set this up as you have described. > > I've got this set in the Client's WPKG parameters: > > /synchronize /nonotify /quiet > > I've got the WPKG user interface dialog box unticked and I've set > sendStatus value in the config.xml file on my server to 'true'. > > Any thoughts? First a few words for better understanding. WPKG is split into a "Server" and a "Client" Part. The Server-Part is implemented in wpkg.js. Well, actually it's not a real server but rather a script executed on the client. The Client part is "WPKG Client" which just executes wpkg.js depending on your settings. WPKG Client is optional and you might also invoke wpkg.js using any other method. However WPKG Client offers a couple of nice features like running wpkg.js at startup/shutdown or blocking user input during wpkg.js execution. Such features need to be implemented on a quite low level in the operating system. Currently logon delay only works on Windows prior to Vista. The logon delay feature allows you to display messages (alternating) to the user. It was intended to extend this static message display into a dynamic status update shown to the user. However there are a couple of technical limitations. First of all wpkg.js will have to communicate with WPKG client in order to update the status displayed to the user. Remember: wpkg.js executes the job and WPKG client prevents user input and displays messages. Unfortunately IPC technologies are quite lim
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
I'll do some testing but am a bit wary about deploying beta software into a production environment. I think the only big win for us would be the ability to 'brand' the dialog box and this probably isn't a compelling enough reason. On 5 February 2010 23:59, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote: > On 02/05/10 08:54, Peter Gough wrote: > > I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an error messsage >> relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous correspondance >> that there are known issues with this version on SP3 - hopefully these >> will be ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm pretty happy for >> the time being with what I've got working. >> > > You may want to try: > > http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.12/ > > -- > Tomasz Chmielewski > http://wpkg.org > - > wpkg-users mailing list archives >> > http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ > ___ > wpkg-users mailing list > wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org > http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users > - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
> > > I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an > error messsage > > relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous > correspondance > > that there are known issues with this version on SP3 - > hopefully these > > will be ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm > pretty happy for > > the time being with what I've got working. > > You may want to try: > > http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.12/ > > -- > Tomasz Chmielewski > http://wpkg.org > -- Could this issue with WPKG Client not working on some WinXP SP3 machines be related to missing VC++ redistributable packages? I know, that I install VC++ 2005 SP1 redistributables onto all of our machines due to one of our applications needs them. --- Stefan - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
On 02/05/10 08:54, Peter Gough wrote: I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an error messsage relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous correspondance that there are known issues with this version on SP3 - hopefully these will be ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm pretty happy for the time being with what I've got working. You may want to try: http://wpkg.org/files/client/beta/1.3.12/ -- Tomasz Chmielewski http://wpkg.org - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
Many thanks for the clarification. I've played around again with this today and it looks like adding '/sendStatus' to the command line options in WPKG Client and setting the sendStatus value to 'true' in the 'settings.xml' file on the server gives me information messages together with the regular message box. This is on Windows XP SP3 clients using 1.3.6 WPKG Client. I've tried updating my test clients to 1.3.9 but get an error messsage relating to the WPKG service. I understand from previous correspondance that there are known issues with this version on SP3 - hopefully these will be ironed out at some stage in the future but I'm pretty happy for the time being with what I've got working. Many thanks for all of your hard work in providing WPKG; it really is much appreciated! Peter On 5 February 2010 17:12, Rainer Meier wrote: > Hi Peter, > > On 05.02.2010 01:34, Peter Gough wrote: > > I just wondered if you couid confirm what your users see on the screen > > when the workstation is shutting down. I've never been able to get > > anything to display apart from the alternating status messages despite > > trying to set this up as you have described. > > > > I've got this set in the Client's WPKG parameters: > > > > /synchronize /nonotify /quiet > > > > I've got the WPKG user interface dialog box unticked and I've set > > sendStatus value in the config.xml file on my server to 'true'. > > > > Any thoughts? > > First a few words for better understanding. WPKG is split into a "Server" > and a > "Client" Part. The Server-Part is implemented in wpkg.js. Well, actually > it's > not a real server but rather a script executed on the client. The Client > part is > "WPKG Client" which just executes wpkg.js depending on your settings. WPKG > Client is optional and you might also invoke wpkg.js using any other > method. > However WPKG Client offers a couple of nice features like running wpkg.js > at > startup/shutdown or blocking user input during wpkg.js execution. > > Such features need to be implemented on a quite low level in the operating > system. Currently logon delay only works on Windows prior to Vista. The > logon > delay feature allows you to display messages (alternating) to the user. > > It was intended to extend this static message display into a dynamic status > update shown to the user. However there are a couple of technical > limitations. > First of all wpkg.js will have to communicate with WPKG client in order to > update the status displayed to the user. Remember: wpkg.js executes the job > and > WPKG client prevents user input and displays messages. > Unfortunately IPC technologies are quite limited from WSH/JScript. So for > the > moment wpkg.js only supports writing the status updates to STDOUT if > /sendStatus > is enabled (or sendStatus within config.xml is switched on). > > Honestly I am not fully sure if WPKG Client already supports reading from > STDIN > and showing these messages to the user. Personally I prefer not to block > users > and run WPKG silently in the background. Another reason for me is that > logon/shutdown delay is not something easily achievable by standard API and > as > Vista shows it might be even blocked/prevented by the OS. I am using > /sendStatus > usually when I run WPKG from a memory-stick to update offline nodes. So I > can > see the progress of package installation within the console window. > > So please note that config.xml controls behavior or wpkg.js but sendStatus > will > only make wpkg.js to print status information to the console. If this > information is picked up and displayed to the user depends on the method > used to > run wpkg.js (console, client application which picks up the output). > > br, > Rainer > - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
Hi Peter, On 05.02.2010 01:34, Peter Gough wrote: > I just wondered if you couid confirm what your users see on the screen > when the workstation is shutting down. I've never been able to get > anything to display apart from the alternating status messages despite > trying to set this up as you have described. > > I've got this set in the Client's WPKG parameters: > > /synchronize /nonotify /quiet > > I've got the WPKG user interface dialog box unticked and I've set > sendStatus value in the config.xml file on my server to 'true'. > > Any thoughts? First a few words for better understanding. WPKG is split into a "Server" and a "Client" Part. The Server-Part is implemented in wpkg.js. Well, actually it's not a real server but rather a script executed on the client. The Client part is "WPKG Client" which just executes wpkg.js depending on your settings. WPKG Client is optional and you might also invoke wpkg.js using any other method. However WPKG Client offers a couple of nice features like running wpkg.js at startup/shutdown or blocking user input during wpkg.js execution. Such features need to be implemented on a quite low level in the operating system. Currently logon delay only works on Windows prior to Vista. The logon delay feature allows you to display messages (alternating) to the user. It was intended to extend this static message display into a dynamic status update shown to the user. However there are a couple of technical limitations. First of all wpkg.js will have to communicate with WPKG client in order to update the status displayed to the user. Remember: wpkg.js executes the job and WPKG client prevents user input and displays messages. Unfortunately IPC technologies are quite limited from WSH/JScript. So for the moment wpkg.js only supports writing the status updates to STDOUT if /sendStatus is enabled (or sendStatus within config.xml is switched on). Honestly I am not fully sure if WPKG Client already supports reading from STDIN and showing these messages to the user. Personally I prefer not to block users and run WPKG silently in the background. Another reason for me is that logon/shutdown delay is not something easily achievable by standard API and as Vista shows it might be even blocked/prevented by the OS. I am using /sendStatus usually when I run WPKG from a memory-stick to update offline nodes. So I can see the progress of package installation within the console window. So please note that config.xml controls behavior or wpkg.js but sendStatus will only make wpkg.js to print status information to the console. If this information is picked up and displayed to the user depends on the method used to run wpkg.js (console, client application which picks up the output). br, Rainer - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
Pendl, I just wondered if you couid confirm what your users see on the screen when the workstation is shutting down. I've never been able to get anything to display apart from the alternating status messages despite trying to set this up as you have described. I've got this set in the Client's WPKG parameters: /synchronize /nonotify /quiet I've got the WPKG user interface dialog box unticked and I've set sendStatus value in the config.xml file on my server to 'true'. Any thoughts? Peter On 4 February 2010 21:57, Pendl Stefan wrote: > > > > G'day All, > > > > Just a small problem we're having with the WPKGClient, we are > > unable to > > get it to display any status information from WPKG. It would > > be great if > > it displays what WPKG is currently doing, rather than just alternating > > between two messages... is this possible? > > > > We are using the latest version of WPKG and the config.xml is set to > > > > We are using WPKG Client version 1.3.9 and have the 'WPKG User > > Interface' Show=ticked. > > We have tried adding the /sendStatus switch to the Client 'WPKG > > parameters'... E.G. /synchronize /debug /sendStatus (although > > I wouldn't > > think you need the parameter if we have the .xml set) > > > > We are deploying to Windows XP SP3 workstations > > > > Is there anything else we need? Does SP3 break it? > > > > I do have over 100 Windows XP SP3 machines running WPKG client 1.3.9 with > displaying status information. > > I am using WPKG 1.1.3 latest RC, but this was working with 1.1.2 already. > > I only enabled the setting in config.xml and use the default command line > for the client settings. > > I have showGUI disabled, since this is used for a different thing. > > WPKG client executes at shutdown at my site, which reduces conflicts and > complexity. > > --- > Stefan > - > wpkg-users mailing list archives >> > http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ > ___ > wpkg-users mailing list > wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org > http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users > - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
Re: [wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
> > G'day All, > > Just a small problem we're having with the WPKGClient, we are > unable to > get it to display any status information from WPKG. It would > be great if > it displays what WPKG is currently doing, rather than just alternating > between two messages... is this possible? > > We are using the latest version of WPKG and the config.xml is set to > > We are using WPKG Client version 1.3.9 and have the 'WPKG User > Interface' Show=ticked. > We have tried adding the /sendStatus switch to the Client 'WPKG > parameters'... E.G. /synchronize /debug /sendStatus (although > I wouldn't > think you need the parameter if we have the .xml set) > > We are deploying to Windows XP SP3 workstations > > Is there anything else we need? Does SP3 break it? > I do have over 100 Windows XP SP3 machines running WPKG client 1.3.9 with displaying status information. I am using WPKG 1.1.3 latest RC, but this was working with 1.1.2 already. I only enabled the setting in config.xml and use the default command line for the client settings. I have showGUI disabled, since this is used for a different thing. WPKG client executes at shutdown at my site, which reduces conflicts and complexity. --- Stefan - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
[wpkg-users] /sendStatus command not working
G'day All, Just a small problem we're having with the WPKGClient, we are unable to get it to display any status information from WPKG. It would be great if it displays what WPKG is currently doing, rather than just alternating between two messages... is this possible? We are using the latest version of WPKG and the config.xml is set to We are using WPKG Client version 1.3.9 and have the 'WPKG User Interface' Show=ticked. We have tried adding the /sendStatus switch to the Client 'WPKG parameters'... E.G. /synchronize /debug /sendStatus (although I wouldn't think you need the parameter if we have the .xml set) We are deploying to Windows XP SP3 workstations Is there anything else we need? Does SP3 break it? Thanks for all your help, WPKG is an amazing too! Damian - wpkg-users mailing list archives >> http://lists.wpkg.org/pipermail/wpkg-users/ ___ wpkg-users mailing list wpkg-users@lists.wpkg.org http://lists.wpkg.org/mailman/listinfo/wpkg-users
