Re: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox)
To get an idea of how screen readers vocalise content (it also many other features) I would recommend trying adesigner (http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/adesigner) On 06/12/2007, Jixor - Stephen I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said how would it compare for a developer that is making an effort to correctly mark up their html just to get an impression of how it would work for a screen reader user? Steve Green wrote: A year ago I started to evaluate FireVox 2.6 and had a dialog with Charles Chen, its creator. At that time there is no way I would describe it as full-fledged screen reader as it had many shortcomings. I got the impression it was really just a hobby project, and Charles said he had pretty much abandoned it in order to work on more interesting stuff. I see it is now up to version 3.4 so it will be interesting to see how it has progressed. It was certainly usable, but it bears no comparison with a professional screen reader like JAWS, which is a far superior product. OK, it should be for $1500 but people should not think that they're getting a $1500 product for free when they install FireVox. It's more akin to products in the $200 price bracket. One example of the difference is in forms where label elements have not been used, and let's face it, that's 99% of all forms. JAWS applies heuristics to identify the text that is most likely to be the label, and associates it with the form control as if a label element had been used. 9 times out of 10 it gets it right. FireVox does not do this. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: 05 December 2007 04:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Article: Vocalize Firefox (text-to-speech extensions for Firefox) I'm wondering if anyone has tried/tested the following potentially useful extensions and if so what their opinion was/is: Two recently released text-to-speech extensions can transform Firefox into a talking Web browser suitable for users with visual impairments -- and anyone else who can use a speech interface to the Web. Fire Vox is designed to be a full-fledged screen reader in a browser, usable for daily browsing even for unsighted users. CLiCk, Speak provides point-and-click screen reading, which can be helpful for partially-sighted users or sighted users who have written language difficulties (such as dyslexia). http://www.linux.com/feature/122197 Nick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] list image not showing properly LI
Hi Taco,
Have you got a link to the page you're trying to fix this on?
Regards,
John Hancock
Identity
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] list image not showing properly LI
Hello all,
I have a problem where the list image is not showing properly
form#search-main .li1 {
background: url(/_resource/image/form/step_1.gif) top left
no-repeat;
}
I realize this is not exactly assigning an image to the list item, but I
went down that path before, and it didn't work out either.
The problem I am having now is that in IE7 it doesn't display well when I
specify a height of 3em (see below) and the content is larger than that.
form#search-main li {
height: 3em;
padding: 0.5em 0 0.5em 50px;
clear: left;
}
The css is on
www.clickfind.com.au/_resource/style/layout/search/default.css
In the end I'll accept any suggestion that displays the numbered icons in
the same position they are now, but not causing problems elsewhere.
Thanks in advance..
clickfindT 1300 859 179
www.clickfind.com.au the new Australian search engine for businesses,
products and services .
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Re: [WSG] email abuse (OT)
This is not the appropriate forum to be raising these types of issues. There are plenty of places elsewhere from which you can find more information about spam detection and filtering. My suggestion would be to start with Google, as they are your particular email host. Cheers, -- Matt OneGeek http://www.onegeek.com.au On 12/7/07, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who would i notify about email abuse. someone is using my gmail address to spam for viagra? any help would be appreciated. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] email abuse (OT)
thanks, i just thought someone could point me in the proper direction. sorry for the off topic intrusion. dwain On Dec 6, 2007 7:46 PM, Matt Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not the appropriate forum to be raising these types of issues. There are plenty of places elsewhere from which you can find more information about spam detection and filtering. My suggestion would be to start with Google, as they are your particular email host. Cheers, -- Matt OneGeek http://www.onegeek.com.au On 12/7/07, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who would i notify about email abuse. someone is using my gmail address to spam for viagra? any help would be appreciated. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] list image not showing properly LI
Hello all,
I have a problem where the list image is not showing properly
form#search-main .li1 {
background: url(/_resource/image/form/step_1.gif) top left
no-repeat;
}
I realize this is not exactly assigning an image to the list item, but I
went down that path before, and it didn't work out either.
The problem I am having now is that in IE7 it doesn't display well when I
specify a height of 3em (see below) and the content is larger than that.
form#search-main li {
height: 3em;
padding: 0.5em 0 0.5em 50px;
clear: left;
}
The css is on
www.clickfind.com.au/_resource/style/layout/search/default.css
In the end I'll accept any suggestion that displays the numbered icons in
the same position they are now, but not causing problems elsewhere.
Thanks in advance..
clickfindT 1300 859 179
www.clickfind.com.au the new Australian search engine for businesses,
products and services .
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RE: [WSG] list image not showing properly LI
Hi John,
Sorry, forgot, it is www.clickfind.com.au
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Sent: Friday, 7 December 2007 11:57 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] list image not showing properly LI
Hi Taco,
Have you got a link to the page you're trying to fix this on?
Regards,
John Hancock
Identity
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Taco Fleur
Sent: Friday, 7 December 2007 12:51 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] list image not showing properly LI
Hello all,
I have a problem where the list image is not showing properly
form#search-main .li1 {
background: url(/_resource/image/form/step_1.gif) top left
no-repeat; }
I realize this is not exactly assigning an image to the list item, but I
went down that path before, and it didn't work out either.
The problem I am having now is that in IE7 it doesn't display well when I
specify a height of 3em (see below) and the content is larger than that.
form#search-main li {
height: 3em;
padding: 0.5em 0 0.5em 50px;
clear: left;
}
The css is on
www.clickfind.com.au/_resource/style/layout/search/default.css
In the end I'll accept any suggestion that displays the numbered icons in
the same position they are now, but not causing problems elsewhere.
Thanks in advance..
clickfindT 1300 859 179
www.clickfind.com.au the new Australian search engine for businesses,
products and services .
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[WSG] padding on the bottom ;-)
Hello all, I have this issue with two layouts that have some padding issue at the bottom. In internet explorer http://www.clickfind.com.au/browse-business-sub-category.cfm?categoryIdentit y=270 The results (the box above the filter) have this padding at the bottom which I can't seem to get rid of. Having the same issue with another layout, but in FireFox http://www.clickfind.com.au/ the 3 panels at the bottom of the page. Any help is appreciated. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
