Re: [WSG] IE hiding text

[Gary Greer]

Ahh, if only I could! However, working in a very MS centric org, I would 
 have more luck persuading George Bush that Saddam Hussein really isn't 
that bad, than getting Firefox in.

I like the thought, however!
gg
Mordechai Peller wrote:
Gary Greer wrote:
I'm working on http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=456 - 
it's going to be our intranet.

Looking at it in Firefox, it looks fine, but in IE the menu on the 
left appears but is then overwritten by the background image on the 
container div.

Does any one have any suggestions? 

Sure, install Firefox. You did say it was for an intranet.
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Re: [WSG] IE hiding text

[Gary Greer]

accusation of plagiarism dealt with off list. Feel free to contact me if 
you want more details.

gg

Ben Webster wrote:
Hey there Gary,
 
there's just a small problem with the way your structring your 
background image for the left hand column. For help go here:

Faux columns - by Dan Cederhom
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fauxcolumns/
 
btw - your images and colours look very familiar. A lot like a site I 
posted to the group for feedback a while back:
 
http://www.conversantstudios.com.au/apa/index_01.html
 
If you're going to use the same guff - at least change the name of the 
images to protect the innocent:
 
http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/fileadmin/metTempl/foot_terms_of_use.gif
http://www.conversantstudios.com.au/apa/i/foot_terms_of_use.gif
 
Benvolio
 
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Conversant Studios
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
www.conversantstudios.com.au <http://www.conversantstudios.com.au>
 
- Original Message -
From: "Gary Greer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:43 PM
Subject: [WSG] IE hiding text

 > I'm working on http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=456 -
 > it's going to be our intranet.
 >
 > Looking at it in Firefox, it looks fine, but in IE the menu on the left
 > appears but is then overwritten by the background image on the container
 > div.
 >
 > Does any one have any suggestions?
 >
 > gary
 >


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Re: [WSG] IE hiding text

[Gary Greer]

That would probaby be because I've used a fixed height to get the blue 
box high enough. Is there a way to make it expand to the same height as 
the text?

gg
Rick Faaberg wrote:
On 5/19/04 7:43 PM "Gary Greer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out:

I'm working on http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=456 -
it's going to be our intranet.
Looking at it in Firefox, it looks fine, but in IE the menu on the left
appears but is then overwritten by the background image on the container
div.

No suggestion, but on Mac IE 5.2.x the bottom line of text in the wide blue
box is not displayed i.e. the blue box isn't long enough vertically to
display the text.
Rick
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[WSG] IE hiding text

[Gary Greer]

I'm working on http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=456 - 
it's going to be our intranet.

Looking at it in Firefox, it looks fine, but in IE the menu on the left 
appears but is then overwritten by the background image on the container 
div.

Does any one have any suggestions?
gary


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Re: [WSG] help with ie vs the rest

[Gary Greer]

okay -  it now validates - hurrah!
Just to complicate it, I've got a three column layout working on the 
page called "search", which goes quite strange in Firefox.

Call for help!
gg
Craig Stump wrote:
There seems to be a few problems with the markup - might want to validate it
first.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.p
hp?id=67 

I notice you've got "."'s in you class names in the HTML - AFAIK this is not
valid.
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Sent: Monday, 3 May 2004 5:04 PM
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Subject: [WSG] help with ie vs the rest
Hi All
First - sorry I can't make it to the Melbourne meeting - just too busy.
Second - can anyone help me with some weirdness I'm seeing?
http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=67 has a page. It has CSS at
http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/fileadmin/metTempl/new.css .
Looking at it through IE, I get wrapping in the content block, but the main
block isn't centered. Looking at it in Firefox, the main block is centered,
but the text doesn't wrap.
In a word - Aaaarghhh. Can anyone help? I've run out of beer and
inspiration.
gg
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Re: [WSG] help with ie vs the rest

[Gary Greer]

oops.
Thanks for the hint - I'll do that and get back to the list!
Craig Stump wrote:
There seems to be a few problems with the markup - might want to validate it
first.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.p
hp?id=67 

I notice you've got "."'s in you class names in the HTML - AFAIK this is not
valid.
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Sent: Monday, 3 May 2004 5:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] help with ie vs the rest
Hi All
First - sorry I can't make it to the Melbourne meeting - just too busy.
Second - can anyone help me with some weirdness I'm seeing?
http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=67 has a page. It has CSS at
http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/fileadmin/metTempl/new.css .
Looking at it through IE, I get wrapping in the content block, but the main
block isn't centered. Looking at it in Firefox, the main block is centered,
but the text doesn't wrap.
In a word - Aaaarghhh. Can anyone help? I've run out of beer and
inspiration.
gg
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[WSG] help with ie vs the rest

[Gary Greer]

Hi All
First - sorry I can't make it to the Melbourne meeting - just too busy.
Second - can anyone help me with some weirdness I'm seeing?
http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=67 has a page. It has 
CSS at http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/fileadmin/metTempl/new.css .

Looking at it through IE, I get wrapping in the content block, but the 
main block isn't centered. Looking at it in Firefox, the main block is 
centered, but the text doesn't wrap.

In a word - Aaaarghhh. Can anyone help? I've run out of beer and 
inspiration.

gg


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Re: [WSG] Some suggestions needed

[Gary Greer]

Hi Leo.

What was the URL for the tutorial?

gary

Leo J. O'Campo wrote:
So Gary...  What is complicating it?  Just remember to put a clear: 
both; in the footer rule

Just check out this excellent tutorial on how to create footer for a 2 
column layout.  It step by step by the numbers, easy.

Leo

On Monday, March 29, 2004, at 02:25  AM, Gary Greer wrote:

Looking at http://www.muprivate.edu.au/index_frameset.asp I'm fighting 
to replicate the same layout as was used with tables. All is going 
fine, until I got to the footer, when it's just too complex for me to 
figure out.

Could I ask if the group could look at the above URL and see what 
could be done with the footer? It's the bit that starts "University 
web search"

Thanks greatly!

Gary



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[WSG] Some suggestions needed

[Gary Greer]

Looking at http://www.muprivate.edu.au/index_frameset.asp I'm fighting 
to replicate the same layout as was used with tables. All is going fine, 
until I got to the footer, when it's just too complex for me to figure out.

Could I ask if the group could look at the above URL and see what could 
be done with the footer? It's the bit that starts "University web search"

Thanks greatly!

Gary


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Re: [WSG] New CMS / Framework

[Gary Greer]

Have you looked at typo3? I use it and find it very good. It's GPL, able 
to run under windows or *nix, extend able and well supported. The html 
isn't fully compliant yet, but it's being worked on - it's also not that 
hard to hack the code to do what you want.

www.typo3.com and www.typo3.org

Justin French wrote:

Hi all,

Inspired by the needs, comments and wishes of Dave Shae's "Wanted: CMS" 
post on Mezzoblue 
, I'm taking 
up the challenge, and building the CMS I've always wanted (which it 
looks like Dave and others wanted too).  Off the top of my head, with no 
warranty whatsoever, I'd like it to be distributed under a license 
similar to MT's multi-license for personal/commercial/pro use, or even GPL.

More (and less) than a CMS, what I'm aiming at is a framework which 
provides a simple CMS, but more importantly offers a killer API for 
plug-ins and extensions.  I'm 100% convinced that the perfect CMS 
doesn't exist, but I hope that I can build one that meets basic needs, 
with unlimited scope for extensions.

I'm NOT building another blog tool (although there will be a blog 
plug-in), and I'm not building a bloated portal system that can do 
everything and anything (although the plug-in API would allow for it 
all)... what I'm building is a system that answers *my* common 
requirements, and hopefully those of a large number of developers out 
there in the process.

My assumption (and my need) is a system where the developer (me for 
example) sets up the site, creates the content models and templates, 
creates the CSS, hooks in new plug-ins (or even builds a new one), then 
hands it over to content writers and editors to run on a day-by-day 
basis.  As such, my target market isn't really website owners, but 
website developers acting on behalf of website owners.

Naturally the content-adding back-end will need to be usable by regular 
office staff, but the areas that the developers deal with (creating new 
content models and templates) will be quite raw (no need to write a 
template engine when PHP already is one, etc).

It's quite possible I've got this all wrong, and this isn't what other 
people want at all, but that's OK, because I still want it for me and my 
clients.  Even so, I'm keen to get the ball rolling on a wish-list of 
features (keeping in mind that this is supposed to be lightweight, 
allowing as much freedom as possible to develop add-ons) from everyone 
out there.

To start the ball rolling, here are a *few* of mine:

- LAMP based (possibly with a DB abstraction layer)
- page (rather than post) oriented, with regular dir & file hierarchy, 
simple SE friendly URLs, etc
- extensibility through a simple but open plug-in API
- works on a basic install of PHP (no recompiles and external libs)
- different content models (a news post is different to a recipe, blog 
post, tech article, etc etc)

Feel free to keep emails private or public, and if you want to be 
involved in Beta testing etc (and get a freebie in the process), just 
let me know.

Thanks,
Justin French
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