Re: [WSG] Online shop package recommendations please.
Hi Hedley, I've recently used Prestashop - http://www.prestashop.com/ - and i am very satisfied with it!!! PHP E-commerce framework - its an Open source solution with really supportive community..give it a try! Web Standards compliant XHTML - CSS Many frameworks (*wouldnt like to name them*;) still make use of *table*tags to style Content.. ..so do your research before you choose one ;) Best Regards Dennis Karampinis 2009/10/17 hed...@digitalessence.net hed...@digitalessence.net Hi, I'm in the process of quoting a few ecommerce packages/websites and currently looking at opencart (for a free and non supported solution) and JShop for a more pro supported version. Does anyone have any packages that they recommend? http://www.opencart.com/ http://www.jshop.co.uk/index I'm not requiring bar codes or EPOS integration so need to keep it simple. thanks. Hedley Phillips Digital Essence T: 01306 627 128 M: 07940 508 417 E: hed...@digitalessence.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Online shop package recommendations please.
On Oct 18, 2009, at 12:58 AM, dionisis karampinis wrote: Hi Hedley, I've recently used Prestashop - http://www.prestashop.com/ - and i am very satisfied with it!!! PHP E-commerce framework - its an Open source solution with really supportive community..give it a try! Web Standards compliant XHTML - CSS I have heard many positive things about Prestashop, curious to know if Prestashop works with JS switches off, or the JS codes are progressive enhancement? Unlike Magento which is not and near impossible to get rid off. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Re: More than one H1?
Agree with pretty much everything below. There seems to be no compelling reason to wrap the logo in a H1but there seems to be no compelling reason not to. I'm probably swaying towards not wrapping the logo in a H1 any moreI doubt it will have much effect on SEO anyway. One final point regarding this topic... *Google wraps their logo in a H1* http://www.google.com.au/#hl=ensource=hpq=searchbtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq=searchfp=2b6a54a9ce7131a8 I need a coffee... * Christian Fagan * Fagan Design * fagandesign.com.au * p: (+613) 9314-1841 Darren Lovelock wrote: Enough Darren bashing LOL My apologies for attacking so head-on but it looked to me that your only intention was to attempt to boost your website rankings and that is something that Google definitely advises against - build websites for your visitors and not the search engines. You mind telling me which of the websites you referenced include more than one H1? That's what this discussion is about right? Also most of them had a lot of html errors so not exactly good examples of great web design. Apart from the BBC website of course - great website ;) You said that you would include an H1 wrapped around the logo AND and an additional H1 didn't you? You wanted to know its effect on SEO? Multiple H1's dilute the relevance of the page and if stuffed with keywords will only hinder a websites rankings rather than help them. That is why the SEO you spoke to would recommend to use just *one* H1. http://www.searchenginejournal.com/seo-checklist-using-page-headings-correctly/7723/ The reason why designers have had a need to place an H1 around the logo is because the H1 should be first in a documents heading structure, it was to comply with WCAG guidelines. Due to multiple column layouts a H2 could easily come before the H1. Read more here - http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200901/headings_heading_hierarchy_and_document_outlines/ Your reason however was because you believe the logo to be of equal importance as the H1 lower down the page (for rankings?), not to meet accessibility guidelines. My opinion is a logo is not a heading, it is a logo. I agree however there should be a tag to give the logo more precedence on the page but a heading is not the correct tag. A *logo* is a graphical element (ideogram http://www.answers.com/topic/ideogram, symbol http://www.answers.com/topic/symbol, emblem http://www.answers.com/topic/emblem, icon http://www.answers.com/topic/icon, sign http://www.answers.com/topic/sign) that, together with its *logotype* (a uniquely set and arranged typeface http://www.answers.com/topic/typeface) form a trademark http://www.answers.com/topic/trademark or commercial brand http://www.answers.com/topic/brand. Typically, a logo's design is for immediate recognition.^[1] http://www.answers.com/logo#cite_note-wheeler_dbi_pg4-0 The logo is one aspect of a company's commercial brand http://www.answers.com/topic/brand, or economic or academic entity, and its shapes, colors, fonts, and images usually are different from others in a similar market. Logos are also used to identify organizations and other non-commercial entities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo By using microformats or the RDFA doctype you can identify the logo in a vcard along with your company details. Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/ T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Re: More than one H1?
Hi Christian, Google also use table layout for their pages, inline styles, don't use labels with input fields and so on. The fact that they use H1 around the logo just shows that they don't require SEO work. ;-) So your mention of Google using H1 around the logo does not illustrate anything. Thanks, Jason On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Christian Fagan c...@fagandesign.com.auwrote: Agree with pretty much everything below. There seems to be no compelling reason to wrap the logo in a H1but there seems to be no compelling reason not to. I'm probably swaying towards not wrapping the logo in a H1 any moreI doubt it will have much effect on SEO anyway. One final point regarding this topic... *Google wraps their logo in a H1* http://www.google.com.au/#hl=ensource=hpq=searchbtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq=searchfp=2b6a54a9ce7131a8 I need a coffee... - Christian Fagan - Fagan Design - fagandesign.com.au - p: (+613) 9314-1841 Darren Lovelock wrote: Enough Darren bashing LOL My apologies for attacking so head-on but it looked to me that your only intention was to attempt to boost your website rankings and that is something that Google definitely advises against - build websites for your visitors and not the search engines. You mind telling me which of the websites you referenced include more than one H1? That's what this discussion is about right? Also most of them had a lot of html errors so not exactly good examples of great web design. Apart from the BBC website of course - great website ;) You said that you would include an H1 wrapped around the logo AND and an additional H1 didn't you? You wanted to know its effect on SEO? Multiple H1's dilute the relevance of the page and if stuffed with keywords will only hinder a websites rankings rather than help them. That is why the SEO you spoke to would recommend to use just *one* H1. http://www.searchenginejournal.com/seo-checklist-using-page-headings-correctly/7723/ The reason why designers have had a need to place an H1 around the logo is because the H1 should be first in a documents heading structure, it was to comply with WCAG guidelines. Due to multiple column layouts a H2 could easily come before the H1. Read more here - http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200901/headings_heading_hierarchy_and_document_outlines/ Your reason however was because you believe the logo to be of equal importance as the H1 lower down the page (for rankings?), not to meet accessibility guidelines. My opinion is a logo is not a heading, it is a logo. I agree however there should be a tag to give the logo more precedence on the page but a heading is not the correct tag. A *logo* is a graphical element (ideogramhttp://www.answers.com/topic/ideogram, symbol http://www.answers.com/topic/symbol, emblemhttp://www.answers.com/topic/emblem, icon http://www.answers.com/topic/icon, signhttp://www.answers.com/topic/sign) that, together with its *logotype* (a uniquely set and arranged typefacehttp://www.answers.com/topic/typeface) form a trademark http://www.answers.com/topic/trademark or commercial brand http://www.answers.com/topic/brand. Typically, a logo's design is for immediate recognition.[1]http://www.answers.com/logo#cite_note-wheeler_dbi_pg4-0The logo is one aspect of a company's commercial brand http://www.answers.com/topic/brand, or economic or academic entity, and its shapes, colors, fonts, and images usually are different from others in a similar market. Logos are also used to identify organizations and other non-commercial entities. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo By using microformats or the RDFA doctype you can identify the logo in a vcard along with your company details. Darren Lovelock Munky Online Web Design http://www.munkyonline.co.uk T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Online shop package recommendations please.
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