Re: [WSG] page problems
It would have been better to give a link. From what you've provided no one knows what your directory structure is From looking at your code make sure the css and javascript files are being accessed correctly. Like, are your folders really one folder back from the source file recursively, could be something that simple. Marvin Hunkin wrote: HI. doing a web project. and just modifying it on my hard disk. the following problems i have in internet explorer 8 include: 1. my table not showing up. 2. my styles in the style sheet not showing up. can any one help. a blind web site developer using a screen reader. will paste the content of my page from text pad text editor below. if any one can help me out let me know. cheers Marvin. !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; head meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 / titleJoes Fruit and Vegetable Shop/title link href=../styles/joe_style.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css / script language=JavaScript type=text/javascript src=../javascript/fruit.js /script /head body div id=banner h1Joes Fruit and Vegetable Shop/h1 /div div id=content class=content hr / h2Today's Specials/h2 pPhone 1800-Joe-Fruit/p hr / table tr td img src=../images/mango.png align=left alt=Mango / Large juicy tropical Queensland mangoes, ideal for letting the juice drip down your chin as you eat them! /td td$1.99 each./td /tr tr td img src=../images/Mushrooms.jpg align=right alt=Mushrooms / Delicious champignon mushrooms, perfect for the French cooking you do so well /td td$3.99 / kg./td /tr tr td img src=../images/strawberry.jpg align=left alt=Strawberry / Punnet of hydroponic strawberries. Exquisite taste, mouth watering; perfect with French vanilla ice-cream. /td td$2.99 a punnet./td /tr tr tdimg src=../images/tomatoes.jpg align=right alt=Tomatoes / Hydroponic tomatoes, vine ripened, juicy and red: they taste like old-fashioned tomatoes your mother used to serve! /td td$7.99 a tray (approx. 3 kg)./td /tr /table hr / pTodays specials are all available now at:/p pJoes Fruit Shop/p p55 Main Road/p pAnytown 2999/p pPhone: 9555-9876/p pFor phone orders: 1800-Joe-Fruit/p p a href=mailto:i...@joes.com.au?subject=joe's Website Query target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()E-Mail Joe Bashir/a /p hr / div id=nav1 class=nav1 p a href=index.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Home/a a href=produce.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()All Produce/a a href=recipes.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Recipes/a a href=staff.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Staff/a a href=history.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()History/a a href=search.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Search/a a href=links.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Fruit And Vegetable Links/a a href=vegetable.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Fruit And Vegetable Recipes/a /p /div/div div id=nav class=nav p img src=../images/fruit_banana.jpg alt=Open Banana / /p p a href=index.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Home/a /p p img src=../images/banana.jpg alt=Closed Banana / /p p a href=produce.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()All Produce/a /p p img src=../images/banana.jpg alt=Closed Banana / /p p a href=recipes.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Recipes/a /p p img src=../images/banana.jpg alt=Closed Banana / /p p a href=staff.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Staff/a /p p img src=../images/banana.jpg alt=Closed Banana / /p p a href=history.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()History/a /p p img src=../images/banana.jpg alt=Closed Banana / /p p a href=search.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Search/a /p p img src=../images/banana.jpg alt=Closed Banana / /p p a href=links.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Fruit And Vegetable Links/a /p p img src=../images/banana.jpg alt=Closed Banana / /p p a href=vegetable.html target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut()Fruit And Vegetable Recipes/a/p p a href=http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer; target=_top onmouseover=mouseOver() onmouseout=mouseOut() Valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional/a /p /div /body /html E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com Msn: startrekc...@msn.com Skype: startrekcafe Visit my Jaws Australia Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help:
Re: [WSG] OT: Dominos Pizza - Looking for someone who's worked there
Easiest way. Order a Pizza from them, then when the delivery person arrives, refuse to pay until they answer you question. You'll have your answer in about 30 mins, hehe. Mike Kear wrote: This is off-topic for this list so please respond direct to me rather than the list ... I'm looking to have a quick chat to someone who's worked at Dominos Pizza some time in the last 5 years - not necessarily in the IT area - even someone who's delivered pizzas would do. But if you've worked there or know something of how they operate, I'd be grateful if you could contact me. (Just being a customer isn't enough - I am too) I need to ask a fairly basic question about an aspect of their operations - I wont be asking you to break any confidences and its not for any competing project. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia 0422 985 585 02-4577-4898 Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks Pty Ltd http://afpwebworks.com Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Possible layout problems with using this CSS code?
Nope not at all, actually it can help solve element problems down the
track. I use it myself.
Brett Patterson wrote:
Would using:
* {
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
border: 0;
}
before the body to zero out all margins, paddings and borders, cause
any accessibility problems or any problems one should be made aware of
before using it for layout?
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Brett P.
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Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
Personally I think this is just another Microsoft attempt at trying to enforce what it believes the Standards should be. I too, spent several minutes trying to fix problems in ie8, when my wife noticed the main business's site not displaying properly, then she noticed the compatibility button next to the address bar in ie8 and it all worked fine. Tatham Oddie wrote: Tee, IE8 is shown as a Windows Update. If you're in Uninstall or Change Programs, make sure you have Show Updates ticked at the top of the window. Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 4:02 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Nick Hodge wrote: A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Is the URL for this so I can escalate to IE8 team? Nick Hodge Hi Nick, I switched back to Classic View thinking to make the screenshots, but all the problems I saw before I switched to Vista View are gone. Not sure if it was some residues from IE7 I am absolute those problems are real, not my imaginations as I actually spent some 10 minutes trying to fix one page by adding a It IE8 Conditional comment, when it didn't work as it should as I know my CSS code, I started looking for other possible cause, however switching to Vista View was quite accidental because IE8 looks exactly like IE7 in the classic view and I couldn't find the Compatibility Mode on the toolbar. I would have uninstalled IE8 to run another test to see if I can see those problem again, but I can't find how to uninstall IE8. In the Control Panel Uninstall or Change Program, I can't see IE8. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode
You can have a look, it's www.studiojunkyard.com I would be more inclined to fix it, when have time hehe. Been building sites for a good time now, so it would be just a matter of taking the time and looking properly to solve it in a minimilist way. Tatham Oddie wrote: Would you mind sending me the link so I can take a look and diagnose why it is not rendering properly without compatibility view? Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Eyemax Studios Sent: Tuesday, 7 April 2009 3:37 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode Personally I think this is just another Microsoft attempt at trying to enforce what it believes the Standards should be. I too, spent several minutes trying to fix problems in ie8, when my wife noticed the main business's site not displaying properly, then she noticed the compatibility button next to the address bar in ie8 and it all worked fine. Tatham Oddie wrote: Tee, IE8 is shown as a Windows Update. If you're in Uninstall or Change Programs, make sure you have Show Updates ticked at the top of the window. Tatham Oddie http://tath.am -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Saturday, 28 March 2009 4:02 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Nick Hodge wrote: A heads up, I was using Classic View for my Vista, in IE8 with standard mode the sites all had a few paddings/margins issue in a number of pages where absolute position is declared, and on few areas where there is darken background color with lighter 1px horizontal line, the line turns to solid white. Soon as I switched to Vista View, all these problems disappeared. Is the URL for this so I can escalate to IE8 team? Nick Hodge Hi Nick, I switched back to Classic View thinking to make the screenshots, but all the problems I saw before I switched to Vista View are gone. Not sure if it was some residues from IE7 I am absolute those problems are real, not my imaginations as I actually spent some 10 minutes trying to fix one page by adding a It IE8 Conditional comment, when it didn't work as it should as I know my CSS code, I started looking for other possible cause, however switching to Vista View was quite accidental because IE8 looks exactly like IE7 in the classic view and I couldn't find the Compatibility Mode on the toolbar. I would have uninstalled IE8 to run another test to see if I can see those problem again, but I can't find how to uninstall IE8. In the Control Panel Uninstall or Change Program, I can't see IE8. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Failed A Job :(
Unfortunate, you as a developer, and the rest of world to have to view it, and for those original developers as they won't be able to learn from your wisdom. I've had similar cases myself, and refused to put my name to those projects for the same reasons. It's just the way things are unfortunately, but remember this same thing happens in all industry's, so don't go putting the blame on yourself, keep your head up and don't let it get you down. I've had potential client's come to me wanting me to do their site,, and after going through outlining why things are done the way they are, and a price is given them for what they want in their site, they end up going to the $100 guys, and end up coming back wanting me to help them. In every case I've told them, they only way to fix this problem and get your site working in a way they want is to scratch what they have unfortunately already paid for, and charge them the original price. In some cases I've repriced them more, for having to muck around with something someone else done. Keep plugging away at the industry, it's hard not to take on work at times, especially when rent needs paying, and food need to be in our belly's. Dennis, Eyemax Studios - Studo Junkyard James Jeffery wrote: Big company, worldwide infact. A great one for the resume but I failed it. I was brought in at the end of the project to fix some bugs. Let me just say that from viewing the source it was majorly flawed! I spent 6 hours on it before handing in the towel right near their deadline. The CSS was unstructured, way to much repetition which was the cause of some bugs and errors. The only way out of that was to rewrite the whole lot. I mean the guys who were on this project were creating empty spans with classes to push elements along a page (like spacers). They had an empty h1 with a span inside it for the logo they placed in using CSS ... that was only a part of the issue. I don't question my knowledge. It's up to par and I have completed a number of jobs, but on this occasion I sucked ... or they sucked ... or both. This website will be released to the world, and millions will use it, but its awfully constructed, not semantic at all and its another case of a poor website on the web. Ah well. Lesson learn't. Never jump into a project at the last minute to be relied upon for a couple of pennies. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia
THis is exactly my way of thinking, of what the firewall is really about. Getting down to it though, and probable slightly off topic, if you think about it, it's the church's and religious groups that really control us through using government positions to do so. In saying, for those of us that believe there is people that are tapped into their psychic abilities, it's been religious belief that has changed the general publics views on psychic's as being witchery and of satanic leaning. Andrew R wrote: And adding my 2 cents worth… This is part of the grand conspiracy. The panic about porn / bomb instructions on the web knee jerk is a smoke screen. What the government wants to do is control how it’s citizen access media and hence ideas. They love the traditional mass media because it’s easy to control and run by cooperation that have a vested interest keeping the old paradigms. They hate the web, email, etc because it’s hard to control and hence subvert how ideas spread. Goverements all over the place have been trying to do this for a long time. It’s stupid, won’t work and is going to cost us millions. What will happen is lots of folks will subscript to OS encrypted tunnelling services. The outcome will be lots of encrypted web traffic which will be a lot worse if you’re trying to track the activities of bomb makers and paedophiles. And it is going to chew up money that would be more productively spend improving the speed of the infrastructure (and not slowing it down). This is nearly a dumb that idea that Mr Keating had of sell exclusive rights to provide Australian net access to Microsoft! Andrew Win £1000 John Lewis shopping sprees with BigSnapSearch.com Search now http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/117442309/direct/01/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Internet Censorship - Senator Conroy's 'Clean Feed'
to quote Conroy from http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/31/2129471.htm: The internet hasn't ground to a halt in the UK, it hasn't ground to a halt in Scandinavian countries and it's not grinding the internet to a halt in Europe. He seems to forget, that Australia as a whole is being served some of the slowest broadband connections to citizens. These other countries, have much much faster internet home connections, than people in Australia. Damn it, I know people in Europe that have 100mbit connections to their homes. Conroy really needs to get his head out of his nether regions. Garner, Shannon wrote: And mine. (two cents that is..) The Web Industry Professionals Association (WIPA) website has a section on their website on this topic: http://wipa.org.au/story/24 and they will be conducting discussion sessions to formulate a response to the proposal by Senator Conroy. It's a ridiculous and absurd proposal that we don't want or need. Let's stop it by making our voices heard. ShannonG * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * From: Andrew R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:36:02 + Subject: Re: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia And adding my 2 cents worth... This is part of the grand conspiracy. The panic about porn / bomb instruct ions on the web knee jerk is a smoke screen. What the government wants to d o is control how it's citizen access media and hence ideas. They love the traditional mass media because it's easy to control and run by cooperati on that have a vested interest keeping the old paradigms. They hate the web , email, etc because it's hard to control and hence subvert how ideas spread. Goverements all over the place have been trying to do this for a l ong time. It's stupid, won't work and is going to cost us millions. What will h appen is lots of folks will subscript to OS encrypted tunnelling services. The outcome will be lots of encrypted web traffic which will be a lot worse if you're trying to track the activities of bomb makers and paedophiles. And it is going to chew up money that would be more productively spend imp roving the speed of the infrastructure (and not slowing it down). This is nearly a dumb that idea that Mr Keating had of sell exclusive righ ts to provide Australian net access to Microsoft!Andrew See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the person or organisation to whom it is addressed, and may contain secret, confidential or legally privileged information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are aware that you are not authorised to have it, you MUST NOT use or copy it, or disclose its contents to any person. If you do any of these things, you may be sued or prosecuted. If you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
