R: [WSG] background image

[Diego La Monica]

Remember that the url(…) is relatve to the CSS file and not to the HTML
page.

 

Cheers.

 

Diego La Monica

Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità

mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica

web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it

 

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Da: Jason Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: lunedì 28 aprile 2008 4.58
A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Oggetto: RE: [WSG] background image

 

Would be something to do with the url address in your background image.

Check the path in your browser using your site url with
images/images/lets.gif  to see if it appears...

 

 

 

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Behalf Of Alexander Uribe
Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 12:37 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] background image

 

 
 
I have a problem with a background image.
 
When viewing the site on a number of browsers, the background image appears
fine.
However, recently the site went up and the background image has dissapeared.
 
Any ideas?
This is the CSS
 
body {
 background-color: #A816AD;
 margin: 0; padding: 0;
 background-image: url(images/images/lets.gif);
 background-repeat: repeat-y;
 width:1100px;
}
 
Cheers,

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Re: [WSG] IE6 width issue

[Al Sparber]

From: "Lynette Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 11:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 width issue



Thanks Al


You need min-width in addition to, or instead of, max-width. IE7 will 
be fine, along with other modern browsers.


For IE6 you need to use a script or a CSS expression to set min-width. 
You can google "ie6 min-width css expression". You should get lots of 
hits. If not, reply back and I'll give you one.
I have indeed already looked at using expressions and found it all a bit 
confusing so I resorted to not using max-width and substituting width: 
100%; it seems to be OK now. Thanks for the offer, though.
Re the #nav  breaking, is there any way around this?  I must confess I 
don't really worry about 640x480 anymore.


If it doesn't concern you than you are right to ignore it :-)

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Re: [WSG] IE6 width issue

[Lynette Smith]

Thanks Al


You need min-width in addition to, or instead of, max-width. IE7 will 
be fine, along with other modern browsers.


For IE6 you need to use a script or a CSS expression to set min-width. 
You can google "ie6 min-width css expression". You should get lots of 
hits. If not, reply back and I'll give you one.
I have indeed already looked at using expressions and found it all a bit 
confusing so I resorted to not using max-width and substituting width: 
100%; it seems to be OK now. Thanks for the offer, though.
Re the #nav  breaking, is there any way around this?  I must confess I 
don't really worry about 640x480 anymore.


Lyn

Lyn Smith

www.westernwebdesign.com.au

Affordable website design  Perth WA



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RE: [WSG] An efficient CSS architecture

[Paul Minty]

Jens,

I worked up something for www.iasbet.com which was reasonably robust.
This was before we adopted the Yahoo YUI for our in-house development.

I'd suggest you create separate CSS files and workflows for a creative
workgroup and a development workgroup (content.css and controls.css) as
both departments will want to release unique controls and content
elements that won't be able to pick up the existing styles. This will
relieve pressure on the framework CSS files.

I'd suggest that CSS be added to a project and validated before going
out, and use ID to isolate areas where you can. You should be able to
clean out the content.css and controls.css files periodically.

The multiple stylesheets are a concern, but your base framework can be
combined and compressed and served from somewhere else as others have
suggested.

You can do much the same for the javascript too.

Cheers
Paul

Paul Minty Director

mintleaf studio 
We design & create stylish websites

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> Subject: [WSG] An efficient CSS architecture
> Importance: Low
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm currently in the lucky position to be able to design a 
> CSS architecture from scratch. I was thinking of creating a 
> layered approach where I have a CSS layer for
> 
> - the CSS reset
> - the site layout (structural parts, ie. columns, rows, 
> header, footer)
> - the site's elements (boxes which can be reused across 
> pages; a box might contain images, heading, paragraphs)
> - the site's skin (colours, sprites etc.)
> 
> I'd like to know if you have been through this thought 
> process and if you have proven concepts that you would like to share.
> 
> (You can email me offline too, but we've got a long weekend 
> here so I'll contact you Monday.)
> 
> Thank you!
> 
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Re: [WSG] IE6 width issue

[Lynette Smith]

I was wondering if it was anything to do with the max-width I have on 
#container and #nav as I know IE6 does not recognise  max-width.
I have changed "max-width: 80em" to "width: 100%" and also changed the 
width of #main from 69% to 59%.  This seems to have fixed all the issues 
in IE6 except the #nav breaking at 640x480.





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Re: [WSG] IE6 width issue

[Al Sparber]

From: "Lynette Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

A client is still having issues with his site  www.bourkebridgeinn.com.au. 
I asked him to send me a screenshot:


http://www.westernwebdesign.com.au/test/screenshot.jpg

It seems to be a problem only in IE6 at a screen resolution of 800x600


It breaks to 2 lines in all browsers if you make the window width such that 
all those items will not fit.


I was wondering if it was anything to do with the max-width I have on 
#container and #nav as I know IE6 does not recognise  max-width.


You need min-width in addition to, or instead of, max-width. IE7 will be 
fine, along with other modern browsers.


For IE6 you need to use a script or a CSS expression to set min-width. You 
can google "ie6 min-width css expression". You should get lots of hits. If 
not, reply back and I'll give you one.


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http://www.projectseven.com
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RE: [WSG] background image

[Jason Gray]

Would be something to do with the url address in your background image.

Check the path in your browser using your site url with
images/images/lets.gif  to see if it appears...

 

 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alexander Uribe
Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 12:37 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] background image

 

 
 
I have a problem with a background image.
 
When viewing the site on a number of browsers, the background image appears
fine.
However, recently the site went up and the background image has dissapeared.
 
Any ideas?
This is the CSS
 
body {
 background-color: #A816AD;
 margin: 0; padding: 0;
 background-image: url(images/images/lets.gif);
 background-repeat: repeat-y;
 width:1100px;
}
 
Cheers,

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[WSG] background image

[Alexander Uribe]

 
 
 
I have a problem with a background image.
 
When viewing the site on a number of browsers, the background image appears 
fine.
However, recently the site went up and the background image has dissapeared.
 
Any ideas?
This is the CSS
 
body { background-color: #A816AD; margin: 0; padding: 0; background-image: 
url(images/images/lets.gif); background-repeat: repeat-y; width:1100px;}
 
Cheers,
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[WSG] IE6 width issue

[Lynette Smith]

Good morning

A client is still having issues with his site  
www.bourkebridgeinn.com.au.  I asked him to send me a screenshot:


http://www.westernwebdesign.com.au/test/screenshot.jpg

It seems to be a problem only in IE6 at a screen resolution of 800x600 
and lower.  The #header  does not fit the full width of the container on 
the left hand side as it should and neither does the #nav.   Although it 
cannot be seen in the screenshot, the footer is also far too high.At 
a resolution of 640x480, the #nav also breaks.


I was wondering if it was anything to do with the max-width I have on 
#container and #nav as I know IE6 does not recognise  max-width.


Kind regards

Lyn


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Re: [WSG] Spam mail got through? ADMIN

[kate]

Thanks Russ and Andrew,
I will keep your mail Russ as the help link is in the mail you sent.
Kate
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Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:04 PM
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ADMIN

Apologies to all for this post. The person responsible for the email has
been removed from our list.

As Andrew says, please let us know if you have problems rather than post 
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Thanks
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on 28/4/08 5:36 AM, kate at wrote:


Hi I just got an e-mail from:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear friend
We  mainly sell electrical product .
such as digital cameras,
mobile,LCD TV,xbox, Laptops,DV,Mp4, GPS,
and so on.All items come with 12month international warranty .
If you want to buy something ,
please contact us freely ,

It looked suspeciously like spam to me. Has it come from WSG?
Kate


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Re: [WSG] Spam mail got through? ADMIN

[russ - maxdesign]

ADMIN

Apologies to all for this post. The person responsible for the email has
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As Andrew says, please let us know if you have problems rather than post to
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on 28/4/08 5:36 AM, kate at wrote:

> Hi I just got an e-mail from:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Dear friend
> We  mainly sell electrical product .
> such as digital cameras,
> mobile,LCD TV,xbox, Laptops,DV,Mp4, GPS,
> and so on.All items come with 12month international warranty .
> If you want to buy something ,
> please contact us freely ,
> 
> It looked suspeciously like spam to me. Has it come from WSG?
> Kate
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Re: [WSG] Spam mail got through?

[Andrew Freedman]

Probably  best to send this to Member help rather than to the list.  
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Andrew


kate provided the following information on 28/04/2008 5:36 AM:

Hi I just got an e-mail from:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear friend
   We  mainly sell electrical product .
such as digital cameras,
mobile,LCD TV,xbox, Laptops,DV,Mp4, GPS, and so on.All items come with 
12month international warranty . If you want to buy something ,

please contact us freely ,

It looked suspeciously like spam to me. Has it come from WSG?
Kate 




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[WSG] Spam mail got through?

[kate]

Hi I just got an e-mail from:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear friend
   We  mainly sell electrical product .
such as digital cameras,
mobile,LCD TV,xbox, Laptops,DV,Mp4, GPS, 
and so on.All items come with 12month international warranty . 
If you want to buy something ,

please contact us freely ,

It looked suspeciously like spam to me. Has it come from WSG?
Kate


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Re: [WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

[Stuart Foulstone]

Your problem is probably because your CSS converts the normally inline
span elements to floating block elements.


On Sun, April 27, 2008 10:41 am, Naveen Bhaskar wrote:
> hi,
>
> I have a table like this. Each table cell has two values which has put
> inside a span. I want this two values come horizontally... now its coming
> as
> two lines...
>
> how can i show this values in a single line. I cant set any value as width
> for the TD since its dynamically created value. the TD shouls stretch
> according to the contents...
>
> pls help.
>
> thanks in advance..
>
> 
> 
>  valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
> 
>  
>   valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
> 
>  
>   valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
>   valuevalue
> 
> 
> 
>
> .price, . discount  {
>  display:block;
>  float:left;
> }
> --
> navii
> -
> thanks and regards
> Naveen Bhaskar Menon
>
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Re: [WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

[Сергей Кириченко]

and more. for TD {white-space:nowrap;}

Naveen Bhaskar пишет:


hi,
 
I have a table like this. Each table cell has two values which has put 
inside a span. I want this two values come horizontally... now its 
coming as two lines...
 
how can i show this values in a single line. I cant set any value as 
width for the TD since its dynamically created value. the TD shouls 
stretch according to the contents...
 
pls help.
 
thanks in advance..
 



 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 




 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 




 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 




 
.price, . discount  {

 display:block;
 float:left;
}
--
navii
-
thanks and regards
Naveen Bhaskar Menon


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Re: [WSG] premature to test/worry new site for IE8?

[Anders Nawroth]

Hi!

Ben Buchanan skrev:
My take on this is you cannot *really* code for a browser that's not 
released yet. Alpha/Beta/pre-release versions simply are not the same as 
final versions.


My experience from IE7 beta releases in a nutshell:
* bugs changed between betas
* no bugs I encountered (and found workarounds for) in betas existed in 
the final release
* a new bug was introduced in the final version, breaking the navigation 
completely for the sites I was working on ...


The cheapest solution is to work with existing software, so coding for 
IE8 now is a bad idea in my opinion. Any work on finding workarounds for 
IE8 at this stage may be a waste of time.


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Re: [WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

[Designer]

Will this not work for you:



 value
 class="discount">value
 value
 class="discount">value

 . . .
etc . .


??

Bob



hi,
 
I have a table like this. Each table cell has two values which has put 
inside a span. I want this two values come horizontally... now its 
coming as two lines...
 
how can i show this values in a single line. I cant set any value as 
width for the TD since its dynamically created value. the TD shouls 
stretch according to the contents...
 
pls help.
 
thanks in advance..
 



 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value



 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value



 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value
 valueclass="discount">value



 
.price, . discount  {

 display:block;
 float:left;
}
--
navii
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thanks and regards
Naveen Bhaskar Menon


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Re: [WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

[Сергей Кириченко]

just delete {display:block;float:left;} and enjoy
maybe add {display:inline} and enjoy

Naveen Bhaskar пишет:


hi,
 
I have a table like this. Each table cell has two values which has put 
inside a span. I want this two values come horizontally... now its 
coming as two lines...
 
how can i show this values in a single line. I cant set any value as 
width for the TD since its dynamically created value. the TD shouls 
stretch according to the contents...
 
pls help.
 
thanks in advance..
 



 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 




 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 




 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 

 value  value 




 
.price, . discount  {

 display:block;
 float:left;
}
--
navii
-
thanks and regards
Naveen Bhaskar Menon


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Re: [WSG] premature to test/worry new site for IE8?

[Ben Buchanan]

> I am about to start coding for a new site, and client asked me to make
> sure my code will work for IE8, meaning when IE 8 comes out, she doesn't
> need to pay me extra to fix any problem that may occur in IE 8. Client is
> from a web media company, though I understand her concerns and that she has
> to answer to her client, but I just don't know how or if I should commit to
> such 'expectation'.
> Last time with IE 7, there was no problem and none of the sites I coded
> for her break when  IE 7 came out. I think this version targeting thing
> really got people worry.
> Say, I code my CSS with best practice just like I'd always do, and treat
> IE browsers with CC should it be needed. Do I need to worry anything with
> IE8? It didn't occur to me to worry anything at all until client was making
> this request.
>

My take on this is you cannot *really* code for a browser that's not
released yet. Alpha/Beta/pre-release versions simply are not the same as
final versions.

There's a slight difference in this case because you do have a safety net -
if the site works in IE7, but truly goes pear shaped in IE8, you can version
switch it back to
IE7. But, that's a first ever situation and I would not change my
dealings with a client on that basis.


As an ongoing client relations precedent I'd suggest that you do not commit
to making something work in a browser that's not in final release. Reassure
them that you will code to best practice; ensure any conditional comments
are version tagetted appropriately (do not use "if IE", always use something
like "if IE lte 7" or "if IE 6"); mention that version switching is a safety
net; do test in beta browsers but don't guarantee the final release.

If their site ultimately needs work due to a new browser release, that's
part of the cost of ownership of a web presence. You can agree to minimise
the risk, but you can't guarantee the site won't need work in IE8's final
version.

Hope that helps :)

-Ben

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Re: [WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

[Bob Schwartz]

Why don't you take the stying off the spans, give the table 100% width  
and see what happens.


Bob



hi,

I have a table like this. Each table cell has two values which has  
put inside a span. I want this two values come horizontally... now  
its coming as two lines...


how can i show this values in a single line. I cant set any value as  
width for the TD since its dynamically created value. the TD shouls  
stretch according to the contents...


pls help.

thanks in advance..



 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>



 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>



 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>
 valuevaluespan>




.price, . discount  {
 display:block;
 float:left;
}
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Re: [WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

[Krystian - Sunlust]

Hi,

Not 100% sure about it, but try

.price, .discount  {
 display: inline;
 float:left;
}

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[WSG] div/span inside table cell problem

[Naveen Bhaskar]

hi,

I have a table like this. Each table cell has two values which has put
inside a span. I want this two values come horizontally... now its coming as
two lines...

how can i show this values in a single line. I cant set any value as width
for the TD since its dynamically created value. the TD shouls stretch
according to the contents...

pls help.

thanks in advance..



 valuevalue

  valuevalue

  valuevalue

  valuevalue


 
  valuevalue

  valuevalue

  valuevalue

  valuevalue


 
  valuevalue

  valuevalue

  valuevalue

  valuevalue




.price, . discount  {
 display:block;
 float:left;
}
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Naveen Bhaskar Menon


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RE: [WSG] help with background color

[Stuart Foulstone]

Why The Fuss?


On Fri, April 25, 2008 9:28 pm, Rick Faircloth wrote:
> Chill, out... and watch the language...
>
> Rick
>
>> -Original Message-
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>> On Behalf Of ?? ?
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 3:54 PM
>> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
>> Subject: Re: [WSG] help with background color
>>
>> wtf!
>> wrap name in some elemnts/ and give it needed bg
>>
>> wtf!
>>
>> Laert Jansen пишет:
>> >
>> > Hello everyone!
>> >
>> > I am looking for some help here. I want to apply a background to the
>> > names of the "clients" on my website (www.laertjansen.com
>> > )
>> >
>> > I did it to the text on the top ..there´s a black
>> > background..and I want a blue bg on the client´s name but its
>> > not working. How do I do this?
>> >
>> > I attached an image to show what I want to do
>> >
>> > Thanks a lot!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> > www.laertjansen.com 
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