[WSG] Some light reading...
Dave Shea from Mezzoblue has a great article on MOSe menus - or progressive enhancement: http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2003/10/27/mose_menus/ As per rumours last week XAML is real, is pronounced zamel , and is ³the language used to declaratively render the user interface of the pages that make up the application² - Craig Saila gives a quick overview for the non-ubergeeks: http://www.saila.com/columns/lcky/ Search Engine Optimization - Titles. A light read, but a good starter: http://www.7nights.com/asterisk/archives/search_engine_optimization_titles.p hp AIR - Accessibility Internet Rally - is a web design competition that increases awareness of the tools and techniques that make the Internet accessible to everyone. 2003 entries here: http://www.knowbility.org/AIR-Austin/2003/2003sites.jsp Last days to enter ReUseit! A design challenge for coders, and a coding challenge for designers - create a redesign of Jakob Nielsen's useit.com: http://www.builtforthefuture.com/reuseit/ Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Browser test suite
The lazy way is to just sign up with http://www.browsercam.com/, but it's not really cheap (although if you're buying multiple os versions, it may compare ok) Glenn "Religion and science are opposed, but only in the same sense as that in which my thumb and forefinger are opposed - and between the two, one can grasp everything" - Sir William Bragg. http://glenn.typepad.com/news/ Miles Tillinger wrote: What kind of setup do ppl here use for browser testing? I'm setting up a PC with Virtual PC and multiple OS's, but I'm wondering things like: how many installs of each OS needed to test various version of IE for example, does IE6 on Win2k have different issues to IE6 on any other Win OS (XP,ME,98) Is there any way to have multiple IE version on the same OS? Each OS install will incur another licence fee, so I'm trying to keep things cheap! If there is a better way to do it I'm open to suggestions... Cheers, Miles. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Browser test suite
Strike 'cannot test sites without external access', they offer a VPN service... > -Original Message- > From: Miles Tillinger > Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2003 11:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [WSG] Browser test suite > > > I have used browsercam back when there was a free account for > evolt members, but that has since been removed. Browser cam > is a great service and provides 90% of the solution, but > there are a few reasons why its not viable: cannot test sites > without external access, can't test javascript interaction, > time consuming test-change-regress process, can't interact > with login process, and i could think of a few more reasons > beyond that... I'm not taking anything away from it, I just > don't think it fully caters for web application testing. > > Miles. > > > -Original Message- > > From: David McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:56 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [WSG] Browser test suite > > > > > > > > Miles, > > > > it's been mentioned before here and it's a great service: > > > > htpp://www.browsercam.com > > > > Regards, > > > > David McDonald > > Web Designer > > Melbourne, Australia > > http://www.davidmcdonald.org > > > > ICQ:11814164 > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Miles Tillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:18 am > > Subject: [WSG] Browser test suite > > > > > What kind of setup do ppl here use for browser testing? I'm > > > setting up a PC with Virtual PC and multiple OS's, but I'm > > > wondering things like: > > > > > > how many installs of each OS needed to test various version of IE > > > for example, does IE6 on Win2k have different issues to > IE6 on any > > > other Win OS (XP,ME,98) > > > Is there any way to have multiple IE version on the same OS? > > > Each OS install will incur another licence fee, so I'm trying to > > > keep things cheap! > > > > > > If there is a better way to do it I'm open to suggestions... > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Miles. > > > * > > > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > * > > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > * > > > > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Browser test suite
I have used browsercam back when there was a free account for evolt members, but that has since been removed. Browser cam is a great service and provides 90% of the solution, but there are a few reasons why its not viable: cannot test sites without external access, can't test javascript interaction, time consuming test-change-regress process, can't interact with login process, and i could think of a few more reasons beyond that... I'm not taking anything away from it, I just don't think it fully caters for web application testing. Miles. > -Original Message- > From: David McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 29 October 2003 10:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [WSG] Browser test suite > > > > Miles, > > it's been mentioned before here and it's a great service: > > htpp://www.browsercam.com > > Regards, > > David McDonald > Web Designer > Melbourne, Australia > http://www.davidmcdonald.org > > ICQ:11814164 > > - Original Message - > From: Miles Tillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:18 am > Subject: [WSG] Browser test suite > > > What kind of setup do ppl here use for browser testing? I'm > > setting up a PC with Virtual PC and multiple OS's, but I'm > > wondering things like: > > > > how many installs of each OS needed to test various version of IE > > for example, does IE6 on Win2k have different issues to IE6 on any > > other Win OS (XP,ME,98) > > Is there any way to have multiple IE version on the same OS? > > Each OS install will incur another licence fee, so I'm trying to > > keep things cheap! > > > > If there is a better way to do it I'm open to suggestions... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Miles. > > * > > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > * > > > > > > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Browser test suite
Have you considered Browser Cam? ( www.browsercam.com ) - tim Miles Tillinger spoke the following wise words on 29/10/2003 11:18 AM EST: If there is a better way to do it I'm open to suggestions... * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Browser test suite
Miles, it's been mentioned before here and it's a great service: htpp://www.browsercam.com Regards, David McDonald Web Designer Melbourne, Australia http://www.davidmcdonald.org ICQ:11814164 - Original Message - From: Miles Tillinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 11:18 am Subject: [WSG] Browser test suite > What kind of setup do ppl here use for browser testing? I'm > setting up a PC with Virtual PC and multiple OS's, but I'm > wondering things like: > > how many installs of each OS needed to test various version of IE > for example, does IE6 on Win2k have different issues to IE6 on any > other Win OS (XP,ME,98) > Is there any way to have multiple IE version on the same OS? > Each OS install will incur another licence fee, so I'm trying to > keep things cheap! > > If there is a better way to do it I'm open to suggestions... > > Cheers, > > Miles. > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] Browser test suite
What kind of setup do ppl here use for browser testing? I'm setting up a PC with Virtual PC and multiple OS's, but I'm wondering things like: how many installs of each OS needed to test various version of IE for example, does IE6 on Win2k have different issues to IE6 on any other Win OS (XP,ME,98) Is there any way to have multiple IE version on the same OS? Each OS install will incur another licence fee, so I'm trying to keep things cheap! If there is a better way to do it I'm open to suggestions... Cheers, Miles. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] A comic book version of tables to webstandards...
russ weakley wrote: http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/ "Repent! The road to hell is paved with spacer gifs and nested tables!" I love it! Glenn "Religion and science are opposed, but only in the same sense as that in which my thumb and forefinger are opposed - and between the two, one can grasp everything" - Sir William Bragg. http://glenn.typepad.com/news/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] A comic book version of tables to webstandards...
Rather nice - caused me to reconsider my plans to do something similar (in aims, not style). Jonathan On Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at 12:09 AM, russ weakley wrote: http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/ Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * -- If you ever think you'll look back one day and laugh about it, you might as well laugh about it now * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
