[WSG] First stab at html5

2009-12-31 Thread designer
If any of you guys are around at this time, I'd be really grateful if you 
could have a look at:


http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelanmor.html

It is very simple stuff, but I'd be interested if you could see anything 
'wrong'/undesirable/not semantic etc.  For example, is it OK to put a menu 
inside a nav?  Is the flash embedded properly?


(http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/flash/flashpage.html)

embed src=gwelanmor2010.swf type=application/x-shockwave-flash 
width=596 height=375/ It seems to work . . .


All comments gratefully received.

Thanks,

Bob 






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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

2009-12-31 Thread Rob Crowther

designer wrote:
If any of you guys are around at this time, I'd be really grateful if 
you could have a look at:


http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelanmor.html

It is very simple stuff, but I'd be interested if you could see anything 
'wrong'/undesirable/not semantic etc.  For example, is it OK to put a 
menu inside a nav?  Is the flash embedded properly?



 (http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/flash/flashpage.html)

I think menu is supposed to be a widget/app element rather than a 
simple list of links, and using it might cause some unexpected 
consequences down the road.  From 
http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/interactive-elements.html#menus-intro 
:


The menu element is used to define context menus and toolbars.

See also the picture below In a supporting user agent, this might look 
like this.  Just a regular ul would be fine for navigation elements.


But http://html5.validator.nu/ thinks both pages are OK, and they look 
the same in Firefox 3.5 and IE7, so it seems to be good.


Rob



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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

2009-12-31 Thread David Laakso

designer wrote:
If any of you guys are around at this time, I'd be really grateful if 
you could have a look at:


http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelanmor.html


All comments gratefully received.


Bob






Nice.  Clean. Simple. Opera, Safari, FF, IE 6/7/8.

Very helpful site for html 5 questions.
http://html5doctor.com/

aside
trivial pursuits having nothing to do with what you wrote about:
You may want to ditch the rivers.
If of any concern whatsoever, right column float drop at less than 800.
Page needs a background-color (I default to fuchsia in Opera to catch 
myself).

/aside

Best,
~d


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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

2009-12-31 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, designer wrote:

 If any of you guys are around at this time, I'd be really grateful if you
 could have a look at:
 
 http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelanmor.html

   The yellow background doesn't suit the page.

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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

2009-12-31 Thread designer

Thanks to those who responded.

@David: rivers?  Duh. Please explain. It is New Years Eve, after all!
@Chris - I've set a white background, so I hope your yellow one has gone 
now!

@Rob:


- Original Message - 
From: Rob Crowther robe...@boogdesign.com



The menu element is used to define context menus and toolbars.


This is exactly the sort of consideration that I find a bit confusing at 
this stage. I, in my ignorance, considered it to be just that.  Duh?


Have a good New Year!

Bob





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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

2009-12-31 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/12/31 17:46 (GMT) designer composed:

 @David: rivers?  Duh. Please explain.

David mentions this time and again on all the design/CSS mailing lists. It's
about word spacing and justification:
http://www.westciv.com/style_master/academy/css_tutorial/properties/text_layout.html
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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

2009-12-31 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, designer wrote:

 @Chris - I've set a white background, so I hope your yellow one has gone now!

   It's still yellow.

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[WSG] RE: your previous message

2009-12-31 Thread Samuel . Santana

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Re: [WSG] First stab at html5

2009-12-31 Thread David Laakso

designer wrote:

Thanks to those who responded.

@David: rivers?  Duh. Please explain. It is New Years Eve, after all!



RE:
http://www.betasite.fsnet.co.uk/gam/altgam/gwelanmor.html
  
It is a term used in typography.


Think of a block of text as you would a piece of fine tapestry. On your 
home page,  squint' your eyes at that text block and you'll see the 
rivers cascading  down the tapestry. Still don't see it? Take a screen 
shot of the text-block and literally rotate in photoshop so that is 
upside down-- and you'll see the rivers. Justified text is sometimes 
quite nice in print media when done by a typographer really knows her 
stuff. I would not attempt to stay awake nights waiting for Web software 
to catch up. In the meantime, reset to flush left/scatter right. CSS: 
text-align: left; This will dry up the rivers and the text will be 
easier to read. A different font stack and honoring user default rather 
than your personal preference could also be a nice touch, too.


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