[WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute
Hi Guys, A client wants to use Adobe Contribute for content management. Is there any point writing standards complient code or will contribute butcher the code anyway? Can I use php at all with contribute? Would love to be able to include html files using php to avoid having to change loads of pages everytime navigation changes etc. James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute
Hi James, If you start with a standards compliant dreamweaver template and define the editable regions then Contribute should be able to play nice. Any php code that is NOT part of the editable regions will also be safe. If you are not using dreamweaver then there are additional steps that you will need to take to create template based files that work with Adobe Contribute. Gerard C. Greenidge Manager, Web Services California State University, Office of the Chancellor 401 Golden Shore Long Beach, CA 90802 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 562-951-4466 - Desk 562-519-2639 - Mobile -Original Message- From: James Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: 11/1/08 6:56 AM Subject: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute Hi Guys, A client wants to use Adobe Contribute for content management. Is there any point writing standards complient code or will contribute butcher the code anyway? Can I use php at all with contribute? Would love to be able to include html files using php to avoid having to change loads of pages everytime navigation changes etc. James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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[WSG] Re: Standards and Adobe Contribute
James Further to Gerard's reply - if you would like a sample of a Contribute template working with php, contact me off list jay * From: James Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 13:53:44 + Subject: Standards and Adobe Contribute Hi Guys, A client wants to use Adobe Contribute for content management. Is there any point writing standards complient code or will contribute butcher the code anyway? Can I use php at all with contribute? Would love to be able to include html files using php to avoid having to change loads of pages everytime navigation changes etc. James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute
Hi James Oddly, someone asked a similar question today in LinkedIn. http://www.linkedin.com/answers/technology/web-development/TCH_WDD/355859-15475515 Contribute is not about content management and you should never let the client specify the technology, that's YOUR job The technology you decide to deploy should be a result of having defined the strategy and scope of a project and identified the resources for ongoing content and support. It may be possible to use PHP for what you say, but maybe you wan to look at SHTML instead for server side scripting. I understand Dreamweaver is better with PHP than it used to be but it can easily go pear shaped if the client is not either severely restricted or understands HTML well. Expectations may be shattered if the client has seen a sales pitch of Adobe Contribute and thinks they can do what they like with a page. Then they'll want the template modified when they can't then the IA gets messed up, then the nav needs changing, then they don't realise it's better to add news rather than replace it (for SEO) an the meta no longer gels with the page content I could go on Contribute is not about content management as much as it is about allowing an in-house web team to share tasks without a proper CMS deployed. Thus your coder can code and the content writer can write but it can be all wrapped within a team. This is, frankly, Web 1.0, and your time and their money is better served by getting a simple CMS deployed that meets with their scope and strategy and will be easier to manage for everyone, client included. joe On 02/11/2008, at 12:53 AM, James Farrell wrote: Hi Guys, A client wants to use Adobe Contribute for content management. Is there any point writing standards complient code or will contribute butcher the code anyway? Can I use php at all with contribute? Would love to be able to include html files using php to avoid having to change loads of pages everytime navigation changes etc. James *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 (0)434 047 804 http://www.typingthevoid.com http://twitter.com/wheelyweb http://www.linkedin.com/in/jortenzi Skype:wheelyweb *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute
Joe Ortenzi wrote: Contribute is not about content management as much as it is about allowing an in-house web team to share tasks without a proper CMS deployed. Thus your coder can code and the content writer can write but it can be all wrapped within a team. This is, frankly, Web 1.0, and your time and their money is better served by getting a simple CMS deployed that meets with their scope and strategy and will be easier to manage for everyone, client included. With respect, this is so much bollocks. The manner of deployment is always the client's choice. If you can offer her something better, by all means offer, but it's arrogant to tell the client you have to do it this way. Many clients won't have an in-house web team - they'll have one person to whom maintaining the website is only 1/4 of their job. Some outfits are still coming to grips with how they should be using the web and need baby steps. While it's a designer's job to help educate them, you can't drag them kicking and screaming into something they're not ready for. Regards Mark Harris *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
