RE: [WSG] PHP Standards
The php site - php.net is always a good place to start for php There are often some good snippets to be found in user comments too Its not as good as it was a couple of years ago though, as they seem to have removed a lot of useful stuff that you could do in pure php because they can now be done by extensions (often needing php to be recompiled to install - very annoying!) Still a good place to start though... *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
I seem to remember someone in a previous thread, about similar problem, suggested using, display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; On Sat, May 17, 2008 3:39 pm, Darren Lovelock wrote: Hi list, I've been trying to find a solution that will allow me to vertically center all the items in a li. The big problems i've got are that the li's are a non-fixed height and are floating to the left. So that kills the negative http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html positioning method and the table-cell http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/center#vertical methods that I've found whilst scouring the web. Does anyone know a method that I can use that doesn't involve using tables? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Regards, Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/ T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Thanks, but as I said, that doesn't work in this case because the li is floating. Also I think it is dependant on the the li having a set height value which I cant do either. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: 18 May 2008 10:01 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li I seem to remember someone in a previous thread, about similar problem, suggested using, display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; On Sat, May 17, 2008 3:39 pm, Darren Lovelock wrote: Hi list, I've been trying to find a solution that will allow me to vertically center all the items in a li. The big problems i've got are that the li's are a non-fixed height and are floating to the left. So that kills the negative http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html positioning method and the table-cell http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/center#vertical methods that I've found whilst scouring the web. Does anyone know a method that I can use that doesn't involve using tables? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Regards, Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/ T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Shouldn't have to set a height, the line will wrap automatically (unless you specify not to). Thanks, but as I said, that doesn't work in this case because the li is floating. Do the li's have to float? On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Darren Lovelock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but as I said, that doesn't work in this case because the li is floating. Also I think it is dependant on the the li having a set height value which I cant do either. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: 18 May 2008 10:01 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li I seem to remember someone in a previous thread, about similar problem, suggested using, display: table-cell; vertical-align: middle; On Sat, May 17, 2008 3:39 pm, Darren Lovelock wrote: Hi list, I've been trying to find a solution that will allow me to vertically center all the items in a li. The big problems i've got are that the li's are a non-fixed height and are floating to the left. So that kills the negative http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html positioning method and the table-cell http://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/center#vertical methods that I've found whilst scouring the web. Does anyone know a method that I can use that doesn't involve using tables? Any help will be greatly appreciated! Regards, Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/ T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Matt Fellows http://www.onegeek.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Hi Matt, No worries. Still missing it though! Text-align:center will align the elements horizontally centered. I want to align the elements INSIDE the li to be vertically centered to the height of the li. So there is an even space above and below each of the elements inside the li. At the moment they are sticking close to the top of the li. I cant use a top margin because the list is used more than once in the page and the li's each have different heights. % value for margin-top seem to use the document height and not the height of the li. Basically I want to achieve the same effect as valign: middle in a table cell. I just can find a logical solution that will work with a non-fixed height container. It's looking to me like it cant be done without a table! I wonder if there is a way of doing this with javascript? Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Fellows Sent: 18 May 2008 02:58 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li Sorry Darren - it was late an i was tired! Vertical/Horizontal, Left/Right... I don't think there is a need to do anything too exciting, the container of the list should just need a text-align:center. Is this basically what you are after? I have made the div only 300px wide so you get the wrapping effect which I think is what is causing the grief. div.container{text-align:center; width:300px} div.container ol li{list-style-type:none; } div class=container ol li class=elem label for=dnameDisplay Name:/label input type=text id=dname class=tinput / /li li class=desc pInformation about preview box etc. If it is more than two lines or ## characters link to./p spana href=learn more/a/span /li /ol /div The list items will be centered. If you have multiple columns you can just place them next to each other. Or am i still missing something? -- Matt Fellows http://www.onegeek.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
lol I think I will leave this one alone, I think i'm making you're job more difficult instead of the other way around! Please do send through your solution when you find it so I can have that 'light bulb' moment. Cheers, -- Matt Fellows http://www.onegeek.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Darren, On 17-May-08, at 8:09 PM, Darren Lovelock wrote: I've been trying to find a solution that will allow me to vertically center all the items in a li. The big problems i've got are that the li's are a non-fixed height and are floating to the left. A link to a stripped down test would be helpful. However, if you can't post a link, perhaps one of the links below will be helpful to you? Best, - Rahul. [1] http://www.brunildo.org/test/ [2] http://www.brunildo.org/test/vertmiddle.html [3] http://www.brunildo.org/test/valimid2.html [4] http://www.brunildo.org/test/va_lineheight.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Yeah it is a bit of a tricky one lol! Looks like this is one example where tables are better for layout! Thanks very much for taking a look though :) Darren -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Fellows Sent: 18 May 2008 13:09 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li lol I think I will leave this one alone, I think i'm making you're job more difficult instead of the other way around! Please do send through your solution when you find it so I can have that 'light bulb' moment. Cheers, -- Matt Fellows http://www.onegeek.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Darren, Try assigning a line-height and a height to the li, and make the two the same. Jo On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Darren Lovelock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah it is a bit of a tricky one lol! Looks like this is one example where tables are better for layout! Thanks very much for taking a look though :) Darren -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Fellows Sent: 18 May 2008 13:09 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li lol I think I will leave this one alone, I think i'm making you're job more difficult instead of the other way around! Please do send through your solution when you find it so I can have that 'light bulb' moment. Cheers, -- Matt Fellows http://www.onegeek.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Sounds like you can only change the CSS and not the (x)HTML, is that correct? You're also floating the li's... that puts them behind eachother right? Would displaying them inline help? On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Viable Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren, Try assigning a line-height and a height to the li, and make the two the same. Jo On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Darren Lovelock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah it is a bit of a tricky one lol! Looks like this is one example where tables are better for layout! Thanks very much for taking a look though :) Darren -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Fellows Sent: 18 May 2008 13:09 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li lol I think I will leave this one alone, I think i'm making you're job more difficult instead of the other way around! Please do send through your solution when you find it so I can have that 'light bulb' moment. Cheers, -- Matt Fellows http://www.onegeek.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Cant set a height on the li, tried it though to see what would happen and it didnt work. Playing with line-height isnt the right way to fix this. Thanks anyway. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viable Design Sent: 18 May 2008 14:24 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li Darren, Try assigning a line-height and a height to the li, and make the two the same. Jo On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Darren Lovelock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah it is a bit of a tricky one lol! Looks like this is one example where tables are better for layout! Thanks very much for taking a look though :) Darren -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Fellows Sent: 18 May 2008 13:09 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li lol I think I will leave this one alone, I think i'm making you're job more difficult instead of the other way around! Please do send through your solution when you find it so I can have that 'light bulb' moment. Cheers, -- Matt Fellows http://www.onegeek.com.au/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Here's a example of what I'm doing http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/test.html I want the li's to behave the same as table cells set with valign:middle. I've had to float the li's left instead of displaying them inline otherwise they stack on top of each other in a mess! I suppose looking at it I could have used divs instead of a list but either way, I think it will still behave the same. Cheers, Darren -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rahul Gonsalves Sent: 18 May 2008 13:46 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li Darren, On 17-May-08, at 8:09 PM, Darren Lovelock wrote: I've been trying to find a solution that will allow me to vertically center all the items in a li. The big problems i've got are that the li's are a non-fixed height and are floating to the left. A link to a stripped down test would be helpful. However, if you can't post a link, perhaps one of the links below will be helpful to you? Best, - Rahul. [1] http://www.brunildo.org/test/ [2] http://www.brunildo.org/test/vertmiddle.html [3] http://www.brunildo.org/test/valimid2.html [4] http://www.brunildo.org/test/va_lineheight.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***