Re: [WSG] best practices for using access keys
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Gonzalo González Mora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:25 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dwain, You might find this article interesting: http://www.rnib.org.uk/wacblog/articles/too-much-accessibility/too-too-much-accessibility-accesskeys/ Make sure you read the comments, theres' some really good info there. thanks gonzalo, i'll give it a read. cheers, dwain -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] best practices for using access keys
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tjkdesign.com/articles/user_defined_accesskeys.asp thanks thierry, i know this will be a good one. cheers, dwain -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] best practices for using access keys
i'm slowly bringing my web site up to better accessibility standards and i have a few more things to do like add a skip nav link and access keys. Before you add accesskeys, check out http://www.wcagsamurai.org/errata/errata.html#GL9 ... basically the errata captures best practice methodology as it evolved in the years after WCAG 1.0 was released. Accesskeys are problematic between browsers and other software so in general I think the concensus is to concentrate on making the site accessible and usable without custom keyboard controls. eg. rather than an accesskey for your site's search box, use your skip menu to provide a jump link at the start of the document (and not everyone will agree with me even on that point ;)). It's kind of similar to the whole issue of tabindex - don't use it, instead make sure the natural tab order is logical. Same general principle. cheers, Ben -- --- http://weblog.200ok.com.au/ --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] best practices for using access keys
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:55 AM, Ben Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before you add accesskeys, check out http://www.wcagsamurai.org/errata/errata.html#GL9 hoo hah, that's some pretty heavy stuff. what an eye opener. i guess i've done about all i can do except for a skip nav to content link. i've used all the accessibility tools at my disposal and i seem to be in compliance. i guess you can't cover all of the accessibility bases for everybody, but you can be as accessible as you can be. thanks for the great read. cheers, dwain -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] paypal shopping cart and valid code
has anyone experienced invalid code with paypal's shopping cart? if you did have validation problems was it easy to fix and still get to the cart? i'm getting ready to implement it on my site and this has me a bit concerned. -- Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Accessible Forms using WCAG 2.0- an interesting article by Roger Hudson
Hi Folks, In case you are interested... Roger Hudson has written a detailed article called Accessible Forms using WCAG 2.0. The article provides practical advice about the preparation of accessible HTML forms. http://www.usability.com.au/resources/wcag2/ More importantly, it compares the WCAG 1.0 accessibility requirements relating to forms with those contained in WCAG 2.0. There are also a selection of movies where Andrew Downie demonstrate screen readers in action on specific aspects of forms. The videos are embedded in the article, as well as available here: Label and titles http://dotsub.com/view/9787ebec-941f-4e04-a5dc-f6ed7fde7247 Forms in datatables http://dotsub.com/view/b885eaad-5397-4db6-9970-ee39f51ed7ab Fieldset, Legend and nested fieldsets http://dotsub.com/view/0064d19b-a8da-4729-86f7-a45aaa5bdd57 Form errors and corrections http://dotsub.com/view/9276a7d3-cca5-4285-9a5d-89b21c0f9e57 Dynamically populated JavaScript Select Menu http://dotsub.com/view/4e2b28d0-4c13-4e98-8ce3-b380ef4be710 Show and hide form sections: http://dotsub.com/view/1cb6c35a-fc12-4f90-8faa-b5490d87ac2d Thanks Russ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Google chrome...
I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order to run. To be able to kill locked up tabs or windows without having to kill the browser sounds like a nice feature to me ... about time! First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew on me. Very uncluttered. And drop down menus consolodate a lot of screen real estate. Well designed gui, all its needs now is firebug and id use it. And i like the incognito windows, thats a slick feature. I hope they fix the bug that prevents me from saving those thumbnails it generates. What use is that feature if I can't save them? ..and yes I'll still want Firebug and Operator ! *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Google chrome...
On 6 Sep 2008, at 04:12, Marius Milcher wrote: Has anyone noticed how Hotmail is 'unavailable' in Chrome?? Recommending one upgrades to either: IE, FF or Safari. Could this be a snub by Microsoft?? Innocent browser compatability issue? What's the opinion? Seconds out...Round 3 They block themselves too. Google has a history of browser sniffing and blocking browsers such as Opera. On Google groups for example, they block Opera, Safari *and* Chrome when trying to change your profile photo. I'm sure there are other examples too as the block Opera on many sites. It's an example why browser sniffing is so bad. Not only is it often used to block browsers that would otherwise be capable, but you never know when a new browser will come out (even from your own company). 2008/9/5 Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because that is an intentional part of the way the system is designed. Read the comic for all the details http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/index.html Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Nancy Gill wrote: One thing I have noticed today is that it creates 3 different processes in the Task Manager to run one coyp of chrome. I have tested this several times with the Task Manager open and everytime I open the browser, I add three processes all named chrome. They vary from 5mb to 44mb of memory usage. I can't figure out why it has to load the process three times in order to run. Nancy - Original Message - From: kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Google chrome... First i thought it felt unfinished, but then the minimal design grew on me. Very uncluttered. And drop down menus consolodate a lot of screen real estate. Well designed gui, all its needs now is firebug and id use it. And i like the incognito windows, thats a slick feature. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3416 (20080904) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- -- Marius G. Milcher Web Design IT Consultancy -- w: http://www.mariusmilcher.com e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: +44(0)7961 436 733 skype: mgmilcher -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** David Storey Chief Web Opener, Product Manager Opera Dragonfly, Consumer Product Manager Opera Core, W3C Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group member Consumer Product Management Developer Relations Opera Software ASA Oslo, Norway Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://my.opera.com/dstorey *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Google chrome...
They block themselves too. Google has a history of browser sniffing and blocking browsers such as Opera. On Google groups for example, they block Opera, Safari *and* Chrome when trying to change your profile photo. I'm sure there are other examples too as the block Opera on many sites. It's an example why browser sniffing is so bad. Not only is it often used to block browsers that would otherwise be capable, but you never know when a new browser will come out (even from your own company). Yes its funny watching this common scenario with large organisations.. one department is often not aware of what another department is doing until they start getting complaints from the public about something not working! ...most likely it has something to do with the browser-specific javascript quirks you are likely to come across when trying to build those fancy drag'n'drop user interfaces. Do they have an alternate way to change that photo that doesn't use javascript? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
