[WSG] Left align legend

2005-10-15 Thread James Oppenheim

Hi all,

I am currently trying to mark up a form using fieldset and legend.

However, I want the legend to left align with the rest of the form and not 
have a right margin.


I have tried using:
Legend {
padding-left: 0;
margin-left: 0;
}

This works fine in Mozilla and Firefox, but the left margin remains in Opera 
and IE on the PC.


Is there a way to left align the legend without a CSS hack?


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RE: [WSG] faux columns for fixed AND percentage width

2005-10-15 Thread Nick Cowie

I wrote:

 I will see if I can pump out a working example to my blog in the next day or 
 so.

Why should I when there is an version at Position is Everything
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/sidepages/jello-piefecta-cleanhtml

It does everything you need and my example does need a little tidying up or 
more to work in all browsers


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RE: [WSG] Feedback www.mcguireomaha.com

2005-10-15 Thread kvnmcwebn
looks nice,
on my dialup connection it loads a bit slow, not to to bad.
Maybe the masthead jpeg could be compressed a bit more.



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Re: [WSG] Left align legend

2005-10-15 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

James Oppenheim wrote:


I am currently trying to mark up a form using fieldset and legend.


This works fine in Mozilla and Firefox, but the left margin remains in 
Opera and IE on the PC.


Legend is notoriously impossible to consistently style. In recent 
versions of Firefox the developers even prevented it from being floated.
You could try giving the fieldset a position: relative and absolutely 
positioning the legend...


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[WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

2005-10-15 Thread kvnmcwebn
hello all,
let me discribe the effect that im trying to achieve with css using a table
as a metaphor.

table width='760' height=100%
tr height=120px td../td/tr
tr height=auto td../td/tr
tr heigth=120pxtd../td/tr

/table

Im trying this with 4 divs-a header, body and footer and a wrapper.


My layout is further complicated by a shadow that surronds
all sides of the 3 content divs.

here is my feeble attemp. It works better in ie that ff right now.

http://www.mcmonagle.biz/final5.htm


I took the method for the corners/shadow from
TJKDesign but it needs work

thanks thanks for any suggestions.
-best
kvnmcwebn




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Re: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

2005-10-15 Thread Vincent Johansen
1. You got a problem with IE5.2 for Mac too, your footer won't display.

2. It seems to me that you got alot of unescesary classes and id's in
your stylesheet, in addition you've both got an inline stylesheet and
external one, some ID's and classes are defined two times. It would be
a good idea for you to clean up the CSS code to make sure that the same
thing won't be defined twice.

3. Your styles should go in your head/head area. Not
outside. And you need to end your amp with ; so it reads amp;

I doubt this will help the 100% height design though, but are issues that needs to be fixed. :)

Good luck! I'll see if I can look deeper into this later.


-Vincent Hasselgård
On 10/15/05, kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hello all,let me discribe the effect that im trying to achieve with css using a tableas a metaphor.table width='760' height=100%tr height=120px td../td/trtr height=auto td../td/tr
tr heigth=120pxtd../td/tr/tableIm trying this with 4 divs-a header, body and footer and a wrapper.My layout is further complicated by a shadow that surronds
all sides of the 3 content divs.here is my feeble attemp. It works better in ie that ff right now.http://www.mcmonagle.biz/final5.htmI took the method for the corners/shadow from
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RE: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

2005-10-15 Thread kvnmcwebn
I guess i put the page together hastily just trying to figure out the height
challenge.
-didnt validate it.

Thanks for your help especially with the ampersand delimeter thing - that
was
showing up on previous versions when i ran it through the validator.

I've nearly given up on solving the 100% height problem on my own. I tried
converting 3 column stretched width layouts to vertical a vertical
format buy no joy.

Right now I'm trying another fixed height version but its a big
comprimize in the look im going for.
Hope to get some good advice here.


-kvnmcwebn


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Re: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

2005-10-15 Thread Total {'-_-'} Ninj@
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- Original Message - 
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Subject: RE: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.


 I guess i put the page together hastily just trying to figure out the
height
 challenge.
 -didnt validate it.

 Thanks for your help especially with the ampersand delimeter thing - that
 was
 showing up on previous versions when i ran it through the validator.

 I've nearly given up on solving the 100% height problem on my own. I tried
 converting 3 column stretched width layouts to vertical a vertical
 format buy no joy.

 Right now I'm trying another fixed height version but its a big
 comprimize in the look im going for.
 Hope to get some good advice here.


 -kvnmcwebn


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[WSG] Requesting Help with shifting pixel bug in IE

2005-10-15 Thread Jim Chapin
I have an IE problem that I was hoping to get some help on.

I am currently converting an existing design to CSS from a table based
layout.  I need to be as standards based as possible as well as providing a
high level of accessibility.

Other than using way more divs than I'd like, I have pretty much been able
to achieve a workable design until I tried to replicate a two column list
with underlines and hover effects.

Looks fine in Firefox. In IE 6, the list spacing is wrong when the page
loads.  As you hover over each of the links, it shifts down into its proper
position.

The problem, I believe, has to do the IE floating pixel problem, but I
cannot seem to find a workable solution. 

Any gurus out there willing to give a CSS newbie a hand?

The page in question can be viewed here:
http://www.cubscouting.com/photometry2.cfm

I have moved all of the CSS to the document page (normally I linked to
several CSS pages) except for the navigation.

Thanks in advance for your help.


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Re: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

2005-10-15 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

kvnmcwebn wrote:
Right now I'm trying another fixed height version but its a big 
comprimize in the look im going for. Hope to get some good advice 
here.


I wonder how a 'fixed height' should fit different windows/screens, but
I guess 'fixed to window' is what you mean.

You may pick up some solutions that'll actually work here:
http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_8d.html and follow the links to more
info through the links on top of the main column.

Another test/example: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/moa_8e.html

Add in whatever you like regarding design, as there isn't much you
cannot do with it. Good luck.

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Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-15 Thread Mordechai Peller

Geoff Pack wrote:

Sure. But if you are only testing your own sites, and not surfing the web with 
them, then it shouldn't be much of a risk.
Assuming the site hasn't been hacked, there should be ZERO additional 
risk beyond just being connected.

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Re: [WSG] css for ie4/ie5

2005-10-15 Thread Mordechai Peller

Peter Ottery wrote:

fwiw, I forgot about testing in IE4 about 3 years ago. I still like to
make things look ok in IE5.0 but if some text is butting up
against the edge of a container due to it not supporting some float
issue or something, i dont worry about it. Its usually a better story
with IE5.5.
  
Unless the site caters to a very unusual crowd, IE4 should be given 
either unstyled or slightly styled content. IE5.0 might be worth 
supporting if doing so is trivial, but otherwise treat it like IE4.


It's important to draw the line somewhere. Mosaic, for example, doesn't 
support CSS or tables, and I'm not sure if it even supports forms.


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RE: [WSG] 3 column vetical layout.

2005-10-15 Thread kvnmcwebn
thanks georg that brilliant.
i slightly modified some source from the frames with no frames site because
it used more block elements than yours. 

you can check out the basic template that i created if you like
http://www.mcmonagle.biz/final9.htm

I  should have asked sooner.
-best 
kvnmcwebn



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Re: [WSG] faux columns for fixed AND percentage width

2005-10-15 Thread Titanilla




Nick Cowie wrote:

  I wrote:

  
  
I will see if I can pump out a working example to my blog in the next day or so.

  
  
Why should I when there is an version at Position is Everything
http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/sidepages/jello-piefecta-cleanhtml

It does everything you need and my example does need a little tidying up or more to work in all browsers


  


Yippie! Just the thing I was looking for. If we weren't approx. 10
thousand miles apart, I could just kiss you now :)

Even though I knew the Jello Mold before, I wasn't fully aware of its
magnificence.

Thanks for the help,
Titanilla