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[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest
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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
images? On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwain, The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having difficulty with the image text. you're absolutely correct. i didn't realize at first they were images. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
if the pages with your picture on them aren't images, then your links at the bottom of the pages don't work. resend the link and let me have another look, please. dwain On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: images? On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwain, The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having difficulty with the image text. you're absolutely correct. i didn't realize at first they were images. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
the images are what fooled me at first. the state representative pages are images. all of the work you show on the page are images. that's why the text wouldn't size for me. i must agree with david that the font size could stand to be larger and a bit more contrast between the text color and the background color. dwain On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.laertjansen.com/site2 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the pages with your picture on them aren't images, then your links at the bottom of the pages don't work. resend the link and let me have another look, please. dwain On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: images? On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwain, The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having difficulty with the image text. you're absolutely correct. i didn't realize at first they were images. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
http://www.laertjansen.com/site2 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the pages with your picture on them aren't images, then your links at the bottom of the pages don't work. resend the link and let me have another look, please. dwain On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: images? On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwain, The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having difficulty with the image text. you're absolutely correct. i didn't realize at first they were images. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
I have not been really following this discussion, but he is using px for font sizes. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laert Jansen Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:55 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the images are what fooled me at first. the state representative pages are images. all of the work you show on the page are images. that's why the text wouldn't size for me. i must agree with david that the font size could stand to be larger and a bit more contrast between the text color and the background color. dwain On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.laertjansen.com/site2 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if the pages with your picture on them aren't images, then your links at the bottom of the pages don't work. resend the link and let me have another look, please. dwain On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: images? On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dwain, The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having difficulty with the image text. you're absolutely correct. i didn't realize at first they were images. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF you are using px for your font size. try using em or %. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
I don´t know what´s going on but using % the text looks much bigger in IE.. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 1:33 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF you are using px for your font size. try using em or %. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
Laert Jansen wrote: I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF I believe your question is in reference to your uri: http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/ /All/ browsers have the ability to scale fonts. Even Internet Explorer. The difficulty in IE is when a Web author sets the fonts in pixels, the user needs to put their browser into Accessibility mode, and check the ignore font sizes specified on Web pages box in order for them to scale (un-freeze, so to speak) the fonts. More user friendly Web authors size their fonts in percent or em rather than pixels. Trivial Pursuits: I don't understand why you top-post (write above those to whom you reply instead of below) and do not trim your replies as it makes it virtually impossible to follow a logical thread. Best, ~dL *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
Hello Laert; The rule below, set that to the percentage you want, as it is now, IE fixes it at 10px #biography p { font-size: 10px; line-height:1.0; margin: 8px 0 0 0; color: #999; } HTH ~Veine On 20 Feb 2008 at 12:54, Laert Jansen wrote: I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF This communication contains information from Vikberg.Net that may be confidential. Except for personal use by the intended recipient, or as expressly authorized by the sender, any person who receives this information is prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, and/or using it. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete it and all copies, and promptly notify the sender. Nothing in this communication is intended to operate as an electronic signature under applicable law. © 2008 Vikberg.Net. All rights reserved. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] RE: [WSG] Best Practice to Offer Different Formats of Documents
Alexey Novikov skrev: I use this pattern: a href=document.pdfTitle_of_This_Lengthy_Document/a, PDF, 1234kb I would suggest putting the abbreviation PDF and the size inside the a-element if anyone tabs from link to link with JAWS or anything similar. or with icon: a href=document.pdfimg src=pdf.gif alt=Download PDF /Title_of_This_Lengthy_Document/a, PDF, 1234kb I probably would have this image in CSS, aligned right or left and then add some padding right/left as well for it to show up. Now that IE7 supports attribute selectors most users will see it. If not I would go for an empty alt-attribute, since the purpose of the link is clear from the text. Lars Gunther *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
Hi Laert Jansen, Which IE are you using? IE7 uses different font rendering (ClearType), which makes fonts slightly larger and more bold. Try using em's. 1em is the equivalent of 16px. You can also use ems to 1 decimal place if you want to be more precise. e.g. h1 { font-size: 1em; } p { font-size: .8em; } Kind regards, Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/ http://www.munkyonline.co.uk T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laert Jansen Sent: 20 February 2008 16:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE I don´t know what´s going on but using % the text looks much bigger in IE.. On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 1:33 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF you are using px for your font size. try using em or %. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Laert Jansen www.laertjansen.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
Laert Jansen wrote: I don´t know what´s going on but using % the text looks much bigger in IE.. This is in reference to your uri : http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/ Change this declaration: body{ background-color:#000; font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif; margin: 0; padding:0; background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat; } to set default: body { background-color:#000; font: 100% Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif; margin: 0; padding:0; background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat; } Then change all selectors in the style sheet using 11px to 80%, and all selectors using 10px to 70% and you'll come out approximately the same cross-browser. If it appears significantly different (larger) in IE6 or IE7 it may be because you have the browser set at text-size larger or largest, rather than medium. Best, ~dL http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
Darren Lovelock wrote: Try using em's. 1em is the equivalent of 16px. You can also use ems to 1 decimal place if you want to be more precise. e.g. h1 { font-size: 1em; } p { font-size: .8em; } Kind regards, Darren Lovelock But be very careful if you use em's. You must declare percent on the body or html, otherwise you'll trigger a bug in IE that causes the fonts to go goofy when scaled. This is a method that /will/ work fine in IE when using em's: html {font-size: 100%;} body {font-size: 1em;} h1 {font-size: 1em;} p {font-size: 0.8em;} Best, ~dL *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Next meeting of Canberra IA Cocktail Hour
The Canberra IA Cocktail Hour is a monthly meeting of individuals interested in best practice (including standards) for information architecture, information design and user experience. The next Canberra IA Cocktail Hour is going to be held on Thursday 28 February from 5:30pm - 7:00pm. There will be two speakers: - Stephen Hall from acidlabs will talk about Integrated Administrative Design - Dane Buchardt from SMS Management Technology will walk us through a case study of a department coming to grips with e-learning. For more information, see the meeting notice on the Canberra IA Community blog (http://iacanberra.org/) or join our Yahoo! Group at http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/canberra_ia_community. Any queries about the Canberra IA Cocktail Hour should be directed to Andrew Boyd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope to see you there! Jessica Enders Director Formulate Information Design http://formulate.com.au Phone: (02) 6116 8765 Fax: (02) 8456 5916 PO Box 5108 Braddon ACT 2612 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Correction: Next meeting of Canberra IA Cocktail Hour
Correction: Stephen Hall is from SMSMT, not acidlabs. Apologies for any confusion. Jessica Enders Director Formulate Information Design http://formulate.com.au Phone: (02) 6116 8765 Fax: (02) 8456 5916 PO Box 5108 Braddon ACT 2612 Begin forwarded message: From: Jessica Enders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 21 February 2008 10:14:18 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Next meeting of Canberra IA Cocktail Hour The Canberra IA Cocktail Hour is a monthly meeting of individuals interested in best practice (including standards) for information architecture, information design and user experience. The next Canberra IA Cocktail Hour is going to be held on Thursday 28 February from 5:30pm - 7:00pm. There will be two speakers: - Stephen Hall from acidlabs will talk about Integrated Administrative Design - Dane Buchardt from SMS Management Technology will walk us through a case study of a department coming to grips with e-learning. For more information, see the meeting notice on the Canberra IA Community blog (http://iacanberra.org/) or join our Yahoo! Group at http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/canberra_ia_community. Any queries about the Canberra IA Cocktail Hour should be directed to Andrew Boyd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope to see you there! Jessica Enders Director Formulate Information Design http://formulate.com.au Phone: (02) 6116 8765 Fax: (02) 8456 5916 PO Box 5108 Braddon ACT 2612 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Business Directory review and comparison, usability, accessibility
Hello all, I've compiled a comparison and short review for 4 Australian Business Directories, the document can be downloaded from the link below http://australiansearchengine.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/business-directory-re view-and-comparison/ Yes, I own one of them, but I believe I stayed objective. The reason for posting here is to make sure it is objective, and I will take onboard any suggestions, additions, correct any information that is incorrect and will complete any missing information if provided. And I will also include (or even fix) any negative feedback for clickfind, if any. I'd also like to add more information about accessibility and usability to the document, which is also one of the reasons for posting here. I'd like to include the contact details and link in the document from people who are contributing to the document to make it more credible. Thanks. Kind regards, Taco Fleur _ clickfindT 1300 859 179 www.clickfind.com.au http://www.clickfind.com.au/ the new Australian search engine for businesses, products and services . *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE
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