Re: [WSG] more usable forms
I have never heard of the label tag. This article is quite useful. It is true - every detail matters once you get to a certain level of web development. I guess the label tag also mets conformance standards since the text that used to float around without a semantically defined purposenow can be inside the tag, which defines it to label the input element. - Original Message - From: Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sydney Web Standards Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:42 PM Subject: [WSG] more usable forms Nice article on making forms a bit nicer. http://www.sitepoint.com/article/1273 Cheers Mark -- Mark Stanton Technical Director Gruden Pty Ltd Tel: 9956 6388 Mob: 0410 458 201 Fax: 9956 8433 http://www.gruden.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] XHTML: Labels, Image Maps, and Flash
Thanks James, Mark, and Viktor for all the information about the forms! I'm learning so much from this mailing group - it's amazing. I just have a question though. Though I'm fairly certain the label, fieldset, and legend tags would be supported in future versions of XHTML, are they going to (or even currently) support attributes such as accesskey or tabindex? because accesskey does not seem all that important, and i feel like it is one of the things on its way to deprecation. even the fieldset/legend seems a little shaky. grouping input fields is good i guess, but i fear w3c might even deem that unnecessary. a lot of things about xhtml has been bothering me, including image maps and flash validation. it's been a while so i forget exactly what the problem was with the image map, but i was using xhtml 1.1 and validation was impossible (something to do with the pound symbol #?) when there were image maps - it was fine with xhtml 1.0. besides that problem, the only way i can get flash to validate is to use the Flash Satay method decribed at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/. does anyone have inside information on the w3c - are they doing to do anything about these issues? reading the w3 mailing list articles (several months ago when i had these problems) did not help very much as they were in constant debate and i could not come to a conclusion forgive me if i seem completely oblivious and ask unnecessary questions. i never fail to repeat - i am no professional in these things. complete newb. thankyou for your patience. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS [Virus checkedAU]
Ohh... no wonder it wasn't on W3Schools or W3.org. Thankyou - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS [Virus checkedAU] This email is to be read subject to the disclaimer below. Hi Andrew, The alpha filter is part of a whole horrible proprietary extension to CSS given to us by microsoft - and even the way they implemented it was not in keeping with CSS standards. CSS3 has (or will have) support for the opacity attribute which does the same thing - and is currently implemented in mozilla (in the correct way for prorietary extentions) i.e. -moz-opacity: 50%; When CSS3 becomes a standard you will then mozilla will change this attribute to opacity and you'll be able to search your code for -moz-opacity and all will be hunky dory. However, the IE method will effectively exlude the use of an filter attribute in the CSS standards as if it (or something like it) is ever implemented then it may not work the same way as IE has implemented it. Regards, Mark Lynch Development Manager - Business Innovation Online Ernst Young - Australia http://www.eyware.com/ http://www.eyonline.com/ Direct: +612 9248 4038 Fax: +612 9248 4073 Mobile: +61 421 050 695 Andrew Cheong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] i.com cc: Subject: [WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS [Virus checkedAU] 19/01/2004 03:59 PM Please respond to wsg Why does the CSS filter for alpha opacity not work in Mozilla (1.4, 1.5, 1.6)? Look at http://www.xdemi.com/music/main.php?s=funp=links on I.E. - notice the background of the front window is transparent. In Mozilla and Netscape, it does not do this... I am an amateur designer - guess I never introduced myself here, but I'm glad to be here. I've only recently turned 16 years old, but I'm very interested in web design and even more in learning. I am very meticulous and support web standards all the way (although I have given up trying to conform with WAI standards haha) Anyway, I hope someone will be able to inform me of what stupid mistake I am making that does not allow this filter to work. NOTICE - This communication contains information which is confidential and the copyright of Ernst Young or a third party. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies and telephone Ernst Young on 1800 655 717 immediately. If you are the intended recipient of this communication you should not copy, disclose or distribute this communication without the authority of Ernst Young. Any views expressed in this Communication are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Ernst Young. Except as required at law, Ernst Young does not represent, warrant and/or guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that the communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. Liability limited by the Accountants Scheme, approved under the Professional Standards Act 1994 (NSW) * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] A few links for the week...
Actually, your first link about CSS Filters... might help me on the problem that I addressed before about CSS Filters not being supported by Mozilla or Netscape... thank you in advance! - Original Message - From: russ weakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web Standards Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 3:01 PM Subject: [WSG] A few links for the week... CSS Hacks and Filters http://www.dithered.com/css_filters/index.html A pencil image made out of CSS http://www.designdetector.com/tips/csspencils.php Common XHTML Validation Errors http://www.blackwidows.org.uk/resources/tutorials/xhtml/common-errors.html Validation and error handling - from a browser developers perspective: The whole reason nearly all Web pages on the Internet are malformed is because browsers let Web page authors get away with it http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/archives/2004_01.html#004702 Thanks Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Rave or Valid point
Title: Rave or Valid point Well, what you're saying is true, but the buttons are obviously clickable. People know that. As opposed to text links, where people might not know they are clickable until the cursor changes. I guess you do have a point. - Original Message - From: Taco Fleur To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:20 PM Subject: [WSG] Rave or Valid point What do you reckon, a Rave or Valid point? http://www.tacofleur.com/index/blog/archive/2004/01/?141800 Tell me and I will forgetShow me and I will rememberTeach me and I will learn
[WSG] CSS Filter (Alpha Opacity) on MZ/NS
Why does the CSS filter for alpha opacity not work in Mozilla (1.4, 1.5, 1.6)? Look at http://www.xdemi.com/music/main.php?s=funp=linkson I.E. - notice the background of the "front window" is transparent. In Mozilla and Netscape, it does not do this... I am an amateur designer - guess I never introduced myself here, but I'm glad to be here. I've only recently turned 16 years old, but I'm very interested in web design and even more in learning. I am very meticulous and support web standards all the way (although I have given up trying to conform with WAI standards haha) Anyway, I hope someone will be able to inform me of what stupid mistake I am making that does not allow this filter to work.
Re: [WSG] Small bug
However, I believe it is {border: none;} as opposed to {border: 0;}
Maybe it works both ways, or maybe things have changed. Correct me if I am
wrong.
- Original Message -
From: Lindsay Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 7:45 PM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Small bug
Universal Head wrote:
A small bug I can't seem to track down:
http://universalhead.com/clients/jands/
There's padding around the nav links that only appears in Mozilla and
I can't seem to work out why ...
Looks to me like you just need border=0 on the images (or .nav a img
{border: 0;} if you're that way inclined)
Much obliged y'all. Hey, and work in progress exhibited on this list
is confidential, right?
Well, considering that the list is archived at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/
I'd guess not...
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Re: [WSG] XHTML/CSS standards guide
It looks good! I've been writing in XHTML for a year or so now, simply because I heard it was going to replace HTML and I was afraid of being left behind. I've read several tutorials on XHTML before I gave up trying to figure out the difference. Each tutorial seemed to be too vague. Your What Is XHTML tutorial just cleared everything up for me. Thanks! (I joined this group a few days ago. This is my first reply. I'm not sure if I'm doing it right - I just went to reply after reading Ryan's email and here I am, sending this. Hopefully it will work.) - Original Message - From: Ryan Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web Standards Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: [WSG] XHTML/CSS standards guide Hey guys, I've been working on writing a learners guide to XHTML / CSS composition and usage which is intended for beginners. It's going to be used to help train new employees that come to work for the design company within my university (http://medialab.jmu.edu). My boss is interested in implementing standards compliance in our produced websites, and it'll be important that people like our graphic designers and new coders know what's going on and start to get in the habit of standards. This will be an ongoing project. As of right now, there are just three pages published. If you have the time and want to give it a breeze through (experts and novice alike) and let me know what's good, what's bad, what's not clear, and what is glaringly incorrect I'd appreciate it :) link: http://web.theward.net/whatisxhtml.html Ryan http://www.theward.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
