Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?
Yes you can use the IE6 PNG filter. However note that IE6 implementations before the service packs will not support this either. And yes there are major installations of IE6 on these older subversions of IE6. This used to trip me up all the time. To the point that I no longer bother, just replacing the PNG in IE6 with the GIF. All park of the not for perfect experience for IE6 users. -- Gary Barber User Experience Designer/ Web Architect Web: radharc.com.au blog: manwithnoblog.com Zain Ansari wrote: Hi Mike, A simple solution for IE6 PNG support is _*HTML Code:*_ div class=iePng_logo id=ieBg img src=images/logo_png.png class=ieHide //div _*CSS Code:*_ .iePng_logo {filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/logo_png.png',sizingMethod='scale'); width:307px; height:34px;} .iePng {filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='images/screenshot.png',sizingMethod='scale'); width:438px; height:230px;} .ieHide {border:0 solid #fff; _display:none;} #ieBg {border:0;} You can check its working demo from the following URL, Check top left logo in all browsers its transparent PNG, you can save it and check its transparency http://expertsdesk.net/novotech/ From: b...@bendodson.com To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable? Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:31:15 +0100 Only if they are PNGs with alpha transparencies - these are not supported in IE6 amongst others (although there are hacks). If it's just a straightforward image, then PNG will be absolutely fine. Ben --- *e:* b...@bendodson.com mailto:b...@bendodson.com *w:* http://bendodson.com/ Feeling social? Connect with me on various social networks at http://social.bendodson.com/ - You might also want to follow me on Twitter at http://twitter.com/bendodson On 27 Apr 2009, at 10:46, Mike Kear wrote: I’m looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I’m building, and rather than convert them all to gifs, I was thinking of leaving them as the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but I’m wondering what everyone else’s experience has been of using .pngs in web pages. Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some browsers and not in others. Is this still a relevant issue? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org mailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] IE6 support [was: PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?]
Yes you can use the IE6 PNG filter. However note that IE6 implementations before the service packs will not support this either. And yes there are major installations of IE6 on these older subversions of IE6. This used to trip me up all the time. To the point that I no longer bother, just replacing the PNG in IE6 with the GIF. All park of the not for perfect experience for IE6 users. One of the main (only?) arguments for supporting IE6, is to provide a somewhat decent experience for corporate users who dont have the luxury of upgrading the browser. The argument against the upgrade is that corporate web-tools will fail after the upgrade; then using an argument that those tools cant be rewritten as the company doesn't have coders on staff. This argument is circular, either a) the company has the coders available to create the IE6-specific tool and thus can upgrade the tool to use a later version of the browser, or b) they dont have coders and thus they couldn't have developed the IE6-specific product. My $0.02... dont stress about backwards compatibility for IE6... it the site needs IE6 support, do that work last - you can then at least get paid for it. cheers, Mathew Robertson *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox Ignoring Stylesheets
That is real strange. i am on a mac and see the same thing. what about trying to do css import instead of including trough link meta? i think i did this at http://slipper-shop.nl/ On Apr 29, 2009, at 7:50 PM, CK wrote: Hi, Well aware this is not a Firefox forum, but FF 3.0.9 in OS X 10.5.6 is ignoring both print and screen stylesheets for the following: http://www.markboulton.co.uk/examples/guardian/ Has anyone a suggestion? CK *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE6 support [was: PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?]
On 2009/04/30 21:43 (GMT+1000) Mathew Robertson composed: This argument is circular, either a) the company has the coders available to create the IE6-specific tool and thus can upgrade the tool to use a later version of the browser, or b) they dont have coders and thus they couldn't have developed the IE6-specific product. Or, they had access to coders who provided them only binaries without source code, and those coders are no longer available, with the result that the custom application would have to be rewritten from scratch by other coders to work properly with other browsers. This scenario is a common price one pays for dependence on closed source software. -- He who works his land will have abundant food, but the one who chases fantasies will have his fill of poverty. Proverbs 28:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox Ignoring Stylesheets
The following reply is from a forum where the problem was posted: After not being able to get this out of my head, I reproduced the page and put it up here; http://six03.com/lab/guardian After validating the page and placing the scripts in one js folder, it works. I think it was either the double quote at the end of the div (an error fixed by validating the page), the scripts not being current Question or the validation part, it appears to be okay now. I'll have to pinpoint the problem and see what was up. EDIT: I think it is a problem with the scripts. they're not all there (see source code for scripts) One even points to a 404. The invalid code makes no difference. On Apr 30, 2009, at 2:38 AM, Kay in t Veen wrote: That is real strange. i am on a mac and see the same thing. what about trying to do css import instead of including trough link meta? i think i did this at http://slipper-shop.nl/ On Apr 29, 2009, at 7:50 PM, CK wrote: Hi, Well aware this is not a Firefox forum, but FF 3.0.9 in OS X 10.5.6 is ignoring both print and screen stylesheets for the following: http://www.markboulton.co.uk/examples/guardian/ Has anyone a suggestion? CK *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox Ignoring Stylesheets
http://www.markboulton.co.uk/examples/guardian/ Your problem is neither markup-related nor script-related. It definitely stems from the wrong media type of the Style Sheets, as others have already pointed out. Test it yourself: http://cgi.w3.org/cgi-bin/headers?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markboulton.co.uk%2Fexamples%2Fguardian%2Fcss%2Fscreen.css The media type is text/html instead of text/css Cheers, jens -- Jens Brueckmann http://www.yalf.de *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***