Re: [WSG] IE ignores MIME type

2010-04-12 Thread Luke Hoggett

Hi,

SSI header working on IE8 on Win7, sorry no time to check out other IEs

cheers
Luke

On 12/04/2010 3:53 PM, David Hucklesby wrote:

A student at a Web design course asked me how to include a common
heading on all his pages without copy and pasting into each. I walked
him through the process of making a Server-Side Include.

  http://webwiz.robinshosting.com/jaime/

This is a demo I made for him. The view source is named with a .txt
suffix, and sent as Content Type text/plain. But Internet Explorer,
alone among my browsers, insists on displaying the two files containing
HTML as if they were text/html.

Oddly, IE 7 will display the included file as intended on page
refresh. All other IE versions stubbornly refuse. Any ideas how to get
IE to play nice, please?

Thank you for your time.

Cordially,
David



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Re: [WSG] IE ignores MIME type

2010-04-12 Thread David Hucklesby

On 4/11/10 11:52 PM, Luke Hoggett wrote:

Hi,

SSI header working on IE8 on Win7, sorry no time to check out other
IEs

cheers Luke

On 12/04/2010 3:53 PM, David Hucklesby wrote:

A student at a Web design course asked me how to include a common
heading on all his pages without copy and pasting into each. I
walked him through the process of making a Server-Side Include.

http://webwiz.robinshosting.com/jaime/

This is a demo I made for him. The view source is named with a
.txt suffix, and sent as Content Type text/plain. But Internet
Explorer, alone among my browsers, insists on displaying the two
files containing HTML as if they were text/html.


[...]

Interesting. I'm using Windows XP. Even more worrisome that the OS could
make a difference...

Thanks for the feedback, Luke.

I love standards - there are so many to choose from.

Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] IE ignores MIME type

2010-04-12 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, David Hucklesby wrote:

 A student at a Web design course asked me how to include a common
 heading on all his pages without copy and pasting into each. I walked
 him through the process of making a Server-Side Include.
 
   http://webwiz.robinshosting.com/jaime/
 
 This is a demo I made for him. The view source is named with a .txt
 suffix, and sent as Content Type text/plain. But Internet Explorer,
 alone among my browsers, insists on displaying the two files containing
 HTML as if they were text/html.
 
 Oddly, IE 7 will display the included file as intended on page
 refresh. All other IE versions stubbornly refuse. Any ideas how to get
 IE to play nice, please?

   Rename the file index.txt instead of index.html.txt

   Firefox used to do the same thing, IIRC.

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   Author:
   Pro Bash Programming: Scripting the GNU/Linux Shell (2009, Apress)
   Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)


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Re: [WSG] IE ignores MIME type

2010-04-12 Thread David Hucklesby

On 4/12/10 11:41 AM, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote:

On Sun, 11 Apr 2010, David Hucklesby wrote:


A student at a Web design course asked me how to include a common
heading on all his pages without copy and pasting into each. I walked
him through the process of making a Server-Side Include.

   http://webwiz.robinshosting.com/jaime/

This is a demo I made for him. The view source is named with a .txt
suffix, and sent as Content Type text/plain. But Internet Explorer,
alone among my browsers, insists on displaying the two files containing
HTML as if they were text/html.

Oddly, IE 7 will display the included file as intended on page
refresh. All other IE versions stubbornly refuse. Any ideas how to get
IE to play nice, please?


Rename the file index.txt instead of index.html.txt



Done. Same results. Any other ideas?

Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] IE ignores MIME type

2010-04-12 Thread Doug Burt
David,

A quick check located this in your new index.txt file...

[code]

div id=sidebar
  h2View Source/h2
  ul
lia href=index.html.txtThis page/a/li
lia href=header_shtml.txtIncluded file/a/li
lia href=htaccess.txt.htaccess/a/li
  /ul
/div!-- #sidebar --
[/code]You may want to change that url as well as adding a correct doctype 
declaration to the pages, even for a demo version...Cheers,Doug Burt- 
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From: David Hucklesby huckle...@gmail.com
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2010-04-12 Thread Peter Larsen
Er ikke tilstede, da jeg detlager i EGINS årlige konference.Er tilbage den 19. 
april/I am attending the EGIN anual conference, but i am back on April the 19th 

Med venlig hilsen/best wishes
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Re: [WSG] IE ignores MIME type

2010-04-12 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 12 Apr 2010, at 06:53:46, David Hucklesby wrote:

 This is a demo I made for him. The view source is named with a .txt
 suffix, and sent as Content Type text/plain. But Internet Explorer,
 alone among my browsers, insists on displaying the two files containing
 HTML as if they were text/html.

This MSDN article 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms775147(VS.85).aspx explains how 
Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, chose to break the web because they know 
so much better than those who wrote the RFCs. Basically, they chose to assume 
that text/plain was probably wrong in most cases (which might have been a 
real problem around 1997, but not one they should have taken it upon themselves 
to fix in this way), and instead examine the content to see if it might be 
something else. As in this case it looks like HTML, IE ignores the server and 
treats it as HTML.

This post on the IE blog 
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/02/01/364581.aspx explains that, when 
they tried to fix things in XP SP2, they found that the damage they had caused 
was so widespread that they had to abandon the fix (despite the fact that this 
content sniffing can be a serious security issue). They offer no useful 
solution.

This article on the subject from Google 
http://code.google.com/p/doctype/wiki/ArticleContentSniffing has little to 
suggest either.

Sorry I can't help, but with that information perhaps somebody can come up with 
a workaround.

Regards,

Nick.
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