Re: [WSG] :: Footer not resting at bottom of page ::

2008-04-22 Thread Сергей Кириченко
#wrapper {
  min-height:100%;
} is not enough
+
* html #wrapper {
  height:100%;
}
html, body{
  height:100%;
}
#footer {
  margin-top:-50px;/* margintop = -(this height)*/
}

2008/4/22, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  I have problem with the footer of my website: www.awayback.com it is not
 staying at bottom of the page. Things are fine in case of low
  resolution i.e. 1024x768 but in high resolution screens (1200x1024)
 footer is hanging mid way and not at bottom of the page.


 Hi Amrider,

 I would suggest adding another div id=wrapper around div
 id=masthead
 ... div id=footer with a min-height of 100%:

 div#wrapper {
 min-height: 100%;
 }

 This should keep the footer at the bottom of the page on short pages.

 Best regards,

 Kepler Gelotte
 Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
 www.neighborwebmaster.com
 phone/fax: (732) 302-0904
 




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Re: [WSG] :: Footer not resting at bottom of page ::

2008-04-22 Thread Сергей Кириченко
#wrapper {
  min-height:100%;
} is not enough
+
* html #wrapper {
  height:100%;
}
html, body{
  height:100%;
}
#footer {
  margin-top:-50px;/* margintop = -(this height)*/
}

and #wrapper around  #mastheader, #container and #secinfo, but you'll have
another problem - empty space between #secinfo and #footer

2008/4/22, Amrinder [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi,

 I have problem with the footer of my website: www.awayback.com it is not
 staying at bottom of the page. Things are fine in case of low resolution
 i.e. 1024x768 but in high resolution screens (1200x1024)  footer is hanging
 mid way and not at bottom of the page.

 Thanks in Advance.

 Kind Regards
 Amrinder
 Freelance Web Designer
 www.awayback.com

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RE: [WSG] :: Footer not resting at bottom of page ::

2008-04-22 Thread Tim MacKay
Hi Amrinder,

 

I would recommend this solution; it was given to me from a member of this
list a few months ago and worked great. 

 

http://dusan.fora.si/blog/how-to-move-that-footer-to-the-bottom

 

Best Regards,

Tim

 

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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] :: Footer not resting at bottom of page ::

 

#wrapper {
  min-height:100%;
} is not enough
+
* html #wrapper {
  height:100%;
}
html, body{
  height:100%;
}
#footer {
  margin-top:-50px;/* margintop = -(this height)*/
}

2008/4/22, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have problem with the footer of my website: www.awayback.com it is not
staying at bottom of the page. Things are fine in case of low
 resolution i.e. 1024x768 but in high resolution screens (1200x1024) 
footer is hanging mid way and not at bottom of the page.


Hi Amrider,

I would suggest adding another div id=wrapper around div id=masthead
... div id=footer with a min-height of 100%:

div#wrapper {
min-height: 100%;
}

This should keep the footer at the bottom of the page on short pages.

Best regards,

Kepler Gelotte
Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
www.neighborwebmaster.com
phone/fax: (732) 302-0904





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RE: [WSG] Form best practice

2008-04-22 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Jessica  others,

thank you very much for your contributions. This got me started really
well. 

We're now entering the process of reviewing the guidelines we'd like to
apply and some good and bad examples.

Cheers,
 
Jens 

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[WSG] Daniel Beckitt is out of the office.

2008-04-22 Thread daniel . b . beckitt

I will be out of the office starting  22/04/2008 and will not return until
23/04/2008.

I will respond to your message when I return.

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RE: [WSG] accessibility and brower compatibility for Kiosk mode?

2008-04-22 Thread michael.brockington
In a word, Yes.

Some people will try and drag the 'thumb' of the bar, which as I
mentioned last time may not be possible at all.
Others will just try and use the up and down arrows, which could be
painful for a long list, especially if the calibration of the
touchscreen is at all problematic (which it always is.)

So, if at all possible, split up long lists and find a way to present
them separately. 
Not sure what you are used to, but the ATM's over hear are typically
restricted to four 'soft-keys' down one side of the screen, and possibly
four more on the other side. This restricts you to just four (eight)
options per screen, plus a numpad, so you might want to check if there
is any chance that your design might need to work on one of these.

Regards,
Mike

 

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Kiosk mode?

Thank you Mike and steve,

One last question, will it be a problem to scroll this:
http://lotusseedsdesign.com/scroll.png
it's about the same size (width) as the checkbox, but I do have  
concern if it will be a problem to scroll up and down with finger.   
This also bring to my attention that I have never seen an ATM 
machine that has scrollbar.

tee


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[WSG] IE7 - content not displaying

2008-04-22 Thread Likely, James A.
Hello,

I am in the process of coding some templates for a client. Of course,
everything works well in Firefox, but IE7 is giving me some problems. 

The footer on the page is not appearing, but the space that it is meant
to hold the footer is present.  I know about the peek-a-boo effect for
IE, but this does not seem to be the case. Does any one have any
suggestions on how to fix this?

Example: http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/version2/research.php

Thanks for the help.

James




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RE: [WSG] IE7 - content not displaying

2008-04-22 Thread EBS Admin
 This is what you've got at the moment

 

 div class=clear-fix/div

  /div

  div id=page-footer-links

ul id=footer-links

  lia href=null.html id=footer-first-linkWisconsin History
Store/a/li

  lia href=null.htmlAbout Us/a/li

  lia href=null.htmlMedia Relations/a/li

  lia href=null.htmlGovernment Services/a/li

  lia href=null.htmlContact Us/a/li

/ul

  /div

/div

/body

/html

 

Try

 

  /div

  div class=clear-fix/div

  div id=page-footer-links

ul id=footer-links

  lia href=null.html id=footer-first-linkWisconsin History
Store/a/li

  lia href=null.htmlAbout Us/a/li

  lia href=null.htmlMedia Relations/a/li

  lia href=null.htmlGovernment Services/a/li

  lia href=null.htmlContact Us/a/li

/ul

  /div

/div

/body

/html

 

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Sent: 22 April 2008 14:20
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] IE7 - content not displaying

 

Hello, 

I am in the process of coding some templates for a client. Of course,
everything works well in Firefox, but IE7 is giving me some problems. 

The footer on the page is not appearing, but the space that it is meant to
hold the footer is present.  I know about the peek-a-boo effect for IE, but
this does not seem to be the case. Does any one have any suggestions on how
to fix this?

Example:  http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/version2/research.php
http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/version2/research.php 

Thanks for the help. 

James 

 


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RE: [WSG] IE7 - content not displaying

2008-04-22 Thread Darren Lovelock
Hi James,
 
I'm not sure but it may be because of the extra /li's here:
div id=idx-content-bottom

ul class=lower01

  li class=promo-section-01 img src=images/delete-lower.gif /

h3Ask an Expert/h3

Need help? We can help answer your questions! a
href=null.htmlSend us an email/a /li


  li class=promo-section-02img src=images/delete-lower2.gif /

h3National Register/h3

We manage the nomination process for listing WI Properties.. a
href=null.htmlLearn more /a /li

  /li

  li class=promo-section-03img src=images/delete-lower3.gif /

h3Share your project!/h3


John Doe is restoring his 1918 Victorian, a href=mull.htmlview
his project/a and share yours! /li

  /li

/ul

Darren Lovelock
Munky Online Web Design
 http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/ http://www.munkyonline.co.uk
T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893



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Hello, 

I am in the process of coding some templates for a client. Of course,
everything works well in Firefox, but IE7 is giving me some problems. 

The footer on the page is not appearing, but the space that it is meant to
hold the footer is present.  I know about the peek-a-boo effect for IE, but
this does not seem to be the case. Does any one have any suggestions on how
to fix this?

Example:  http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/version2/research.php
http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/version2/research.php 

Thanks for the help. 

James 



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Re: [WSG] IE7 - content not displaying

2008-04-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Likely, James A. wrote:


The footer on the page is not appearing, but the space that it is
meant to hold the footer is present.  I know about the peek-a-boo
effect for IE, but this does not seem to be the case. Does any one
have any suggestions on how to fix this?

Example: http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/version2/research.php


Start by adding a 'hasLayout'[1] trigger to the bottom-container, for
example...

#idx-content-bottom {height: 1%;}

That'll give IE/win something to hold on to when it tries to figure out
where to display the rest.


BTW: a div is 'display: block' by default, so all those 'display: block'
on divs is butter on fat that doesn't help any browser.

regards
Georg

[1]http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
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[WSG] h1 heading followed by h2 or introductory text?

2008-04-22 Thread kevin_erickson
Hello,
I have a page where the content starts with an h1 heading, followed by 
introductory information and this information is followed by h2 headings and 
their content. Is this compliant with web standards to have and h1 and an h2 
seperated by text or should the introductory text be prefaced with an h2? I am 
thinking of accessibility and do not want to cause problems for screen readers 
by breaking the outline of the page.

Thank you,

Kevin


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Re: [WSG] h1 heading followed by h2 or introductory text?

2008-04-22 Thread Ca Phun Ung

kevin_erickson wrote:

Hello,
I have a page where the content starts with an h1 heading, followed by 
introductory information and this information is followed by h2 headings and 
their content. Is this compliant with web standards to have and h1 and an h2 
seperated by text or should the introductory text be prefaced with an h2? I am 
thinking of accessibility and do not want to cause problems for screen readers 
by breaking the outline of the page.

  
Yes. h1 followed by some introductory paragraph text then h2 is 
totally compliant, accessible and won't cause any problems.


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RE: [WSG]

2008-04-22 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi Anat,

there is no tool that fully automates the process - too many issues need
manual inspection.

However, for what can be automated and what needs to be reported back to
a human reviewer we found TAW a good (and free) option.

http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/cms/en (see right hand side for download). 


Cheers,
 
Jens 

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Re: [WSG]

2008-04-22 Thread dwain
here's another tool for you.

http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/adesigner/download

hth,
dwain

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 Hi Anat,

 there is no tool that fully automates the process - too many issues need
 manual inspection.

 However, for what can be automated and what needs to be reported back to
 a human reviewer we found TAW a good (and free) option.

 http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/cms/en (see right hand side for download).


 Cheers,

 Jens

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RE: [WSG]

2008-04-22 Thread Kepler Gelotte
 Anyone know about a tool that automate the process of testing
 accessibility? any new good tool?

One I like is: http://www.sidar.org/hera/index.php.en

It is interactive and shows the area in question on your page. It has been
around for a while though.

Best regards,

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Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
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[WSG] accessible client side form validation

2008-04-22 Thread Casey Farrell

Hi,

Does anyone know of a free form validation javascript that is reasonably 
accessible? I realise that no client-side validation will be completely 
accessible without a server-side backup, but are there any good ones out 
there?


Thanks,
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Re: [WSG] accessible client side form validation

2008-04-22 Thread Matt Fellows
I humbly suggest my own:
http://www.onegeek.com.au/articles/programming/javascript-form-validation.php:)
Completely unobtrusive and requires only valid XHTML. If you have a little
bit of JS knowledge you can easily extend the functionality.

Cheers,

Matt

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 Does anyone know of a free form validation javascript that is reasonably
 accessible? I realise that no client-side validation will be completely
 accessible without a server-side backup, but are there any good ones out
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Re: [WSG] accessible client side form validation

2008-04-22 Thread tee
Yes, I second it, I implement it on a client's site and was very happy  
with until I found that it has problem in Safari 3.1 (552513) for the  
First Name, Last Name and Phone required fields - I had the fields  
entered correctly, but Safari kept telling me to 'correct the  
highlighted errors'.


It's probably a bug by Safari 3.1 (552513) because I had people tested  
for me in their Safari with different version, and they all worked.


I was forced to remove Matt's script as a result, and have the server- 
side validation.


tee


On Apr 22, 2008, at 8:58 PM, Matt Fellows wrote:
I humbly suggest my own: http://www.onegeek.com.au/articles/programming/javascript-form-validation.php 
 :)
Completely unobtrusive and requires only valid XHTML. If you have a  
little bit of JS knowledge you can easily extend the functionality.


Cheers,

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